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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: November 14, 2013, 04:08:53 pm »

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.
Robz888, Galzria, yuma
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (sign-ups open)
« Reply #326 on: November 14, 2013, 04:09:17 pm »

Ok.  So we know that roles were given out randomly.  Well, nothing is truly random.  So lets take the list of players in order, mark every third and fourth player as a possible target, then target the person they meet at.  AND Look.  Walrus.  my suspicions are confirmed.

11) Metas, alignments, and roles will all be rolled and assigned at random, except for the ones that aren't
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: November 14, 2013, 04:10:13 pm »

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.
Robz888, Galzria, yuma

Those aren't alphabetical!  /out!
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: November 14, 2013, 04:11:13 pm »

So I guess there is no sparky meta in the game. That's too bad.

I think scum would want to lurk, it would be so hard for them to post as someone else, especially not their own alignment. I want to vote for e but I don't know his meta.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: November 14, 2013, 04:11:47 pm »

Oh yeah? Well something feels irrational about e!
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: November 14, 2013, 04:12:32 pm »

Oh yeah? Well something feels irrational about e!

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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: November 14, 2013, 04:13:27 pm »

(/in, btw).  Sorry about that.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: November 14, 2013, 04:14:13 pm »

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.
vote: voltaire

scum would definitely want to do this in a setup like this (for easy town cred), it looks very pre-planned. just about the only way to get towncred for theory talk, i'm pretty sure about this guys.

I agree. Whose meta is Voltaire, you think?

Vote: Ashersky
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: November 14, 2013, 04:18:13 pm »

oh right, forgot about the voting mechanism.. hmmh. unvote wouldnt want to punish the wrong guy!
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: November 14, 2013, 04:23:38 pm »

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: November 14, 2013, 04:29:31 pm »

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: November 14, 2013, 04:33:26 pm »

All right, lets get down to business for real.

18 players.  If we include only those 18 players and assume that everyone gets a meta from another person in the game, there are 17*17! different ways to assign metas.  However, the chances that Walrus has Chairs meta (for example) is 1/17 (0.05882352941).  so we have a 1/(17*17!) (0%) shot of getting everyone's meta right, but an amazingly awesome 5.88% chance to get just one person's meta correct.  So we should focus in on one person and examine them for a meta and figure out who it is.  There is really no other option.  I suggest we start with Walrus, since he was my first scum read.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: November 14, 2013, 04:37:11 pm »

some metas are just so so much easier, though.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: November 14, 2013, 04:38:39 pm »

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.
Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

I am 100% sure that my idea is pro-town, knowing only what I know about me.

I am not sure I agree, but I anyways, I want to thank you for answering the question. Thanks goes to chairs as well.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: November 14, 2013, 04:39:01 pm »

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: November 14, 2013, 04:41:14 pm »

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

That'd be really stretching the bounds of "pretty clear" but I suppose you could be right.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: November 14, 2013, 04:47:01 pm »

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky
I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: November 14, 2013, 04:51:47 pm »

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky
I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

K so

Ashersky is the mod.

Bastard mod.

Whatever he's doing, I really really doubt he's actually playing the game or tipping the scales for one side or the other.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: November 14, 2013, 04:54:04 pm »

I'm almost feeling trolled but I'm not sure if that's any specific person's meta.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: November 14, 2013, 05:03:18 pm »

Ozle?
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: November 14, 2013, 05:04:12 pm »

I'm almost feeling trolled but I'm not sure if that's any specific person's meta.

That's definitely ashersky's meta.

vote: ashersky
vote: yuma

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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: November 14, 2013, 05:15:54 pm »

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

That'd be really stretching the bounds of "pretty clear" but I suppose you could be right.

No, I mean his meta forces him to make that accusation, not that the accusation is true.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: November 14, 2013, 05:21:16 pm »

Vote Count 1.6:

ashersky (6): Dsell2, sudgy2, liopoil2, TA1, xeiron1, chairs1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim1
shraeye (1): EFHW1
Morgrim7 (1): Morgrim2
sparky5856 (8): xeiron1, faust1, mail-mi1, sudgy1, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2, walrus2
yuma (2): faust2, chairs2
Robz888 (3): liopoil1, mail-mi2, mcmc2
Walrus (2): walrus1, 2.72
chairs (1): 2.71
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
mcmc (1): mcmc1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: November 14, 2013, 05:24:57 pm »

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky
I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

This is a terribad idea!  We guess wrong and the meta turns out to be in the game and bam! that person is lynched.
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Re: BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia! (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: November 14, 2013, 05:26:40 pm »

Either we recognize someone's meta or we don't.  Knowing that they aren't someone who is unlikely to be in the game is not helpful information. 
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