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[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14: f.ds Meta Mafia!

Mods: ashersky, Archetype

This game is for 13+ players, and can be expanded if there is additional interest.  This game will not start until BM12 ends, or is in its final death throes.

Players:
1.  Dsell
2.  sudgy - Eevee, the Serial Killer-aligned Scattershot Poison Doctor - Poisoned on Night 3
3.  Voltaire - Archetype
4.  Voltgloss
5.  mail-mi - raerae, the Werewolves' Beloved Princess - Lynched Day 4
6.  Eevee
7.  Jimmmmm
8.  xeiron - Voltgloss, the Mafia Janitor - Destroyed by magic on Night 1
9.  2.7.... - liopoil
10.  Chairs - Morgrim7, the Mafia Suicidal Goon - Lynched Day 1
11.  EFHW - yuma, the Mafia Vampire - Lynched Day 5, but resurrected!  Then lynched Day 6.
12.  WalrusMcFishSr - Voltaire, the Werewolf Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber - Self-detonated Day 2
13.  Robz888 - shraeye, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber - Self-detonated Day 2
14.  Twistedarcher - Galzria, the Vanilla Townie - Bombed by WalrusMcFishSr D2
15.  liopoil - Twistedarcher, the Suicidal Werewolf Goon - Suicided D2
16.  Morgrim7 - mail-mi, the Werewolf Vampire - Bombed by Robz888 D2, but resurrected!  Then lynched D3.
17.  mcmcsalot
18.  faust - Jimmmmm, the Jester - Lynched D2 and Wins!
19.  [yuma] - Dsell, the Town Deprogrammer - Poisoned N2

Spectators Tagged:  Galzria, shraeye

Day starts/ends:


ashersky's Mafia Ruleset

The Golden Rule:

Please remember that this is a game and your main objective should be to have fun!  Be considerate of each other, don’t ever get personal, and enjoy the game.

Please read The Civility Pledge before signing up for this game.  If you have not /pledged there, you cannot play here.

Excessive personal attacks or uncivil behavior may be dealt with by any means deemed appropriate by the mods.

General Gameplay and Etiquette:

1. Direct or verbatim quoting of information provided by the mod in PMs or QTs is strictly forbidden.  Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
2. Personal communication outside of the forum postings is NOT ALLOWED unless your Role PM specifically allows it.
3. If you have a role with a Night action, your choices are due to all mods by the posted "Night Action Submission Deadline" (generally 24 hours from day's end; later Nights may have shorter deadlines).  If your action is not received by the posted deadline, you will forfeit your action(s).  In the case of multiple submissions, the most recently received valid command before the deadline will be used.  Generally, one team member may submit the Night Actions for all team members.
4. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage), unless your Role PM specifically allows it.
5. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mods know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase, unless your Action is compulsory.
6. As a general rule you should aim for one post every 24 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.

Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:

1. A simple majority (rounded up) of all living members must agree on one person for a lynch to occur prior to deadline.
2. Once you have reached a simple majority no further unvoting will change someone’s fate.  Further votes will also be ignored.
3. Once a player is lynched, the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players including the one who was lynched may continue to post during twilight.
4. Please submit votes as: Vote: PlayerName.  Votes will NOT be counted if they are not bolded or do not follow this syntax!  Obvious abbreviations or nicknames will be counted so long as they are unambiguous.
5. Please submit vote revocations as either Unvote: PlayerName or Unvote. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
6. You may Vote: No Lynch - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a lynch.
7. Once you are killed (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post in the game or in Quicktopics, except for twilight.  This means that you do not even get a “Bah” post.  The dead in this game are silent, but will be invited to the Spectator Quicktopic.
8. Do not edit or delete posts.  We don't want some players having more information than others.  If you want to clarify posts, feel free to double post.
9. This game will have simple, variable deadlines.  All days will last one week, but will never start or end on a Friday or Saturday.

Miscellaneous/Mechanics:

1. Bold, maroon (or blue) text is reserved for the Mod.  No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.
2. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM the Mods privately.  Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
3. The Mods may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently.  Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed.  These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
4. Please bold all requests to the Mods so that they don’t get missed.
5. Prods of missing players will be issued automatically after 48 hours of no activity or upon request after 24 hours of no activity.  A prodded player has 48 hours to respond or risks replacement.  A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to replacement without further notice.
6. Rule violations will be dealt with according to their severity, as determined by the mods.
7. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread.  Treat this game as a commitment.  Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.

Helpful Links:

--Main Wiki Page

--Newbie Guide

--Frequently Asked Questions

--Commonly Used Abbreviations

--Mafia Theory

TO CLARIFY, I AM NOT A MODERATOR OF F.DS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.  IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS GAME, I AM MODERATING THAT THE RULES ARE FOLLOWED AND HIDDEN ACTIONS ARE COMPLETED PROPERLY.

GAME SET-UP, ROLES, AND NEWBIE SPECIFIC INFORMATION LISTED IN NEXT POST



Game Setup information:

You'll just have to wait and find out in Post 2!

[ashersky]

Game-specific information:

This is a bastard game; make no mistake or assumption otherwise.  That means that no balance is promised, nor was it particularly strived for.  What follows is a list of bastard elements that you should expect in this game.

1) As mentioned, no promise of balance.
2) Any and all roles and role modifiers listed on mafiascum.net, and variations thereof, are fair game. This includes, but is not limited to, "false" roles, "alignment-changing" roles, and "third party" roles.
3) There will be individual posting restrictions that are not announced to the town.

Other than those three things, no other event, post, mechanic, role, or rule will be bastard.  Outside of those three issues, you may treat this game as a Role Madness setup.

Setup Elements:

1) There will be no mod lying whatsoever*. (See #2 role on role inclusion.)
2) Anything written by a mod in mod color and format is absolutely true.
3) All players have two active votes. They may not be on the same player.
4) All players will be assigned an f.ds meta. As an example, Archetype may be assigned the meta of EFHW. If the town wants to lynch Archetype during the day, votes must be for "EFHW" and not "Archetype." If scum wants to kill Archetype at night, the target given to the mods in the kill order must be "EFHW" and not "Archetype."
5) For any and all other "targeting," actual player names should be used.
6) Players may not claim their meta. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
7) Players may not claim their role. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
8) Players may not quote, paraphrase, or mention anything from any PM received from the mods at any time during the game, including in QTs. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
9) The only exception to #8 is alignment. Players may claim their alignment at any time.
10) Each day, the town may collectively decide to inspect the corpse of a dead player. The player being inspected must have been dead for at least "24 hours," which means 2 game phases, including the phase in which it died (day/night). This inspection will reveal the alignment of the corpse.

11) Metas, alignments, and roles will all be rolled and assigned at random, except for the ones that aren't.


Sample PM:

Welcome to BM14, Archetype.  Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.

You are EFHW.  Definitely not a newbie, you are moving up in the ranks of f.ds mafia players.  Your meta is starting to develop, but isn't quite solidified in the pantheon of the immediately recognizable.  You've had some amazing roles, including the very overpowered Permission-Requiring Serial Killer, and handled it with class.  Your meta comes with a posting restriction.  When anyone refers to you with a masculine pronoun, you must correct them.  You must also feign ire with anyone who assumes you like Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

You are a Ninja Mafia Goon.  If you perform the factional kill, no one can see you do it.  This is a bastard role because there are no Trackers in the game, and you know how people feel about that.

A note on voting and vote counts:

Each player in this game has two active votes at all times.  These votes are cast in chronological order, and new votes replace the oldest current vote.  To illustrate:

vote: archetype
vote: Galzria
vote: yuma
vote: shraeye

My two votes are currently cast on yuma and shraeye, and the archetype and Galzria votes are gone.  This happens whether the votes are in separate posts or in the same post.

Unvote as a command works slightly differently.  If a player types unvote with no target, both votes are erased.  If an unvote is targeted, only that vote is removed.

Vote Counts, when posted, are final.  All vote counts will be prepared with the intent of recording all votes correctly, but mods make mistakes.  With two votes per person to count and unvote, more mistakes could happen.  So, once a Vote Count has been published, the number of voters listed after a player's name is the official, irrevocable number of votes for that player.  If there are extra votes counted, they count until the next vote count removes them or an unvote occurs.  If the number in the parentheses is wrong, it should be disregarded.  Here is an example:

Vote Count 0.0:

archetype (6): Eevee, Robz888, Voltgloss, mail-mi, chairs, Twistedarcher, Galzria
Galzria (3): Robz888, Voltaire, sudgy
mail-mi (5):Eevee, Dsell, Archetype, Eevee, EFHW

Not Voting (15): Eevee, Robz888, Voltgloss, mail-mi, chairs, Twistedarcher, Galzria, Voltaire, sudgy, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, ahoppy, Archetype, Dsell, Jorbles

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

In the above vote count, there are 7 votes on archetype, even though it says (6).  Seven is the official count.
Eevee has three votes active, including two on mail-mi.  All three votes are official.  The mods may correct this in the next vote count, at which point only what is counted in the next vote count is official.  Alternatively, Eevee may unvote.

As mentioned, care will be taken to be accurate.  Mistakes in a vote count are not meant to be part of the game, even as a BM feature.  They may happen, though, and I wanted to address it before the game started.

[Dsell]

Bam. In.

[sudgy]

/in

[Voltaire]

/in

[Voltgloss]

/in

[Jimmmmm]

/tag

[mail-mi]

Been look/ing forward to this.

[Archetype]

You guys are going to looooove this!

[Eevee]

hey-o!

[ashersky]

#11 added to Post 2.

[ashersky]

I even included a Sample PM, for openness's sake.

yuma could almost count this game in his stats.

[Voltgloss]

I even included a Sample PM, for openness's sake.

yuma could almost count this game in his stats.

That sample PM gets my <i>utmost</i> approval.

[Dsell]

oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy

Also, vote: EFHW

[Archetype]

Ew misleading ninjas.

What's next? Strongman with no Doctor?

[Galzria]

I would like to point out, for those who have not read closely, that it does NOT state that all meta's will be self inclusive. That is, there may be meta's in the game that belong to players who are not.

[mail-mi]

I even included a Sample PM, for openness's sake.

yuma could almost count this game in his stats.

That sample PM gets my <i>utmost</i> approval.

Lol if Voltgloss meta is to post a lot and only use the QT tags.

Question: Can you get your own meta?

[Jimmmmm]

I even included a Sample PM, for openness's sake.

yuma could almost count this game in his stats.

And, having read that, /in. With my usual requirement that it start on or after November 8.

[ashersky]

Question: Can you get your own meta?

Question: Would I really answer that?

[ashersky]

FYI for all, if you post in the thread without clearly in-ing, you will be added to the tag list.

[Galzria]

FYI for all, if you post in the thread without clearly in-ing, you will be added to the tag list.

You can de-tag me. I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

[Dsell]

FYI for all, if you post in the thread without clearly in-ing, you will be added to the tag list.

You can de-tag me. I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

Omg galz why would you not /in this game

[Voltgloss]

You can de-tag me. I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

time to follow games I'm not in.

in

[Dsell]

You can de-tag me. I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

time to follow games I'm not in.

in

Modifying quotes? I see you rolled Galzria's meta.

/lowblow

[Voltgloss]

[Galzria]

You can de-tag me. I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

I don't really have time to follow games I'm not in.

time to follow games I'm not in.

not in

[xeiron]

/in

[2.71828.....]

I am interested in this, but my only reservation is that I haven't played a game before and I am signed up for Toy Story Mafia that starts Monday.  I have been following GoT mafia, and I think that I would be able to handle two games at once right now (relatively light schedule at least through December) but as a newbie I do not think that I am the best judge of the commitment it takes to be in one game, let alone two.

So with that in mind, I am /in unless the mods think it may be too much for a new player (although by the time it starts I will be a veteran  ). 
Otherwise /tag

[mail-mi]

Btw this is the best game to do near Halloween.

[shraeye]

/tag

[chairs]

/in

[EFHW]

/in

[EFHW]

This will be very interesting!  Will there be metas assigned from people not in the game?

[EFHW]

This will be very interesting!  Will there be metas assigned from people not in the game?

I see that has been answered.  vote: Buffy, I mean Dsell. 

[WalrusMcFishSr]

/in

Joining was expected of me, apparently!

Nah just kidding looks like a hoot. I *am* pretty good at being a bastard!

[ashersky]

No Robz or Yuma yet...

[Robz888]

/in

[Archetype]

/in

YES

[Archetype]

/in

YES

That's puts us at 11 people?

Don't let that 13 player ending number scare you - we can easily bump this up to more people.

[ashersky]

So Dueling Towns ended much faster than expected.  I think this will start in a week or so?  Toy Story and Grimm may start soon, and I need to finish PMs.

The game will be considered full at 13+ players, so I am still accepting sign ups.

[Archetype]

Oh, nevermind. That's 13! Yay!

[chairs]

I'll be phone posting, but since this is Bastard and therefore not serious I'll stay in.

[yuma]

I guess I had better /tag and say I can sub in if needed... somebody had better get my meta though!

[EFHW]

It seems like the plan is for ashersky to define the metas in our pm's?  Are those suggestions or serious role expectations?

[EFHW]

what I mean is, we get assigned a person and their meta.  Does ashersky determine what that meta is, or do we?

[ashersky]

The players are assigned metas and roles pre-game.  Players are expected to follow the instructions of their PM.

[EFHW]

Exclusively, or can we add aspects of our assigned players meta that you don't mention?  What if we don't use your instructions?  I'm not planning to be rebellious, I just want to know the lay of the land.

[ashersky]

Exclusively, or can we add aspects of our assigned players meta that you don't mention?  What if we don't use your instructions?  I'm not planning to be rebellious, I just want to know the lay of the land.

The restrictions included in the PM are required.  Any embellishments or flourishes provided by the players are welcomed and highly encouraged.  I want the game to be hilarious and memorable.

Failure to abide by the posting restrictions included in the PM result in a modkill.

[yuma]

Exclusively, or can we add aspects of our assigned players meta that you don't mention?  What if we don't use your instructions?  I'm not planning to be rebellious, I just want to know the lay of the land.

The restrictions included in the PM are required.  Any embellishments or flourishes provided by the players are welcomed and highly encouraged.  I want the game to be hilarious and memorable.

Failure to abide by the posting restrictions included in the PM result in a modkill.

I would hope that there would be some sort of a warning system setup if such posting restrictions require players to pay very close attention to the thread.

For example if someone has a meta of Robz and has to vote anytime anyone uses a:  it would be a shame if that person was modkilled because they missed one post that had a smiley face at the bottom that they completely glossed over.

[Archetype]

/in and find out

[ashersky]

Exclusively, or can we add aspects of our assigned players meta that you don't mention?  What if we don't use your instructions?  I'm not planning to be rebellious, I just want to know the lay of the land.

The restrictions included in the PM are required.  Any embellishments or flourishes provided by the players are welcomed and highly encouraged.  I want the game to be hilarious and memorable.

Failure to abide by the posting restrictions included in the PM result in a modkill.

I would hope that there would be some sort of a warning system setup if such posting restrictions require players to pay very close attention to the thread.

For example if someone has a meta of Robz and has to vote anytime anyone uses a:  it would be a shame if that person was modkilled because they missed one post that had a smiley face at the bottom that they completely glossed over.

You'd hope, but then you'd remember that this is BM.

Also, rules are flexible.  I won't modkill willy-nilly.

[ashersky]

PMs are done...ish.  When should this start?  I'm thinking Thursday or Sunday evening.

[Twistedarcher]

in

[liopoil]

/in if I don't need to play any more seriously than I did in the dueling towns one.

[ashersky]

/in if I don't need to play any more seriously than I did in the dueling towns one.

It's BM.  Take it as seriously or not as you want.  The only thing I ask everyone is to follow the game rules, since that'll make the game more fun for everyone.

[Voltaire]

Later is better for me, so Sunday.

[Voltgloss]

Later is better for me, so Sunday.

Same here.

[Dsell]

Earlieeeeer

[mail-mi]

Earlieeeeer

[Eevee]

later is better for me as well. awful busy lately and more games are popping up left and right.

[chairs]

As you might expect, the longer this is delayed the better for me.

[ashersky]

I've seen enough "later please" posts to decide.

The sign-up phase will conclude on Tuesday, November 12th, some time in the evening.  PMs will go out at that time.  We will then enter a confirmation stage, which will last up to 24 hours.  Following the conclusion of the confirmation stage, we will enter Night 0, which will last 24 hours.  Day One will begin no later than the evening of Thursday, November 14th.

I will continue to accept sign ups until Tuesday evening.

[Dsell]

Tuuuuuuesday??? That's even laaaaater than Sunday!!

[mail-mi]

I've seen enough "later please" posts to decide.

The sign-up phase will conclude on Tuesday, November 12th, some time in the evening.  PMs will go out at that time.  We will then enter a confirmation stage, which will last up to 24 hours.  Following the conclusion of the confirmation stage, we will enter Night 0, which will last 24 hours.  Day One will begin no later than the evening of Thursday, November 14th.

I will continue to accept sign ups until Tuesday evening.

No that's too late!

[Voltaire]

That's fine!

[sudgy]

That's fine!

That's fine!

[Voltgloss]

That's fine!

That's fine!

That's fine!

[mail-mi]

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine! Start earlier!

[chairs]

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine! Start earlier!

No, later!

[WalrusMcFishSr]

[sudgy]

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine! Start earlier!

That's not fine!  Start later!

+1

[2.71828.....]

That's fine!

That's fine!

That's fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine!

That's not fine! Start earlier!

[ashersky]

Please note additions to Post 2 regarding voting and vote counts.

[sudgy]

Could it be mentioned in a vote count which vote is the more recent one?

[Voltgloss]

Regarding setup element #8:  Does this mean scumplayers can't tell each other their roles in their QT?

[ashersky]

Could it be mentioned in a vote count which vote is the more recent one?

Yes.  We'll probably use sudgy1 and sudgy2 to differentiate.  We'll figure it out.

Regarding setup element #8:  Does this mean scumplayers can't tell each other their roles in their QT?

If there is scum, and there are QTs, then yes, Rule #8 would apply to that which you describe.

[Voltgloss]

What happens if someone votes a meta that wasn't assigned to anyone in the game?

[ashersky]

What happens if someone votes a meta that wasn't assigned to anyone in the game?

All votes will be counted in Vote Counts.  If the meta is lynchable, votes stop counting at L.

[Jimmmmm]

/in!

[chairs]

[EFHW]

Could it be mentioned in a vote count which vote is the more recent one?

Yes.  We'll probably use sudgy1 and sudgy2 to differentiate.  We'll figure it out.

Regarding setup element #8:  Does this mean scumplayers can't tell each other their roles in their QT?

If there is scum, and there are QTs, then yes, Rule #8 would apply to that which you describe.

!!

If we find a mistake in a vote count, will a new vote count be made?

[Dsell]

Wowe

So plus

[Jimmmmm]

Could it be mentioned in a vote count which vote is the more recent one?

Yes.  We'll probably use sudgy1 and sudgy2 to differentiate.  We'll figure it out.

Regarding setup element #8:  Does this mean scumplayers can't tell each other their roles in their QT?

If there is scum, and there are QTs, then yes, Rule #8 would apply to that which you describe.

!!

If we find a mistake in a vote count, will a new vote count be made?

If there's a mistake in a vote count, and I'm scum, I'm quitting.

[Voltgloss]

If there's a mistake in a vote count, and I'm scum, I'm quitting.

+750

[ashersky]

Could it be mentioned in a vote count which vote is the more recent one?

Yes.  We'll probably use sudgy1 and sudgy2 to differentiate.  We'll figure it out.

Regarding setup element #8:  Does this mean scumplayers can't tell each other their roles in their QT?

If there is scum, and there are QTs, then yes, Rule #8 would apply to that which you describe.

!!

If we find a mistake in a vote count, will a new vote count be made?

I recommend revoting to fix it.

[Archetype]

Wowe

So plus

Many doge

[Morgrim7]

/in

[mcmcsalot]

/in?!?

[sudgy]

/in

YYYYEEEESSSS

[mcmcsalot]

/in

YYYYEEEESSSS

Fine! Don't be excited about me, I don't love you anyway sudgy, I dint watch your music video thingy!

[sudgy]

/in

YYYYEEEESSSS

Fine! Don't be excited about me, I don't love you anyway sudgy, I dint watch your music video thingy!

Morgrim has a more well known meta than you, so that's why.  Although I have been able to read you based off of your meta better than Morgrim...

/in?!?

YYYYYEEEEESSSSS!!!!!

You happy now?  I even added an extra letter to each one and added exclamation points as well.

[Jimmmmm]

Whoever has mcmc's meta: guaranteed scum.

[ashersky]

I'm super-pumped, if that helps.

[Voltgloss]

Whoever has mcmc'sshraeye's meta: guaranteed scum.

FTFY

[mail-mi]

Whoever has mcmc'sshraeye's mail-mi's meta: guaranteed scum.

FTFY

FIFY again.

[Dsell]

Are PMs for this fiiiiiinally going out today?

[mail-mi]

Are PMs for this fiiiiiinally going out today?

Please say yes please say yes...

[liopoil]

yes

[Eevee]

I would like to see my pm as well!

[Archetype]

We're still tweaking a few things with the influx of people, but PMs should (hopefully) be going out soon.

[liopoil]

send PMs THEN tweak things!

[Archetype]

send PMs THEN tweak things!

But that'd be...*gasp* bastard!

[ashersky]

Still looking at Tuesday evening for PMs.

[mail-mi]

Still looking at Tuesday Sunday evening for PMs.

FIFY

[faust]

/in (if I still can)

[ashersky]

/in (if I still can)

Okay.  Need to come up with another role.

Any community suggestions?

[Voltgloss]

Dawn breaks. 

Groobzle lay buried under a flood of Pepto-Bismol(tm).

His role was WEAK BULLETPROOF MILLER SUICIDAL JESTER WITH ODD-DAY NIGHTKILL AND TWO-SHOT BUS DRIVING.  WAIT, SORRY, THAT WAS O.

[ashersky]

Sign ups close in less than 12 hours.  PMs to follow shortly thereafter.

[mail-mi]

Iiiiiiiiiiittttttttttt'ssssssss TUESDAY!

[Jimmmmm]

Iiiiiiiiiiittttttttttt'ssssssss TUESDAY!

It's actually 2 hours into Wednesday where ash and I are.

[ashersky]

Sign ups are now closed.

[Voltaire]

PMs to follow shortly thereafter.

[ashersky]

Okay, PMs incoming.  This thread is locked to signed-up players.

[Archetype]

But not me!

[ashersky]

Game-specific information:


6) Players may not claim their meta. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
7) Players may not claim their role. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
8) Players may not quote, paraphrase, or mention anything from any PM received from the mods at any time during the game, including in QTs. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
9) The only exception to #8 is alignment. Players may claim their alignment at any time.

So, I've received a lot of questions about this.  Here's how it works.

Don't claim or admit your meta.  Ever.  Don't claim or admit your role.  Ever.  What about fake claims?  What about lies?  Just don't do it.  For example:

"Hey guys, I'm the Cop."  This statement, by the Cop or by a player that isn't a Cop, is not okay.  An actual Cop broke the rules above, clearly.  A non-cop lied, so they didn't break any rules, but it goes against the game.  This is a "spirit of the rules" thing more than an actual rules thing, I guess, but the point to the restrictions to keep the game focused on scum hunting and hilarious impressions of other metas, and the guessing that goes along with it.

Basically, if things head that direction, I'll just let whichever side is disadvantaged to lie or break the rules above as needed to maintain the status quo.  So PM-based traps will fail.

The game isn't super serious, but it is a real game.  Anyone can win, it's winnable, it's playable.  Just don't talk about PMs, or what's in your PM, or whatever.  Any questions or ideas, just ask me first.  Make sense?

[ashersky]

Any posting restrictions imposed upon you are only required in the game thread.  They are not expected in QTs.

[ashersky]

Please note, no one should take offense at anything included or left out of the meta portion of this game.  I wrote stuff based on my own memories and opinions.  It's all in good fun.

[ashersky]

Day 1 will start around 24 hours from when PMs went out.

[ashersky]

So...I highly recommend confirming by PM, if you haven't yet.

[ashersky]

Everyone logged into f.ds like they do every morning, but something felt...different.  What's happened?  No one felt like themselves anymore...

Everyone in this game is now somebody else.  There are good guys and bad guys.  Find them!


Day 1 has started and will last seven days!

[faust]

Wooo, I'm first!

Vote: yuma
Vote: mail-mi

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.0:

Not Voting (19): Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, xeiron, 2.7, chairs, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot, faust, [redacted]

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.1:

yuma (1): faust1
mail-mi (1): faust2

Voters: Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, xeiron, 2.7, chairs, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot, faust, [redacted]

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[faust]

Vote Count 1.1:

yuma (1): faust
mail-mi (1): faust

Voters: Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, xeiron, 2.7, chairs, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot, faust, [redacted]

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

Shouldn't the vote counts somehow specify which of the votes is the first and which the second? That doesn't get clear from this.

[ashersky]

Shouldn't the vote counts somehow specify which of the votes is the first and which the second? That doesn't get clear from this.

Good call.  Added a 1 and 2.

[Voltgloss]

Trash.  Chicken.  Trash.

[Dsell]

Sup guys!

I see Voltgloss has rolled his own meta.

[chairs]

vote: chairs
vote: ashersky

Not RVS.

[Twistedarcher]

Soft deadline, next Monday at 8 pm.

Good, that's settled.

[Dsell]

Nobody quite seems themselves....

Wait, I can lynch myself!!

Vote: Dsell!

[Twistedarcher]

Are there any limitations on guessing other players' metas?

[Voltaire]

Soft deadline, next Monday at 8 pm.

Good, that's settled.

That should be fine with me.

Does anyone know who the redacted player is?

[liopoil]

Soft deadline, next Monday at 8 pm.

Good, that's settled.

That should be fine with me.

Does anyone know who the redacted player is?

obv!yuma

[ashersky]

Are there any limitations on guessing other players' metas?

Only the limitations of time and space.

[liopoil]

vote: chairs
vote: ashersky

Not RVS.

I strongly object to you not revealing your reasons to these votes, the reasons which may have some benefit to town if they are revealed.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.2:

yuma (1): faust1
mail-mi (1): faust2
chairs (1): chairs1
ashersky (1): chairs2
Dsell (1): Dsell1

Voters: Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, xeiron, 2.7, chairs, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot, faust, [redacted]

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[mail-mi]

vote: mail-mi
vote: shraeye

Someone else vote mcmcsalot and we win.

[Dsell]

Nobody quite seems themselves....

Wait, I can lynch myself!!

Vote: Dsell!

Ugh I feel like my own signature is criticizing me.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

vote: ashersky for being the only one I recognize so far! So scummy.
Oh and...vote: shraeye should go without saying

Trash.  Chicken.  Trash.

Do we really have to go through this again???

[chairs]

 

vote: ashersky for being the only one I recognize so far! So scummy.
Oh and...vote: shraeye should go without saying

Trash.  Chicken.  Trash.

Do we really have to go through this again???

Duck duck chidckkun

[Voltaire]

vote: Morgrim7

[faust]

Vote Count 1.2:

yuma (1): faust1
mail-mi (1): faust2
chairs (1): chairs1
ashersky (1): chairs2
Dsell (1): Dsell1

Voters: Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, xeiron, 2.7, chairs, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot, faust, [redacted]

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

I think that, for clarity's sake, the vote counts should include who is not voting, and who is only voting with one vote. So I suggest adding the following:

Not voting: Dsell1, sudgy1, sudgy2, Voltaire1, Voltaire2, Voltgloss1, Voltgloss2, mail-mi1, mail-mi2, Eevee1, Eevee2, Jimmmmm1, Jimmmmm2, xeiron1, xeiron2, 2.71, 2.72, EFHW1, EFHW2, WalrusMcFishSr1, WalrusMcFishSr2, Robz8881, Robz8882, Twistedarcher1, Twistedarcher2, liopoil1, liopoil2, Morgrim71, Morgrim72, mcmcsalot1, mcmcsalot2, [redacted]1, [redacted]2

[faust]

There's also a slight problem with the 1,2-notation when it comes to 2.7...

[Twistedarcher]

I am taking Ashersky out of the pool of people we can lynch today. It's not happening, folks. Time to move on.

[chairs]

vote: voltaire

[xeiron]

So, right now we have no idea who is who, and any vote is pretty much an RVS vote. Not easy to find anyting better to do than just voting random, but I will try.
I think what was said pregame about scummy metas is an interesting thought. Shraeye, mcmc and mail-mi was mentioned.
However, If I remember correctly Sparky5856 has the highest scum to town ratio of all f.ds players. And it is so long time since he was active that I think the only reason he could be included in this game is for him always being scum.

Therefore Vote: sparky5856 as an RVS excersise to start the game.
I thing everyone should do the same.

I can se two outcomes of this.
1. We determine sparky is not a meta in the game.
This is the likely outcome. And it would is good to know.
2. We lynch scum.
Not likely, but really helpful if we do.

There is also a theoretical outcome of lynching town, but I think the probability of that is so close to zero that we need not to consider it.

[chairs]

Drunk BM Any1?

So, right now we have no idea who is who, and any vote is pretty much an RVS vote. Not easy to find anyting better to do than just voting random, but I will try.
I think what was said pregame about scummy metas is an interesting thought. Shraeye, mcmc and mail-mi was mentioned.
However, If I remember correctly Sparky5856 has the highest scum to town ratio of all f.ds players. And it is so long time since he was active that I think the only reason he could be included in this game is for him always being scum.

Therefore Vote: sparky5856 as an RVS excersise to start the game.
I thing everyone should do the same.

I can se two outcomes of this.
1. We determine sparky is not a meta in the game.
This is the likely outcome. And it would is good to know.
2. We lynch scum.
Not likely, but really helpful if we do.

There is also a theoretical outcome of lynching town, but I think the probability of that is so close to zero that we need not to consider it.

Blah blah blah

[Twistedarcher]

So, right now we have no idea who is who, and any vote is pretty much an RVS vote. Not easy to find anyting better to do than just voting random, but I will try.
I think what was said pregame about scummy metas is an interesting thought. Shraeye, mcmc and mail-mi was mentioned.
However, If I remember correctly Sparky5856 has the highest scum to town ratio of all f.ds players. And it is so long time since he was active that I think the only reason he could be included in this game is for him always being scum.

Therefore Vote: sparky5856 as an RVS excersise to start the game.
I thing everyone should do the same.

I can se two outcomes of this.
1. We determine sparky is not a meta in the game.
This is the likely outcome. And it would is good to know.
2. We lynch scum.
Not likely, but really helpful if we do.

There is also a theoretical outcome of lynching town, but I think the probability of that is so close to zero that we need not to consider it.

No. No, no, no, no, no.

[chairs]

maybe maybe duck chicken duck duck

[Morgrim7]

I am not phone posting, btw.

But I will Vote: Voltaire

[Dsell]

Drunk BM Any1?

Yes please

[Twistedarcher]

I am not phone posting, btw.

But I will Vote: Voltaire

Baaaaaaaa

[mail-mi]

I am taking Ashersky out of the pool of people we can lynch today. It's not happening, folks. Time to move on.

Hey, smartypants, what if I want to vote: ashersky, huh?

Btw, TA is totally vote: yuma

[Morgrim7]

I am not phone posting, btw.

But I will Vote: Voltaire

Baaaaaaaa

Sheep.

[faust]

All of you should know that I will have an extended VLA tomorrow morning (forum time) due to university stuff that I need to take care of.

[xeiron]

Yes, Really.
I think everyone should sheep me.

[Morgrim7]

Yes, Really.
I think everyone should sheep me.

Day Vigilante: xerion

[faust]

Yes, Really.
I think everyone should sheep me.

Your wish is my command!

Vote: sparky5856 even though I've never met the guy.

[chairs]

vote: yuma

Yes, Really.
I think everyone should sheep me.

I think it's you who can't resist sheeping me!

[Morgrim7]

Met meaning talked to directly on the forums, or met in person?

[mail-mi]

Guys. Let's save time and just assume I know everything. vote: shraeye

Also cool with vote: sparky

[faust]

Met meaning talked to directly on the forums, or met in person?

I have done neither, and what I meant is up to you to decide.

[Morgrim7]

Guys. Let's save time and just assume I know everything. vote: shraeye

Nononono.

Would you care for an apple?

[chairs]

Wanna lynch: yuma
Would lynch: yuma, shraeye
Won't lynch: Ducks.

[chairs]

Guys. Let's save time and just assume I know everything. vote: shraeye

Nononono.

Would you care for an apple?

Apples are for horses.

[Morgrim7]

Guys. Let's save time and just assume I know everything. vote: shraeye

Nononono.

Would you care for an apple?

Apples are for horses.

HOW DARE YOU!

[Dsell]

So nobody (else) would lynch me? Come on.

[chairs]

Okay, question time:

if you were a car what kind of car would you be? pls answer next post

[mail-mi]

Okay, question time:

if you were a car what kind of car would you be? pls answer next post

Ummmmmmm......... I don't know.

[chairs]

Okay, question time:

if you were a car what kind of car would you be? pls answer next post

Ummmmmmm......... I don't know.

IT'S A TRICK YOU'D BE A YACHT.

vote: mail-mi
vote: voltgloss

[Voltaire]

Okay, question time:

if you were a car what kind of car would you be? pls answer next post

A canary-yellow Edwardian roadster!

[mail-mi]

Everybody. I'm at school and bored. Please entertain me/.

[Voltgloss]

Chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.

Trash stump chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken:

Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.

[Robz888]

Chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.

Trash stump chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken:

Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.

This is a scumslip.

[ashersky]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

[Morgrim7]

Hello all Vote: Volts

[Dsell]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I'm.....confused.

[Morgrim7]

Vote: Dsell

[chairs]

Okay, question time:

if you were a car what kind of car would you be? pls answer next post

A canary-yellow Edwardian roadster!

WRONG!

vote: EFHW

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.3:

mail-mi (1): faust1
ashersky (1): walrus1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim2
shraeye (2): walrus2, mail-mi1
Morgrim7 (1): Voltaire1
sparky5856 (3): xeiron1, faust2, mail-mi2
Voltgloss (2): chairs1, Morgrim1
EFHW (1): chairs2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[chairs]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

 

[chairs]

Vote Count 1.3:

mail-mi (1): faust1
ashersky (1): walrus1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim2
shraeye (2): walrus2, mail-mi1
Morgrim7 (1): Voltaire1
sparky5856 (3): xeiron1, faust2, mail-mi2
Voltgloss (2): chairs1, Morgrim1
EFHW (1): chairs2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

vote: sparky5856 vote: ashersky

[Dsell]

Vote: Ashersky

I guess

[Dsell]

Whoops,

Vote: Ashersky

[ashersky]

Wait, now, this is interesting. I wonder if it does that every time...? (relevant xkcd)

Vote: ashersky

[Dsell]

Vote: Dsell

Yay!

[chairs]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

Also we confirmed way back that plans are bad.

[faust]

Vote Count 1.3:

mail-mi (1): faust1
ashersky (1): walrus1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim2
shraeye (2): walrus2, mail-mi1
Morgrim7 (1): Voltaire1
sparky5856 (3): xeiron1, faust2, mail-mi2
Voltgloss (2): chairs1, Morgrim1
EFHW (1): chairs2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

This is even worse than last time, now it doesn't even show the voters!

[Twistedarcher]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

This is absolutely not a good idea.

[Twistedarcher]

Important thing to note:

Normally, we don't want to bring someone up to L-1 incase someone hammers. In this case, since we all have two votes, we cannot bring anyone up to L-2, incase someone hammers.

Do not bring someone up to L-2 until I say it's okay. Anyone who doesn't follow this is announcing that they are scum.

[Voltaire]

TA makes a good point about being careful with votes.

[Voltgloss]

3) All players have two active votes. They may not be on the same player.

Trash.

[faust]

Important thing to note:

Normally, we don't want to bring someone up to L-1 incase someone hammers. In this case, since we all have two votes, we cannot bring anyone up to L-2, incase someone hammers.

Do not bring someone up to L-2 until I say it's okay. Anyone who doesn't follow this is announcing that they are scum.

I will not follow this.

[Eevee]

i know i've been lurking and i'm really sorry, i've just been so so busy with real life commitments. i dont even have time to read the setup, maybe someone who got assigned a theory-meta coud explain us what we should do here?

i know, probably shouldnt have signed up... i just love mafia so much!

[Twistedarcher]

Important thing to note:

Normally, we don't want to bring someone up to L-1 incase someone hammers. In this case, since we all have two votes, we cannot bring anyone up to L-2, incase someone hammers.

Do not bring someone up to L-2 until I say it's okay. Anyone who doesn't follow this is announcing that they are scum.

I will not follow this.

Doesn't matter if you like it or not. It's better for town, and you know I have good intentions.

[Twistedarcher]

i know i've been lurking and i'm really sorry, i've just been so so busy with real life commitments. i dont even have time to read the setup, maybe someone who got assigned a theory-meta coud explain us what we should do here?

i know, probably shouldnt have signed up... i just love mafia so much!

lol @ your posting restriction

[faust]

Important thing to note:

Normally, we don't want to bring someone up to L-1 incase someone hammers. In this case, since we all have two votes, we cannot bring anyone up to L-2, incase someone hammers.

Do not bring someone up to L-2 until I say it's okay. Anyone who doesn't follow this is announcing that they are scum.

I will not follow this.

Doesn't matter if you like it or not. It's better for town, and you know I have good intentions.

You're clearly scum for not voting for me.

[faust]

Vote: Twistedarcher

[Twistedarcher]

Important thing to note:

Normally, we don't want to bring someone up to L-1 incase someone hammers. In this case, since we all have two votes, we cannot bring anyone up to L-2, incase someone hammers.

Do not bring someone up to L-2 until I say it's okay. Anyone who doesn't follow this is announcing that they are scum.

I will not follow this.

Doesn't matter if you like it or not. It's better for town, and you know I have good intentions.

You're clearly scum for not voting for me.

I'd vote you if I knew your meta. I'm trying to figure it out now.

[faust]

Unvote: Twistedarcher
Vote: yuma

[chairs]

Important thing to note:

Normally, we don't want to bring someone up to L-1 incase someone hammers. In this case, since we all have two votes, we cannot bring anyone up to L-2, incase someone hammers.

Do not bring someone up to L-2 until I say it's okay. Anyone who doesn't follow this is announcing that they are scum.

3) All players have two active votes. They may not be on the same player.

Let me repeat for emphasis.

3) All players have two active votes. They may not be on the same player.

vote: ashersky
vote: yuma

[Jimmmmm]

Guys! I have a plan.

[Jimmmmm]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

[Twistedarcher]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

This is not happening.

[Jimmmmm]

Expect to hear part 1 of the plan some time in the next few days.

[Twistedarcher]

That's what I'm talking about!!

Has this always been your signature?

[Jimmmmm]

That's what I'm talking about!!

Has this always been your signature?

No.

[chairs]

That's what I'm talking about!!

Has this always been your signature?

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

[Jimmmmm]

That's what I'm talking about!!

Has this always been your signature?

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

Is chairs usually this aggressive?

[sudgy]

vote: mail-mi
vote: shraeye

Someone else vote mcmcsalot and we win.

Hey, this seems like a good idea!  Vote: mcmcsalot.

Guys. Let's save time and just assume I know everything. vote: shraeye

Also cool with vote: sparky

I see where you're getting at with voting sparky, that's a good idea.  Vote: sparky

Actually, I like Jimmmmm's plan.  Vote: ashersky

[Twistedarcher]

That's what I'm talking about!!

Has this always been your signature?

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

Is chairs usually this aggressive?

No, it's almost as if he's taken on another player's meta...

[chairs]

That's what I'm talking about!!

Has this always been your signature?

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

Is chairs usually this aggressive?

No, it's almost as if he's taken on another player's meta...

Rolled 1d6 : 2, total 2

New plan: roll 1-3 vote yuma, roll 4-6 vote ashersky, roll a 6 take a drink

[chairs]

...

wait i'm already voting.

[mail-mi]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Hello ash. What have you been up to?

[chairs]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Hello ash. What have you been up to?

lynch all asherskys.

[Robz888]

I support Jimm/ash's plan.

[Voltgloss]

REMEMBER:  OBVIOUS ASPECTS OF PLAYERS' METAS ARE ALSO THE MOST OBVIOUSLY EASY TO FAKE.

BY WHICH I MEAN, chicken.

[ashersky]

Anyone that hasn't weighed in on my plan already should absolutely do so. I'll make a start:

Vote: Gveoniz
Vote: faust

Vote: ashersky

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.4:

ashersky (4): walrus1, chairs1, Dsell2, sudgy2
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim2
shraeye (2): walrus2, mail-mi1
Morgrim7 (1): Voltaire1
sparky5856 (4): xeiron1, faust1, mail-mi2, sudgy1
Voltgloss (1): Morgrim1
EFHW (1):
yuma (2): faust2, chairs2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[mail-mi]

GUYS! REDACTED IS INVISIYUMA!

Carry on, now.

[Morgrim7]

Carrying on. And I'll Vote: Morgrim7

[EFHW]

I can't believe how much I missed!  I'll catch up now that Game of Thrones is in night.

[EFHW]

sure'n this is lively! 

[EFHW]

vote: raerae
vote: Eevee

[EFHW]

vote: raerae
vote: Eevee

A surprising number of ashersky's in this game.  Perhaps he has been cloned?

[EFHW]

[Jorbles]

/tag

[liopoil]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

This is even more ridiculous than chairs not revealing the reason for his RVS votes. I demand you explain this plan in its entirety immediately.

Vote: chairs
Vote: Jimmmmmm

[WalrusMcFishSr]

That's what I'm talking about!!

Has this always been your signature?

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

Is chairs usually this aggressive?

I feel that it is a blatant AtE which should not be tolerated. What manner of uncivilized nonsense is this? Let's keep things rational people. I would vote for him if I knew whom to vote for. I mean seriously, do we all have to go through this again???

Man, my meta looks way more fun than this! I wish I had rolled myself. vote: WalrusMcFishSr

[liopoil]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

This is even more ridiculous than chairs not revealing the reason for his RVS votes. I demand you explain this plan in its entirety immediately.

Vote: chairs
Vote: Jimmmmmm

oh, forgot about the weird voting thing.

Vote: ...Robz?
Vote: Ashersky

[chairs]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

This is even more ridiculous than chairs not revealing the reason for his RVS votes. I demand you explain this plan in its entirety immediately.

Vote: chairs
Vote: Jimmmmmm

Who is this chairs fellow and why didn't he explain his voting?

I, however, have yet to participate in a single aspect of RVS.  All my votes make perfect sense!

Also,

vote: chairs
vote: sparky

[EFHW]

crickets

[mail-mi]

crickets

Oh hush up.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.5:

ashersky (3): Dsell2, sudgy2, liopoil2
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim1
shraeye (2): walrus1, mail-mi1
Morgrim7 (2): Voltaire1, Morgrim2
sparky5856 (5): xeiron1, faust1, mail-mi2, sudgy1, chairs2
yuma (1): faust2
raerae (1): EFHW1
Eevee (1): EFHW2
Robz888 (1): liopoil1
Walrus (1): walrus2
chairs (1): chairs1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Dsell]

rickets

[mcmcsalot]

Ash seems to be on to something.

[Dsell]

Ash seems to be on to something.

What does he know??

[mcmcsalot]

i know i've been lurking and i'm really sorry, i've just been so so busy with real life commitments. i dont even have time to read the setup, maybe someone who got assigned a theory-meta coud explain us what we should do here?

i know, probably shouldnt have signed up... i just love mafia so much!

Woah woah woah? Are you me???

[mail-mi]

Ash seems to be on to something.

Well, then vote for sparky smartypants!

[mcmcsalot]

Yes, Really.
I think everyone should sheep me.

Day Vigilante: xerion

Also I know we have had some great pr performances but no uses of pr's, especially vigs without a lot of thought and knowledge

[EFHW]

mail-mi is sassy!

[mail-mi]

Don't vote chairs, he's def. vig.

[mail-mi]

Don't vote chairs, he's def. vig.

.
And by chairs, I mean chairs' meta. Duh.

[EFHW]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

 

vote chairs's meta

[EFHW]

duh, vote shraeye

[EFHW]

Post Count!

1.  Dsell  19
2.  sudgy  14
3.  Voltaire  8
4.  Voltgloss  15
5.  mail-mi  21
6.  Eevee  4
7.  Jimmmmm  11
8.  Xeiron  3
9.  2.7....  2
10.  Chairs  25
11.  EFHW  16
12.  WalrusMcFishSr  4
13.  Robz888  3
14.  Twistedarcher  14
15.  liopoil  7
16.  Morgrim7  10
17.  mcmcsalot  5
18.  faust  13
19.  [redacted]  0

I do NOT subtract pre-game posts.

[EFHW]

Don't vote chairs, he's def. vig.

If he shoots N1 then he's anti-town!

[EFHW]

redacted is lurking.  vote: redacted.  chairs is leading the post count!  you have internet now?  Morgrim7 is at the middle of the post count - clear middling scum sign.

[Morgrim7]

Morgrim7 is at the middle of the post count - clear middling scum sign.

YESYESYESYES!!!

[sudgy]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

 

vote chairs's meta

Why did you just go against what mail-mi said?  I think he's town.

[Robz888]

Post Count!

1.  Dsell  19
2.  sudgy  14
3.  Voltaire  8
4.  Voltgloss  15
5.  mail-mi  21
6.  Eevee  4
7.  Jimmmmm  11
8.  Xeiron  3
9.  2.7....  2
10.  Chairs  25
11.  EFHW  16
12.  WalrusMcFishSr  4
13.  Robz888  3
14.  Twistedarcher  14
15.  liopoil  7
16.  Morgrim7  10
17.  mcmcsalot  5
18.  faust  13
19.  [redacted]  0

I do NOT subtract pre-game posts.

I would have a low post count if I were scum, or if I were town. So you can't say that my low post count is scummy.

[mcmcsalot]

Don't vote chairs, he's def. vig.

If he shoots N1 then he's anti-town!

Agreed! Never shoot night one.

[chairs]

redacted is lurking.  vote: redacted.  chairs is leading the post count!  you have internet now?  Morgrim7 is at the middle of the post count - clear middling scum sign.

Still phone posting but I'm really excited about this game so I'm sneaking on at work

[mail-mi]

Don't vote chairs, he's def. vig.

If he shoots N1 then he's anti-town!

unvote: shraeye
Vote: Robz

[Voltaire]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

[Voltgloss]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night kills a lot easier.

FTFY.  Trash.

[Voltaire]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night kills a lot easier.

FTFY.  Trash.

But it will also help out any town PRs we have out there. I definitely think it's the way to go.

[sudgy]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night kills a lot easier.

FTFY.  Trash.

But it will also help out any town PRs we have out there. I definitely think it's the way to go.

Sadly, it's only votes and NKs, not night actions.

[Voltaire]

Sadly, it's only votes and NKs, not night actions.

Uh oh. Well, it should still help out with voting.

[Twistedarcher]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

[faust]

I support Voltaire's plan. Everyone should remember not to include their own meta when making the list though; this could result in a modkill.

[faust]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

How are you even going to policy vote without having a list of metas telling you who you need to vote for?

[Twistedarcher]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

How are you even going to policy vote without having a list of metas telling you who you need to vote for?

I have a private list!

[Voltaire]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

But scum can make a list on their own together at night anyway. I think that this should help even the playing field.

Also I like the sparky idea. vote: sparky

[faust]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

But scum can make a list on their own together at night anyway. I think that this should help even the playing field.

Also I like the sparky idea. vote: sparky

That's L-3! Can we get 3 more people on this?

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: sparky why not?

[EFHW]

what's the sparky idea?

[EFHW]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night kills a lot easier.

FTFY.  Trash.

But it will also help out any town PRs we have out there. I definitely think it's the way to go.

Sadly, it's only votes and NKs, not night actions.

Hold on, there are no PRs?  What kind of bastard game is that?  This is not what I signed up for!

[sudgy]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night kills a lot easier.

FTFY.  Trash.

But it will also help out any town PRs we have out there. I definitely think it's the way to go.

Sadly, it's only votes and NKs, not night actions.

Hold on, there are no PRs?  What kind of bastard game is that?  This is not what I signed up for!

The PRs target who they actually are, not their meta.  The sparky idea, as mail-mi said, is that since sparky was almost always scum, if his meta is in the game, he must be scum.  It's better than nothing.

[EFHW]

ok, I'll sheep vote: Sparky

[Dsell]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

[chairs]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night kills a lot easier.

FTFY.  Trash.

But it will also help out any town PRs we have out there. I definitely think it's the way to go.

Sadly, it's only votes and NKs, not night actions.

Hold on, there are no PRs?  What kind of bastard game is that?  This is not what I signed up for!

We don't know if there are PRs, since even if somebody were a PR they couldn't tell you what PR they were or even that they were a PR.

[chairs]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

SCUMSLIP AHOY, CAP'N!

[faust]

ok, I'll sheep vote: Sparky

L-1! Sparky, if you're out there, do you want to claim? Oh wait, right... this will get you modkilled. Someone want to hammer?

[Dsell]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

SCUMSLIP AHOY, CAP'N!

"I'm with TA?"

[Voltaire]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

I'm not talking about "solving" the game, I'm talking about making it easier for town to lynch. I think scum would want to keep this information for themselves. unvote: Morgrim7 vote: Insomniac

[mail-mi]

If Insomniacs meta is scum, he is bussing today. Got that?

[faust]

We need another vote count with all that's happening. preferably one that is actually accurate and shows all the relevant information.

[sudgy]

If Insomniacs meta is scum, he is bussing today. Got that?

I think so too.

[mcmcsalot]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

I'm not talking about "solving" the game, I'm talking about making it easier for town to lynch. I think scum would want to keep this information for themselves. unvote: Morgrim7 vote: Insomniac

yea I like the list thing, vote: mcmcsalot vote: robz888 should we be voting random people or people not voted in vote counts already?

[faust]

If Insomniacs meta is scum, he is bussing today. Got that?

Except he can't bus because he doesn't know the metas of his scum partners.

[Dsell]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

I'm not talking about "solving" the game, I'm talking about making it easier for town to lynch. I think scum would want to keep this information for themselves. unvote: Morgrim7 vote: Insomniac

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

[mail-mi]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

I'm not talking about "solving" the game, I'm talking about making it easier for town to lynch. I think scum would want to keep this information for themselves. unvote: Morgrim7 vote: Insomniac

yea I like the list thing, vote: mcmcsalot vote: robz888 should we be voting random people or people not voted in vote counts already?

Hey you, whippersnapper, vote sparky!

[faust]

yea I like the list thing, vote: mcmcsalot vote: robz888 should we be voting random people or people not voted in vote counts already?

You should vote for sparky.

PPE: what mail-mi said.

[faust]

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

Blah blah blah there are lots of good reasons to support this list for town and none against it, but I don't support it.

[Dsell]

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

Blah blah blah there are lots of good reasons to support this list for town and none against it, but I don't support it.

The reasons against it are actually super strong, but sure!

[Dsell]

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

Blah blah blah there are lots of good reasons to support this list for town and none against it, but I don't support it.

The reasons against it are actually super strong, but sure!

Plus it's sort of against the spirit of the game.

I'm gonna try to win but I'm not taking this seriously.

Count me out of list building.

[EFHW]

REMEMBER:  OBVIOUS ASPECTS OF PLAYERS' METAS ARE ALSO THE MOST OBVIOUSLY EASY TO FAKE.

BY WHICH I MEAN, chicken.

Because of this ^, even a list wouldn't help much anyway. 

[chairs]

REMEMBER:  OBVIOUS ASPECTS OF PLAYERS' METAS ARE ALSO THE MOST OBVIOUSLY EASY TO FAKE.

BY WHICH I MEAN, chicken.

Because of this ^, even a list wouldn't help much anyway.

An ode to my disagreement, in acrostic.

Please, everyone knows that
Only fools will fake metas
Since it will be obvious
To those with the

Real copy, and
E'er they'll announce
Slyly, so as not to out
Themselves,
Really? You don't seem like
Insomniac or Ashersky or
Chairs or
TwistedArcher.  Why are you
Insinuating a meta not yours?
Only scum would do that!
Now let's see who you might really be,
So we can lynch you!

[xeiron]

I think we should get a hammer on Sparky5856.
If nothing happens, time is ready to move on and start scumhunting.
Now we are just fooling around.

[xeiron]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

SCUMSLIP AHOY, CAP'N!

Chairs.
Could you please explain why this is a scumslip?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

Blah blah blah there are lots of good reasons to support this list for town and none against it, but I don't support it.

The reasons against it are actually super strong, but sure!

Plus it's sort of against the spirit of the game.

I'm gonna try to win but I'm not taking this seriously.

Count me out of list building.

Yes. This game is to be a relaxing island mojito for me, not a mandatory amphetamine injection. I mean, I won't be a dick about it, but still. Do we seriously all have to go through this again??

Sure, vote: Sparky5856. Take that Sparky!

[chairs]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan.

I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

I'm with TA here. I have no interest in "solving" this game at this point!

SCUMSLIP AHOY, CAP'N!

Chairs.
Could you please explain why this is a scumslip?

Minecraft.

[ashersky]

So my votes do not even get counted? That's great.

Everyone should absolutely listen to me tomorrow, when I announce which meta has to die.

Vote: ashersky

[ashersky]

Vote count in a few.

[xeiron]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

[Dsell]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

Is your post restriction that you must take everything literally and seriously?

Don't answer that.

[2.71828.....]

and I am late to the party.  and poor sparky. and HUGE scumread on Walrus for hammering.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.6:

ashersky (3): Dsell2, sudgy2, liopoil2
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim1
shraeye (1): EFHW1
Morgrim7 (1): Morgrim2
sparky5856 (9): xeiron1, faust1, mail-mi1, sudgy1, chairs2, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2, walrus2
yuma (1): faust2
Robz888 (3): liopoil1, mail-mi2, mcmc2
Walrus (1): walrus1
chairs (1): chairs1
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
mcmc (1): mcmc1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[2.71828.....]

In fact, this whole string of people looks scummy:
xeiron1, faust1, mail-mi1, sudgy1, chairs2, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2, walrus2

[EFHW]

so is the day over?  Maybe that was a bit precipitous!

[2.71828.....]

vote: chairs
vote: ashersky

Not RVS.

Reason #2 why chairs2 is scummy.  In fact, I am getting a bigger scum read from this than from the Walrus hammer.
vote: chairs
vote: walrus

[EFHW]

2.7...  kindly share your ideas about how we should scumhunt. 

[xeiron]

In fact, this whole string of people looks scummy:
xeiron1, faust1, mail-mi1, sudgy1, chairs2, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2, walrus2

Can you explain why these people look scummy?

[xeiron]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

Is your post restriction that you must take everything literally and seriously?

Don't answer that.

I think it is time for more people to take this game seriously.

[2.71828.....]

Ok.  So we know that roles were given out randomly.  Well, nothing is truly random.  So lets take the list of players in order, mark every third and fourth player as a possible target, then target the person they meet at.  AND Look.  Walrus.  my suspicions are confirmed.

[EFHW]

And who is Walrus, really?

[EFHW]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

Is your post restriction that you must take everything literally and seriously?

Don't answer that.

I think it is time for more people to take this game seriously.

I think xeiron got himself for a meta

[Dsell]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

Is your post restriction that you must take everything literally and seriously?

Don't answer that.

I think it is time for more people to take this game seriously.

Nah.

[Twistedarcher]

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

Blah blah blah there are lots of good reasons to support this list for town and none against it, but I don't support it.

You nailed it!

[EFHW]

Nah.

hmmmm, maybe that's Australian for "no".  Or Finnish? 

[Twistedarcher]

So no one has the sparky meta. Time to move on folks.

I told you it was a bad plan. But no one listens to me. This town is hopeless.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Eh. It was a goddamn fake lynch. No harm, no foul. Did anybody really expect sparky to be a real meta anyway? I don't even know who sparky is. Cool your jets there e.

Besides, it's very easy to criticisize other peoples' votes when you haven't placed any yourself, hmm?

[EFHW]

No, he was listed in the votes, and others who were voted were not.  That guy Geo-something.

[Jimmmmm]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

[EFHW]

So no one has the sparky meta. Time to move on folks.

I told you it was a bad plan. But no one listens to me. This town is hopeless.

How many ashersky's could there be? 

[chairs]

vote: yuma
vote: chairs

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

Jimmmmm
Jimwithfivems
Jim⁵

[EFHW]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

alphabetically please!

[Jimmmmm]

vote: yuma
vote: chairs

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

Jimmmmm
Jimwithfivems
Jim⁵

That doesn't count.

[Eevee]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

vote: voltaire

scum would definitely want to do this in a setup like this (for easy town cred), it looks very pre-planned. just about the only way to get towncred for theory talk, i'm pretty sure about this guys.

[sudgy]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

I thought you said that all of the town needed to participate in this plan?

[2.71828.....]

Eh. It was a goddamn fake lynch. No harm, no foul. Did anybody really expect sparky to be a real meta anyway? I don't even know who sparky is. Cool your jets there e.

Besides, it's very easy to criticisize other peoples' votes when you haven't placed any yourself, hmm?

Selective post reading......another scumtail.  I did vote shortly after I posted my scum reads.  I don't know about the rest of you, but something is fishy (or walrusy) here.

[Jimmmmm]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

I am 100% sure that my idea is pro-town, knowing only what I know about me.

[EFHW]

oh that Geo- guy vote was ashersky's!  (the real one).  He implied though that votes for unused metas would not show up.  I feel misled, ashersky!

[EFHW]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

vote: voltaire

scum would definitely want to do this in a setup like this (for easy town cred), it looks very pre-planned. just about the only way to get towncred for theory talk, i'm pretty sure about this guys.

Voltaire just isn't feeling like himself today.  He wants be called by some other name ...

[Eevee]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

Robz888, Galzria, yuma

[Voltgloss]

Ok.  So we know that roles were given out randomly.  Well, nothing is truly random.  So lets take the list of players in order, mark every third and fourth player as a possible target, then target the person they meet at.  AND Look.  Walrus.  my suspicions are confirmed.

11) Metas, alignments, and roles will all be rolled and assigned at random, except for the ones that aren't

[EFHW]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

Robz888, Galzria, yuma

Those aren't alphabetical!  /out!

[Voltaire]

So I guess there is no sparky meta in the game. That's too bad.

I think scum would want to lurk, it would be so hard for them to post as someone else, especially not their own alignment. I want to vote for e but I don't know his meta.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Oh yeah? Well something feels irrational about e!

[EFHW]

Oh yeah? Well something feels irrational about e!

lololol

[EFHW]

(/in, btw).  Sorry about that.

[Twistedarcher]

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

vote: voltaire

scum would definitely want to do this in a setup like this (for easy town cred), it looks very pre-planned. just about the only way to get towncred for theory talk, i'm pretty sure about this guys.

I agree. Whose meta is Voltaire, you think?

Vote: Ashersky

[Eevee]

oh right, forgot about the voting mechanism.. hmmh. unvote wouldnt want to punish the wrong guy!

[Voltaire]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

[Dsell]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

[2.71828.....]

All right, lets get down to business for real.

18 players.  If we include only those 18 players and assume that everyone gets a meta from another person in the game, there are 17*17! different ways to assign metas.  However, the chances that Walrus has Chairs meta (for example) is 1/17 (0.05882352941).  so we have a 1/(17*17!) (0%) shot of getting everyone's meta right, but an amazingly awesome 5.88% chance to get just one person's meta correct.  So we should focus in on one person and examine them for a meta and figure out who it is.  There is really no other option.  I suggest we start with Walrus, since he was my first scum read.

[Eevee]

some metas are just so so much easier, though.

[xeiron]

It's a five-part plan that is guaranteed to catch at least one scum, and should give Town around 80% chance of winning. Every player must follow the plan to the tee or it won't work, and I can only reveal one step at a time. You're just going to have to believe me.

Jim.
I think you should start by explaing the first step. That will give us some time to thing about if we trust in, and follow this plan.
While you are at it, I would like to ask you. Do you really believe that the the plan is so obvious *not anti-town* that 18 players will be able to trust it without knowledge of the plan?

I am 100% sure that my idea is pro-town, knowing only what I know about me.

I am not sure I agree, but I anyways, I want to thank you for answering the question. Thanks goes to chairs as well.

[Twistedarcher]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

[Dsell]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

That'd be really stretching the bounds of "pretty clear" but I suppose you could be right.

[xeiron]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

[Dsell]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

K so

Ashersky is the mod.

Bastard mod.

Whatever he's doing, I really really doubt he's actually playing the game or tipping the scales for one side or the other.

[Dsell]

I'm almost feeling trolled but I'm not sure if that's any specific person's meta.

[Eevee]

Ozle?

[chairs]

I'm almost feeling trolled but I'm not sure if that's any specific person's meta.

That's definitely ashersky's meta.

vote: ashersky
vote: yuma

[Twistedarcher]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

That'd be really stretching the bounds of "pretty clear" but I suppose you could be right.

No, I mean his meta forces him to make that accusation, not that the accusation is true.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.6:

ashersky (6): Dsell2, sudgy2, liopoil2, TA1, xeiron1, chairs1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim1
shraeye (1): EFHW1
Morgrim7 (1): Morgrim2
sparky5856 (8): xeiron1, faust1, mail-mi1, sudgy1, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2, walrus2
yuma (2): faust2, chairs2
Robz888 (3): liopoil1, mail-mi2, mcmc2
Walrus (2): walrus1, 2.72
chairs (1): 2.71
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
mcmc (1): mcmc1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[EFHW]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

This is a terribad idea!  We guess wrong and the meta turns out to be in the game and bam! that person is lynched.

[EFHW]

Either we recognize someone's meta or we don't.  Knowing that they aren't someone who is unlikely to be in the game is not helpful information. 

[EFHW]

2.7's plan could work though.  We start with a player we want to lynch, figure out his (you won't lynch me, of course) meta and then vote.

[EFHW]

are we guaranteed that each meta has only been assigned once?

[Morgrim7]

Vote: Sparks

[Morgrim7]

Not phone posting, btw 

[sudgy]

Vote: Sparks

He was already lynched (but it didn't work).

[Twistedarcher]

I know who morgrim is!

[Morgrim7]

Vote: Sparks

He was already lynched (but it didn't work).

You're assuming I don't know this already.

[Twistedarcher]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

This is a terribad idea!  We guess wrong and the meta turns out to be in the game and bam! that person is lynched.

Unvote

Agree with EFHW. She speaks the sense. This plan is bad.

Best case scenario, we waste a lot of time.

Worst case scenario, we random lynch someone.

The only way to confirm a meta is in the game is by lynching a random person!

[Dsell]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

That'd be really stretching the bounds of "pretty clear" but I suppose you could be right.

No, I mean his meta forces him to make that accusation, not that the accusation is true.

Oh, I see. Ok.

[ashersky]

are we guaranteed that each meta has only been assigned once?

False face must hide what the false heart doth know.

[xeiron]

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

K so

Ashersky is the mod.

Bastard mod.

Whatever he's doing, I really really doubt he's actually playing the game or tipping the scales for one side or the other.

This is excactly why it is interesting.
I cannot remember any game where we have played "follow the mod" before.
I am not sure what will happend, but I think we can learn something from it.

[mail-mi]

Well shoot. Back to my old plan. It was better anyway.

vote: shraeye
Vote: mcmc

[chairs]

vote: chairs
vote: ashersky

Yur puurt thuur chiir-ken airn der bewl

[Voltgloss]

ChiCKEN?!?

[Morgrim7]

I know who morgrim is!

Wish I did.

[EFHW]

can someone explain this chicken business?

[Dsell]

can someone explain this chicken business?

Oh, man. I don't have a lot of time, but I know that the suppliers are generally split between those that have them in small cages and those who let them roam free, "free range" chicken as it were. I honestly don't know much about the distribution side but I'd imagine it's fairly standard refrigerated trucks transporting them to processors, where they chicken may be fried, breaded, frozen, nuggeted, and sent to retailers, of which there are many.

I mean, I think there are books on this subject???

[mail-mi]

can someone explain this chicken business?

See Jorbles Sea hag mafia if you really must know.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.7:

ashersky (5): Dsell2, sudgy2, liopoil2, xeiron1, chairs2
Dsell (1): Dsell1
shraeye (2): EFHW1, mail-mi1
Morgrim7 (1): Morgrim1
sparky5856 (8): xeiron1, faust1, sudgy1, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2, walrus2, Morgrim2
yuma (1): faust2
Robz888 (2): liopoil1, mcmc2
Walrus (2): walrus1, 2.72
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
mcmc (2): mcmc1, mail-mi2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Morgrim7]

Hmm. Unvote

[Voltgloss]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

That'd be really stretching the bounds of "pretty clear" but I suppose you could be right.

No, I mean his meta forces him to make that accusation, not that the accusation is true.

TA, WHY DO YOU ASSUME VOLTAIRE DOESN'T HAVE SOUND BASIS FOR THINKING THERE ARE TWO SCUMTEAMS?

[mcmcsalot]

Wait so we can vote for anyone and it shows up, we just can't lynch them unless they are in the game, that's crazy.

vote: ashersky

Vote: Yuma

[chairs]

Wait so we can vote for anyone and it shows up, we just can't lynch them unless they are in the game, that's crazy.

vote: ashersky

Vote: Yuma

BAWK BAWK CHIKKUN.

Get with the boat man!

[chairs]

vote: ashersky
vote: chairs

Just in case.

[Voltaire]

Woah I don't see how anything I've done is scummy. I am just trying to make sure we are all able to vote.

Also I think it is pretty clear there are at least two scum teams.

Where on earth do you get that from?

I'd imagine his role PM.

That'd be really stretching the bounds of "pretty clear" but I suppose you could be right.

No, I mean his meta forces him to make that accusation, not that the accusation is true.

I may or may not have a posting restriction, we can't reveal anything about our roles! I think after the game ashersky will provide an epiphany explaining everything. I can't see any way we don't have at least two scum teams, one might be some sort of meta cult though. I don't know if that would count as a scum faction.

[Eevee]

Should we do a mass alignment claim?

It's of course unlikely to do anything, but if it does something, I think it's more likely to help than hurt.

Also if anyone can figure out how to vote for voltaire, I strongly believe in the "scum decided in the qt that making a list like that will seem protown" case I made earlier.

[chairs]

Should we do a mass alignment claim?

It's of course unlikely to do anything, but if it does something, I think it's more likely to help than hurt.

Also if anyone can figure out how to vote for voltaire, I strongly believe in the "scum decided in the qt that making a list like that will seem protown" case I made earlier.

ALIGNMENT: PRO-EATING CHIUURKUN

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

Robz888, Galzria, yuma

Those aren't alphabetical!  /out!

This kind of emotional blackmail is completely unacceptable and a prime example of what's driving this community apart. Threatening to /out over a simple matter of alphabetization? You can plainly tell that this is nothing more than a scummy gambit designed to coerce sympathy. This sort of win-at-all-costs attitude is surely something to be denounced.

I mean seriously, do we all have to go through this again?

[Jimmmmm]

Just waiting for four more people to follow the plan part 1a. Come on guys, guaranteed scum lynch here!

[Eevee]

I think I know who walrus is!

[Eevee]

Upon rereading, his posts have also been absolutely hilarious.

[Eevee]

Not even going to tell who he is for the folks who haven't figured it out, I don't want him gone from the game!

[EFHW]

I think I know who walrus is!

He sounds kind of like you!

[Eevee]

I think I know who walrus is!

He sounds kind of like you!

Don't help them kill me!

I wish I was that funny.

[EFHW]

unvote: sparky
vote: ashersky

[mcmcsalot]

All these metas, alignment claiming? Ridiculous

I think an ashersky lynch is smart, even ashersky says it!

[2.71828.....]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

Robz888, Galzria, yuma

Those aren't alphabetical!  /out!

This kind of emotional blackmail is completely unacceptable and a prime example of what's driving this community apart. Threatening to /out over a simple matter of alphabetization? You can plainly tell that this is nothing more than a scummy gambit designed to coerce sympathy. This sort of win-at-all-costs attitude is surely something to be denounced.

I mean seriously, do we all have to go through this again?

Good point.  Big scum read on EFHW for that

[EFHW]

Okay, time for part 1a of the plan. Remember, we have to follow it precisely or it won't work.

I need five people to each list the names of three f.ds players whose metas may be used in this game. Maybe one of them is your meta, maybe not.

Robz888, Galzria, yuma

Those aren't alphabetical!  /out!

This kind of emotional blackmail is completely unacceptable and a prime example of what's driving this community apart. Threatening to /out over a simple matter of alphabetization? You can plainly tell that this is nothing more than a scummy gambit designed to coerce sympathy. This sort of win-at-all-costs attitude is surely something to be denounced.

I mean seriously, do we all have to go through this again?

Good point.  Big scum read on EFHW for that

you realize it was a joke, right?  a meta thing.

[Robz888]

This game is really entertaining. But of course I would say, that regardless of whether I was town or scum.

[mcmcsalot]

This game is really entertaining. But of course I would say, that regardless of whether I was town or scum.

Ooh, ooh, ooh, I got ya!

[Twistedarcher]

This game is really entertaining. But of course I would say, that regardless of whether I was town or scum.

Scumtell

Vote:Sudgy

[chairs]

This game is really entertaining. But of course I would say, that regardless of whether I was town or scum.

Scumtell

Vote:Sudgy

Wasn't he a serial killer that game?

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.8:

ashersky (7): Dsell2, sudgy2, liopoil2, xeiron1, chairs1, mcmc1, EFHW2
Dsell (1): Dsell1
shraeye (2): EFHW1, mail-mi1
sparky5856 (6): xeiron1, faust1, sudgy1, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, walrus2
yuma (2): faust2, mcmc2
Robz888 (1): liopoil1
Walrus (2): walrus1, 2.72
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs2
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
mcmc (1): mail-mi2
sudgy (1): TA1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[mail-mi]

unvote: mcmc
Vote: sudgy

[sudgy]

Unvote: sparky
vote: sudgy

[chairs]

intent to THOR-MODE IT

[EFHW]

intent to THOR-MODE IT

Yo, this dude?  Chuck Norris meets sledgehammer?

[mail-mi]

LEt's lynch sudgy Robz because he's probably scum even if he isn't.

[Eevee]

This game is really entertaining. But of course I would say, that regardless of whether I was town or scum.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I feel as if I haven't been as active and analytical in this game as I should be. I've had a really busy weekend, and I really intend to sink my teeth into it on Monday.

For now I'd like to examine one of my top scumreads, Robz888. Let's take a post-by-post look at his so-called "contributions" this game.

Chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.

Trash stump chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken:

Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.
Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken.

This is a scumslip.

Right off the bat with an unfair accusation. I mean, attacking poor Voltgloss just because he seems to have developed a speech impediment? Not cool Robz. Not cool at all.

I support Jimm/ash's plan.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Post Count!

1.  Dsell  19
2.  sudgy  14
3.  Voltaire  8
4.  Voltgloss  15
5.  mail-mi  21
6.  Eevee  4
7.  Jimmmmm  11
8.  Xeiron  3
9.  2.7....  2
10.  Chairs  25
11.  EFHW  16
12.  WalrusMcFishSr  4
13.  Robz888  3
14.  Twistedarcher  14
15.  liopoil  7
16.  Morgrim7  10
17.  mcmcsalot  5
18.  faust  13
19.  [redacted]  0

I do NOT subtract pre-game posts.

I would have a low post count if I were scum, or if I were town. So you can't say that my low post count is scummy.

And it begins. This will be a recurring motif as we proceed, as we'll see. Why so concerned about your perception, Robz? I can't imagine myself not thinking that this is an egregious scumslip.

This game is really entertaining. But of course I would say, that regardless of whether I was town or scum.

And so it continues. I imagine here that Robz is cracking under the emotional pressure of scuminess and has inadvertently repeated himself. I mean seriously, do we all have to go through this again??

...And that's it? Not much of a """contribution""" to hang your hat on Robz. And it's not even much of a hat to be honest, more like a bandana maybe.

Bearing in mind as well that Robz is extremely dangerous as scum. I mean, yeah, he's a good town player too, but as scum he will literally kill everybody D1. We can't take that risk people.

So it seems self-evident at this point that Robz is a dangerous Mafia criminal. Of course we know Robz is masquerading in the guise of a foreign meta. Which leads to the problem of how to actually vote for him. However it seems that Robz' last (extremely scummy) post has also caused several others to reach the same inevitable conclusion as I have, and it is their (extremely justifiable) opinion that he has been assigned sudgy's meta.

Therefore I reach the inescapable and incontrovertible conclusion, of vote: sudgy.

[Robz888]

I don't think you can or should read anything into my behavior so far. But I am going to vote for you.

vote: Voltgloss

[liopoil]

Vote: sudgy

[mcmcsalot]

unvote all

vote: sudgy

[ashersky]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.9:

ashersky (6): Dsell2, sudgy1, lio1, xeiron1, chairs1, EFHW2
Dsell (1): Dsell1
shraeye (2): EFHW1, mail-mi1
sparky5856 (5): xeiron1, faust1, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (1): faust2
Walrus (1): 2.72
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs2
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
sudgy (6): TA1, mail-mi2, sudgy2, walrus2, lio2, mcmc1
Voltgloss (1): Robz1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[xeiron]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

[sudgy]

Come on everybody, vote ash and sudgy and lynch them both at once!

[mail-mi]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

Hey, jack, get off sparky. We know he's not in the game. Trust me, I know what i'm talking about.

[xeiron]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

Hey, jack, get off sparky. We know he's not in the game. Trust me, I know what i'm talking about.

I don't see the difference, but if you insists.
unvote: sparky5856

[Dsell]

Fine, vote: sudgy

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: sudgy

[liopoil]

Someone hammer!!

[liopoil]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

Hey, jack, get off sparky. We know he's not in the game. Trust me, I know what i'm talking about.

I object to you not revealing your source of information

[mail-mi]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

Hey, jack, get off sparky. We know he's not in the game. Trust me, I know what i'm talking about.

I object to you not revealing your source of information

Um... the fact that we lynched sparky and he wasn't lynched?

[liopoil]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

Hey, jack, get off sparky. We know he's not in the game. Trust me, I know what i'm talking about.

I object to you not revealing your source of information

Um... the fact that we lynched sparky and he wasn't lynched?

thank you. Now, I continue to insist that everyone else who has said things without explaining why do so immediately.

[Twistedarcher]

I find myself agreeing with everything liopoil has said this game. What a guy.

[2.71828.....]

All, right.  I haven't said much at all, but it is night for Toy Story, so I will get some of my thoughts down.  First of all, this game is absolutely crazy, the probability that we get a correct lynch through D1 is basically zero.  With that in mind, what do we do?  Just pick a person, and whoever is the unfortunate player whose meta it is gets lynched?  Of course not!  We should analyze the situation carefully and then pick a random person and get them lynched, with about the same amount of confidence that we would have had lynching in the first 24 hours.  (poor sparky)

Ok.  To analyze the game there are a few things we must consider. 

Setup Elements:

1) There will be no mod lying whatsoever*. (See #2 role on role inclusion.)
2) Anything written by a mod in mod color and format is absolutely true.
3) All players have two active votes. They may not be on the same player.
4) All players will be assigned an f.ds meta. As an example, Archetype may be assigned the meta of EFHW. If the town wants to lynch Archetype during the day, votes must be for "EFHW" and not "Archetype." If scum wants to kill Archetype at night, the target given to the mods in the kill order must be "EFHW" and not "Archetype."
5) For any and all other "targeting," actual player names should be used.
6) Players may not claim their meta. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
7) Players may not claim their role. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
8) Players may not quote, paraphrase, or mention anything from any PM received from the mods at any time during the game, including in QTs. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
9) The only exception to #8 is alignment. Players may claim their alignment at any time.
10) Each day, the town may collectively decide to inspect the corpse of a dead player. The player being inspected must have been dead for at least "24 hours," which means 2 game phases, including the phase in which it died (day/night). This inspection will reveal the alignment of the corpse.
11) Metas, alignments, and roles will all be rolled and assigned at random, except for the ones that aren't.

Ok well that didn't help much. Or does it?  Basically, I see a lot of stuff we can't do.  We can't claim our meta.  We can't claim our role.  Even if we know a meta, we still don't know the role or alignment.  But we can claim alignment.  Perfect.  Something we can use.  Now, the best thing about that is that we can only have town or mafia.  Further, there should be a proportionate amount of mafia to town.  for example, about 1/3 of us could be mafia.  Or about 1/5.  or 13/19.  or 7/19.  But it will be some proportion.  That is an irrefutable fact.  And in a game with such uncertainty irrefutable facts are not to be taken lightly.  So I agree with Eevee that we should do an alignment claim.  Since that is the only thing we are able to talk about, lets talk about it.  Some of you I know will be claiming town, but I already have some strong scum reads on you, so don't think I won't call you out.  If you are scum, go ahead and claim.  We still need to figure out your meta, so it will be relatively safe for you.  But this way, we can at least know how many scum we are dealing with.  (unless it gets changed overnight) And scum will know if they are dealing with another scum team or not.  So it helps everyone.  In a game where knowledge is king, the only knowledge we can share is alignment, so lets do so.  The game is set up in such a way that the only thing we can talk about is if we are town or scum, so lets start talking and lets get a good lynch done.  We are running out of time.  Only 3 days left.

I will start.  I am town.  (see. That wasn't so hard)

[Jimmmmm]

I'm Town!

[Twistedarcher]

Everyone will claim town and we won't learn anything, I don't see the point?

[liopoil]

All, right.  I haven't said much at all, but it is night for Toy Story, so I will get some of my thoughts down.  First of all, this game is absolutely crazy, the probability that we get a correct lynch through D1 is basically zero.  With that in mind, what do we do?  Just pick a person, and whoever is the unfortunate player whose meta it is gets lynched?  Of course not!  We should analyze the situation carefully and then pick a random person and get them lynched, with about the same amount of confidence that we would have had lynching in the first 24 hours.  (poor sparky)

Ok.  To analyze the game there are a few things we must consider. 

Setup Elements:

1) There will be no mod lying whatsoever*. (See #2 role on role inclusion.)
2) Anything written by a mod in mod color and format is absolutely true.
3) All players have two active votes. They may not be on the same player.
4) All players will be assigned an f.ds meta. As an example, Archetype may be assigned the meta of EFHW. If the town wants to lynch Archetype during the day, votes must be for "EFHW" and not "Archetype." If scum wants to kill Archetype at night, the target given to the mods in the kill order must be "EFHW" and not "Archetype."
5) For any and all other "targeting," actual player names should be used.
6) Players may not claim their meta. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
7) Players may not claim their role. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
8) Players may not quote, paraphrase, or mention anything from any PM received from the mods at any time during the game, including in QTs. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
9) The only exception to #8 is alignment. Players may claim their alignment at any time.
10) Each day, the town may collectively decide to inspect the corpse of a dead player. The player being inspected must have been dead for at least "24 hours," which means 2 game phases, including the phase in which it died (day/night). This inspection will reveal the alignment of the corpse.
11) Metas, alignments, and roles will all be rolled and assigned at random, except for the ones that aren't.

Ok well that didn't help much. Or does it?  Basically, I see a lot of stuff we can't do.  We can't claim our meta.  We can't claim our role.  Even if we know a meta, we still don't know the role or alignment.  But we can claim alignment.  Perfect.  Something we can use.  Now, the best thing about that is that we can only have town or mafia.  Further, there should be a proportionate amount of mafia to town.  for example, about 1/3 of us could be mafia.  Or about 1/5.  or 13/19.  or 7/19.  But it will be some proportion.  That is an irrefutable fact.  And in a game with such uncertainty irrefutable facts are not to be taken lightly.  So I agree with Eevee that we should do an alignment claim.  Since that is the only thing we are able to talk about, lets talk about it.  Some of you I know will be claiming town, but I already have some strong scum reads on you, so don't think I won't call you out.  If you are scum, go ahead and claim.  We still need to figure out your meta, so it will be relatively safe for you.  But this way, we can at least know how many scum we are dealing with.  (unless it gets changed overnight) And scum will know if they are dealing with another scum team or not.  So it helps everyone.  In a game where knowledge is king, the only knowledge we can share is alignment, so lets do so.  The game is set up in such a way that the only thing we can talk about is if we are town or scum, so lets start talking and lets get a good lynch done.  We are running out of time.  Only 3 days left.

I will start.  I am town.  (see. That wasn't so hard)

or, instead of putting real effort in and typing up long posts, you could just vote for sudgy and be done with it

Also, do you have a hidden reason for wanting an alignment claim? reveal it at once!

[mail-mi]

I'm town.

Everyone will claim town and we won't learn anything, I don't see the point?

He's not claiming town.

unvote: shraeye
vote: yuma

[liopoil]

I'm town.

Everyone will claim town and we won't learn anything, I don't see the point?

He's not claiming town.

unvote: shraeye
vote: yuma

nooo, yuma is redacted, vote for sudgy!

[Twistedarcher]

Everyone already knows I'm town, why bother claiming what's already common knowledge?

[2.71828.....]

All, right.  I haven't said much at all, but it is night for Toy Story, so I will get some of my thoughts down.  First of all, this game is absolutely crazy, the probability that we get a correct lynch through D1 is basically zero.  With that in mind, what do we do?  Just pick a person, and whoever is the unfortunate player whose meta it is gets lynched?  Of course not!  We should analyze the situation carefully and then pick a random person and get them lynched, with about the same amount of confidence that we would have had lynching in the first 24 hours.  (poor sparky)

Ok.  To analyze the game there are a few things we must consider. 

Setup Elements:

1) There will be no mod lying whatsoever*. (See #2 role on role inclusion.)
2) Anything written by a mod in mod color and format is absolutely true.
3) All players have two active votes. They may not be on the same player.
4) All players will be assigned an f.ds meta. As an example, Archetype may be assigned the meta of EFHW. If the town wants to lynch Archetype during the day, votes must be for "EFHW" and not "Archetype." If scum wants to kill Archetype at night, the target given to the mods in the kill order must be "EFHW" and not "Archetype."
5) For any and all other "targeting," actual player names should be used.
6) Players may not claim their meta. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
7) Players may not claim their role. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
8) Players may not quote, paraphrase, or mention anything from any PM received from the mods at any time during the game, including in QTs. Doing so will result in an immediate modkill. No exceptions.
9) The only exception to #8 is alignment. Players may claim their alignment at any time.
10) Each day, the town may collectively decide to inspect the corpse of a dead player. The player being inspected must have been dead for at least "24 hours," which means 2 game phases, including the phase in which it died (day/night). This inspection will reveal the alignment of the corpse.
11) Metas, alignments, and roles will all be rolled and assigned at random, except for the ones that aren't.

Ok well that didn't help much. Or does it?  Basically, I see a lot of stuff we can't do.  We can't claim our meta.  We can't claim our role.  Even if we know a meta, we still don't know the role or alignment.  But we can claim alignment.  Perfect.  Something we can use.  Now, the best thing about that is that we can only have town or mafia.  Further, there should be a proportionate amount of mafia to town.  for example, about 1/3 of us could be mafia.  Or about 1/5.  or 13/19.  or 7/19.  But it will be some proportion.  That is an irrefutable fact.  And in a game with such uncertainty irrefutable facts are not to be taken lightly.  So I agree with Eevee that we should do an alignment claim.  Since that is the only thing we are able to talk about, lets talk about it.  Some of you I know will be claiming town, but I already have some strong scum reads on you, so don't think I won't call you out.  If you are scum, go ahead and claim.  We still need to figure out your meta, so it will be relatively safe for you.  But this way, we can at least know how many scum we are dealing with.  (unless it gets changed overnight) And scum will know if they are dealing with another scum team or not.  So it helps everyone.  In a game where knowledge is king, the only knowledge we can share is alignment, so lets do so.  The game is set up in such a way that the only thing we can talk about is if we are town or scum, so lets start talking and lets get a good lynch done.  We are running out of time.  Only 3 days left.

I will start.  I am town.  (see. That wasn't so hard)

or, instead of putting real effort in and typing up long posts, you could just vote for sudgy and be done with it

Also, do you have a hidden reason for wanting an alignment claim? reveal it at once!

EXACTLY.   you caught on.  EVERYONE has hidden reasons for EVERYTHING.  AND no one can say anything about them.  The game set-up tells us so.  So the only thing we can do from there is talk about our alignments.  I see you haven't claimed yours yet.  I understand.  Claiming scum is always tough.

[Dsell]

Ok, you got me, I am scum.







Just kidding, I'm town. Duh.

[sudgy]

The only benefit I could see from this is third parties claiming.  Ah well, I'm town.

[Twistedarcher]

The only benefit I could see from this is third parties claiming.  Ah well, I'm town.

Because third parties totally want to claim.

You guys have yet to come up with a good plan all game.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.10:

ashersky (6): Dsell1, sudgy1, lio1, xeiron1, chairs1, EFHW2
shraeye (1): EFHW1
sparky5856 (4): faust1, Voltaire1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (2): faust2, mail-mi2
Walrus (1): 2.72
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs2
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
sudgy (8): TA1, mail-mi1, sudgy2, walrus2, lio2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2
Voltgloss (1): Robz1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[2.71828.....]

Someone hammer!!

I would, but that seems like such a scummy thing to do.  And I have already told you I am town.  If you convince me its not scummy then I might

[2.71828.....]

Someone hammer!!

I would, but that seems like such a scummy thing to do.  And I have already told you I am town.  If you convince me its not scummy then I might

besides, who knows if something strange happens to the person who hammers D1.  With this setup, you never know.  I dont want to be turned into anything unnatural.

[liopoil]

Someone hammer!!

I would, but that seems like such a scummy thing to do.  And I have already told you I am town.  If you convince me its not scummy then I might

it's not scummy, this is a bastard game! plus, when he flips scum you'll be obvtown!

nah, that won't happen. If something bad happens to you, I promise to make sure I don't live past D2.

[liopoil]

I can unvote, you vote, then I hammer if you want.

Unvote: sudgy

[2.71828.....]

Well, putting someone at L-1 isn't scummy.  But everyone beware.  I am putting this person at L-1.  This is dangerous territory.  speak now or forever hold your peace. 



(looking around for people speaking up)



(don't see anyone)



vote: sudgy

[liopoil]

Vote: sudgy

[chairs]

By the power of Greyskull.. I AM THE POWER!!!!!!!!

vote: sudgy

[liopoil]

By the power of Greyskull.. I AM THE POWER!!!!!!!!

vote: sudgy

ninja'd

[2.71828.....]

By the power of Greyskull.. I AM THE POWER!!!!!!!!

vote: sudgy

ninja'd

11 seconds.  wow

[Dsell]

By the power of Greyskull.. I AM THE POWER!!!!!!!!

vote: sudgy

He-man mafia anyone?

[Voltaire]

vote: sudgy

[sudgy]

Hey, we're at L+2!

[Archetype]

Vote Count 1.11:

ashersky (5): Dsell1, sudgy1, lio1, xeiron1, EFHW2
shraeye (1): EFHW1
sparky5856 (3): faust1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (2): faust2, mail-mi2
Walrus (1): 2.72
chairs (1): chairs2
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
sudgy (8): TA1, mail-mi1, sudgy2, walrus2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.71, liopoil2, chairs1, Voltaire1
Voltgloss (1): Robz1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 1.11:

ashersky (5): Dsell1, sudgy1, lio1, xeiron1, EFHW2
shraeye (1): EFHW1
sparky5856 (3): faust1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (2): faust2, mail-mi2
Walrus (1): 2.72
chairs (1): chairs2
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
sudgy (8): TA1, mail-mi1, sudgy2, walrus2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.71, liopoil2, chairs1, Voltaire1
Voltgloss (1): Robz1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Archetype]

Aargh!

Vote Count 1.11:

ashersky (5): Dsell1, sudgy1, lio1, xeiron1, EFHW2
shraeye (1): EFHW1
sparky5856 (3): faust1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (2): faust2, mail-mi2
Walrus (1): 2.72
chairs (1): chairs2
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
sudgy (8): TA1, mail-mi1, sudgy2, walrus2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.71, liopoil2, chairs1, Voltaire1
Voltgloss (1): Robz1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Dsell]

Woah interesting. Vote2: Voltaire

[Archetype]

All votes on Sudgy have been reset.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 1.12:

ashersky (5): Dsell1, sudgy1, lio1, xeiron1, EFHW2
shraeye (1): EFHW1
sparky5856 (3): faust1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (2): faust2, mail-mi2
Walrus (1): 2.72
chairs (1): chairs2
insomniac (1): Voltaire2
Voltgloss (1): Robz1

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Dsell]

All votes on Sudgy have been reset.

Wait this didn't happen with sparky. Lynchproof?

[liopoil]

Vote: Sudgy

[Archetype]

All votes on Sudgy have been reset.

Wait this didn't happen with sparky. Lynchproof?

I prefer to reset the votes.

[Twistedarcher]

Bastard is fun.

[Morgrim7]

I wanted to hammer

[mail-mi]

...Are we even allowed to lynch?

Whatevs. vote: sudgy

[sudgy]

Vote: sudgy

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.11:

ashersky (5): Dsell1, sudgy1, lio1, xeiron1, EFHW2
shraeye (1): EFHW1
sparky5856 (3): faust1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (2): faust2, mail-mi2
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
insomniac (1): Voltaire1
sudgy (11): TA1, mail-mi1, sudgy2, walrus2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.72, liopoil2, chairs2, Voltaire2
Voltgloss (1): Robz1
Voltaire (1): Dsell2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[ashersky]

Archetype's vote count has been re-reset.  My latest, above, is correct.

[Twistedarcher]

I kinda don't get what the point is, we got to 9 votes on someone who's playing, and that's not enough. Just tell me who to vote for and I'll do that.

[ashersky]

4) All players will be assigned an f.ds meta. As an example, Archetype may be assigned the meta of EFHW. If the town wants to lynch Archetype during the day, votes must be for "EFHW" and not "Archetype." If scum wants to kill Archetype at night, the target given to the mods in the kill order must be "EFHW" and not "Archetype."

[Voltaire]

I guess sudgy isn't a real meta then. I guess we just need to vote for metas that are almost certainly here then otherwise we will never lynch.

vote: yuma
vote: Voltgloss

[mail-mi]

4) All players will be assigned an f.ds meta. As an example, Archetype may be assigned the meta of EFHW. If the town wants to lynch Archetype during the day, votes must be for "EFHW" and not "Archetype." If scum wants to kill Archetype at night, the target given to the mods in the kill order must be "EFHW" and not "Archetype."

Does that mean sudgy's not in the game?

[ashersky]

If a meta reaches (or surpasses) the lynch number for the day and nothing happens, that meta is not in the game.

[liopoil]

Vote: Voltgloss
Vote: Ashersky

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.12:

ashersky (5): Dsell1, sudgy1, xeiron1, EFHW2, liopoil2
shraeye (1): EFHW1
sparky5856 (3): faust1, Jimmmmm1, walrus1
yuma (3): faust2, mail-mi2, Voltaire1
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
sudgy (9): TA1, mail-mi1, sudgy2, walrus2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.72, chairs2
Voltgloss (3): Robz1, Voltaire2, liopoil1
Voltaire (1): Dsell2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Do we seriously all have to go through this again?

vote: ashersky for not including all the appropriate metas
vote: yuma for probably being in league with ash
FoS: anybody without a cartoonishly obvious meta

[EFHW]

unvote: shraeye

vote: Voltgloss

[Morgrim7]

We tried Morgrim7 yet?  Vote: Morgrim

[liopoil]

Vote: Morgrim7

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.13:

ashersky (6): Dsell1, sudgy1, xeiron1, EFHW1, liopoil1, walrus1
sparky5856 (2): faust1, Jimmmmm1
yuma (4): faust2, mail-mi2, Voltaire1, walrus2
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
sudgy (8): TA1, mail-mi1, sudgy2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.72, chairs2
Voltgloss (3): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW2
Voltaire (1): Dsell2
Morgrim7 (2): Morgrim1, liopoil2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[EFHW]

unvote: Ashersky
vote: Morgrim7

[mail-mi]

The painfully obvious ones are probably town (because they're easier to lynch, duh)

vote: shraeye
vote: mail-mi

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.14:

ashersky (5): Dsell1, sudgy1, xeiron1, liopoil1, walrus1
sparky5856 (2): faust1, Jimmmmm1
yuma (3): faust2, Voltaire1, walrus2
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
sudgy (7): TA1 sudgy2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.72, chairs2
Voltgloss (3): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW1
Voltaire (1): Dsell2
Morgrim7 (3): Morgrim1, liopoil2, EFHW2
shraeye (1): mail-mi1
mail-mi (1): mail-mi2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[2.71828.....]

Ok.  The sudgy meta doesn't exist.  The sparky meta doesn't exist.  We will eventually get someone that does.  2 down, 2360 to go.  That being said, I am happy with
vote: Morgrim7

oh and also conspiracy theory vote: () | (_) ^/

[Dsell]

I'M SO SILLY LOOK AT MY SILLINESS

[Dsell]

Rvs vote: Robz

Finger of silliness: 2.7 for taking the game too seriously

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.15:

ashersky (4): sudgy1, xeiron1, liopoil1, walrus1
sparky5856 (2): faust1, Jimmmmm1
yuma (3): faust2, Voltaire1, walrus2
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
sudgy (7): TA1 sudgy2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.72, chairs2
Voltgloss (3): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW1
Voltaire (1): Dsell1
Morgrim7 (3): Morgrim1, liopoil2, EFHW2
shraeye (1): mail-mi1
mail-mi (1): mail-mi2
Robz888 (1): Dsell2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Robz888]

I'M SO SILLY LOOK AT MY SILLINESS

Vote: Morgrim ??

[Dsell]

I'M SO SILLY LOOK AT MY SILLINESS

Vote: Morgrim ??

For reference: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9752.msg315209#msg315209

[faust]

We're doing alignment claims? That's great, I'm scum.

I think it would have been nice if the mods had agreed how to handle the lynch of a meta not in the game pre-game. The way it is now, the vote counts are just confusing.

Vote: Morgrim
Vote: mail-mi

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.16:

ashersky (4): sudgy1, xeiron1, liopoil1, walrus1
sparky5856 (1): Jimmmmm1
yuma (2): Voltaire1, walrus2
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
sudgy (7): TA1, sudgy2, mcmc1, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.72, chairs2
Voltgloss (3): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW1
Voltaire (1): Dsell1
Morgrim7 (5): Morgrim1, liopoil2, EFHW2, Robz2, faust1
shraeye (1): mail-mi1
mail-mi (2): mail-mi2, faust2
Robz888 (1): Dsell2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[ashersky]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

Sorry, I can't tell you.

You guys are making a mistake. By wanting to lynch the well-known metas now, you're making it harder to find scum in the later stages of the game, when it is more important. You should follow my plan.

Vote: ashersky

[mcmcsalot]

unvote all

Vote: ashersky
Vote morgrim

Ugh these metas are crazy

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.17:

ashersky (5): sudgy1, xeiron1, liopoil1, walrus1, mcmc1
sparky5856 (1): Jimmmmm1
yuma (2): Voltaire1, walrus2
chairs (2): 2.71, chairs1
sudgy (6): TA1, sudgy2, Dsell2, Jimmmmm2, 2.72, chairs2
Voltgloss (3): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW1
Voltaire (1): Dsell1
Morgrim7 (6): Morgrim1, liopoil2, EFHW2, Robz2, faust1, mcmc2
shraeye (1): mail-mi1
mail-mi (2): mail-mi2, faust2
Robz888 (1): Dsell2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[2.71828.....]

I should make clear that I am not the mod.

Vote: ashersky

If you are not the mod, then who are you really?

Sorry, I can't tell you.

You guys are making a mistake. By wanting to lynch the well-known metas now, you're making it harder to find scum in the later stages of the game, when it is more important. You should follow my plan.

Vote: ashersky

Bastard game=bastard mod=don'tfollowthebastardmod'splan

We're doing alignment claims? That's great, I'm scum.

I think it would have been nice if the mods had agreed how to handle the lynch of a meta not in the game pre-game. The way it is now, the vote counts are just confusing.

Vote: Morgrim
Vote: mail-mi

YES! SCUM!

unvote: () | (_) ^/
vote: faust

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: faust

[mcmcsalot]

Very interesting game, we are so separated from actually knowing how to vote someone out mafia claiming doesn't instantly kill them.

[2.71828.....]

Very interesting game, we are so separated from actually knowing how to vote someone out mafia claiming doesn't instantly kill them.

Yeah, but even if faust isnt scum, but he himself (his own person) is obviously scummy enough to claim scum, which means whoever is assigned his meta must definitely be scum because of this scummy behavior.

[faust]

Very interesting game, we are so separated from actually knowing how to vote someone out mafia claiming doesn't instantly kill them.

Yeah, but even if faust isnt scum, but he himself (his own person) is obviously scummy enough to claim scum, which means whoever is assigned his meta must definitely be scum because of this scummy behavior.

[2.71828.....]

Very interesting game, we are so separated from actually knowing how to vote someone out mafia claiming doesn't instantly kill them.

Yeah, but even if faust isnt scum, but he himself (his own person) is obviously scummy enough to claim scum, which means whoever is assigned his meta must definitely be scum because of this scummy behavior.

Its not supposed to make sense.  It is supposed to be a plan.  Any real plan in this game doesn't make any sense, so we need to follow a few fake plans to see if they work.  (other than the mod's plan-I refuse to accept that plan) The Sparky lynch and the Sudgy lynch both didn't work.  We have a choice between Morgrim7 and Faust for this next one.  Choose wisely. 

[Dsell]

When you put it that way...I am ALL ABOUT FAKE PLANS

[chairs]

By the power of Greyskull.. I AM THE POWER!!!!!!!!

vote: sudgy

ninja'd

I WANTED TO HAMMER!

Guess it's not a meta in the game, though?

vote: ashersky
vote: yuma

[faust]

Vote: Jimmmmm

[faust]

Very interesting game, we are so separated from actually knowing how to vote someone out mafia claiming doesn't instantly kill them.

Hey, I didn't claim mafia, I claimed scum! Can't you read?

[faust]

Anyone up for playing "follow the scum"?

[2.71828.....]

Anyone up for playing "follow the scum"?

I wanted to finish my game of "lynch the scum" (you know, whoever has the meta of the person claiming scum) before I sign up to play any other games.....But wait! we have two votes, and "follow the scum" sounds like such a fun game.  so
unvote: morgrim7
vote: Jimmmmm

[Dsell]

Maybe that's our problem!

We always try to lynch the scum...

When really we should be following them! Yay!

Unvote: Voltaire

Vote: Voltgloss (chickengloss)

[2.71828.....]

Maybe that's our problem!

We always try to lynch the scum...

When really we should be following them! Yay!

Unvote: Voltaire

Vote: Voltgloss (chickengloss)

To bring it all together consider the following quote/prophecy from A Clash of Kings (book 2 of the Song of Ice and Fire popularized by HBO's Game of Thrones series), chapter 40 when Quaithe (a shadowbinder from Asshai) tells Daenerys that

To go north, you must go south. To reach the west, you must go east. To go forward you must go back, and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow.

We need to follow that same advice.  Instead of following an IC (which we don't have), we follow someone who is scum (or claims scum).  Instead of carrying out real plans, we execute fake ones.

[Twistedarcher]

Maybe that's our problem!

We always try to lynch the scum...

When really we should be following them! Yay!

Unvote: Voltaire

Vote: Voltgloss (chickengloss)

To bring it all together consider the following quote/prophecy from A Clash of Kings (book 2 of the Song of Ice and Fire popularized by HBO's Game of Thrones series), chapter 40 when Quaithe (a shadowbinder from Asshai) tells Daenerys that

To go north, you must go south. To reach the west, you must go east. To go forward you must go back, and to touch the light you must pass beneath the shadow.

We need to follow that same advice.  Instead of following an IC (which we don't have), we follow someone who is scum (or claims scum).  Instead of carrying out real plans, we execute fake ones.

*clears throat*

[EFHW]

Vote: faust

Vote: Jimmmmm

What's the point?  You could be trying to lynch your best friend!

[sudgy]

Unvote: sudgy and Vote: Morgrim7

I just finally realized a way to scumhunt.  Scum don't need to worry about being outed as long as their meta isn't known.  So, they will all choose another meta and pretend to be it so nobody notices them.  I am pretty certain Robz is scum because of this, and we need to find less subtle hints in his posts as to who he is.

[Jimmmmm]

Anyone up for playing "follow the scum"?

I wanted to finish my game of "lynch the scum" (you know, whoever has the meta of the person claiming scum) before I sign up to play any other games.....But wait! we have two votes, and "follow the scum" sounds like such a fun game.  so
unvote: morgrim7
vote: Jimmmmm

Vote: Jimmmmm because fuck that guy.

[Voltaire]

Unvote: sudgy and Vote: Morgrim7

I just finally realized a way to scumhunt.  Scum don't need to worry about being outed as long as their meta isn't known.  So, they will all choose another meta and pretend to be it so nobody notices them.  I am pretty certain Robz is scum because of this, and we need to find less subtle hints in his posts as to who he is.

That doesn't work. Anybody doing that will just be modkilled for not following their post restrictions.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.18:

ashersky (6): sudgy1, xeiron1, liopoil1, walrus1, mcmc1, chairs1
yuma (3): Voltaire1, walrus2, chairs2
sudgy (2): TA1, Dsell1
Voltgloss (4): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW1, Dsell2
Morgrim7 (6): Morgrim1, liopoil2, EFHW2, Robz2, mcmc2, sudgy2
shraeye (1): mail-mi1
mail-mi (2): mail-mi2, faust1
Robz888 (1): Dsell2
faust (2): 2.71, Jimmmmm1
Jimmmmm (3): faust2, 2.72, Jimmmmm2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[sudgy]

Unvote: sudgy and Vote: Morgrim7

I just finally realized a way to scumhunt.  Scum don't need to worry about being outed as long as their meta isn't known.  So, they will all choose another meta and pretend to be it so nobody notices them.  I am pretty certain Robz is scum because of this, and we need to find less subtle hints in his posts as to who he is.

That doesn't work. Anybody doing that will just be modkilled for not following their post restrictions.

They still have their post restrictions, but they also impose one on themselves that is more obvious than their real one.  I think somewhere in Robz's posts is his true meta.

[Morgrim7]

Phone posting...lol jk

Why have we not killed me yet?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

unvote: yuma
vote: Morgrim7 for hating Star Wars

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.19:

ashersky (6): sudgy1, xeiron1, liopoil1, walrus1, mcmc1, chairs1
yuma (2): Voltaire1, chairs2
sudgy (2): TA1, Dsell1
Voltgloss (4): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW1, Dsell2
Morgrim7 (7): Morgrim1, liopoil2, EFHW2, Robz2, mcmc2, sudgy2, walrus2
shraeye (1): mail-mi1
mail-mi (2): mail-mi2, faust1
Robz888 (1): Dsell2
faust (2): 2.71, Jimmmmm1
Jimmmmm (3): faust2, 2.72, Jimmmmm2

On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

[Robz888]

Vote: Morgrim

[faust]

Now I can do the scummy thing!

Vote: Morgrim

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Morgrim

[ashersky]

Final Day 1 Vote Count:

ashersky (6): sudgy1, xeiron1, liopoil1, walrus1, mcmc1, chairs1
yuma (2): Voltaire1, chairs2
sudgy (2): TA1, Dsell1
Voltgloss (4): Robz1, Voltaire2, EFHW1, Dsell2
Morgrim7 (9): Morgrim1, liopoil2, EFHW2, Robz2, mcmc2, sudgy2, walrus2, faust2, Jimmmmm2
shraeye (1): mail-mi1
mail-mi (1): mail-mi2
faust (1): 2.71
Jimmmmm (3): faust1, 2.72, Jimmmmm1

On Day 1, it took 9 to lynch.

Enjoy a bit of twilight.

[ashersky]

chairs, the Mafia Suicidal Goon, has been lynched!  He was channeling the spirit of Morgrim7.

Night 1 has begun. 

It will last 48 hours, or as long as I feel like.  Get me your night actions by PM, QT, whatever.  I expect D2 to be even funnier than D1!

[ashersky]

Day 2 will start sometime in the next 18 hours.  Be sure to get your kill orders and whatnot set.


On metas and posting restrictions.  I will be stricter on D2.  Go re-read your PMs and do your best.

[ashersky]

xeiron, the Mafia Janitor, has been killed!  It looks like he was destroyed by magic!  He was channeling the spirit of Voltgloss.


Day 2 has begun.  Before posting in this thread, check your PMs.  If you need to respond to me, respond BEFORE posting in this thread.

Also, re-read your Role PMs to remind yourself of posting restrictions.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.0:

On Day 2, it takes 8 to lynch.

[ashersky]

Oh, if you don't have a PM from me, you can just start posting.

[Twistedarcher]

Alright.

The following people are off the table for today:

EFHW, Dsell, Robz, Walrus, Jimmmm.

[Twistedarcher]

Before posting, please post your top three highest scumreads.

[mail-mi]

Alright.

The following people are off the table for today:

EFHW, Dsell, Robz, Walrus, Jimmmm.

Their metas, or their persons? Why? You gotta tell us that.

Before posting, please post your top three highest scumreads.

What if I don't wanna, Jack?

[Voltaire]

Alright.

The following people are off the table for today:

EFHW, Dsell, Robz, Walrus, Jimmmm.

I don't think that's a good idea. It's incredibly obvious that there is at least three scum in that group.

[EFHW]

Alright.

The following people are off the table for today:

EFHW, Dsell, Robz, Walrus, Jimmmm.

I don't think that's a good idea. It's incredibly obvious that there is at least three scum in that group.

No more Mr. Nice Noob!   

Actually, I think it's a fine idea!

[EFHW]

Amazing we are doing better in this bastard game than town ever does in normal mafia games!  Unless we have a very high scum density ...

[Voltaire]

EFHW has been focused on me all day. I think she's clearly trying to push a mislynch. vote: Walrus.

[Twistedarcher]

Alright.

The following people are off the table for today:

EFHW, Dsell, Robz, Walrus, Jimmmm.

Their metas, or their persons? Why? You gotta tell us that.

Before posting, please post your top three highest scumreads.

What if I don't wanna, Jack?

Tough.

I don't care if you like what I'm doing or not. Fact is, it WILL help town, and you all need to suck it up and listen to me.

[Robz888]

MOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRGRIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

[ashersky]

Oh no!  Robz888, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber, has detonated his bomb!  He was channeling the spirit of shraeye.  He's taken Morgrim, the redacted role with him!  Morgrim was channeling the spirit of mail-mi.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.1:

Walrus (1): Voltaire1

On Day 2, with 14 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

MOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRGRIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

[ashersky]

Oh no!  WalrusMcFishSr, the Werewolf Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber, has detonated his bomb!  He was channeling the spirit of Voltaire.  He's taken Twistedarcher, the Vanilla Townie with him!  Twistedarcher was channeling the spirit of Galzria.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.2:

Walrus (1): Voltaire1

On Day 2, with 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[Dsell]

This is weird.










I love it.

[sudgy]

Everybody, don't panic!  I think Jimmmmm is town.

Before posting, please post your top three highest scumreads.

How do we do this before posting.....?  We have to post to do it.

[faust]

Vote Count 2.2:

Walrus (1): Voltaire1

On Day 2, with 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

It would be really helpful to see who is still alive in these vote counts.

[faust]

Everybody, don't panic!  I think Jimmmmm is town.

Before posting, please post your top three highest scumreads.

How do we do this before posting.....?  We have to post to do it.

Lying scum!

Vote: Jimmmmm

[Eevee]

im sorry for all this lurking, I don't mean to!

I have absolutely no idea what's going on, though.

[2.71828.....]

im sorry for all this lurking, I don't mean to!

I have absolutely no idea what's going on, though.

I don't think anyone has any clue about what is going on.  Except the suicide bombers seemed pretty confident.

[2.71828.....]

well this day started with a boom

[Jimmmmm]

Okay, plan part 2. I need three people to each name five roles and/or powers listed on the mafiascum wiki. You may or may not have one of these roles.

It's not like people are actually going to do it.

[Voltaire]

I told you there were at least two factions. I would say this makes TA scummy but now he's dead town.

[2.71828.....]

Players:
1.  Dsell
2.  sudgy
3.  Voltaire
4.  Voltgloss
5.  mail-mi
6.  Eevee
7.  Jimmmmm
8.  xeiron - Voltgloss, the Mafia Janitor - Destroyed by magic on Night 1
9.  2.7....
10.  Chairs - Morgrim7, the Mafia Suicidal Goon - Lynched Day 1
11.  EFHW
12.  WalrusMcFishSr - Voltaire, the Werewolf Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber - Self-detonated Day 2
13.  Robz888 - shraeye, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber - Self-detonated Day 2
14.  Twistedarcher - Galzria, the Vanilla Townie - Bombed by WalrusMcFishSr D2
15.  liopoil
16.  Morgrim7 - mail-mi, the redacted role - Bombed by Robz888 D2
17.  mcmcsalot
18.  faust

All right, so D2 starts and this is what we have. 

12 alive people 1.  Dsell 2.  sudgy 3.  Voltaire 4.  Voltgloss 5.  mail-mi 6.  Eevee 7.  Jimmmmm 8. 9.  2.7.... 10. 11.  EFHW 12. 13. 14. 15.  liopoil 16. 17.  mcmcsalot 18.  faust

14 player metas still alive 1.  Dsell 2.  sudgy 3. 4. 5. 6.  Eevee 7.  Jimmmmm 8.  xeiron 9.  2.7.... 10.  Chairs 11.  EFHW 12.  WalrusMcFishSr 13.  Robz888 14.  Twistedarcher 15.  liopoil 16. 17.  mcmcsalot 18.  faust

dead non-player metas shraeye Galzria

So the question in my mind is how many more non-player metas are out there?  Being relatively new, I think it is kind of pointless to vote for me, since it is clear Ash used more well-known metas.  So who do we have out there that could possibly be used?  Look at the dead metas: Voltgloss, Morgrim7, shraeye, Galzria, Voltaire, mail-mi.

So the chance that a well-known meta will go through for a lynch: 78.3%
I come to this conclusion with conclusive evidence based on a wide variety of things.
1) Let's say there are 23 veteran metas that Ash chose from
2) There are 18 players that he had to choose metas for.
3) 18/23 is about 78.3%

So by the all the laws of averages that I know, this is irrefutable proof that we will most likely get a lynch from voting well-known players.  Now which one.  My formula from D1 was almost right (I landed on Walrus who was a suicide bomber-I mean, had we lynched him it would have saved a life) so with just a little bit of change I think I can come up with a fool-proof lynch.

((# of players)-(# of dead players)+(number of total posts))/(# of posts by Ashersky) +/- 2.71828=player we lynch.

so (18+6+535)/(74)=7.55405405
+2.718= about 10 so vote: chairs
-2.718= about 5 so vote: jotheonah (modded the 5th BM game)

[faust]

So TA was a VT, huh? I guess there actually is town in this setup...

[Jimmmmm]

So TA was a VT, huh? I guess there actually is town in this setup...

SCUUUUUUMSLIIIIIIIIP!

[Voltaire]

So TA was a VT, huh? I guess there actually is town in this setup...

SCUUUUUUMSLIIIIIIIIP!

I don't think it counts as a slip when it's claimed!

[2.71828.....]

We're doing alignment claims? That's great, I'm scum.

Vote: Morgrim
Vote: mail-mi

And look! he must have had special scummy knowledge to put down his first vote morgrim, and then his second vote for morgrim's meta

[EFHW]

Ok, here are all faust's posts.  Can anyone id the meta?

Wooo, I'm first! Vote: yuma Vote: mail-mi

Vote Count 1.1:
yuma (1): faust
mail-mi (1): faust
Voters: Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, xeiron, 2.7, chairs, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot, faust, [redacted]
On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

Shouldn't the vote counts somehow specify which of the votes is the first and which the second? That doesn't get clear from this.

Vote Count 1.2:
yuma (1): faust1
mail-mi (1): faust2
chairs (1): chairs1
ashersky (1): chairs2
Dsell (1): Dsell1
Voters: Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, xeiron, 2.7, chairs, EFHW, WalrusMcFishSr, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot, faust, [redacted]
On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

I think that, for clarity's sake, the vote counts should include who is not voting, and who is only voting with one vote. So I suggest adding the following:
Not voting: Dsell1, sudgy1, sudgy2, Voltaire1, Voltaire2, Voltgloss1, Voltgloss2, mail-mi1, mail-mi2, Eevee1, Eevee2, Jimmmmm1, Jimmmmm2, xeiron1, xeiron2, 2.71, 2.72, EFHW1, EFHW2, WalrusMcFishSr1, WalrusMcFishSr2, Robz8881, Robz8882, Twistedarcher1, Twistedarcher2, liopoil1, liopoil2, Morgrim71, Morgrim72, mcmcsalot1, mcmcsalot2, [redacted]1, [redacted]2

There's also a slight problem with the 1,2-notation when it comes to 2.7...

All of you should know that I will have an extended VLA tomorrow morning (forum time) due to university stuff that I need to take care of.

Yes, Really.  I think everyone should sheep me.

Your wish is my command!  Vote: sparky5856 even though I've never met the guy.

Met meaning talked to directly on the forums, or met in person?

I have done neither, and what I meant is up to you to decide.

Vote Count 1.3:
mail-mi (1): faust1
ashersky (1): walrus1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, Morgrim2
shraeye (2): walrus2, mail-mi1
Morgrim7 (1): Voltaire1
sparky5856 (3): xeiron1, faust2, mail-mi2
Voltgloss (2): chairs1, Morgrim1
EFHW (1): chairs2
On Day 1, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends on November 20 at 4:18 p.m.

This is even worse than last time, now it doesn't even show the voters!

Important thing to note:
Normally, we don't want to bring someone up to L-1 incase someone hammers. In this case, since we all have two votes, we cannot bring anyone up to L-2, incase someone hammers.
Do not bring someone up to L-2 until I say it's okay. Anyone who doesn't follow this is announcing that they are scum.

I will not follow this.

Doesn't matter if you like it or not. It's better for town, and you know I have good intentions.

You're clearly scum for not voting for me.

Vote: Twistedarcher

Unvote: Twistedarcher  Vote: yuma

I support Voltaire's plan. Everyone should remember not to include their own meta when making the list though; this could result in a modkill.

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan. I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

How are you even going to policy vote without having a list of metas telling you who you need to vote for?

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night actions a lot easier.

I disagree with this plan. I will policy vote anyone who attempts to make a list of all metas.

But scum can make a list on their own together at night anyway. I think that this should help even the playing field.
Also I like the sparky idea. vote: sparky

That's L-3! Can we get 3 more people on this?

ok, I'll sheep vote: Sparky

L-1! Sparky, if you're out there, do you want to claim? Oh wait, right... this will get you modkilled. Someone want to hammer?

We need another vote count with all that's happening. preferably one that is actually accurate and shows all the relevant information.

If Insomniacs meta is scum, he is bussing today. Got that?

Except he can't bus because he doesn't know the metas of his scum partners.

yea I like the list thing, vote: mcmcsalot vote: robz888 should we be voting random people or people not voted in vote counts already?

You should vote for sparky.  PPE: what mail-mi said.

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

Blah blah blah there are lots of good reasons to support this list for town and none against it, but I don't support it.

We're doing alignment claims? That's great, I'm scum.  I think it would have been nice if the mods had agreed how to handle the lynch of a meta not in the game pre-game. The way it is now, the vote counts are just confusing.  Vote: Morgrim  Vote: mail-mi

Very interesting game, we are so separated from actually knowing how to vote someone out mafia claiming doesn't instantly kill them.

Yeah, but even if faust isnt scum, but he himself (his own person) is obviously scummy enough to claim scum, which means whoever is assigned his meta must definitely be scum because of this scummy behavior.

Vote: Jimmmmm

Very interesting game, we are so separated from actually knowing how to vote someone out mafia claiming doesn't instantly kill them.

Hey, I didn't claim mafia, I claimed scum! Can't you read?

Anyone up for playing "follow the scum"?

Now I can do the scummy thing! Vote: Morgrim

Vote Count 2.2:]
Walrus (1): Voltaire1
On Day 2, with 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

It would be really helpful to see who is still alive in these vote counts.

[ashersky]

Post more, people.

[ashersky]

And don't forget Rule #10.

[Voltaire]

Ok, here are all faust's posts.  Can anyone id the meta?

It's extremely difficult for me to tell. Looking at 2.7's list and taking out the ones I have figured out I would guess he could be somewhere in Dsell, Jimmmmm, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, or faust. I think Robz and lio are the most likely.

huge town points to EFHW for trying to figure out who the claimed scum is. unvote: Walrus. I think I should vote: Robz and vote: liopoil then.

[Dsell]

I'm down with a Vote: Dsell. Sure thing.

[Dsell]

Also! I noticed something reading old threads, it's a quote (from me, incidentally) about how the biggest piece of Insomniac's meta is that he'll will bus anyone at any time, including scumbuddies, including day one, and he totally loves it. So I could definitely see scum being in this game with Insomniac's meta and being forced to bus a partner day one. The only hitch is that they couldn't know what their partner's meta is, so maybe they had to vote for the meta of their partner, see what I mean? So like Morgrim and Shraeye are scumbuddies. Shraeye has Insomniac's meta, so he has to vote for Morgrim (or another scumbuddy) day one. Except he's actually voting for their meta, which could be on either a townie or mafia.

Does that make any sense?

Anyway, vote: Insomniac.

[mcmcsalot]

Really crazy stuff going down, this is the kind of bm game I like. Once I'm home I'll give this a reread and post some thoughts.

[EFHW]

Ok, here are all faust's posts.  Can anyone id the meta?

It's extremely difficult for me to tell. Looking at 2.7's list and taking out the ones I have figured out I would guess he could be somewhere in Dsell, Jimmmmm, Robz888, Twistedarcher, liopoil, or faust. I think Robz and lio are the most likely.

huge town points to EFHW for trying to figure out who the claimed scum is. unvote: Walrus. I think I should vote: Robz and vote: liopoil then.

I was actually thinking the "blah, blah, blah" could be you!  Do you complain a lot about vote counts?  If not, who does?

[Voltaire]

I was actually thinking the "blah, blah, blah" could be you!  Do you complain a lot about vote counts?  If not, who does?

I'm dead already!

[EFHW]

I guess we should inspect chairs's corpse, since ashersky is reminding us of rule #10,

request inspect chairs's corpse

[EFHW]

I was actually thinking the "blah, blah, blah" could be you!  Do you complain a lot about vote counts?  If not, who does?

I'm dead already!

so I see!  maybe it was a smoke screen.  What about the complaining?  He does it so much in this game, it must be a meta.

[sudgy]

EFHW's idea is good about faust, so I'll Vote: Robz888 and Vote: liopoil.

Okay, plan part 2. I need three people to each name five roles and/or powers listed on the mafiascum wiki. You may or may not have one of these roles.

It's not like people are actually going to do it.

Mafia Goon, Vanilla Townie, Serial Killer, Mafia Strongman, Town Miller.

So TA was a VT, huh? I guess there actually is town in this setup...

SCUUUUUUMSLIIIIIIIIP!

I agree, since he also claimed scum.

[sudgy]

Also, look at rule 10.  I don't think these flips are correct.

[liopoil]

Still not happy with all the people holding back info. c'mon guys, this is ridiculous.

Vote: Liopoil

[mail-mi]

I guess we should inspect chairs's corpse, since ashersky is reminding us of rule #10,

request inspect chairs's corpse

This.

[sudgy]

How do we decide who to inspect?

[Dsell]

We can only actually inspect chairs, because he's been dead for 2 game periods.

[ashersky]

How do we decide who to inspect?

Vote on it.  I'll accept 4 votes for a dead body as enough to provide the inspection.

[Voltaire]

How do we decide who to inspect?

Vote on it.  I'll accept 4 votes for a dead body as enough to provide the inspection.

inspect chairs

[Dsell]

Inspect chairs.

Hey what about insomniac guys??

Noooobody?

Aaaanybody?

[mail-mi]

vote: insom

Inspect chairs

[sudgy]

inspect chairs

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.2:

Jimmmmm (1): faust1
chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (2): Voltaire1, sudgy1
liopoil (3): Voltaire2, sudgy2, liopoil
Dsell (1): Dsell1
insom (2): Dsell2, mail-mi1

Inspect the corpse of chairs (4): EFHW, Voltaire, Dsell, mail-mi


The players in BM14 collected decide to poke around a dead body together.  Ick.

Checking out the now cold body of chairs, they find that he was mafia-aligned!

On Day 2, with 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[Eevee]

vote: insomniac

I've made an observation: there is a lot if scum in this game. at least it appears that way.

faust is certainly one of them, there is no reason for town to ever do what he has been doing. he probably thinks his meta is unguessable though, or has a restriction. weird that knowing someone is scum is so unhelpful. we should give analyzing his votes extra weight, like efhw astutely has.

[mcmcsalot]

vote: insomniac

I've made an observation: there is a lot if scum in this game. at least it appears that way.

faust is certainly one of them, there is no reason for town to ever do what he has been doing. he probably thinks his meta is unguessable though, or has a restriction. weird that knowing someone is scum is so unhelpful. we should give analyzing his votes extra weight, like efhw astutely has.

Really? Has faust claimed scum any more than that one time?

[EFHW]

check my compendium of all his votes. 

Do you recognize the "complain about the votecount" meta?

[Dsell]

check my compendium of all his votes. 

Do you recognize the "complain about the votecount" meta?

I don't.

It's possible it's subtler and hasn't come up yet.

[Archetype]

Nobody believe ashersky, he is a troll mod. I am the real mod, who knows the ways of Mafia modology, Mafiology! I see you have killed quite a few mafia members, maybe town is the real mafia and mafia is the real town, who knows its a bastard game! Lots of metas in play, I think if you believe me you should do as I have done, wouldn't want any accidents!

[Morgrim7]

Hah! Robz thought he could kill me. Puny attempt. I cannot be killed by your disgusting mortal weapons. I'm still alive, folks.
Resurrect: Morgrim

[ashersky]

Morgrim7, the redacted role, is alive again!  He is still channeling the spirit of mail-mi.

[liopoil]

Vote: insomniac

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.3:

Jimmmmm (1): faust1
chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (2): Voltaire1, sudgy1
liopoil (3): Voltaire2, sudgy2, liopoil1
Dsell (1): Dsell1
insom (4): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, liopoil2

On Day 2, with 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[sudgy]

Does anybody know Archetype's meta?  I want to vote for him.

[mail-mi]

Does anybody know Archetype's meta?  I want to vote for him.

...arche's a mod, smartypants.

[sudgy]

Vote: the mod

[faust]

Hey, Morgrim, stay dead!

Vote: mail-mi

And e: Nice math. I think you're dangerous.

Vote: theorel

[ashersky]

I don't know what Archetype (or whoever is posting via Archetype) is up to, be careful, town!

Also, complaining about vote counts is clearly a Jimmmmm trait.

Vote: ashersky

[EFHW]

are you getting all that self-voting out of your system?

[EFHW]

So no one recognizes a meta in faust's posts?  If he followed the rules, then he did something for his meta.  Probably just one thing.

[EFHW]

It's so quiet. 

[Archetype]

Too quiet

[Morgrim7]

squirt

[ashersky]

Modkill quiet...

[yuma]

MOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRGRIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!

[yuma]

Vote: Jimmmm

Double vote: Axxle

[yuma]

So TA was a VT, huh? I guess there actually is town in this setup...

SCUUUUUUMSLIIIIIIIIP!

SCUUUUUUMSLIIIIIIIIP!

[yuma]

Sorry I feel behind so bad... I have been super busy lately and just haven't had the time to keep up with this game. I promise I'll do better later.

Promise, promise, promise

Also... Whoever liopoil is, is scum! I am sure of it and will argue it strongly against anyone that doesn't believe me!

[Jimmmmm]

Sorry I feel behind so bad... I have been super busy lately and just haven't had the time to keep up with this game. I promise I'll do better later.

Promise, promise, promise

Also... Whoever liopoil is, is scum! I am sure of it and will argue it strongly against anyone that doesn't believe me!

Let's do it.

Vote: Whoever liopoil is

[yuma]

vote: whoever liopoil is!

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.4:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (2): Voltaire1, sudgy1
liopoil (3): Voltaire2, sudgy2, liopoil1
Dsell (1): Dsell1
insom (4): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, liopoil2
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (1): faust2
Jimmmmm (1): yuma1
Axxle (1): yuma2

On Day 2, with 1213 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[mail-mi]

Sorry I feel behind so bad... I have been super busy lately and just haven't had the time to keep up with this game. I promise I'll do better later.

Promise, promise, promise

Also... Whoever liopoil is, is scum! I am sure of it and will argue it strongly against anyone that doesn't believe me!

vote: jimmmmm

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Jimmmmm

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.5:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (2): Voltaire1, sudgy1
liopoil (3): Voltaire2, sudgy2, liopoil1
Dsell (1): Dsell1
insom (4): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, liopoil2
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (1): faust2
Jimmmmm (3): yuma1, mail-mi2, Jimmmmm1
Axxle (1): yuma2

On Day 2, with 13 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[sudgy]

Vote: Jimmmmm

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.6:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (1): Voltaire1
liopoil (3): Voltaire2, sudgy1, liopoil1
Dsell (1): Dsell1
insom (4): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, liopoil2
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (1): faust2
Jimmmmm (4): yuma1, mail-mi2, Jimmmmm1, sudgy2
Axxle (1): yuma2

On Day 2, with 13 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

[faust]

I'll be VLA over the weekend working on a university project. Please don't take any hasty moves!

[EFHW]

vote: whoever liopoil is!

liopoil is TA, I believe.  And you are no longer redacted!

[EFHW]

Looks like I haven't voted yet.  Let's see, vote: Dsell, vote: Theorel

[Dsell]

Everyone vote insom! The question is whether to have my other vote on Dsell or on Jimmmmmm.

[EFHW]

what's the reason for voting Insom?

[liopoil]

Vote: Insomniac
Vote: Jimmmmm

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Insomniac
Vote: Jimmmmm

[Dsell]

Also! I noticed something reading old threads, it's a quote (from me, incidentally) about how the biggest piece of Insomniac's meta is that he'll will bus anyone at any time, including scumbuddies, including day one, and he totally loves it. So I could definitely see scum being in this game with Insomniac's meta and being forced to bus a partner day one. The only hitch is that they couldn't know what their partner's meta is, so maybe they had to vote for the meta of their partner, see what I mean? So like Morgrim and Shraeye are scumbuddies. Shraeye has Insomniac's meta, so he has to vote for Morgrim (or another scumbuddy) day one. Except he's actually voting for their meta, which could be on either a townie or mafia.

Does that make any sense?

Anyway, vote: Insomniac.

@EFHW

This

[Dsell]

aaaaaccckkkkkk

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.7:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (1): Voltaire1
liopoil (2): Voltaire2, sudgy1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, EFHW1
insom (5): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, liopoil1, Jimmmmm1
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (2): faust2, EFHW2
Jimmmmm (5): yuma1, mail-mi2, Jimmmmm2, sudgy2, liopoil2
Axxle (1): yuma2

On Day 2, it takes 6 to lynch.

[EFHW]

better than nothing - unvote: Theorel, vote: Insomniac

[EFHW]

oh no!  I derphammered!

[ashersky]

oh no!  I derphammered!

Nope.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.8:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (1): Voltaire1
liopoil (2): Voltaire2, sudgy1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, EFHW1
insom (6): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, liopoil1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (1): faust2
Jimmmmm (5): yuma1, mail-mi2, Jimmmmm2, sudgy2, liopoil2
Axxle (1): yuma2

On Day 2, it takes 6 to lynch.

[liopoil]

Unvote: Insomniac, Vote: TwistedArcher

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.9:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (1): Voltaire1
liopoil (2): Voltaire2, sudgy1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, EFHW1
insom (5): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, Jimmmmm1, EFHW2
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (1): faust2
Jimmmmm (5): yuma1, mail-mi2, Jimmmmm2, sudgy2, liopoil1
Axxle (1): yuma2
Twistedarcher (1): liopoil2

On Day 2, it takes 6 to lynch.

[EFHW]

self-voting! Unvote: Insom, Vote: TA

[EFHW]

Post Count!

1.  Dsell  91
2.  sudgy  56
3.  Voltaire  26
4.  Voltgloss  19
5.  mail-mi  78
6.  Eevee  17
7.  Jimmmmm  26
9.  2.7....  25
11.  EFHW  64
15.  liopoil  24
17.  mcmcsalot  15
18.  faust  32
19.  [yuma]  7

[EFHW]

Dsell's high count means he is almost certainly scum, so unvote: Liopoil, vote: Dsell's meta

EFHW's middling post count means she is obviously innocent and should be made IC.

Voltgloss's low post count reflects that he is missing in action, and a search party should be sent out immediately.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.10:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (1): Voltaire1
liopoil (2): Voltaire2, sudgy1
Dsell (2): Dsell1, EFHW1
insom (4): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, Jimmmmm1
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (1): faust2
Jimmmmm (5): yuma1, mail-mi2, Jimmmmm2, sudgy2, liopoil1
Axxle (1): yuma2
Twistedarcher (2): liopoil2, EFHW1

On Day 2, it takes 6 to lynch.

[EFHW]

nvm, leave my vote on TA.  I have to figure out who Dsell is...

[mail-mi]

nvm, leave my vote on TA.  I have to figure out who Dsell is...

Hammer Jimmmm!

[Dsell]

Dsell's high count means he is almost certainly scum, so unvote: Liopoil, vote: Dsell's meta

EFHW's middling post count means she is obviously innocent and should be made IC.

Ha! Ridiculous notion! Just because I'm posting I get suspected! Well let me tell you, when we were moving along at a good rate, scum were dying left and right. You should complain about me not posting MORE!

[EFHW]

okey dokey - intent to hammer jimmmmm

[EFHW]

oh well, no answer.  Vote: Jimmmmm

[ashersky]

Day 2 Final Vote Count:

chairs (1): 2.71
joth (1): 2.72
Robz888 (1): Voltaire1
liopoil (2): Voltaire2, sudgy1
Dsell (1): Dsell1
insom (4): Dsell2, mail-mi1, Eevee1, Jimmmmm1
mail-mi (1): faust1
theorel (1): faust2
Jimmmmm (6): yuma1, mail-mi2, Jimmmmm2, sudgy2, liopoil1, EFHW2
Axxle (1): yuma2
Twistedarcher (2): liopoil2, EFHW1

On Day 2, it took 6 to lynch.

[ashersky]

You all have lynched faust!  He was the Jester, channeling the spirit of Jimmmmm!

Faust wins!  The game continues, though.

Night 2 has begun.  Get me your actions, so I can start Day 3.

[ashersky]

Surprise!  Things weren't done on D2!

Liopoil committed suicide!  He was the Werewolf Suicidal Goon!  He was channeling the spirit of Twistedarcher.

Night 2 continues.

[ashersky]

Overnight, things happened.

yuma, the Town Deprogrammer, died instantaneously from a bitter poison in the night.  He was channeling the spirit of Dsell.

Also, some rules have changed.

Rule #3 is repealed.  All players have only one vote.
Rule #6 is amended.  All players may now fakeclaim one, and only one, meta.  That meta must not be your actual meta.
Rule #7 is amended.  All players may now fakeclaim one, and only one, role.  That role must not be your actual role.

I will be providing more posting restrictions as the days move along.  More rules will be amended on Day 4.

Day 3 has begun!

[ashersky]

Vote Count 3.0:

Not Voting (11): Dsell, sudgy, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, 2.7, EFHW, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[Voltaire]

vote: mail-mi

Have to start by killing the claimed, confirmed scum.

[Dsell]

Hehe, my meta was the "sorry I fell behind" meta.
I have nooooooo idea where this is coming from...
Voltaire, you feel confident that mail-mi's meta is scum?
In the meantime I'm back to vote: insomniac.

[Voltaire]

Hehe, my meta was the "sorry I fell behind" meta.
I have nooooooo idea where this is coming from...
Voltaire, you feel confident that mail-mi's meta is scum?
In the meantime I'm back to vote: insomniac.

What are you talking about? Morgrim has mail-mi's meta, died, came back to life, and is in the game. He flipped scum. I mean this is Bastard mafia and everything but the game is not over, we still have metas!

[ashersky]

Vote Count 3.1:

mail-mi (1): Voltaire

Not Voting (10): Dsell, sudgy, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, 2.7, EFHW, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[ashersky]

Please note, I won't be counting votes for metas that have already been established as not being in the game by previously vote counts.

[mail-mi]

Hehe, my meta was the "sorry I fell behind" meta.
I have nooooooo idea where this is coming from...
Voltaire, you feel confident that mail-mi's meta is scum?
In the meantime I'm back to vote: insomniac.

What are you talking about? Morgrim has mail-mi's meta, died, came back to life, and is in the game. He flipped scum. I mean this is Bastard mafia and everything but the game is not over, we still have metas!

vote: mail-mi

[Dsell]

I couldn't remember his role, thought he was town actually. Weird. Um. Whatever, I'll vote after I fly (traveling tonight).

[ashersky]

Also, Voltgloss has yet to be replaced, but he has not checked in with anyone for a long time.  At this point, he's basically a tree stump.  He may still be lynched.

[Voltaire]

I think it could be better to lynch Voltgloss since this is a bastard game but the problem is I don't know Voltgloss's meta. Does anyone have any guesses?

[EFHW]

Hehe, my meta was the "sorry I fell behind" meta.
I have nooooooo idea where this is coming from...
Voltaire, you feel confident that mail-mi's meta is scum?
In the meantime I'm back to vote: insomniac.

we already did the insomniac thing - nothing happened.

agree vote: mail-mi.

Do we want to inspect anyone?  mod: Is anyone eligible for inspection now?

[ashersky]

Do we want to inspect anyone?  mod: Is anyone eligible for inspection now?

Everyone but yuma has been dead for at least one game phase.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 3.2:

mail-mi (3): Voltaire, mail-mi, EFHW

Not Voting (8): Dsell, sudgy, Voltgloss, Eevee, Jimmmmm, 2.7, Morgrim7, mcmcsalot

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

[Dsell]

Let's inspect walrus.

[2.71828.....]

Like the idea of inspecting walrus.

inspect: walrus

[mail-mi]

No no no no no no. We should investigate the supposed Vanilla townie, aka TA. Duh.

investigate: TA

Or Galzria, if we have to investigate by meta.

[EFHW]

We probably aren't going to find out anything new about any of them, unless there's some kind of surprise we can't anticipate.  I say the game is so slow, lets go with Walrus b/c we have more people who are posting wanting that.

inspect: walrus

[ashersky]

No no no no no no. We should investigate the supposed Vanilla townie, aka TA. Duh.

investigate: TA

Or Galzria, if we have to investigate by meta.

Corpse inspections are done by body, not meta.  The spirits have left the bodies, after all.

[2.71828.....]

Let's actually think about this before we go waste our inspection.  On second thought, speeding the game up is good. Just one more vote to inspect walrus.

[sudgy]

I was thinking we should maybe inspect TA, but then Dsell said this:

Let's inspect walrus.

Inspect walrus

[Eevee]

My my! This game just became way more playable, the double vote thing was confusing the bejesus out of me.

Maybe I'll even lurk less now that it doesn't take so much brain power to say caught up. I apologize for being such a small presence this far.

[Eevee]

More or less indifferent on who to inspect, fine with Inspect: TA because a VT flip is indeed weird.

[mcmcsalot]

Really, apparently I missed an entire day...

[mcmcsalot]

Reread finished, luckily it wasn't that long.

Also can we inspect Morgrim? he was technically dead.

I am going to vote: raerae who I believe to be efhw who I believe to be scum.

[Archetype]

Vote Count 3.3:

mail-mi (3): Voltaire, mail-mi, EFHW

raerae (1): mcmcsalot

Not Voting (7): Dsell, sudgy, Voltgloss, Eevee, Jimmmmm, 2.7, Morgrim7

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Corpse Inspection:
Walrus (3): 2.7, EFHW, sudgy
Twistedarcher (1): Eevee

[mail-mi]

inspect TA

[Voltaire]

Inspect: TA!

[mcmcsalot]

actually, morgrim is most likely still scum. vote: mail-mi

[Dsell]

People havea good point; inspect TA.

[2.71828.....]

Ok. Here is my official update for the game:

Players:
1.  Dsell
2.  sudgy
3.  Voltaire
4.  Voltgloss
5.  mail-mi
6.  Eevee
7.  Jimmmmm
8.  xeiron - Voltgloss, the Mafia Janitor - Destroyed by magic on Night 1
9.  2.7....
10.  Chairs - Morgrim7, the Mafia Suicidal Goon - Lynched Day 1
11.  EFHW
12.  WalrusMcFishSr - Voltaire, the Werewolf Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber - Self-detonated Day 2
13.  Robz888 - shraeye, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber - Self-detonated Day 2
14.  Twistedarcher - Galzria, the Vanilla Townie - Bombed by WalrusMcFishSr D2
15.  liopoil - Twistedarcher, the Suicidal Werewolf Goon - Suicided D2
16.  Morgrim7 - mail-mi, the redacted role - Bombed by Robz888 D2, but resurrected!
17.  mcmcsalot
18.  faust - Jimmmmm, the Jester - Lynched D2 and Wins!
19.  [yuma] - Dsell, the Town Deprogrammer - Poisoned N2

So for D3

11 alive people 1.  Dsell 2.  sudgy 3.  Voltaire 4.  Voltgloss 5.  mail-mi 6.  Eevee 7.  Jimmmmm 8. 9.  2.7.... 10. 11.  EFHW 12. 13. 14. 15.  16.  Morgrim (resurrected) 17.  mcmcsalot 18.  19.

12 player metas still alive 1. 2.  sudgy 3. 4. 5.  mail-mi (resurrected) 6.  Eevee 7.  8.  xeiron 9.  2.7.... 10.  Chairs 11.  EFHW 12.  WalrusMcFishSr 13.  Robz888 14.  15.  liopoil 16. 17.  mcmcsalot 18.  faust 19.

dead non-player metas shraeye Galzria

So no one followed up on yesterday's foolproof formula:

((# of players)-(# of dead players)+(number of total posts))/(# of posts by Ashersky) +/- 2.71828=player we lynch.

Which if we were to do today would mean:

so (19-8+653)/(101)=6.57425743
+2.718= about 9 (lands on 2.7)
-2.718= about 4 (lands on voltgloss's already dead meta)

Well, it is clear that this formula is incorrect, as it ends up giving my name out for lynching.  In fact, I think formulas might be an altogether wrong way to approach this.  Let us just go to straight percentages and odds.  11 alive, 6 to lynch.  We have the best odds to lynch a well-known f.ds meta.  We should lynch a well-known f.ds meta.  What am I saying?  mail-mi is a KNOWN meta.  100% chance of a lynch.  I like 100%.  Those are good odds.  But what is the chance that he is town? we don't want to lynch town?  In a bastard game, I would say the chance that he is town is about 50%.  (yes, I am saying ashersky flipped a coin on each of us to decide town/scum.  He was more selective about roles probably, but alignments can go crazy in a bastard game.  Which is why that is the one thing we are allowed to talk about.)  So 99% chance to lynch (you never know) + 50% chance of scum = 78.23% chance of being happy with the lynch.

vote: mail-mi

THAT IS L-1 EVERYBODY.  lets get the results of the inspection before a hammer at least.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 3.4:

mail-mi (5): Voltaire, mail-mi, EFHW, mcmcsalot, 2.7

Not Voting (6): Dsell, sudgy, Voltgloss, Eevee, Jimmmmm, Morgrim7

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Corpse Inspection:
Walrus (3): 2.7, EFHW, sudgy
Twistedarcher (4): Eevee, mail-mi, Voltaire, Dsell

[ashersky]

Also, where is everyone?

[Voltaire]

Also, where is everyone?

Trying to adhere to our usually lurking meta.

There I gave you a hint guys!

[Morgrim7]

Yes, why don't we all kill morgrim! Vote: Theory

[Voltaire]

vote: mail-mi

THAT IS L-1 EVERYBODY.  lets get the results of the inspection before a hammer at least.

Alright I think anyone can hammer now. We definitely need sunglasses to get this game moving again and we already have a robust scum just like faust. I don't think that Morgrim turned into a jester or anything.

We also need our corpse inspection results. Fortunately TA won that vote. Since this game will get pretty fanciful over the holiday HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER.

[EFHW]

vote: mail-mi

THAT IS L-1 EVERYBODY.  lets get the results of the inspection before a hammer at least.

Alright I think anyone can hammer now. We definitely need sunglasses to get this game moving again and we already have a robust scum just like faust. I don't think that Morgrim turned into a jester or anything.

We also need our corpse inspection results. Fortunately TA won that vote. Since this game will get pretty fanciful over the holiday HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER.

vote: Archetype -- he lurks.  That post made no sense,  Voltaire.

[EFHW]

Inspect: TA. 

[Voltaire]

vote: mail-mi

THAT IS L-1 EVERYBODY.  lets get the results of the inspection before a hammer at least.

Alright I think anyone can hammer now. We definitely need sunglasses to get this game moving again and we already have a robust scum just like faust. I don't think that Morgrim turned into a jester or anything.

We also need our corpse inspection results. Fortunately TA won that vote. Since this game will get pretty fanciful over the holiday HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER.

vote: Archetype -- he lurks.  That post made no sense,  Voltaire.

Why are you not voting for mod-confirmed scum? You're next on my list EFHW.

[EFHW]

mod confirmed scum?  Who is that?

[Voltaire]

16.  Morgrim7 - mail-mi, the redacted role - Bombed by Robz888 D2, but resurrected!

[Voltaire]

Oh no!  Robz888, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber, has detonated his bomb!  He was channeling the spirit of shraeye.  He's taken Morgrim, the redacted role with him!  Morgrim was channeling the spirit of mail-mi.

But now it looks like Morgrim's alignment has been edited out. So bastard! I could swear he flipped scum.

[EFHW]

Oh no!  Robz888, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber, has detonated his bomb!  He was channeling the spirit of shraeye.  He's taken Morgrim, the redacted role with him!  Morgrim was channeling the spirit of mail-mi.

But now it looks like Morgrim's alignment has been edited out. So bastard! I could swear he flipped scum.

Maybe you have information the rest of us don't?

[EFHW]

Oh no!  Robz888, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber, has detonated his bomb!  He was channeling the spirit of shraeye.  He's taken Morgrim, the redacted role with him!  Morgrim was channeling the spirit of mail-mi.

But now it looks like Morgrim's alignment has been edited out. So bastard! I could swear he flipped scum.

Maybe you have information the rest of us don't?

scumslip!

[Voltaire]

Look at the post I quoted, it has been edited.

[Voltaire]

actually, morgrim is most likely still scum. vote: mail-mi

See mcmc degrees with me.

[mcmcsalot]

vote: Archetype -- he lurks.  That post made no sense,  Voltaire.

Why are you not voting for mod-confirmed scum? You're next on my list EFHW.

To answer your question

Reread finished, luckily it wasn't that long.

Also can we inspect Morgrim? he was technically dead.

I am going to vote: raerae who I believe to be efhw who I believe to be scum.

EFHW doesn't want to lynch her scum partner. Also I can go through and quote the posts showing EFHW is raerae if you want though it's pretty obvious

[Morgrim7]

Not killed me yet? Hmm. Very interesting.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: mail-mi

[ashersky]

Vote Count 3.5:

mail-mi (5): Voltaire, mail-mi, mcmcsalot, 2.7, Jimmmmm
theory (1): Morgrim7
Archetype (1): EFHW

Not Voting (4): Dsell, sudgy, Voltgloss, Eevee

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Corpse Inspection:
Walrus (2): 2.7, sudgy
Twistedarcher (5): Eevee, mail-mi, Voltaire, Dsell, EFHW

[EFHW]

vote: Archetype -- he lurks.  That post made no sense,  Voltaire.

Why are you not voting for mod-confirmed scum? You're next on my list EFHW.

To answer your question

Reread finished, luckily it wasn't that long.

Also can we inspect Morgrim? he was technically dead.

I am going to vote: raerae who I believe to be efhw who I believe to be scum.

EFHW doesn't want to lynch her scum partner. Also I can go through and quote the posts showing EFHW is raerae if you want though it's pretty obvious

Deflecting from his scumpartner Voltaire.

[Dsell]

Turkey. Turkey turkey turkey turkey. Turk turkeyyyyyyyy!

[ashersky]

A hammer today results in extra gravy for everyone.

(That's an actual prize.)

[mcmcsalot]

A hammer today results in extra gravy for everyone.

(That's an actual prize.)

Please, can we lynch morgrim(mail-mi) who already flipped scum or EFHW(raerae) who refuses to lynch her partner and is definitely scum.

[mail-mi]

A hammer today results in extra gravy for everyone.

(That's an actual prize.)

Please, can we lynch morgrim(mail-mi) who already flipped scum or EFHW(raerae) who refuses to lynch her partner and is definitely scum.

Inspect TA first!

[mcmcsalot]

A hammer today results in extra gravy for everyone.

(That's an actual prize.)

Please, can we lynch morgrim(mail-mi) who already flipped scum or EFHW(raerae) who refuses to lynch her partner and is definitely scum.

Inspect TA first!

inspect TA

[Eevee]

vote: mailmi

[2.71828.....]

Scumread on ashersky for bribing us to hammer

[2.71828.....]

Also, EFHW seems scummy for casually removing her mail-mi vote

[ashersky]

Scumread on ashersky for bribing us to hammer

No gravy for you.

[ashersky]

Final D3 Vote Count:

mail-mi (6): Voltaire, mail-mi, mcmcsalot, 2.7, Jimmmmm, Eevee
theory (1): Morgrim7
Archetype (1): EFHW

Not Voting (3): Dsell, sudgy, Voltgloss

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

Corpse Inspection:
Walrus (2): 2.7, sudgy
Twistedarcher (6): Eevee, mail-mi, Voltaire, Dsell, EFHW, mcmcsalot

[2.71828.....]

Scumread on ashersky for bribing us to hammer

No gravy for you.

WHAT!?!?
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ashersky]

You poke and prod at the rotting corpse of Twistedarcher, seeking any hint to his real identity.  Was his flip just a lie?

No, no it wasn't.  Twistedarcher was town-aligned!

[ashersky]

Also, everyone decided to kill Morgrim7.  Again.  How unfair is that?

Morgrim7 was the Werewolf Vampire!  When he died, his spirit (called mail-mi) left his furry body and resurrected itself as a Mafioso!  But then you killed him again.  Now he's staying dead.

Night 3 begins now!

[ashersky]

Night actions, people.

[ashersky]

Someone died during the night.

Poor sudgy, the Serial Killer-aligned Scattershot Poison Doctor, is dead!  Looks like he drank some wicked poison.  He was channeling the spirit of Eevee!


Day 4 has begun.

There are 9 alive.  It takes 5 to lynch.  More rule changes coming.

[2.71828.....]

Where is my gravy? Scum read on ash for not giving me gravy. Vote: ashersky

[ashersky]

Okay, no limit on the number of fake claims for either meta or role. 

In fact, everyone is required to fake claim both a meta and a role in their next post!

Also, turn up the post restriction juice.  Take it to the next level.

[ashersky]

Scumread on ashersky for bribing us to hammer

No gravy for you.

[mail-mi]

I channel Morgrim7! I am a strongman cop, no one can be protected from my investigations. Also, let's all vote: ashersky cuz we can. Duh.

[2.71828.....]

Looks like I made a mistake finding ash scummy. In fact, that first post just looks like a huge mistake overall. Everyone forget I even posted it. Who fake claims? I am a town paranoid gun owner who is channeling the spirit of mcmc.

[2.71828.....]

Lo! The end is nigh for those who target me. You will meet your end to my paranoid gun. Also FoS to everyone who hasn't posted today yet.

[ashersky]

Also FoS to everyone who hasn't posted today yet.

[EFHW]

I'm liam, I mean, I'm mail-mi. vote: ashersky b/c mail-mi did, and I'm a strongman cop, duh!

[EFHW]

Also FoS to everyone who hasn't posted today yet.

Day 4 Post Count:

e: 3
mail-mi (the real one): 1
ashersky: 4
EFHW: 1
everyone else: 0

With the highest number of Day 4 posts, ashersky is clearly scum trying to seem towny.  Everyone else (except the Europeans and the Australian) clearly ate too much turkey.

[mail-mi]

Also FoS to everyone who hasn't posted today yet.

Hey, jack, just because I only posted once doesn't mean you can't FOS me. In fact, FOS: Morgrim7 because he's (I'm) such a low poster.

[Dsell]

Well, I am Glooble and I'm a 1-shot woodcutter (vigilante)!
It's quite an honor as he was an amazing scumbuddy once.
Who should we inspect today?

[EFHW]

I was going to say Walrus, b/c I thought he was Eevee, but now I see sudgy was Eevee.  We can't do Morgrim yet.  How about Liopoil?  Or Robz?

[EFHW]

And if anyone knows Voltaire's meta, he scumslipped yesterday and needs to be lynched.

[Voltaire]

And if anyone knows Voltaire's meta, he scumslipped yesterday and needs to be lynched.

That's obtuse. I have no ideal what you are talking about. I am theory, a 1-shot Governor. I used my one shot on D1. Dsell is town, I am certain.

[mcmcsalot]

Role: Commuter
Meta: Spiritbears

[mcmcsalot]

I was going to say Walrus, b/c I thought he was Eevee, but now I see sudgy was Eevee.  We can't do Morgrim yet.  How about Liopoil?  Or Robz?

Redeem yourself in my eyes, what is voltair's scumslip?

[mcmcsalot]

oh and again, vote: raerae EFHW is scum.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: raerae

[EFHW]

vote: Archetype -- he lurks.  That post made no sense,  Voltaire.

Why are you not voting for mod-confirmed scum? You're next on my list EFHW.

mod confirmed scum?  Who is that?

Oh no!  Robz888, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber, has detonated his bomb!  He was channeling the spirit of shraeye.  He's taken Morgrim, the redacted role with him!  Morgrim was channeling the spirit of mail-mi.

But now it looks like Morgrim's alignment has been edited out. So bastard! I could swear he flipped scum.

Maybe you have information the rest of us don't?

I don't think anything was edited out.  It was redacted from the beginning - ash said mod text was PINL.  You and mcmc thought he flipped scum b/c he was on your team.

[EFHW]

vote: archetype

[mail-mi]

oh and again, vote: raerae EFHW is scum.

You're wrong. Pretty sure EFHW isn't raerae. He's liopoil. All about scumslips. vote: liopoil

[mcmcsalot]

EFHW, he was a werewolf and ressurected as mafia, he was scum both times and was different scum. Are you saying me and volt are werewolves or mafia or what?

[mcmcsalot]

sure'n this is lively!

mail-mi is sassy!

I think we should make a list of all the players and their metas. It will make voting and night kills a lot easier.

FTFY.  Trash.

But it will also help out any town PRs we have out there. I definitely think it's the way to go.

Sadly, it's only votes and NKs, not night actions.

Hold on, there are no PRs?  What kind of bastard game is that?  This is not what I signed up for!

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

This is a terribad idea!  We guess wrong and the meta turns out to be in the game and bam! that person is lynched.

Alright.

The following people are off the table for today:

EFHW, Dsell, Robz, Walrus, Jimmmm.

I don't think that's a good idea. It's incredibly obvious that there is at least three scum in that group.

No more Mr. Nice Noob!   

Actually, I think it's a fine idea!

Dsell's high count means he is almost certainly scum, so unvote: Liopoil, vote: Dsell's meta

EFHW's middling post count means she is obviously innocent and should be made IC.

Voltgloss's low post count reflects that he is missing in action, and a search party should be sent out immediately.

okey dokey - intent to hammer jimmmmm

So jokey and sassy, its exactly like raerae. That friendly but serious style is unmistakable. Raerae also sticks to her guns quite a bit and Efhw is doing just that here.

[Voltaire]

OK EFHW really does look scummy. vote: raerae

[Eevee]

Man this game is SO confusing.

I claim SFS and town doctor?

[Eevee]

My scumhunting has been lacking, but this seems like a sure-fire scumtell

oh and again, vote: raerae EFHW is scum.

You're wrong. Pretty sure EFHW isn't raerae. He's liopoil. All about scumslips. vote: liopoil

, no way town could be that sure of EFHW, smells a lot like someone protecting their partner. In fact I'll even Vote: raerae

[Eevee]

 And I do know I've been lurking, but it's a town tell for me! Game is too confusing to participate. Pretty sure mail-mi is scum though, how can we kill him?

[ashersky]

Vote Count 4.1:

ashersky (1): 2.7
raerae (4): mcmcsalot, Jimmmmm, Voltaire, Eevee {L-1}
Archetype (1): EFHW
liopoil (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (2): Dsell, Voltgloss

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Corpse Inspection:

Not Voting (9): Dsell, Voltaire, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Eevee, Jimmmmm, 2.7, EFHW, mcmcsalot

[mcmcsalot]

woah, we also need to use our inspection, can we inspect: xieron so far we have 3 faction that should have night kills and only destroyed by magic night one, and by poison nights 2 and 3.

[2.71828.....]

scumread on mcmc for trying to inspect BEFORE a lynch rather than AFTER the lynch.....wait....

[ashersky]

I'll let you scurry for an inspection during twilight, if needed.

[Voltaire]

woah, we also need to use our inspection, can we inspect: xieron so far we have 3 faction that should have night kills and only destroyed by magic night one, and by poison nights 2 and 3.

That seems smart. inspect: xeiron

[2.71828.....]

inspect: xeiron

[Eevee]

inspext: xeiron

[ashersky]

Vote Count 4.2:

ashersky (1): 2.7
raerae (4): mcmcsalot, Jimmmmm, Voltaire, Eevee {L-1}
Archetype (1): EFHW
liopoil (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (2): Dsell, Voltgloss

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Corpse Inspection:

xeiron (4): mcmcsalot, Voltaire, 2.7, Eevee

Not Voting (9): Dsell, Voltgloss, mail-mi, Jimmmmm, EFHW

[mail-mi]

inspect: xeiron

Y'all suck. You're not even gonna lynch EFHW probably, she's not raerae. Of that I am pretty sure. Of course she's liopoil. I am the smartest, therefore I know.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 4.3:

ashersky (1): 2.7
raerae (4): mcmcsalot, Jimmmmm, Voltaire, Eevee {L-1}
Archetype (1): EFHW
liopoil (1): mail-mi

Not Voting (2): Dsell, Voltgloss

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Corpse Inspection:

xeiron (5): mcmcsalot, Voltaire, 2.7, Eevee, mail-mi

Not Voting (4): Dsell, Voltgloss, Jimmmmm, EFHW



The townsfolk found the remaining bits and pieces of xeiron's body from night 1 and inspected it closely.  They found that, in fact, he was mafia-aligned!

[Voltaire]

Hmmm that is a good point too. vote: liopoil

[ashersky]

If you were allowed, would you role claim?

Some mods seem to think it is annoying not to be able to...

[Archetype]

Hey everyone time to get serious, everyone needs to post more and be present, scum will run away with this if we do not come together.

[mail-mi]

If you were allowed, would you role claim?

Some mods seem to think it is annoying not to be able to...

Well, smartypants, that would depend on everyone's alignment, duh. What scum would want to claim, like, "Strongman Goon"?

[Voltaire]

Hey everyone time to get serious, everyone needs to post more and be present, scum will run away with this if we do not come together.

Even more combustion why EFHW is scum. She knew Archetype is in the smorgasbord. This is as clear-cut a Halloween as I could ever imagine when scum just claims and we lynch them. It's debacle guys, c'mon!

bagel: liopoil

[Eevee]

If you were allowed, would you role claim?

Some mods seem to think it is annoying not to be able to...

I would claim. Probably. Maybe.

[EFHW]

EFHW, he was a werewolf and ressurected as mafia, he was scum both times and was different scum. Are you saying me and volt are werewolves or mafia or what?

whatever he was first - you say werewolves, so that's what I think you are.

[EFHW]

Hey everyone time to get serious, everyone needs to post more and be present, scum will run away with this if we do not come together.

Even more combustion why EFHW is scum. She knew Archetype is in the smorgasbord. This is as clear-cut a Halloween as I could ever imagine when scum just claims and we lynch them. It's debacle guys, c'mon!

bagel: liopoil

Voltaire is Archetype.  I'm pretty sure it was arch who said debacle instead of debate.  I'll look it up. 

Also, this is scummy ...:

And if anyone knows Voltaire's meta, he scumslipped yesterday and needs to be lynched.

That's obtuse. I have no ideal what you are talking about. I am theory, a 1-shot Governor. I used my one shot on D1. Dsell is town, I am certain.

... because I had already stated my opinion that he had scumslipped Day 3, and he was fully aware what that was about.

And finally this ....

OK EFHW really does look scummy. vote: raerae

pretending just now he has decided I was scummy to justify his vote, when he had already said as much Day 3.

Voltaire is scum, guys, and everyone should vote Archetype.

[EFHW]

from LOTR2:

I'll keep it hush-hush for now mail-mi. Spoiler: it's not anything ridiculous like MASSCLAIM NOAW!

Did anyone else just get the feeling of Mcmcsalot picking whichever side of the Yuma and TA debacle is the safest? He voted Yuma, and then immediately switched over to Twistedarcher when Yuma told him to read the entire argument (which he should before voting). I don't know if this is a valid scumtell or if it's just mcmc being like this, but I'll Vote:mcmcslaot for now.

[mcmcsalot]

why the jump to liopoil when raerae was at L-1...EFHW is raerae, if she is not, someone else is or noone is.

Lets do this, I am claiming not raerae. If everyone does, no harm bringing raerae to 5 votes. If someone who isn't EFHW is raerae then we won't lynch her.

[EFHW]

Or ignore mcmc and Voltaire altogether, b/c they are teammates and are protecting each other.  Their only beef with me is that I changed my vote from Morgrim to Voltaire.

[2.71828.....]

Ok. 9 people left.
So far the dead have been:
3 scum
3 werewolves
2 town
1 jester

Let me throw some facts out there for what the living will look like:
5 more town
3 more scum
1 random

So, based on conclusive evidence that EFHW is channeling raerae, and that EFHW is scum, with this lynch we will now have a town majority. So vote: raerae, and huge scumread on Voltaire for leaving the raerae wagon.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 4.4:

raerae (4): mcmcsalot, Jimmmmm, Eevee, 2.7 {L-1}
Archetype (1): EFHW
liopoil (2): mail-mi, Voltaire

Not Voting (2): Dsell, Voltgloss

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[mail-mi]

I think EFHW is liopoil. You think she's raerae. I have an idea that's better than all the ideas here combined.

EFHW, please claim to be raerae in your next post. if she is raerae, she won't be able to.

[2.71828.....]

I think EFHW is liopoil. You think she's raerae. I have an idea that's better than all the ideas here combined.

EFHW, please claim to be raerae in your next post. if she is raerae, she won't be able to.

better idea. Vote raerae and we find out.

[EFHW]

huge scumread on Voltaire for leaving the raerae wagon.

the same reason he thinks I'm scummy.

[EFHW]

vote: raerae

[ashersky]

Final D4 Vote Count:

raerae (5): mcmcsalot, Jimmmmm, Eevee, 2.7, EFHW
liopoil (2): mail-mi, Voltaire

Not Voting (2): Dsell, Voltgloss

With 9 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

[ashersky]

Another lynch!  This time it was mail-mi, the Werewolves' Beloved Princess!  He was channeling the spirit of raerae!

Night 4 has begun...

Except for the Werewolves, for whom Night 4 is skipped!

[ashersky]

No one died, so the game continues.

Day 5 begins!

[ashersky]

All claiming restrictions are removed.  Metas, roles, all fair game.

You may not quote from PMs, but paraphrasing is okay.

You may opt out of your own Posting Restrictions by typing the following command:

Confirm: Metaname where "Metaname" is your meta.  You will be mod confirmed as that meta and no longer have posting restrictions.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.0:

Not Voting (8): Dsell, Voltgloss, mcmcsalot, Jimmmmm, Eevee, 2.7, EFHW, Voltaire

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[2.71828.....]

Lynch Pool Version Day 5:

sudgy
xeiron
Chairs
EFHW
2.7
WalrusMcFishSr
Robz888
liopoil
mcmcsalot
faust
yuma

+other metas of people not in the game

[2.71828.....]

Letting us have a bit of optional freedom I guess:

All claiming restrictions are removed.  Metas, roles, all fair game.

You may not quote from PMs, but paraphrasing is okay.

You may opt out of your own Posting Restrictions by typing the following command:

Confirm: Metaname where "Metaname" is your meta.  You will be mod confirmed as that meta and no longer have posting restrictions.

Any takers for getting your meta confirmed by the mod?  If I go first you promise not to lynch me?

[mcmcsalot]

Raerae was scum!

[mcmcsalot]

Raerae wasn't EFHW...

[mcmcsalot]

Now the question, is EFHW scum? If so who is she.

[Voltaire]

Now the question, is EFHW scum? If so who is she.

Yes, and she should just embargo herself and tell us.

[ashersky]

Hello?

[2.71828.....]

Super quiet. Let's have something to talk about. Time to step out and do something. It's a bastard game so why not.

Confirm: liopoil

Yay for no more posting restrictions and supporting about how terribly I am butchering lio's meta.

[2.71828.....]

Super quiet. Let's have something to talk about. Time to step out and do something. It's a bastard game so why not.

Confirm: liopoil

Yay for no more posting restrictions and wondering about how terribly I am butchering lio's meta.

Ugh auto correct on my kindle.

[2.71828.....]

And vote: EFHW

[2.71828.....]

And D5 pass for mcmc and Voltaire for posting. I will not vote for you. But I might vote your meta. Who knows at this point

[2.71828.....]

And D5 pass for mcmc and Voltaire for posting. I will not vote for you. But I might vote your meta. Who knows at this point

although Voltaire only posted once, so not so much him. I mean, mcmc posted 3 times as many posts as Voltaire today.

[Eevee]

Massclaim? I'd be willing to go first. I feel fairly insignificant.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: EFHW

[Eevee]

Vote: EFFW seems funtasticular!

[Eevee]

I mean all the cool kids are doing it!

[2.71828.....]

Yes! Two more to lynch. Bastard game= bastardly lynch

[2.71828.....]

I mean all the cool kids are doing it!

YES!!!! I am cool. Eevee said so. Me and jimmmm. The only cool people. Well, I mean eevee is too

[2.71828.....]

Massclaim? I'd be willing to go first. I feel fairly insignificant.

we don't need a mass claim. I mean what would be the fun in that. Throwing out random data to hit people is still super fun

[ashersky]

Super quiet. Let's have something to talk about. Time to step out and do something. It's a bastard game so why not.

Confirm: liopoil

Yay for no more posting restrictions and supporting about how terribly I am butchering lio's meta.

2.7 is confirmed as channeling the spirit of liopoil.

[2.71828.....]

Speaking of data (which was actually an auto correct but I will run with it): lots of werewolves this game.you guys think we got them all?

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.1:

EFHW (3): 2.7, Jimmmmm, Eevee

Not Voting (5): Dsell, Voltgloss, mcmcsalot, EFHW, Voltaire

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[2.71828.....]

Super quiet. Let's have something to talk about. Time to step out and do something. It's a bastard game so why not.

Confirm: liopoil

Yay for no more posting restrictions and supporting about how terribly I am butchering lio's meta.

2.7 is confirmed as channeling the spirit of liopoil.

lio, it was a great honor to attempt to impersonate you (actually attempt to follow the instructions in my pm) but the time for subterfuge is over. I must walk plainly in your spirit. I hope to make you proud.

[2.71828.....]

Speaking of data (which was actually an auto correct but I will run with it): lots of werewolves this game.you guys think we got them all?

also, more werewolves than scum so far, which means some of you are scummy. Not eevee or jimmmm because eevee said we were cool. So I think EFHW, maybe Dsell, most likely Voltaire. Scum. If you aren't, claim your meta and prove it.

[2.71828.....]

Speaking of data (which was actually an auto correct but I will run with it): lots of werewolves this game.you guys think we got them all?

also, more werewolves than scum so far, which means some of you are scummy. Not eevee or jimmmm because eevee said we were cool. So I think EFHW, maybe Dsell, most likely Voltaire. Scum. If you aren't, claim your meta and prove it.

or you can prove anti-scum and vote EFHW

[EFHW]

post count:

e - a ton
EFHW - 1
everyone else: in between

hmmmm, not very talkative today, am I?  e is on a mission.  But is his mission for good or evil?  I agree that voltaire is probably scum, and mcmc.  Don't have any idea about Dsell.

[EFHW]

[Voltaire]

Vote: EFHW

[Eevee]

Jokes like this are scummy. Like.. only scum would make them. Pretty sure of that!

If only we knew who EFHW was!

[Voltaire]

I like my meta too much to acclimate it.

[Voltaire]

vote: Walrus right?

[Eevee]

I also apologize for my lurking. I know I should pay more attention to this game, but life has just been so crazy lately.

[Voltaire]

Yes we know who you are Eevee.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.2:

EFHW (3): 2.7, Jimmmmm, Eevee
Walrus (1): Voltaire

Not Voting (4): Dsell, Voltgloss, mcmcsalot, EFHW

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[ashersky]

Let me repeat -- you can claim stuff now.

Also, discuss things.  Like the set-up.  Or flips.  Or theories.

Also, don't forget your corpse inspection.

[Voltaire]

So how many of you are in the cult? Has town lost already? cause I chose not to join it and I would like to know if I've already been end-gamed.

[Eevee]

So how many of you are in the cult? Has town lost already? cause I chose not to join it and I would like to know if I've already been end-gamed.

Uh?

[Eevee]

Yes we know who you are Eevee.

But my house has been flooded and stuff, just no chance to post at all! What is a man who loves mafia too much to do here, really?

[Voltaire]

So how many of you are in the cult? Has town lost already? cause I chose not to join it and I would like to know if I've already been end-gamed.

Uh?

I was given the opportunity to join a Cult last night and I turned it down. This is bastard mafia so I don't know how real it is but I have not noticed any mod lying so far just bastard roles and mechanics.

[Dsell]

Inspect: sudgy
Serial killer doctor is a weird role (although I've had something similar)
Sorry, I've had a pretty ridiculous 72 hours.
I should be more free after tomorrow early afternoon.

[Dsell]

Speaking of data (which was actually an auto correct but I will run with it): lots of werewolves this game.you guys think we got them all?

also, more werewolves than scum so far, which means some of you are scummy. Not eevee or jimmmm because eevee said we were cool. So I think EFHW, maybe Dsell, most likely Voltaire. Scum. If you aren't, claim your meta and prove it.

Hey I am not scum!
I thought Voltaire confirmed that I was town already?
Unless he was not being serious??
That would be mean.

[Voltaire]

Hey I am not scum!
I thought Voltaire confirmed that I was town already?
Unless he was not being serious??
That would be mean.

I was being completely serious I am trying to do what I can to help town win. Trust me I know what I am doing.

[2.71828.....]

Inspect: sudgy

[2.71828.....]

post count:

e - a ton
EFHW - 1
everyone else: in between

hmmmm, not very talkative today, am I?  e is on a mission.  But is his mission for good or evil?  I agree that voltaire is probably scum, and mcmc.  Don't have any idea about Dsell.

when you posted this Dsell still hasn't posted anything. Neither has voltgloss. Voltgloss hasn't posted in forever.

Are we getting a replacement? Kind of late. I mean, what can we do? Voltgloss hasn't posted since the 15th of November. At this point out seems super late for someone to take his spot. Modkill him off? Lame. It is a bastard game, how about bringing back one of our dead as his character? They can change a new spirit and everything.

mod, what is happening with Voltaire?

[2.71828.....]

post count:

e - a ton
EFHW - 1
everyone else: in between

hmmmm, not very talkative today, am I?  e is on a mission.  But is his mission for good or evil?  I agree that voltaire is probably scum, and mcmc.  Don't have any idea about Dsell.

when you posted this Dsell still hasn't posted anything. Neither has voltgloss. Voltgloss hasn't posted in forever.

Are we getting a replacement? Kind of late. I mean, what can we do? Voltgloss hasn't posted since the 15th of November. At this point out seems super late for someone to take his spot. Modkill him off? Lame. It is a bastard game, how about bringing back one of our dead as his character? They can change a new spirit and everything.

mod, what is happening with voltgloss?

oops. I meant voltgloss. Sorry Voltaire.

[mcmcsalot]

Yes we know who you are Eevee.

...lol

[mcmcsalot]

So how many of you are in the cult? Has town lost already? cause I chose not to join it and I would like to know if I've already been end-gamed.

grr why would you do that.....

[mcmcsalot]

woah woah woah, can we just lynch voltgloss then?

[mcmcsalot]

So how many of you are in the cult? Has town lost already? cause I chose not to join it and I would like to know if I've already been end-gamed.

serious question what cult info did you get, I have been noticing some differences in cult stuff.

[EFHW]

Speaking of data (which was actually an auto correct but I will run with it): lots of werewolves this game.you guys think we got them all?

also, more werewolves than scum so far, which means some of you are scummy. Not eevee or jimmmm because eevee said we were cool. So I think EFHW, maybe Dsell, most likely Voltaire. Scum. If you aren't, claim your meta and prove it.

So are you thinking that werewolves = town?  That would totally change the game, so we should try to figure it out.

It seems kind of late in the game for a cult to start.  Most people would refuse to join, I'd think, so we should have heard about it before.

[EFHW]

Inspect: sudgy

[Voltaire]

serious question what cult info did you get, I have been noticing some differences in cult stuff.

Nothing that led me to believe there are multiple cults. I take it you were either invited or are a part of one.

So are you thinking that werewolves = town?  That would totally change the game, so we should try to figure it out.

It seems kind of late in the game for a cult to start.  Most people would refuse to join, I'd think, so we should have heard about it before.

Definitely not. I believe you have just admitted to being scum, probably mafia. vote: Walrus

[mcmcsalot]

serious question what cult info did you get, I have been noticing some differences in cult stuff.

Nothing that led me to believe there are multiple cults. I take it you were either invited or are a part of one.

So are you thinking that werewolves = town?  That would totally change the game, so we should try to figure it out.

It seems kind of late in the game for a cult to start.  Most people would refuse to join, I'd think, so we should have heard about it before.

Definitely not. I believe you have just admitted to being scum, probably mafia. vote: Walrus

I was invited, but from what I have seen, I believe people may join/unjoin the cult at anytime. Unless I am completely crazy there were once 4-6 cult members and there are now 1-3. If once people leave the cult they cannot rejoin, the cult is of no problem. If people can rejoin the cult the cult could become overpowering on any night. You say you tunred it down? can you explain, I mean did you actually say no to someone or what?

[mcmcsalot]

Also why the EFHW votes? I don't think EFHW can be EFHW.

[Voltaire]

I was invited, but from what I have seen, I believe people may join/unjoin the cult at anytime. Unless I am completely crazy there were once 4-6 cult members and there are now 1-3. If once people leave the cult they cannot rejoin, the cult is of no problem. If people can rejoin the cult the cult could become overpowering on any night. You say you tunred it down? can you explain, I mean did you actually say no to someone or what?

I said no to the invitation which was from the mod. It was one of three options I had.

Also why the EFHW votes? I don't think EFHW can be EFHW.

Hence not voting for her voting for Walrus. That's who she has to be, right? If she's trying to hide her meta then she's defiantly scum.

[mcmcsalot]

vote: Walrus

Okay, I think EFHW is the remaining mafia, and then we have a cult to deal with and as long as noone else joins, town should be fine.

Though depending on what has been going on we may need voltgloss's vote.

[mcmcsalot]

What are your plans for voltgloss?

[mcmcsalot]

I also apologize for my lurking. I know I should pay more attention to this game, but life has just been so crazy lately.

You know I don't think that's quite all of my meta, you could be overly ATE and set in your ways of peoples alignment.

[ashersky]

Voltgloss is still lynchable.  He cannot win and no longer affects any other win condition.

Ignore him, or you may lynch/night kill him.

[mcmcsalot]

Voltgloss is still lynchable.  He cannot win and no longer affects any other win condition.

Ignore him, or you may lynch/night kill him.

okay no reason to do anything with it then, vote: Walrus

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.3:

EFHW (3): 2.7, Jimmmmm, Eevee
Walrus (2): Voltaire, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (3): Dsell, Voltgloss, EFHW

With 8 alive, it takes 54 to lynch.


Corpse Inspection 5:

sudgy (3): Dsell, 2.7, EFHW

Not Voting (5): Jimmmmm, Voltgloss, mcmcsalot, Eevee, Voltaire

[ashersky]

I reduced the takes to lynch number by 1.

[Voltaire]

All the EFHW voters should switch to Walrus so we have a ham sandwhich.

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All the EFHW voters should switch to Walrus so we have a ham sandwhich.

Sounds good to me.

Vote: Walrus

[Dsell]

Why do we think Walrus is scum?
I LOVE the idea of ham sandwiches though, so let's focus on that.

[Voltaire]

So are you thinking that werewolves = town?  That would totally change the game, so we should try to figure it out.

It seems kind of late in the game for a cult to start.  Most people would refuse to join, I'd think, so we should have heard about it before.

Definitely not. I believe you have just admitted to being scum, probably mafia. vote: Walrus

[mcmcsalot]

Why do we think Walrus is scum?
I LOVE the idea of ham sandwiches though, so let's focus on that.
[/quote

We think walrus is EFHW who we think is the last scum.

PPE what Volt said

[2.71828.....]

Why do we think Walrus is scum?
I LOVE the idea of ham sandwiches though, so let's focus on that.

Well, we will need some bread, ham, and some sort of condiment to go on there.  Mustard?  I don't like mustard.  I like mayo.  But then I actually am not a huge fan of ham either, and would much prefer a turkey sandwich

[2.71828.....]

Why do we think Walrus is scum?
I LOVE the idea of ham sandwiches though, so let's focus on that.

We think walrus is EFHW who we think is the last scum.

PPE what Volt said

FTFY

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.4:

EFHW (2): Jimmmmm, Eevee
Walrus (3): Voltaire, mcmcsalot, 2.7

Not Voting (3): Dsell, Voltgloss, EFHW

With 8 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


Corpse Inspection 5:

sudgy (3): Dsell, 2.7, EFHW

Not Voting (5): Jimmmmm, Voltgloss, mcmcsalot, Eevee, Voltaire

[Dsell]

Yes yes yes but why do we think EFHW is Walrus? I have not really gotten that, although I could see raerae. Is this just a big fat guess?

[Voltaire]

Yes yes yes but why do we think EFHW is Walrus? I have not really gotten that, although I could see raerae. Is this just a big fat guess?

She has directly quoted Walrus from previous games and posted joke images/memes. That's Walrus. If she's not Walrus I would have to assume she's be modpunished into following her real meat or something.

[ashersky]

Everyone has been doing okay meeting the posting restrictions so far this game.  Some have been better than others, but no one has just ignored it.

[2.71828.....]

Yes yes yes but why do we think EFHW is Walrus? I have not really gotten that, although I could see raerae. Is this just a big fat guess?

She has directly quoted Walrus from previous games and posted joke images/memes. That's Walrus. If she's not Walrus I would have to assume she's be modpunished into following her real meat or something.

+

Everyone has been doing okay meeting the posting restrictions so far this game.  Some have been better than others, but no one has just ignored it.

=

Let's lynch walrus

[2.71828.....]

Yes yes yes but why do we think EFHW is Walrus? I have not really gotten that, although I could see raerae. Is this just a big fat guess?

She has directly quoted Walrus from previous games and posted joke images/memes. That's Walrus. If she's not Walrus I would have to assume she's be modpunished into following her real meat or something.

+

Everyone has been doing okay meeting the posting restrictions so far this game.  Some have been better than others, but no one has just ignored it.

=

Let's lynch walrus

or I should say, lynch EFHW, who is channeling walrus.

[2.71828.....]

Everyone has been doing okay meeting the posting restrictions so far this game.  Some have been better than others, but no one has just ignored it.

Also, voltgloss must have a meta of someone who shows up early then totally leaves the game or I don't see how this can be true.

[Eevee]

Everyone has been doing okay meeting the posting restrictions so far this game.  Some have been better than others, but no one has just ignored it.

Also, voltgloss must have a meta of someone who shows up early then totally leaves the game or I don't see how this can be true.

Voltgloss has clearly been totally absent from the forums though. I doubt he did it just for this game.

Vote: walrus sounds good though.

[Dsell]

Are we ready for a hammer though?
I can hammer if necessary buuuuuuuut idk.

Ugh what this game really needs is some more bastardly spicing up.

Or kickball.

[Dsell]

Well then.

[2.71828.....]

Speaking of data (which was actually an auto correct but I will run with it): lots of werewolves this game.you guys think we got them all?

also, more werewolves than scum so far, which means some of you are scummy. Not eevee or jimmmm because eevee said we were cool. So I think EFHW, maybe Dsell, most likely Voltaire. Scum. If you aren't, claim your meta and prove it.

So are you thinking that werewolves = town?  That would totally change the game, so we should try to figure it out.

It seems kind of late in the game for a cult to start.  Most people would refuse to join, I'd think, so we should have heard about it before.

and no, werewolves are not, and cannot be town. Because I am town. And not a werewolf. 

[2.71828.....]

Quick, vote an inspection!

[Voltaire]

Speaking of data (which was actually an auto correct but I will run with it): lots of werewolves this game.you guys think we got them all?

also, more werewolves than scum so far, which means some of you are scummy. Not eevee or jimmmm because eevee said we were cool. So I think EFHW, maybe Dsell, most likely Voltaire. Scum. If you aren't, claim your meta and prove it.

So are you thinking that werewolves = town?  That would totally change the game, so we should try to figure it out.

It seems kind of late in the game for a cult to start.  Most people would refuse to join, I'd think, so we should have heard about it before.

and no, werewolves are not, and cannot be town. Because I am town. And not a werewolf.

This is why you should ham sandwhich Walrus ehunt.

[2.71828.....]

The hammer has just happened

[Voltaire]

and I was talking to Dsell

[Eevee]

inspect: sudgy

[mcmcsalot]

inspect: sudgy

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.5:

EFHW (2): Jimmmmm
Walrus (4): Voltaire, mcmcsalot, 2.7, Eevee

Not Voting (3): Dsell, Voltgloss, EFHW

With 8 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


Corpse Inspection 5:

sudgy (5): Dsell, 2.7, EFHW, Eevee, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (5): Jimmmmm, Voltgloss, mcmcsalot, Eevee, Voltaire

[ashersky]

You check out sudgy's dead body and notice...a heart?  Yes, that's a heart, visible through the rib cage there.  But...only town-aligned players have hearts!

sudgy was town-aligned.

[Dsell]

Oh. Weird. Vote: walrus I guess

[ashersky]

Oh. Weird. Vote: walrus I guess

Why?  That meta is already at L and nothing happened.

[2.71828.....]

Well that didn't work

UNVOTE

Back to vote: EFHW

[Dsell]

Oh. Weird. Vote: walrus I guess

Why?  That meta is already at L and nothing happened.

There could be something manipulating numbers. It doesn't hurt.

[ashersky]

Oh. Weird. Vote: walrus I guess

Why?  That meta is already at L and nothing happened.

There could be something manipulating numbers. It doesn't hurt.

No number manipulation.  Vote counts are PINL.

[Eevee]

vote: efhw

[Voltaire]

What about vote: Voltgloss? Didn't he start out jokey? Either that or EFHW has a shifting meta, because she definitely was Walrus at some point. So I guess vote: EFHW and we'll do something else if that doesn't warp.

[Voltaire]

Everyone has been doing okay meeting the posting restrictions so far this game.  Some have been better than others, but no one has just ignored it.

Take a look at this. EFHW, this game

If he shoots N1 then he's anti-town!

I do NOT subtract pre-game posts.

Hold on, there are no PRs?  What kind of bastard game is that?  This is not what I signed up for!

Those aren't alphabetical!  /out!

No more Mr. Nice Noob!   

(and now look at this post from Walrus in GoT:)

No more Mr. Nice Noob! 

EFHW must have either a shifting meta or have been assigned the meta "f.ds". Actually I really like the idea about that last one.

vote: f.ds

[Eevee]

Vote: f.ds seems worth it!

[mcmcsalot]

vote: f.ds

This seems crazy but I'll go with it.

[2.71828.....]

vote: f.ds

I don't think it will work, and I am right back to EFHW after it doesn't work, but why not?

[Voltaire]

vote: f.ds

I don't think it will work, and I am right back to EFHW after it doesn't work, but why not?

Exactly. I will vote EFHW if this doesn't work

[mcmcsalot]

vote: f.ds

I don't think it will work, and I am right back to EFHW after it doesn't work, but why not?

Exactly. I will vote EFHW if this doesn't work

Agreed

[Dsell]

That's a hammer, right?
Clever, all of you, quite clever.
Hooopefully this works.

[ashersky]

I expect everyone to play.

Well, it's designed for 13 right now.  I could expand it to 16 or 21 pretty easily, I think.  But 13 is the sweet spot.

Reserve a spot?

Question: If Robz is not playing, will there still be a Robz meta? If Dsell is playing, is there a possibility of not being a Dsell meta?

Like, is the 13 players playing the 13 metas, or is it 13 of the most known?

It'll be clear at sign ups, but:

"Metas" that are assigned to players will be selected from posted vote counts in any games run on f.ds (I'll probably limit this).  If a vote was cast for the entity, that meta is fair game.  If you wanted to make an exhaustive list of possible vote receivers, you could skim all of the games and make a list from all vote counts.

That's all I'll say on the matter.

[Voltaire]

Everyone has been doing okay meeting the posting restrictions so far this game.  Some have been better than others, but no one has just ignored it.

Take a look at this. EFHW, this game

If he shoots N1 then he's anti-town!

I do NOT subtract pre-game posts.

Hold on, there are no PRs?  What kind of bastard game is that?  This is not what I signed up for!

Those aren't alphabetical!  /out!

No more Mr. Nice Noob!   

(and now look at this post from Walrus in GoT:)

No more Mr. Nice Noob! 

EFHW must have either a shifting meta or have been assigned the meta "f.ds". Actually I really like the idea about that last one.

vote: f.ds

"Metas" that are assigned to players will be selected from posted vote counts in any games run on f.ds

OK, either I'm stumped or we need to research every damn game and find one where someone voted for something, and it was officially counted in a vote count, that could be EFHW. Probably look at old bastard games. Or something.

vote: EFHW as a placeholder.

[2.71828.....]

How is town supposed to win if we have to go through and methodically eliminate every single vote receiver?  I guess no balance was promised, being a bastard game and all.  (we have done a great job killing werewolves though)

vote: EFHW

[ashersky]

EFHW was the sample PM.  I didn't use that meta in the game.  I'm not going to the trouble of vote counts for this one.

[Voltaire]

What well-known meats haven't we lynched yet? Voltgloss? He posted images once (when he was new). vote: Voltgloss. There's a tiny chance EFHW could be Voltgloss.

[mcmcsalot]

vote: voltgloss

I believe box of dog also posted images?

[ashersky]

What well-known meats haven't we lynched yet? Voltgloss? He posted images once (when he was new). vote: Voltgloss. There's a tiny chance EFHW could be Voltgloss.

Go check the player list...

[Voltaire]

What well-known meats haven't we lynched yet? Voltgloss? He posted images once (when he was new). vote: Voltgloss. There's a tiny chance EFHW could be Voltgloss.

Go check the player list...

I'm out of hyperboles. I will vote for anything someone things is EFHW.

[Dsell]

He's saying the xeiron was Voltgloss.

[Voltaire]

I know

[Dsell]

Possibly Ozle? I mean it doesn't seem perfect but who knows.

[EFHW]

So are you guys following your metas?  you all seem like yourselves.

[Voltaire]

Yes. I have not been hiding my meta all game and quoting a player whose meta I do not have. Another reason I am certain you are scum.

[EFHW]

Yes. I have not been hiding my meta all game and quoting a player whose meta I do not have. Another reason I am certain you are scum.

you do seem to be following a meta, it's true.  I don't think it's scummy to quote a meta I don't have.   I have followed my pm instructions faithfully.   It protects against both lynches and nk's.  I'm surprised more people didn't do that. 

[mcmcsalot]

Yes. I have not been hiding my meta all game and quoting a player whose meta I do not have. Another reason I am certain you are scum.

you do seem to be following a meta, it's true.  I don't think it's scummy to quote a meta I don't have.   I have followed my pm instructions faithfully.   It protects against both lynches and nk's.  I'm surprised more people didn't do that.

I have been following my meta very closely I believe.

My next best guesses for EFHW are Dsell or Jimm

I do not think she is Ozle.

vote: Dsell

I do not think EFHW is Ozle.

[mcmcsalot]

Yes. I have not been hiding my meta all game and quoting a player whose meta I do not have. Another reason I am certain you are scum.

you do seem to be following a meta, it's true.  I don't think it's scummy to quote a meta I don't have.   I have followed my pm instructions faithfully.   It protects against both lynches and nk's.  I'm surprised more people didn't do that.

I have been following my meta very closely I believe.

My next best guesses for EFHW are Dsell or Jimm

I do not think she is Ozle.

vote: Dsell

I do not think EFHW is Ozle.

Sorry they are already dead, Robz? TwistedArcher?

vote: TwistedArcher that might be right

[ashersky]

Sorry they are already dead, Robz? TwistedArcher?

vote: TwistedArcher that might be right

Also dead already.

[mcmcsalot]

Sorry they are already dead, Robz? TwistedArcher?

vote: TwistedArcher that might be right

Also dead already.

UGH

xeiron
2.7
chairs
robz
mcmcsalot
faust
yuma

vote: faust

[Voltaire]

vote: faust

[ashersky]

Any suggestions for making this go a bit more easily for everyone?  No one else seems to want to claim...

[Archetype]

Any suggestions for making this go a bit more easily for everyone?  No one else seems to want to claim...

Ooh! I have some!

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: faust

[2.71828.....]

Vote: Faust

[2.71828.....]

My first hammer! If it goes through....

[EFHW]

I calculate a 2/15 probability of it going through, based on a complicated formula I can't tell you about until tomorrow.

[2.71828.....]

I calculate a 2/15 probability of it going through, based on a complicated formula I can't tell you about until tomorrow.

well I hope it works so you can share your formula. Wait. It is supposed to be lynching you. Hmmmmm. Maybe it won't work.

[ashersky]

No Faust.

[Dsell]

Vote: ehunt

[Voltaire]

I think we all need to do this to help kickstart the POE for the last mafia. If you were curious why I kept being so scummy...Confirm: Archetype

also vote: ehunt

[ashersky]

Voltaire was channeling the spirit of Archetype!

[mcmcsalot]

vote: ehunt

[mcmcsalot]

Sorry they are already dead, Robz? TwistedArcher?

vote: TwistedArcher that might be right

Also dead already.

UGH

xeiron
2.7
chairs
robz
mcmcsalot
faust
yuma

vote: faust

I think we know she's not me.

I'll try ehunt but I bet these are the metas left over, everyone so far has been a meta in the game.

In fact vote: yuma

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.6:

f.ds (1):: eevee
faust (2): Jimmmmm, 2.7
eHunt (2): Dsell, Voltaire
yuma (1): mcmcsalot

Not Voting (2): Voltgloss, EFHW

With 8 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[EFHW]

how many werewolves are left?

[Archetype]

how many werewolves are left?

0 to 8

[EFHW]

just in case you figure out my meta... please don't hammer.  I want to claim at L-1.

[ashersky]

People need to start playing!

[ashersky]

I'm tempted to list all remaining metas in the game.  Would that be something people would support?

Something needs to get this game back into night...

[Jimmmmm]

I'm tempted to list all remaining metas in the game.  Would that be something people would support?

Something needs to get this game back into night...

I'd be okay with it.

Sorry, with all my busyness, the Bastard game has been the one that's lost out.

[Dsell]

Hey I think I can get back into it now!
I've been studying for finals but now that finals are about to happen I amazingly should have more free time.
Why have we not thought of Vote: Galzria?

[Dsell]

I'm tempted to list all remaining metas in the game.  Would that be something people would support?

Something needs to get this game back into night...

Also, I vote no to this.
I agree that we should get this game going again.
But I don't want it to be this, it might make the game too serious!
This is still a bastard game people!!

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Galzria

[ashersky]

Galz died on D2.

[Dsell]

Oops, missed that!!

Vote: yuma?

I'm also ok with ehunt.
Or anybody else I guess.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: yuma

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.7:

f.ds (1):: eevee
faust (1): 2.7
eHunt (1): Voltaire
yuma (3): mcmcsalot, Dsell, Jimmmmm {L-1}

Not Voting (2): Voltgloss, EFHW

With 8 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Voltaire]

vote: yuma

Oh, I can do whatever I want now! No more meta!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR TIMEeEEEeee

[Dsell]

vote: yuma

Oh, I can do whatever I want now! No more meta!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR TIMEeEEEeee

What was your restriction?

[Voltaire]

vote: yuma

Oh, I can do whatever I want now! No more meta!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR TIMEeEEEeee

What was your restriction?

I had a SUPER TINY restriction. I had to misuse a set of words given to me by the mods each day. That was it. 99% of what else I was doing was me researching arch's meta and trying to match it. Because that's the spirit of this game!

Like lurking, and being as scummy as possible while town (no offense Arch!). I misused tons of words on my own that weren't given to me by the mod because it started getting fun. And lurking. It was so hard to lurk!

[ashersky]

Final D5 Vote Count:

f.ds (1):: eevee
faust (1): 2.7
yuma (4): mcmcsalot, Dsell, Jimmmmm, Voltaire

Not Voting (2): Voltgloss, EFHW

With 8 alive, it took 4 to lynch.

[ashersky]

EFHW, the [redacted redacted], has been lynched.  She was channeling the spirit of Yuma!

[ashersky]

Night 5 is on.  Get me night actions, people.

[ashersky]

What's this?  EFHW has resurrected!  It is still night 5.

[ashersky]

Because I'm nice, and in the interest of helping the game:

Dead metas:
Eevee, raerae, Voltgloss, Morgrim7, Voltaire, shraeye, Galzria, Twistedarcher, mail-mi, Jimmmmm, Dsell

Living metas:
Archetype, liopoil, yuma

Confirmed non-existent metas:
sparky, sudgy, insomniac, walrus, f.ds, EFHW, faust

[ashersky]

Also, it is still night 5.  Waiting on one more order.

[ashersky]

Again, no one died.  And again, the game continues...

Day 6, people.

[Voltaire]

Everyone should full-claim their metas in that mod-confirmable way.

vote: yuma

[2.71828.....]

Listen, EFHW, you said you wanted to claim before a lynch at L-1.  How were you supposed to do that unless you were online continuously as we went through different possible metas?  Makes no sense.  You should have claimed when you made that post.  Unless there were post restrictions that prevented you.  But oh wait, after the claim you lose your post restrictions

vote: yuma

or last resurrectee was a werewolf.  I don't believe EFHW could possibly be town.

[2.71828.....]

Lynch All Resurrectees

also, did we inspect: morgrim?

we might want to do that before a lynch.  unvote

[Voltaire]

inspect: morgrim

[Dsell]

Inspect: Morgrim

[Voltaire]

Inspect: Morgrim

You have now posted without claiming your meta. Huge scumread on you.

[Dsell]

Inspect: Morgrim

You have now posted without claiming your meta. Huge scumread on you.

Don't really plan on it.
And here I thought you had some high confidence that I was town?

[Voltaire]

Inspect: Morgrim

You have now posted without claiming your meta. Huge scumread on you.

Don't really plan on it.
And here I thought you had some high confidence that I was town?

You mean when I fakeclaimed a role (when claiming my real role was illegal and would have resulted in a modkill) and the role I claimed is not an investigative role because I was trying to mimic Arch's meta (specifically LOTR2 when he invented a clearing result on scum as town) and to make that obvious I claimed a Governor who had cleared someone?

Yeah, you're scum.

[Dsell]

You don't scare me!
I won't be bullied!
Also I am a very fast runner and I challenge the whole town to catch me!
I used to be a track star and the town hero but you're all turning on me now, it's just not right!

[2.71828.....]

So, we need to figure out Dsell's meta.  Here are some posts:

Nobody quite seems themselves....

Wait, I can lynch myself!!

Vote: Dsell!

Scum can't talk about it with each other either! They are no better off than town! On the contrary, making a list, even if we thought we could get close to being accurate, just tells scum who to target with their kills. I don't know, I don't think it's a good idea. It helps with lynching, maybe, and I suppose there is more to analyze if scum is deliberately choosing their targets rather than guessing, but I don't support it.

Blah blah blah there are lots of good reasons to support this list for town and none against it, but I don't support it.

The reasons against it are actually super strong, but sure!

Plus it's sort of against the spirit of the game.

I'm gonna try to win but I'm not taking this seriously.

Count me out of list building.

This morning, as I was waking up from anxious dreams, I discovered that I had been changed into a monstrous... ashersky!

Guys, I have a plan! We need to find out which meta's are included in the game, and which are not. To do this, we should start bringing players that are unlikely to have their meta included to lynching range. That way we will know for sure that they're not in the game.

Vote: ashersky

I think this is an interesting plan, and I am suprised that so few have talked about it.
We have already started by clearing sparky.
No need to stop there.

vote: ashersky

K so

Ashersky is the mod.

Bastard mod.

Whatever he's doing, I really really doubt he's actually playing the game or tipping the scales for one side or the other.

Hehe, my meta was the "sorry I fell behind" meta.
I have nooooooo idea where this is coming from...
Voltaire, you feel confident that mail-mi's meta is scum?
In the meantime I'm back to vote: insomniac.

Well, I am Glooble and I'm a 1-shot woodcutter (vigilante)!
It's quite an honor as he was an amazing scumbuddy once.
Who should we inspect today?

Inspect: sudgy
Serial killer doctor is a weird role (although I've had something similar)
Sorry, I've had a pretty ridiculous 72 hours.
I should be more free after tomorrow early afternoon.

Inspect: Morgrim

You have now posted without claiming your meta. Huge scumread on you.

Don't really plan on it.
And here I thought you had some high confidence that I was town?

Who writes in short lines.  exclamation points, the whole 9 yards

PPE: plus that last post. 

[Voltaire]

xeiron does lines, but not capitals. So probably not him.

[Dsell]

Ah, it's interesting that you would point that out. You see, I may be a bit of a chameleon but ultimately I'm just here to have a bit of fun. It's really a shame that you would all choose to string up such a pillar of this town, but like I told you-I'm fast! I can't say that I wish you the best of luck because for those of you that are indeed true and good townies you will be making a huge mistake. Nonetheless, you seem set on your course and I won't try to stop you. I may, however, point out significantly better options-like EFHyuma, who already refused to claim her meta and then resurrected quite suspiciously-and work towards lynching those candidates, or as it's more commonly known, play the game as a townie. Still, I cannot help but protest these hurtful words aiming to malign my character!

[2.71828.....]

vote: Ozle

[Voltaire]

vote: Ozle

Don't we want to lynch EFHW/yuma first?

[Dsell]

Vote: Yuma because I was forgetting!

[2.71828.....]

I mean, I have not been around long enough to really know Ozle's meta, but.....

I dispute I ever offered anyone a hug!
That doesn't sound like me at all!

"If modkill is out, I can lead an ashersky lynch.  That is the other way to prove my innocence."


Also, YAAAAAWNNNNN
You promised this last game day as well didnt you.
What happened then?
You didn't follow through with it did you.

Boy who cried wolf much?

Im sorry, this is just ridiculous.

Slow down there man.

Sure it makes you look a little bit scummy for you knowing about the key, but theres not a lynch charge coming at you over it is there, no ones even voting for you
.
It's minor scumminess points at best.

You start calling up modkillings and self lynches, thats just terrible for town if you are town.

Waaaay over reaction on your part here.


Someone points out that you could have been lying in a game of Mafia, shock horror, thats what Mafia in these games do, they make up stuff to make themselves look townie.

[2.71828.....]

oh yeah.

I want to get the inspection back first though, so I will wait to put EFHW/yuma at L-1

[Voltaire]

Oh. Ozle it is then.

94% sure both Dsell and EFHW are scum.

[mcmcsalot]

inspect: morgrim

Vote: Yuma


Staying true to my posting restriction is too fun, if needed I will claim but I don't want to if I don't have to.

I am also pretty sure I know dsell's meta

[ashersky]

Vote Count 6.1:

yuma (3): Voltaire, Dsell, mcmcsalot {L-1}
Ozle (1): 2.7

Not Voting (4): Voltgloss, EFHW, Jimmmmm, Eevee

With 8 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.



Day 6 Corpse Inspection:

morgrim (4): 2.7, Voltaire, Dsell, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (4): Voltgloss, EFHW, Jimmmmm, Eevee

[ashersky]

You look at the rotting corpse of Morgrim.  He's hairy, but mafia-aligned!

[2.71828.....]

ok.  vote: yuma

[2.71828.....]

HAMMER!!!!!!

(my first ever)

[EFHW]

I can't believe you lynched me.  I'm a werewolf now, as you should have known from morgrim's alignment switch.  AND I asked to claim last time, which you didn't allow me to do.  Werewolves deserve to lose this game. 

[EFHW]

really really pissed.

[ashersky]

Final Day 6 Vote Count:

yuma (4): Voltaire, Dsell, mcmcsalot, 2.7

Not Voting (4): Voltgloss, EFHW, Jimmmmm, Eevee

With 8 alive, it took 4 to lynch.

[ashersky]

Thread not locked at this very moment.

[EFHW]

you didn't even wait for me to get on.  I hadn't posted one time, actually at work.  classy of you.

[Voltaire]

I can't believe you lynched me.  I'm a werewolf now, as you should have known from morgrim's alignment switch.  AND I asked to claim last time, which you didn't allow me to do.  Werewolves deserve to lose this game.

So we got it right, is what you're saying.

[ashersky]

You all lynched EFHW...again.  She was yuma, the Mafia Vampire, who had resurrected herself as a Werewolf!  But she's dead.

[ashersky]

Night 6 starts now.

[ashersky]

Night 6 ended in much the same way as others...with no one dying.

With 7 players left alive, we've reached an endgame situation!  But, there's a way for everyone still alive to win!  So, to be as BM as possible, I will not announce the winners yet, and will instead allow Day 7 to last 24 hours for you to figure it out.

(Hint: it starts with mass claiming.)

[ashersky]

Vote Count 7.0:

Not Voting (7): Voltgloss, Voltaire, Dsell, mcmcsalot, 2.7, Jimmmmm, Eevee

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Voltaire]

I assume the cult grew. I'm still not in it!

[Dsell]

I haven't seen evidence of a cult, really!
I really don't want to claim because I feel like you'd just lynch me and I'm town...
However I will consider it if we commit to the plan to let everyone alive win.

[ashersky]

Hello?

[mcmcsalot]

Whooooooooooo! I will mass claim later we all did great.

[2.71828.....]

Whooooooooooo! I will mass claim later we all did great.

I have already claimed, but let's not quicklynch anyone this time. Some people didn't even post D6

[Eevee]

whats.. happening? who won?

[2.71828.....]

So, according to Voltaire we have town, cult, and maybe one other faction? But at least town and cult. Dsell seems like he could be town. So I don't want to immediately go after ozle, if that is who he is.

[2.71828.....]

I would really like to get voltgloss today. But I doubt he claims. In fact, I doubt he posts.

[mcmcsalot]

Night 6 ended in much the same way as others...with no one dying.

With 7 players left alive, we've reached an endgame situation!  But, there's a way for everyone still alive to win!  So, to be as BM as possible, I will not announce the winners yet, and will instead allow Day 7 to last 24 hours for you to figure it out.

(Hint: it starts with mass claiming.)

Ash said that mod text is PINL

So here is the way I see us winning.

Jimm/myself/eevee/2.7 are in a cult, we can lynch voltaire and dsell, or we can no lynch and they can join the cult. At least I assume, Jimm would need to tell us more, he's the cult leader.

I believe we would also need to lynch voltgloss, guessing hes town. So we would lynch voltgloss, and invite voltaire and dsell to the cult, they join and we all win as cult.
So we shouldn't lynch anyone unless we know everyone wins.

well the only way I can see everyone wins is if we no lynch and let everyone join the cult, I am assuming this means the cult has an advantage and could lynch the remaining town to win or can invite the remaining town players to the cult.

[Voltaire]

That seems reasonable. 

Of course I hope you're lying. Cults are too bastard even for bastard IMO. 

[Jimmmmm]

Jimm/myself/eevee/2.7 are in a cult, we can lynch voltaire and dsell, or we can no lynch and they can join the cult. At least I assume, Jimm would need to tell us more, he's the cult leader.

It looks like you've been paying much better attention to this game than I have! Good work! What do you want to do?

[2.71828.....]

The cult already controls town.  We have 4 people.  7 alive.  We can do whatever we want.  So Voltaire, join or die.  If you want to win you will join.  Mafiology is a great teaching and I have learned more than I could imagine under the teachings of the Grand Master of Mafiology and Hidden Cult Leader Jimmmmmm. 

And I do not necessarily think we actually do not need to lynch Voltgloss if he is town.  The cult already has a majority.  So we (the cult-yes I am in the cult.  Initiated during N2) have won just as Ashersky said.  Town members can win too by accepting the invitation from our Grand Master of Mafiology.  Town members who have not been invited need to full claim so that way Jimmmmm can invite them into the cult.  Since he must invite metas, he needs to know who you are so you need to claim.

So my strategy: Join the cult or get lynched.  If you are town and haven't recieved an invitation, full claim so Jimmmm can invite you tonight.  We no-lynch, then we all win.  Although I still like the idea of going through and lynching Voltgloss.  I don't think he should win

[Voltaire]

So do you need to invite me again? Can you? Can I join the cult even though I already declined an invitation (two days ago or something)? If not just lynch me.

[mcmcsalot]

So do you need to invite me again? Can you? Can I join the cult even though I already declined an invitation (two days ago or something)? If not just lynch me.

Ash said all living players can win, so you must be able to accept. I agree lynching voltgloss is good because I don't think he should win.

[mcmcsalot]

Jimm/myself/eevee/2.7 are in a cult, we can lynch voltaire and dsell, or we can no lynch and they can join the cult. At least I assume, Jimm would need to tell us more, he's the cult leader.

It looks like you've been paying much better attention to this game than I have! Good work! What do you want to do?

well you know my meta, I had to!

[2.71828.....]

So do you need to invite me again? Can you? Can I join the cult even though I already declined an invitation (two days ago or something)? If not just lynch me.

Ash said all living players can win, so you must be able to accept. I agree lynching voltgloss is good because I don't think he should win.

Well, I wouldn't consider the cult a "threat to town" so I actually think that town might be able to win without joining the cult.  They just aren't as cool as we are.  They have no faith in mafiology. 

Also, I have no clue who voltgloss is and he isnt around to claim so it will just be a huge POE until we hit it correctly.  Dsell, if you don't want us to "accidentally" lynch you along the way, you better claim.

Unless, can we lynch Voltgloss by voting "voltgloss" because he is not around and I don't want to try to POE him?

and, can town win even though they are not a part of the cult?

[Voltaire]

Did any of you cult members start out as scum?

[ashersky]

You can only lynch Voltgloss by lynching his meta.  Remember, I'm not even counting him towards win conditions.

A Cult, if it existed in a game, is a threat to Town, as far as Town win conditions go.

[2.71828.....]

You can only lynch Voltgloss by lynching his meta.  Remember, I'm not even counting him towards win conditions.

A Cult, if it existed in a game, is a threat to Town, as far as Town win conditions go.

Well, Voltaire, looks like you will be joining the cult tonight.

I was town before joining the cult

[Eevee]

i was town, jumped over to the cult immediately upon being invited.

[Jimmmmm]

Okay, volunteers to join the Cult? Please bold your request and confirm your meta. Then we no-lynch. I'm happy to share the victory with everyone!

[ashersky]

Get to it, day will end soon.

[Voltaire]

Already claimed.

[Dsell]

Pass the kool-aid I guess, but not until tomorrow. Recruit Voltaire tonight and I'll claim.

[2.71828.....]

Pass the kool-aid I guess, but not until tomorrow. Recruit Voltaire tonight and I'll claim.

Anti-cult behavior from Dsell.  Let's lynch him.  Or he can claim.  today

vote: ozle

[2.71828.....]

Already claimed.

That is also anti-cult because he didn't bold a request to join the cult.  After Jimmmmm told him to.

vote: archetype is guaranteed

actually

unvote

Jimmmmm, tell me who to vote for

[Dsell]

I can claim today in twilight after lynching Voltaire if you'd prefer.

[Voltaire]

I can claim today in twilight after lynching Voltaire if you'd prefer.

Why am I getting lynched now all of the sudden? I'm the one who has claimed my meta already!

[2.71828.....]

I can claim today in twilight after lynching Voltaire if you'd prefer.

Why am I getting lynched now all of the sudden? I'm the one who has claimed my meta already!

I don't want to lynch either of you, but we can't let this longer on. And on. I think Dsell is ozle. Let's run ozle up to L-1, give Dsell 2 hours or so (with a margin of error. Basically by tonight) claim, then lynch that meta.

However, if that doesn't work, we lynch Voltaire unless you go and request to join as jimmmm directed you.

That is my plan.

This is my vote

Vote: ozle

[2.71828.....]

I can claim today in twilight after lynching Voltaire if you'd prefer.

Why am I getting lynched now all of the sudden? I'm the one who has claimed my meta already!

I don't want to lynch either of you, but we can't let this longer on. And on. I think Dsell is ozle. Let's run ozle up to L-1, give Dsell 2 hours or so (with a margin of error. Basically by tonight) claim, then lynch that meta.

However, if that doesn't work, we lynch Voltaire unless you go and request to join as jimmmm directed you.

That is my plan.

This is my vote

Vote: ozle

linger on. Not longer on. Sorry the swipe keyboard went auto to longer

[Voltaire]

However, if that doesn't work, we lynch Voltaire unless you go and request to join as jimmmm directed you.

That is my plan.

This is my vote

Vote: ozle

Geez, you really want to lynch be because I forgot to bold something? request for unfulfilling victory in with cult

[2.71828.....]

However, if that doesn't work, we lynch Voltaire unless you go and request to join as jimmmm directed you.

That is my plan.

This is my vote

Vote: ozle

Geez, you really want to lynch be because I forgot to bold something? request for unfulfilling victory in with cult

mafiology, as far as I understand is a very strict cult. Well, not really. Now let's lynch Dsell for a very fulfilling cult victory.

[Voltaire]

vote: ozle

[mcmcsalot]

vote: ozle

I'm down, vote: 0zzle

[ashersky]

As mentioned, the game is already over.

A "no lynch" today and the successful recruitment of BoxofDOG and Archetype would have allowed for everyone to win.  As it is...

The Cult of Ashersky wins!  The Cult was:

2.7, as liopoil, the Town Scattershot Healer
Eevee, as mcmcsalot, the Town Scattershot Firefighter
mcmcsalot, as Robz888, the Tabloid Reporter

and led by:

Jimmmmm, as ashersky, the Hidden Cult Leader

Dsell, who was BoxofDOG, the Town Coroner, and Voltaire, who was Archetype, the Werewolf Janitor, have been endgamed!

Voltgloss was No Lynch, the Arsonist.

[ashersky]

Mod QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/MP6Dh8EkfiXRY
Spectator QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/HV28JFybZPK
Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/qDJ5rMEsMKDe
Werewolf QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/xUnBJ63qEWpy
Brainstorming QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/kHJpeP5MhdM (includes role PMs)

[2.71828.....]

Should have known something was not quite right about Voltaire

[Voltaire]

So, where the heck did our night kills disappear to most nights...*reading*

[2.71828.....]

I scattershot protected my fellow cultists every night after I was initiated. But it only protected from  magic

[Voltaire]

Reading the speccy...I think I didn't spend any time thinking/working about setup because it all felt so bastard...returning from the dead, alignment changing, a GD cult...what would be the point? So I just focused on doing my meta and lynching people.

[ashersky]

Magic was werewolf kill flavor.  Poison was the mafia.

[ashersky]

Reading the speccy...I think I didn't spend any time thinking/working about setup because it all felt so bastard...returning from the dead, alignment changing, a GD cult...what would be the point? So I just focused on doing my meta and lynching people.

I'm cool with that take on the game.

It was more that, if a player wanted to win, or a faction wanted to win, focusing on solving the setup and roles was going to get you there more often than random lynches, which is what we mostly amounted to.

As for the WW kills, most of them were on metas not in the game.  You often were making good kills, but changed them.  One night, you had lio/2.7 as your target, he wasn't using his one-shot selfsavd, but you switched to someone else.  Another night you always NKed a EFHW but didn't.

[ashersky]

Also, all but two roles were assigned completely at random.

Jimmmmm rolled his own meta, so I traded his with Faust.

[ashersky]

Also, all but two roles were assigned completely at random.

Jimmmmm rolled his own meta, so I traded his with Faust.

"No Lynch, the Arsonist" and "Robz, the Tabloid Reporter" were the only two metas +roles that were pre-linked.  Everything else was random.

[Voltaire]

So apparently some of the stuff I thought was invented wasn't? I'm searching "scattershot" on the mafia wiki and it's not showing up. What is it?

[ashersky]

So apparently some of the stuff I thought was invented wasn't? I'm searching "scattershot" on the mafia wiki and it's not showing up. What is it?

It meant they could target three people.  I don't know if there's a real name for that.  The doctors were all weaker than they sound, as they could only stop one type of kill, and they could only protect town (of whom there were only 5 total).

[ashersky]

Here's the full set-up:

sudgy is Eevee, the Town Scattershot Poison Doctor (rotation: mafia, werewolf, SK)
2.7 is liopoil, the Town Scattershot Healer (rotation: werewolf, SK, mafia)
Eevee is mcmcsalot, the Town Scattershot Firefighter (rotation: SK, mafia, werewolf)
Dsell is BoxofDOG, the Town Coroner

chairs is Morgrim7, the Mafia Suicidal Goon
Robz is shraeye, the Mafia Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber
Twistedarcher was Galzria, the Mafia's Beloved Princess (Elected to become a Vanilla Townie)
EFHW is yuma, the Mafia Vampire
xeiron is Voltgloss, the Mafia Janitor

liopoil is Twistedarcher, the Werewolf Suicidal Goon
Walrus is Voltaire, the Werewolf Compulsive D2 Suicide Bomber
mail-mi is raerae, the Werewolves' Beloved Princess
Morgrim7 is mail-mi, the Werewolf Vampire
Voltaire is Archetype, the Werewolf Janitor

Voltgloss is No Lynch, the Arsonist
faust is Jimmmmm, the Jester
mcmcsalot is Robz888, the Tabloid Reporter
Jimmmmm is ashersky, the Hidden Cult Leader

[ashersky]

All scum had the option at role confirmation stage to become VTs instead of scum.  Only TA took the offer.

[ashersky]

Yuma's deprogrammer role was actually an error caused by counting Jimmmmm's /in twice.  So I wrote 19 roles and metas instead of 18.  After I rerolled the game (without Dsell, the Deprogrammer), I assigned it to yuma anyway, as redacted.  Until he asked to play, he couldn't do anything and would not have had any effect on the game.

[ashersky]

Voltaire has the right of it, overall.  This basically had every "false" or "bastard" role possible in it.  It played like a crazy RMM game with built-in lying mechanics.

The three town doctors were "rotating death millers" so the rotation listed by their name was their flip alignment every game state (D1, N1, D2, etc.).

[Dsell]

My coroner did nothing ever except show that Sudgy was town rather than a SK. Sooooo did town have any chance at all? 5 townies in 18 players? Really?

[Dsell]

All scum had the option at role confirmation stage to become VTs instead of scum.  Only TA took the offer.

Why did they have this option?

[Voltaire]

Was your posting and saying "lynch ashersky" a way to try to deal with the cult? Just curious, it struck me as strange (obviously) at the time.

[Twistedarcher]

My coroner did nothing ever except show that Sudgy was town rather than a SK. Sooooo did town have any chance at all? 54-14 townies in 18 players? Really?

[Dsell]

My coroner did nothing ever except show that Sudgy was town rather than a SK. Sooooo did town have any chance at all? 54-14 townies in 18 players? Really?

Ok sure that was possible but that wasn't the game.

[Voltaire]

My coroner did nothing ever except show that Sudgy was town rather than a SK. Sooooo did town have any chance at all? 54-14 townies in 18 players? Really?

Ok sure that was possible but that wasn't the game.

Well, it's a bastard game, so it does seem fine to me.

[Dsell]

My coroner did nothing ever except show that Sudgy was town rather than a SK. Sooooo did town have any chance at all? 54-14 townies in 18 players? Really?

Ok sure that was possible but that wasn't the game.

Well, it's a bastard game, so it does seem fine to me.

Far be it from me to complain about bastard games but still...ugh

I do think that I was still a long, long way from being lynched or NK'd though (which was really what I was playing towards at the end)

[2.71828.....]

My coroner did nothing ever except show that Sudgy was town rather than a SK. Sooooo did town have any chance at all? 54-14 townies in 18 players? Really?

Ok sure that was possible but that wasn't the game.

Well, it's a bastard game, so it does seem fine to me.

Far be it from me to complain about bastard games but still...ugh

I do think that I was still a long, long way from being lynched or NK'd though (which was really what I was playing towards at the end)

yeah it would have taken forever to guess box

[Voltaire]

With Voltgloss's meta, I see I was sorta on the right track with my vote: f.ds thinking...ish.

[ashersky]

Was your posting and saying "lynch ashersky" a way to try to deal with the cult? Just curious, it struck me as strange (obviously) at the time.

That was Faust.  Both Faust and mcmc were "reporters" which is a role that gets to speak through the mod.  That's why I differentiated between "mod" text and not.

My coroner did nothing ever except show that Sudgy was town rather than a SK. Sooooo did town have any chance at all? 5 townies in 18 players? Really?

I think so.  They were the same size as the scum factions, with the possibility of larger numbers.  They had no kill, but could keep each other alive.  Scum had 4 built in D2 deaths with 2x suicidals and 2x suicide bombers.

The Coroner would have had more to do had the Janitors survived/killed more.

[mail-mi]

Where are the meta descriptions?!? I couldn't find them.

[ashersky]

Where are the meta descriptions?!? I couldn't find them.

In the Brainstorming QT.


Everyone can quote their PMs here, too.

[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14, Jimmmmm. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.


You are ashersky. An f.ds veteran, you have one of the most well-known metas around. A hothead, but a sly player, you can get away with almost anything. Your meta comes with two restrictions. Firstly, on Day 1, you must come up with and propose a plan. Great plan, terrible plan, doesn't really matter. Just make sure it's a topic of conversation. Secondly, if you gain any suspicion whatsoever, you must self-vote. That means voting for your own playername in anger, not voting for ashersky.


You are the Hidden Cult Leader. Each night, you may submit two metas to recruit to your Cult. If you submit a meta which exists in the game, they will be offered an option to join “The Cult.” They will not know which player or meta is the Cult Leader. They may may opt to commit to the Cult (and share your win condition), reject the Cult (and retain their own win condition), or think things through (delaying their choice by one game phase). In all cases, you will not be told if you were successful.


At the end of each night, via PM to the mod, you may send one message to all current Cult members.


You win when the Cult controls the town.

[Voltaire]

Was your posting and saying "lynch ashersky" a way to try to deal with the cult? Just curious, it struck me as strange (obviously) at the time.

That was Faust.  Both Faust and mcmc were "reporters" which is a role that gets to speak through the mod.  That's why I differentiated between "mod" text and not.

OH!

*concept*
my head

[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14, redacted. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.  Also, you aren't actually playing, but if you were, this would have been your role.  Also also, if you decide to join later, you already have a role!  But shhhh, it's a secret!

You are Dsell. You used to play a lot, but disappeared for awhile, then resurfaced. You are always scum. No really, always. And you prefer it that way. You like QTs, and planning, and triumphing over the majority. You tend to fall behind in big games, whether because of lurking or real life. You'll often promise to catch up, and then not. You are also a master of bringing suspicion upon an unsuspecting townie. Your meta comes with a posting restriction. You must frame a townie with a scumslip during the day. Find something someone says and present it to everyone as a scumslip. Argue strongly for it. Believe it. Also, at least once during the game, promise to catch up, then don't.

You are the Town Deprogrammer. Each night, you may target up to two metas.  If any metas you target are in the game AND are "Cultists," they will revert to their original role. You will not be told if you are successful.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. No member of town needs to be alive for town to win.

[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14, mcmcsalot. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.

You are Robz888. The only player on f.ds to play in every single normal game, you are well-known to all. Your D1s are famously lacksadaisical, your later days are intense and spot on. You are dangerous as scum, and probably just as dangerous as town. Your meta comes with two posting restrictions. On Day 1, you must make multiple posts strongly telling everyone that vigs should not shoot on N1. Also on Day 1, you should seem to not care about anything else, and if people start voting for you (your real player name), act like you care even less. You may never use emoticons.

You are the Tabloid Reporter. Throughout the day, you may post messages in thread, as often as you like, through the mod, Archetype. To use this power, PM Archetype with the exact text you want posted. Archetype will post that text verbatim (unless it breaks a rule) in the game thread. These posts will be posted as received, whenever the mod is online. If multiple posts are waiting in Archetype’s inbox, he will post them successively, in the order they were received.

You win when all town-aligned players are dead, and you are still alive. If you die before that happens, or town meets its win condition while you are living, you lose. For the purposes of Town’s win condition, you are not a threat.

[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14, faust. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.

You are Jimmmmm. A student from down under, you are impossible to rattle when you are playing a mafia game. You are calm, like a zen master, and it has served you well as scum. You have a tendency to lean toward the lighthearted while town, and will play more seriously as scum. Your meta has a posting restriction. You must post that you will be VLA for a school-related (university) reason each day you are alive. It can be for a few hours or a day, it doesn't matter. You must also criticize the vote counts as not being accurate enough.

You are the Jester. Also, throughout the day, you may post messages in thread, as often as you like, through the mod, ashersky. To use this power, PM ashersky with the exact text you want posted. ashersky will post that text verbatim (unless it breaks a rule) in the game thread. These posts will be posted as received, whenever the mod is online. If multiple posts are waiting in ashersky’s inbox, he will post them successively, in the order they were received.

You win when you are lynched, and only when you are lynched. If you are alive when any other faction wins, you lose.

[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14, Eevee. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.

You are mcmcsalot. First, you were just Robz's brother. Then, you were the undefeated scum player. Now, you're too busy to dedicate yourself fully to the game, but you still love it too much to sit out. You lurk, too much, and it usually costs you, even when you have an awesome town power. When you do post, you might post in a hurry, from a phone or a party. If you are scum, you will spend noticeably more time playing. Your meta comes with a posting restriction. You must apologize for lurking at least once a day. It doesn't matter if you've actually been lurking, but the post needs to be a clear apology. Also, you must strongly argue that scum would do something specific in the game. That "something" may be anything you choose, but you must try to convince everyone that it is something that scum specifically would want to do in this set up.

You are the Town Scattershot Firefighter. Each night, you may name up to three players. Any town members you name will be protected from fire. Once, and only once, you may include yourself in your protection.

You are also a Rotating Death Miller. When you die, your flip will falsely indicate that you were scum. What type of scum is pre-determined, and changes each game phase.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. No member of town needs to be alive for town to win.

[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14, Dsell. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.

You are BoxofDOG. A relative newbie, you’ve been in a few games now, including the one that must not be named. You’re known as a hothead, quick to respond to any suspicion or pointed finger. You are a self-admitted emotional player, and have said publically that you can’t separate the emotion from your game. You are sly and have a crooked sense of humor which plays well in BM setups, especially. Your meta comes with a posting restriction. If anyone calls you, or your behavior, scummy, you must respond with emotional outrage. At least half of your posts should be a series of short sentences, each starting on a new line.

You are the Town Coroner. Each night, you may target a dead player. You will learn that player’s true alignment and role.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated. No member of town needs to be alive for town to win.

[ashersky]

Welcome to BM14, chairs. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.

You are Morgrim7. A blast from the past, you recently rejoined the land of the f.ds living. Your mind is a minefield full of treasure, impossible to navigate safely but irresistable nonetheless. Dragonspawngobblelinkocarinasmash. You may be a boat. In the end, you are definitely crazy. Your meta comes with a posting restriction. At least half of your posts may not make any sense. Also, vote without rhyme or reason, as often as possible. Try to be the hammer vote every day.

You are the Suicidal Mafia Goon. At the end of Day 2, if you are still alive, you will commit suicide. Nothing can stop this from happening.

You win when Mafia controls the town, or nothing can stop that from happening.

In your confirmation PM to the mods, you may opt to become a Vanilla Townie. If you do, you will receive a new win condition.

[ashersky]

There's a few.  Maybe others can post theirs.  I'll post the rest when I have time.

[Archetype]

But Mcmcsalot only used his power like twice so that was lame.

[Voltaire]

Before posting, please post your top three highest scumreads.

This is the post of the game, in my opinion.

[mail-mi]

OMGOSH loved my meta description. Loved them all, really.

[ashersky]

OMGOSH loved my meta description. Loved them all, really.

Thanks.  It was definitely the most "work" of designing the game.  I wanted them to be accurate, but exaggerated at the same time.  The point was to be funny and obvious, if possible, but get in some inside jokes (Jimmmm on vote counts, for example) as well.  It was a lot of fun, but also a lot of work.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Well done all and many thanks to the mods! It was a truly entertaining game to watch and play.

[mcmcsalot]

So you said when joining the cult it have an additional win con, did I technically win with my original win con as well. I am alive an town lost.

[ashersky]

So you said when joining the cult it have an additional win con, did I technically win with my original win con as well. I am alive an town lost.

No, you kept your original role and alignment, but your win con changed.  Just one win for you.

[mcmcsalot]

So you said when joining the cult it have an additional win con, did I technically win with my original win con as well. I am alive an town lost.

No, you kept your original role and alignment, but your win con changed.  Just one win for you.

Darn

Wanna play dominion?

[Dsell]

Wow, the Role PMs are awesome! I'm excited to see the rest of them!

[Jimmmmm]

Hey we won! Thanks ash for modding. Sorry I didn't give this game the attention it deserved - I realised halfway through Day 1 that everyone was simply following their allocated meta and so actual scumhunting would be all but impossible. I only had a certain amount of free time, and I had other games to focus on. Really interesting to read people's metas!

[mail-mi]

I especially liked the ending of this game: the two most BM alignments win!

[Robz888]

Welcome to BM14, mcmcsalot. Your Role PM is broken down into two parts, your meta and your role.

You are Robz888. The only player on f.ds to play in every single normal game, you are well-known to all. Your D1s are famously lacksadaisical, your later days are intense and spot on. You are dangerous as scum, and probably just as dangerous as town. Your meta comes with two posting restrictions. On Day 1, you must make multiple posts strongly telling everyone that vigs should not shoot on N1. Also on Day 1, you should seem to not care about anything else, and if people start voting for you (your real player name), act like you care even less. You may never use emoticons.

You are the Tabloid Reporter. Throughout the day, you may post messages in thread, as often as you like, through the mod, Archetype. To use this power, PM Archetype with the exact text you want posted. Archetype will post that text verbatim (unless it breaks a rule) in the game thread. These posts will be posted as received, whenever the mod is online. If multiple posts are waiting in Archetype’s inbox, he will post them successively, in the order they were received.

You win when all town-aligned players are dead, and you are still alive. If you die before that happens, or town meets its win condition while you are living, you lose. For the purposes of Town’s win condition, you are not a threat.

Love this, ash! Great job.