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« Reply #275 on: June 20, 2014, 05:02:05 am »
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Watching England - Uruguay replay now.  I forgot just how likeable a team Uruguay was.  Heroic Suarez leading them.

England doesn't bother me as much as they used to for some reason.
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« Reply #276 on: June 20, 2014, 05:45:03 am »
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So who's definitely out for good?

Australia
Spain

Is that it?

Japan needs to beat Colombia by 2 and have Ivory Coast lose, correct?
England needs everything to happen...

That's it yes, although given how Cameroon is playing, I don't see them beating Brazil (even this Brazil) any time soon.

I also found myself in the very awkward position of rooting for England. Man, what an ugly group. Two teams I genuinely hate (Uruguay and Italy), a team I traditionally hate because, you know (England), and a team I know nothing about (Costa Rica).

England really doesn't need THAT much. They need three things :
1) Italy beating Costa Rica. Reasonable.
2) Italy beating Uruguay. They would already be qualifieid and certain of first place after a Costa Rica win, so that's  the hard part, a tie is likely here.
3) Beating Costa Rica, possibly with a 2 goals lead depending on the Italy/Costa Rica score.
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« Reply #277 on: June 20, 2014, 06:25:42 am »
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Even if they make it through, they won't be able to beat Colombia.

And Cameroon is definitely out, with 3 points they won't get ahead of either Mexico/Brazil who both have 4 points.
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« Reply #278 on: June 20, 2014, 06:26:23 am »
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suarez is so good. feel bad for stevie g though.

I don't, was pretty poor both games now.

Sturridge was also awful, why he wasn't replaced by lambert earlier I have no idea.
So e terrible positioning by Hart on the corners, and by the defence in general!

I thought welbeck and Johnson(second half) played well though.

And glad to see Rooney get his first goal
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« Reply #279 on: June 20, 2014, 06:27:35 am »
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So who's definitely out for good?

Australia
Spain

Is that it?

Japan needs to beat Colombia by 2 and have Ivory Coast lose, correct?
England needs everything to happen...

That's it yes, although given how Cameroon is playing, I don't see them beating Brazil (even this Brazil) any time soon.

I also found myself in the very awkward position of rooting for England. Man, what an ugly group. Two teams I genuinely hate (Uruguay and Italy), a team I traditionally hate because, you know (England), and a team I know nothing about (Costa Rica).

England really doesn't need THAT much. They need three things :
1) Italy beating Costa Rica. Reasonable.
2) Italy beating Uruguay. They would already be qualifieid and certain of first place after a Costa Rica win, so that's  the hard part, a tie is likely here.
3) Beating Costa Rica, possibly with a 2 goals lead depending on the Italy/Costa Rica score.

The third one is the most unlikely there.
Italy will want to too the group hopefully to avoid Colombia as they are the only dangerous team there.
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« Reply #280 on: June 20, 2014, 06:31:47 am »
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Why does England always play so poorly?

From the time I've been following the world and euro cups ('94), England has only made it to the semis in their own country ('96) and no further than the quarter-finals in any other cup.

Because were just rubbish, too much one dimensional thinking at the lower levels means English players can't adapt or do anything except what they are taught
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« Reply #281 on: June 20, 2014, 06:43:48 am »
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The third one is the most unlikely there.
Italy will want to too the group hopefully to avoid Colombia as they are the only dangerous team there.

Sure, but a tie is enough for them to secure first place, assuming they beat Costa Rica.
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« Reply #282 on: June 20, 2014, 08:49:45 am »
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Why does England always play so poorly?

From the time I've been following the world and euro cups ('94), England has only made it to the semis in their own country ('96) and no further than the quarter-finals in any other cup.

Because were just rubbish, too much one dimensional thinking at the lower levels means English players can't adapt or do anything except what they are taught
Maybe too few English youth players are coming through because the clubs are owned by rich playboys who just buy any (non-English) player they want.

Man Utd has 12 out of 31 English players.
Liverpool has quite a few with 17 out of 41.
Chelsea has 3 out of 20!
Manchester City has 6 out of 26!
And Arsenal has 5 out of 30!

I think English football is slowly being choked to death.

The Dutch competition isn't anything hot, but at least a lot of Dutch players get a chance to play in it.
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« Reply #283 on: June 20, 2014, 10:29:07 am »
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Why does England always play so poorly?

From the time I've been following the world and euro cups ('94), England has only made it to the semis in their own country ('96) and no further than the quarter-finals in any other cup.

Because were just rubbish, too much one dimensional thinking at the lower levels means English players can't adapt or do anything except what they are taught
Maybe too few English youth players are coming through because the clubs are owned by rich playboys who just buy any (non-English) player they want.



England is overrated in this World Cup as always. If i see that people rated them before WC on one level with teams like Italy and over teams like Colombia or the Netherlands, I just can laugh about that. That youth players dont get enough games in premier league is a point but not the mainpoint imho.

I think the big problem in English football is the youth player education. Almost all English youth player academies promote the same type of players. The attention in education leans towards speed and strength. These two abilities are essential in football, but thats not enough anymore in modern football. It was often good enough until the 1990's, but today you need to be able to be very good in tactics and especially technics to compete with World Class. Somehow its part of the mentality in sports (and maybe even the societies of that countries tends to that) of the most of english speaking countries to tend to speed and strength. If you see teams like England, Australia and USA, they have good players, but their game is too uninspired, too predictable and in some way too straight forward to compete with the best.

As said, the main reason for the failure of England in the past is in my eyes, that the english youth player education missed the progress in modern football and that for the last 25 years. The focus is still on the essential skills that you need in football, but too less on the skills you need to be Tier I. Germany had exactely the same problem in late 90's and early 00's, but there the old men in decision functions were able to change their thinking and built up a first class education system on national level and on club level as well. So, its doable, for such a great country with that passion for football like England is, anyway. But it has to be done.
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« Reply #284 on: June 20, 2014, 12:40:52 pm »
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I don't think there's a big mystery about England. They're a side who could have qualified for the last 16 if they had been give a different group (proper seeding) but would probably never have made the quarter finals. A bit of luck and they could still be in the competition. English players can be tactically inept but there's nothing wrong with strength and speed. Ask the Spanish about Robben and Van Persie.
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« Reply #285 on: June 20, 2014, 02:23:50 pm »
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Not anymore. Shitty game football, when does Wimbledon start!
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« Reply #286 on: June 20, 2014, 02:53:54 pm »
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Eastbourne final is tomorrow. The English girl lost today in the tennis as well :).
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« Reply #287 on: June 20, 2014, 04:02:20 pm »
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Costa Rica lol. I was doubtful about this being the "group of death" because it had one very weak team in it... I guess I was wrong !

Also, this France-Switzerland game is going MUCH better than I expected, this is pretty awesome. There's something about this stadium I guess (13 goals in 3 matches so far).
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« Reply #288 on: June 20, 2014, 09:54:34 pm »
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Watching England - Uruguay replay now.  I forgot just how likeable a team Uruguay was.  Heroic Suarez leading them.

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I hope they crash and burn against Italy.
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« Reply #289 on: June 20, 2014, 11:02:02 pm »
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Watching England - Uruguay replay now.  I forgot just how likeable a team Uruguay was.  Heroic Suarez leading them.

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I hope they crash and burn against Italy.

aww i hope not. i think we both know that suarez is going to go ahead and score a wonderful goal and have something controversial happen. him and balotelli on the pitch at the same time is basically a journalist's dreams come true.
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« Reply #290 on: June 20, 2014, 11:04:17 pm »
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Watching England - Uruguay replay now.  I forgot just how likeable a team Uruguay was.  Heroic Suarez leading them.

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I hope they crash and burn against Italy.

aww i hope not. i think we both know that suarez is going to go ahead and score a wonderful goal and have something controversial happen. him and balotelli on the pitch at the same time is basically a journalist's dreams come true.

head butt each other and both get ejected out of the game?

That would be cool...
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« Reply #291 on: June 21, 2014, 05:44:31 am »
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No one talking about that awesome France-Switzerland game ? It was so great ! We're apparently incapable of defending without Sakho, but man was that entertaining to watch. Too bad about Benzema's last goal, it was so beautiful.
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« Reply #292 on: June 21, 2014, 07:38:11 pm »
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Germany vs Ghana was a great second half. Also, Bosnia game was quite interesting too, Dzeko had goal wrongly disallowed.
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« Reply #293 on: June 22, 2014, 02:54:03 pm »
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I dislike a competition where undefeated teams get eliminated.
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« Reply #294 on: June 22, 2014, 04:15:57 pm »
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I dislike a competition where undefeated teams get eliminated.

While it is possible, it isn't exactly likely, and given the low amount of ties in this World Cup, it's very unlikely that this will happen.
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« Reply #295 on: June 22, 2014, 04:58:49 pm »
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The problem with previous world cups were the teams who preferred no defeats to scoring goals.
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« Reply #296 on: June 22, 2014, 07:14:31 pm »
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And Bradley doing his best job finding the one human-shaped wall in the wide-open goal to ensure he doesn't score...
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« Reply #297 on: June 22, 2014, 07:16:40 pm »
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And Bradley doing his best job finding the one human-shaped wall in the wide-open goal to ensure he doesn't score...

This loss means we MUST beat Germany to advance.  That's rough.
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« Reply #298 on: June 22, 2014, 07:22:16 pm »
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« Reply #299 on: June 22, 2014, 07:41:13 pm »
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