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[mcmcsalot]

The Unclaimed:

Voltaire
Robz
manda
Teproc
mcmcsalot

Everyone, please order these players from least scummy to most scummy.

Voltaire
Robz
manda
Teproc
mcmc

The Unclaimed:

Voltaire
Robz
manda
Teproc
mcmcsalot

Everyone, please order these players from least scummy to most scummy.

Robz
manda
mcmcsalot
Voltaire
Teproc

Scum team?

[mcmcsalot]

So I've been thinking a little bit more about the setup, and we need to consider a couple things.

We know we have an IC (faust) and a Tracker (Morgrim). We know we very likely have a Goon Cop (Jimm). I very much believe we have a Roleblocker (Walrus), or else Walrus counterclaimed only to get his scum buddy immediately killed. If 2.7's claim is true and he is indeed a Bodyguard, we actually have the maximum amount of PRs. We start with 2 automatically, and and we can get a maximum 3 more if scum picked their maximum number of PRs. This means that if any living person is a Vigilante, he or she should immediately claim. This would effectively be a counter claim. It would be impossible for this claim, and Walrus, and Jimm, and 2.7 to all be true.

I assume there is no Vigilante, because you should have already known this, and you should have probably shot 2.7 based on this information (thus confirming your own identity since there would be two kills). I am not the Vigilante--if you are (whoever you are) you screwed up, but tell us!

I should do this, I am not a vigilante

[mcmcsalot]

Want to lynch: Morg
Would lynch: jorbles, manda, walrus, jimmm
Won't lynch: Faust, Robz, Ash, teproc, Volt, 2.7

Saw this in 2.7's post, I agree I think I was 100% wrong here

[mcmcsalot]

Vote: Voltaire This is scum Voltaire. Teproc is also scum...

Robz is confident enough to lynch his partner(volt) and tproc pushing thorugh more mislynches(probably me)

need to read how many lynches we have to work with

[mcmcsalot]

ew robz started defending me from jimm, i'm a sucker for when people do that

[mcmcsalot]

okay, rered complete, manda provided absolutely nothing of relevance, I tunneled into a read of robz/voltaire being a scum team, and tproc came of townie. robz game o good reason for pushing teproc. I am more certain volt is scum than robz is scum or teproc is town. so

SCUM:Volt>>>>Robz>>Manda>>>Teproc:TOWN

[mcmcsalot]

Yup I think volt is our best shot at scum, robz or manda or teproc could be his partner

[manda2014]

The Unclaimed:

Voltaire
Robz
manda
Teproc
mcmcsalot

Everyone, please order these players from least scummy to most scummy.

Voltaire
Robz
manda
Teproc
mcmc

The Unclaimed:

Voltaire
Robz
manda
Teproc
mcmcsalot

Everyone, please order these players from least scummy to most scummy.

Robz
manda
mcmcsalot
Voltaire
Teproc

Scum team?

mcmc, are you saying there's something in these two posts that makes you think they are the scum team?

[mcmcsalot]

@MANDA

yea;

volt sets me up for lynch as well as teproc and leaves robz off the table.

Robz sets up teprocand voltaire for a lynch and puts me middle of the pack.

Then robz coms out against teproc and volt, allowing a teproc mislynch or a partner lead lynch proteting himself and bringing endgame. It just sets them up well. If volt came out swinging against me and robz laid back it would have been much different, the way they did it looks like daychat scum team working the masses.

[Voltaire]

This is nonsense - Robz is not my scum partner, Robz is scum! mcmc, what other than the fact that I am one of the two most likely "candidates" makes you think that I am scum? And that Robz is my partner? Nothing. I think you see two lynches you like, and you don't care which one goes through.

vote: mcmc

I don't actually think it's mcmc/Robz though. Hregh.

[Jimmmmm]

Robz is scum!

vote: mcmc

I don't actually think it's mcmc/Robz though.

This seems incongruent.

[manda2014]

Robz is scum!

vote: mcmc

I don't actually think it's mcmc/Robz though.

This seems incongruent.

Seems like more of an OMGUS vote..

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Hello everyone!

I agree Jimmmmm, I'm not going to vote Teproc for sure. Manda is pretty eh, but honestly I'm probably not voting for her either. So I think a lynch pool of mcmc, Robz, and Voltaire is quite reasonable. I am opposed to a no-lynch today.

Glad to see mcmc is back. And honestly, I kind of like what I see. Looks like an honest town effort more than a scrambling scum effort to me.

I have to say, I am warming up to the idea of a Robz lynch. A couple of things he said haven't sit well with me, e.g. "Lead us PRs! We are helpless town who need guidance!" Sheeping pseudo-ICs, really Robz? The Oompa-Loompa claim is very generic, but probably there's nothing to be learned there, except for how he slipped a "Are all ICs Oompa Loompas? Guys, I'm an IC" in there.

Compound that with a scum read basically all game and it adds up to a vote: Robz. I'll do a reread of Voltaire tomorrow if I have the time.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I meant VTs, not ICs, in my flippant Robz quotation obviously

[Voltaire]

Robz is scum!

vote: mcmc

I don't actually think it's mcmc/Robz though.

This seems incongruent.

vote: Robz

I got frustrated last night. I really do think we're extremely close to getting another scum today and mcmc's intent to vote me got me steamed up. I've re-read what mcmc posted again and I think it's more likely he's wrong, not scum. At this point I really just want the day to end, I need a flip to figure anything else out from this game.

[Jimmmmm]

Volt, if Robz is scum, who is the most likely third?

[Jimmmmm]

Also, if Robz isn't scum, who are the most likely remaining scum?

[Voltaire]

Volt, if Robz is scum, who is the most likely third?

Most likely? Teproc.

Also, if Robz isn't scum, who are the most likely remaining scum?

Most likely? mcmc and then it's a real grab bag for the third.

I also feel good about Robz based on ash's comments about him D1. I encourage everyone to go back and read them.

[yuma]

Vote Count 3.7

Voltaire (1): Robz
Robz (3): Jimmmmm, Voltaire, Walrus (L-2)

Not Voting (4): Teproc, manda, mcmcsalot, 2.7

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day3 will end December 27 at 8:00 pm forum time. (10 days + 2 for Christmas)

[Robz888]

Ack! No, you fools, no. I am NEVER lynched as scum. The mirror fact that you are about to lynch me should demonstrate to you my towniness. I can always wriggle out of the lynch as scum.

[Robz888]

Also, I despise the case against me. "He's acting weird, it doesn't sit right with me, he's too whatever." Oh no, you caught me!

Also, we all forgot that I am an IC?

[Robz888]

The problem with lynching me is, okay, you'll get Voltaire tomorrow, but then what will you do? You better lynch Teproc. It's Voltaire/Teproc. Voltaire's recent comment sealed the deal. He said if I'm scum it probably means Teproc is. He said this because knows I will flip town, and then you will lynch him (Voltaire), and so he wants to do a light bus on his partner, to disassociate.

It's them. It's them. It's them.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

And what is your case against Voltaire/Teproc again besides a bad feeling? Especially Teproc...what evidence do you have that is enough to override Jimmmmm's and my double result last night?

Looks like you're doing a fair bit of wriggling right now.

[Robz888]

And what is your case against Voltaire/Teproc again besides a bad feeling? Especially Teproc...what evidence do you have that is enough to override Jimmmmm's and my double result last night?

Looks like you're doing a fair bit of wriggling right now.

Sorry, didn't notice your "click back to previous pages" button was broken. Let me help you out!

Teproc is scum.

He claimed at L-2 on day 1, before Morgrim did, IIRC.

I see why you believe Walrus' claim Robz, but I simply don't agree with your premise, which is that Jimmmmm would have been lynched if Walrus hadn't stepped in. Probably because I still don't understand why you (and Voltaire and faust) wanted to lynch him first, that still makes no sense to me. I believe he had 3 votes on him when Walrus stepped in ?

I'm having a hard time believing scum took 3 powers. I mean, maybe they did, but that seems very risky because it makes them super weak to the Goon Cop, who'd have a very high likelihood to exist if they did that. And I'm much more inclined to believe 2.7's and Jimmmm's claims because I have a town reads on them regardless, whereas I think Walrus has legitimately been scummy this game. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Teproc is scum who has to argue that all the PR claims are actually not true, because he knows he gets POEd here.

At LAX. Little time. Teproc is not a Goon.

Ok.  So if we believe Jimmmmm's claim, which I think is a pretty solid claim, then Teproc is either a VT, JOAT, role cop, or traitor.  Since Ash flipped regular goon, it really hurts the goon cop's ability because scum picked so many PRs.  It is entirely conceivable that scum did not choose to NK Jimmmmm because they knew that it was impossible for him to give a result.  (say they picked daytalk, JOAT, and (bulletproof or role cop)).  Picking Bulletproof or role cop is more likely given the fact that it is very possible that they chose 3 PRs.  I think Jimmmmm's result does lower any suspicion on Teproc, but is nothing that I would give a day pass for.

Yeah, well, he's just a JOAT or Rolecop.

Summary:
Big against robz.  I don't see both of them being scum.  But I could see either of them being scum.  He was basically right about Jimmmmm/Ashersky, and his vote on Ash before the walrus claim is big town points in my mind.  I am leaning town on Teproc right now.

PPE: 2

Being right doesn't make someone less likely to be scum.

[Voltaire]

Also, I despise the case against me. "He's acting weird, it doesn't sit right with me, he's too whatever." Oh no, you caught me!

Also, we all forgot that I am an IC?

That was an early pass (and a good one, I maintain) pending later behavior. Prior behavior has voided the heck out of it. Especially stuff like this, which is, like, the worst defense I've ever seen.

He said if I'm scum it probably means Teproc is. He said this because knows I will flip town, and then you will lynch him (Voltaire), and so he wants to do a light bus on his partner, to disassociate.

That's only because of the feeling I have about you/mcmc being unlikely. Your partner not being Teproc means I'm either wrong about that, wrong about manda (more unlikely), or wrong about Jimmmmm (yikes).

The more Robz posts the better I feel, that's for sure.