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[Robz888]

Okay, well kill me, this day can be over whenever you all wish.

Tomorrow, LYNCH VOLTAIRE. Next day, LYNCH TEPROC.

[Robz888]

^^But to repeat, I'm not as sure about Teproc, I don't have as good a feel for him. Think about that one, although I bet it's Teproc.

Voltaire should be auto-lynched tomorrow.

[mcmcsalot]

^^But to repeat, I'm not as sure about Teproc, I don't have as good a feel for him. Think about that one, although I bet it's Teproc.

Voltaire should be auto-lynched tomorrow.

Okay so do we think scum!robz is brave enough to be dead set on throwing his scum partner under the bus? This makes it hard to believe robz/volt is the scum team.

[mcmcsalot]

I am not sure rob is the best lynch today, he way volt reacted was scummy simply because I have not seen him do that.

[Voltaire]

I am not sure rob is the best lynch today, he way volt reacted was scummy simply because I have not seen him do that.

Have not seen me do what?

[mcmcsalot]

I am not sure rob is the best lynch today, he way volt reacted was scummy simply because I have not seen him do that.

Have not seen me do what?

Omgus and get semi riled up.

[Jimmmmm]

Also, I despise the case against me. "He's acting weird, it doesn't sit right with me, he's too whatever." Oh no, you caught me!

I fully believe the case against you is significantly better than any you've presented against Volt and/or Teproc.

[Robz888]

Okay.

[Voltaire]

I am not sure rob is the best lynch today, he way volt reacted was scummy simply because I have not seen him do that.

Have not seen me do what?

Omgus and get semi riled up.

Really? Take a look at Toy Story D2, or D1 of Clue. It's not common, but it happens.

[Jimmmmm]

Also, I despise the case against me. "He's acting weird, it doesn't sit right with me, he's too whatever." Oh no, you caught me!

I fully believe the case against you is significantly better than any you've presented against Volt and/or Teproc.

Which of course doesn't mean you're scum, it means that if you're Town there's a lot more that you could be saying than to auto-lynch Volt Tomorrow and quoting what you've already said.

[Robz888]

Also, I despise the case against me. "He's acting weird, it doesn't sit right with me, he's too whatever." Oh no, you caught me!

I fully believe the case against you is significantly better than any you've presented against Volt and/or Teproc.

[Twistedarcher]

Vote Count 3.8

Voltaire (1): Robz
Robz (3): Jimmmmm, Voltaire, Walrus (L-2)

Not Voting (4): Teproc, manda, mcmcsalot, 2.7

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day3 will end December 27 at 8:00 pm forum time. (10 days + 2 for Christmas)
That's in 25 hours!

[2.71828.....]

thanks for the bump, TA. 

We need to get this rolling again.  under 24 hours.

vote: teproc

The biggest reason I had a town read on him was because he voted Ashersky before Walrus came through and made his claim.  Upon rereading, I no longer think that is enough to push him town in my mind.  The stuff Robz has mentioned against him make me comfortable with my vote right now

[mcmcsalot]

thanks for the bump, TA. 

We need to get this rolling again.  under 24 hours.

vote: teproc

The biggest reason I had a town read on him was because he voted Ashersky before Walrus came through and made his claim.  Upon rereading, I no longer think that is enough to push him town in my mind.  The stuff Robz has mentioned against him make me comfortable with my vote right now

What do you think about robz volt being the scum team?

[Teproc]

vote: teproc

The biggest reason I had a town read on him was because he voted Ashersky before Walrus came through and made his claim.  Upon rereading, I no longer think that is enough to push him town in my mind.  The stuff Robz has mentioned against him make me comfortable with my vote right now

So, Robz's arguments against me are essentially that I've kept the lynch pool as open as possible (which includes scummying up PRs), right ?

Keeping the lynch pool open is true, and I understand how it seems scummy, but I just tend to be a bit paranoid. In GoT I excluded a scum team from my reasoning on day 3 through PoE, and guess what, that was the scum team, so I'm wary of PoE. That's also why I've tried not to accept claims as gospel, but that's a bogus accusation on Robz's part anyway, since he's done it at least as much as I have. I guess scum would try to scummy up PRs, but I also think town should take a careful stance regarding "IC" claimants, so I don't think it's indicative of alignment in and of itself.

I'll reread Robz soon (tomorrow morning for me) since I'm still not convinced by his "case" on Voltaire, and it seems like he's the main lynch candidate right now.

[2.71828.....]

thanks for the bump, TA. 

We need to get this rolling again.  under 24 hours.

vote: teproc

The biggest reason I had a town read on him was because he voted Ashersky before Walrus came through and made his claim.  Upon rereading, I no longer think that is enough to push him town in my mind.  The stuff Robz has mentioned against him make me comfortable with my vote right now

What do you think about robz volt being the scum team?

It is intriguing, but I doubt it.  That would mean Ash/Robz or Ash/Volt were drawn as a scum team and you are telling me that they would recruit?  Now, it is not a guarantee that scum recruited, but if all claims are true I find it very likely that they did.  Now, do you see Robz/Volt recruiting someone who turns out to be Ash?  Maybe, but again, I do not think they would have recruited.  Now, it makes more sense to me saying that teproc/robz or teproc/voltaire recruited.  The common factor there is Teproc. 

I know this depends a lot on how scum would choose their PRs.  So this is speculative reasoning, but I think it is good speculation.

[mcmcsalot]

Also maybe this will help

Would lynch: robz, volt, teproc
Want to lynch: volt

This is also my thinking, I doubt robz teproc is the scum team, if volt is town my guess is robz/2.7 are scum, if volt is scum robz or teproc are probably the other one.

Ppe: I see what our saying and understand. This makes me more okay with lynching teproc but I'm just not sure.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I just think it would be weird to lynch Teproc given the results me and Jimmmmm obtained. That's harder evidence than anything else we've got right now.

Maybe later, and I appreciate the analysis. But he's not in my lynch pool today.

[Jimmmmm]

I just think it would be weird to lynch Teproc given the results me and Jimmmmm obtained. That's harder evidence than anything else we've got right now.

Maybe later, and I appreciate the analysis. But he's not in my lynch pool today.

[Voltaire]

I just think it would be weird to lynch Teproc given the results me and Jimmmmm obtained. That's harder evidence than anything else we've got right now.

Maybe later, and I appreciate the analysis. But he's not in my lynch pool today.

This. And on a gut level, this:

Keeping the lynch pool open is true, and I understand how it seems scummy, but I just tend to be a bit paranoid. In GoT I excluded a scum team from my reasoning on day 3 through PoE, and guess what, that was the scum team, so I'm wary of PoE. That's also why I've tried not to accept claims as gospel, but that's a bogus accusation on Robz's part anyway, since he's done it at least as much as I have. I guess scum would try to scummy up PRs, but I also think town should take a careful stance regarding "IC" claimants, so I don't think it's indicative of alignment in and of itself.

reads very towny to me.

Would lynch: Robz, mcmc, Teproc, manda
Want to lynch: Robz

So does anyone need me to convince them on Robz? The deadline's tomorrow.

[2.71828.....]

I will be gone all tomorrow morning and will probably not be as focused here until after Time War goes into night (5:30 deadline as opposed to the 8:00 deadline).  I like my vote where it is right now.  Might consider moving it as we near deadline in order to get a lynch.

The #1 priority here is that we get a lynch.  We need a lynch.  I will absolutely not let us deadline out without a lynch if I can in any way prevent that from happening.

[Jimmmmm]

I will be gone all tomorrow morning and will probably not be as focused here until after Time War goes into night (5:30 deadline as opposed to the 8:00 deadline).  I like my vote where it is right now.  Might consider moving it as we near deadline in order to get a lynch.

The #1 priority here is that we get a lynch.  We need a lynch.  I will absolutely not let us deadline out without a lynch if I can in any way prevent that from happening.

I agree. No-lynch should happen, but not Today.

[manda2014]

Here's the thing about Robz currently.... his defense of himself is SO BAD. I mean honestly, reference to personal meta, sarcasm, and then throwing your hands up in defeat? That is not a defense at all. I like to think scum would try a little harder to stay alive, so either: he's town, playing like town OR he's scum framing himself as town. The reference to his own meta makes the second option seem much more likely.

[Robz888]

You should absolutely lynch. I will vote for myself if that's what it takes. Better for me to be lynched and have you figure out that you can trust me and should listen to me, than No Lynch. Better still just to lynch Voltaire.

[Robz888]

Here's the thing about Robz currently.... his defense of himself is SO BAD. I mean honestly, reference to personal meta, sarcasm, and then throwing your hands up in defeat? That is not a defense at all. I like to think scum would try a little harder to stay alive, so either: he's town, playing like town OR he's scum framing himself as town. The reference to his own meta makes the second option seem much more likely.

Does it really, though?