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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #650 on: November 26, 2013, 10:19:27 pm »

Well, through POE, I'm either voting for you or PPS, which is where I'm trying hard not to be horribly stumped.  Neither of you has done anything that's screamed "OH GOD LYNCH ME".

vote: faust.  I think you're ever-so-slightly more likely to be scum than PPS.

Well, this is a reasonable vote, and if PPS is also town, then his power is likely more useful than mine. Still, it would be neat if I had another night at expense. I still need to write one letter... And of course I'd prefer to actually lynch scum.

Oh right, you're the mailman!  For some reason, even with the recent claim list, it slipped my mind as to how awesome that plan was.

vote: pingpongsam

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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #651 on: November 26, 2013, 11:17:18 pm »

1. pingpongsam
5. mail-mi--IC
6. faust--Mail-miman, doesn't seem scummy, and has another night to be useful.
7. xeiron--Sleeping Beauty, already had malificent, so probably town.
8. XerxesPraelor
9. BoxOfDog--cleared by morgrim
10. Jimmmmm
11. Morgrim7--cop
12. chairs--almostcop


So it looks like my lynch pool is Jimmmmm, Xerxes, and PPS
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #652 on: November 27, 2013, 03:22:43 am »

Yes I am cop and I chose BoD cause he was scummy and looking like a good lynch. I wanted to confirm it. I'm keeping my vote on Jimmm for now....
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #653 on: November 27, 2013, 04:21:18 am »

Yes I am cop and I chose BoD cause he was scummy and looking like a good lynch. I wanted to confirm it. I'm keeping my vote on Jimmm for now....

So your role is just "Cop"? What is your flavor name?
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #654 on: November 27, 2013, 12:52:41 pm »

Seconding that.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #655 on: November 27, 2013, 01:34:45 pm »

Some thoughts about the lynch pool.
Players not to lynch:

Xeiron - IC

Morgrim7 - Claimed cop. Should live for some days. We can try to decide whether he is lying or not at a later point when we have more results.

Chairs - Claimed flavor cop. Same as morgrim.

BoxofDog - Innocent by morgrim's cop result. Should no be lynched unless morgrim flip scum.

mail-mi - killed scum. Probably town.

pingpongsam - I had a scumread on him some time ago. I think he has been townier of late, so that gives me about a nullread on him. We lynched Ashersky, a stabile top poster, D1 and we are noticing the consequences. PPS have been the player doing most to keep activity up D1. I am afraid mislynching PPS will drop the activity level even further. While lynching him is bad, he will make a great cop target.

Xerxes - Claimed prince. I have no guarantees the prince is town, but I want to keep hm around, at least one more day, because of the interactions he have with me.


Players I could lynch.

Faust - claimed mailman. I think Faust have played pro-town, and seems to be using his role and flavor for scumhunting purposes. I have a town-read on faust, but I see no other reason not to lynch him. He has a decent chance of flipping scum, and a mislynch would not hurt much.

Jimmmmm - Has not been acting especially scummy, but upon re-reading I do not find anything that convinces me that he is town either. Neighbor with two scum. The theory of a all-scum neighborhood is a good one, and while it might not be true, I will remain suspicious of Jim because of that, until he flips, or we have a investigative result on him. My top lynch target.

Voltgloss - Absent, but is becoming scummier and scummier by POE. The only one remaining when almost everyone else seems to be town. Reasons to lynch him would be that a lynch would solve the issue of a inactive player if there is no replacement. And a missing mafia is also a possible explanation of the missing night-kill. The reason not to lynch him is that it would be a blind lynch, ie. He might have a important role, that we would recognize as be obvious bad if he had been here to claim.

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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #656 on: November 27, 2013, 01:41:49 pm »

I think we should consider a voltgloss lynch, actually.  I understand that real life gets in the way, but POE is leaving precious few people.

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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #657 on: November 27, 2013, 01:59:43 pm »

I think at this stage Volt needs to either be modkilled or replaced. It's not really fair to us to just have him as a non-posting entity.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #658 on: November 27, 2013, 02:08:16 pm »

A replacement has been sought after since the beginning of Day 2. However, no one has been willing to swap in.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #659 on: November 27, 2013, 03:00:55 pm »

I'm going to try a way I think will work to activate Xeiron's thing. I have a not-very-useful, possibly one-shot, night action to do it with.

I suspect morgrim and jimmm the most: I know claiming cop is kind of risky, but given that town already has a cop in chairs, and that a nerfed cop is more likely given all the roles we have here, morgrim is looking pretty suspicious. I don't want to lynch him now, though. A second copping result could be very helpful, so I'll wait a bit.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #660 on: November 27, 2013, 03:23:34 pm »

When Archetype said he had removed Voltgloss from the game "entirely" I interpreted that to mean that were he the only scum Town would have won and that if there were other scum and we killed all but Voltgloss we would win.  Thus, unless the mod indicates otherwise I think a Voltgloss lynch is the worst possible lynch.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #661 on: November 27, 2013, 04:31:16 pm »

Voltgloss can still be lynched/targeted with night actions/etc. bu until he has been replaced he will be off of Vote Counts and can not use his own power.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #662 on: November 27, 2013, 04:32:36 pm »

ashersky has offered to replace Voltgloss and will be joining you all shortly.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #663 on: November 27, 2013, 04:33:05 pm »

ashersky has offered to replace Voltgloss and will be joining you all shortly.

Awesome! Thanks ash!
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #664 on: November 27, 2013, 04:33:27 pm »

When Archetype said he had removed Voltgloss from the game "entirely" I interpreted that to mean that were he the only scum Town would have won and that if there were other scum and we killed all but Voltgloss we would win.  Thus, unless the mod indicates otherwise I think a Voltgloss lynch is the worst possible lynch.

If there is only one scum left, then I agree with you. But I think there is still two scum out there.
Then it is possible that Voltgloss is one of them.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #665 on: November 27, 2013, 04:36:16 pm »

I think ash taking Volt's spot is a good indication that Wolf ash didn't have any partners.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #666 on: November 27, 2013, 04:39:26 pm »

I think ash taking Volt's spot is a good indication that Wolf ash didn't have any partners.
I was thinking the same.
The other possibility is that Ash and Volt was scumpartners.
There is simply no way Ashersky would sub in as town if he had scumpartners still alive.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #667 on: November 27, 2013, 04:52:25 pm »

When Archetype said he had removed Voltgloss from the game "entirely" I interpreted that to mean that were he the only scum Town would have won and that if there were other scum and we killed all but Voltgloss we would win.  Thus, unless the mod indicates otherwise I think a Voltgloss lynch is the worst possible lynch.

If there is only one scum left, then I agree with you. But I think there is still two scum out there.
Then it is possible that Voltgloss is one of them.

Yeah that's what I was saying. Voltgloss may be one but if he were entirely removed from the game and the game continues then there is another scum. At this point we have no information on Voltgloss so it is still bad lynch. We need a flip on someone active in the game for the information.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #668 on: November 27, 2013, 05:05:39 pm »

Hey guys, I'm back!  On the winning side this time!

I was the only wolf, so I have no extra info.

vote: chairs until he can convince me there are multiple flavor cops in a set up like this.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #669 on: November 27, 2013, 05:11:17 pm »

I was the only wolf, so I have no extra info.

Pretty sure you shouldn't be saying this or using any information you gained when you were a wolf.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #670 on: November 27, 2013, 05:12:45 pm »

I was the only wolf, so I have no extra info.

Pretty sure you shouldn't be saying this or using any information you gained when you were a wolf.

Discussed with arch.  I've actually asked that he mod confirm it.  To me, it is the only way I can fairly sub in.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #671 on: November 27, 2013, 05:14:00 pm »

I was the only wolf, so I have no extra info.

Pretty sure you shouldn't be saying this or using any information you gained when you were a wolf.

Discussed with arch.  I've actually asked that he mod confirm it.  To me, it is the only way I can fairly sub in.

Ah ok cool. Obviously go by whatever Arch says.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #672 on: November 27, 2013, 05:34:13 pm »

Yes I am cop and I chose BoD cause he was scummy and looking like a good lynch. I wanted to confirm it. I'm keeping my vote on Jimmm for now....

For what it's worth, Morgrim's claim didn't feel like a fake one to me.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #673 on: November 27, 2013, 05:37:14 pm »

Some thoughts about the lynch pool.
Players not to lynch:

Xeiron - IC

Morgrim7 - Claimed cop. Should live for some days. We can try to decide whether he is lying or not at a later point when we have more results.

Chairs - Claimed flavor cop. Same as morgrim.

BoxofDog - Innocent by morgrim's cop result. Should no be lynched unless morgrim flip scum.

mail-mi - killed scum. Probably town.

pingpongsam - I had a scumread on him some time ago. I think he has been townier of late, so that gives me about a nullread on him. We lynched Ashersky, a stabile top poster, D1 and we are noticing the consequences. PPS have been the player doing most to keep activity up D1. I am afraid mislynching PPS will drop the activity level even further. While lynching him is bad, he will make a great cop target.

Xerxes - Claimed prince. I have no guarantees the prince is town, but I want to keep hm around, at least one more day, because of the interactions he have with me.


Players I could lynch.

Faust - claimed mailman. I think Faust have played pro-town, and seems to be using his role and flavor for scumhunting purposes. I have a town-read on faust, but I see no other reason not to lynch him. He has a decent chance of flipping scum, and a mislynch would not hurt much.

Jimmmmm - Has not been acting especially scummy, but upon re-reading I do not find anything that convinces me that he is town either. Neighbor with two scum. The theory of a all-scum neighborhood is a good one, and while it might not be true, I will remain suspicious of Jim because of that, until he flips, or we have a investigative result on him. My top lynch target.

Voltgloss - Absent, but is becoming scummier and scummier by POE. The only one remaining when almost everyone else seems to be town. Reasons to lynch him would be that a lynch would solve the issue of a inactive player if there is no replacement. And a missing mafia is also a possible explanation of the missing night-kill. The reason not to lynch him is that it would be a blind lynch, ie. He might have a important role, that we would recognize as be obvious bad if he had been here to claim.

To break it down further:

Known, or possibly known town: xeiron, mail-mi, ashersky
Good chance of being town: Morgrim, BoxofDOG (or they are a team?)
Null:  PPS, xerxes, Jimmmmm (on Jimmmmm specifically, I think he's either definitely another scum faction and the Neighborhood with the Wolf and the Witch was a joint scum thing where no one knew they the other was scum; or he was the lone town in a dangerous forest)
Scummy: Faust, because mailman is more often a scum role; chairs, because I am pretty sure his claim is a lie.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #674 on: November 27, 2013, 06:03:53 pm »

Hey guys, I'm back!  On the winning side this time!

I was the only wolf, so I have no extra info.

vote: chairs until he can convince me there are multiple flavor cops in a set up like this.

Morgrim claimed cop, not flavor cop, which I'd argue makes Morgrim actually more likely to be scum given that this is RMM.
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