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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #450 on: November 21, 2013, 02:01:25 pm »

Why in god's name would Voltgloss be preferred? AFAICT he's done nothing to indicate he is town at all.

If someone who is Mafia is made IC what becomes of that situation?
Thats the point. I would rather have someone I do not have a townread on become a IC. Ideally someone we would elsewise have mislynched.
There is not much to gain on using this on EFHW or Jimm as they are almost masons already.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #451 on: November 21, 2013, 02:35:52 pm »

If you believe ash has one or more partners, what do you think of his saying that we should treat EFHW and me as Masons?
I think you have a higher chance of being town.

Also, I'm really debating something...

Poll: If one of us alive right now were to become an IC, who would you want it to be?
I would really like if everyone came to a consensus on this.

Are you saying that you can actually make someone an IC?
Yes. But I need to do it before the day ends.

I think Voltgloss seems to be the favorite so far.
the only objection to him is that he doesn't seems to be around at he moment.

I think that's a pretty big objection.  Like when Ahoppy was IC, we - well, town - hardly benefitted b/c he wasn't around.  I think someone active.  xeiron might be a good choice.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #452 on: November 21, 2013, 03:35:50 pm »

If you believe ash has one or more partners, what do you think of his saying that we should treat EFHW and me as Masons?
I think you have a higher chance of being town.

Also, I'm really debating something...

Poll: If one of us alive right now were to become an IC, who would you want it to be?
I would really like if everyone came to a consensus on this.

Are you saying that you can actually make someone an IC?
Yes. But I need to do it before the day ends.

I think Voltgloss seems to be the favorite so far.
the only objection to him is that he doesn't seems to be around at he moment.

I think that's a pretty big objection.  Like when Ahoppy was IC, we - well, town - hardly benefited b/c he wasn't around.  I think someone active.  xeiron might be a good choice.

I will strongly recommend someone other than me. Pingpongsam would be my choice after Voltgloss. Chairs is also a candidate.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #453 on: November 21, 2013, 03:39:15 pm »

So what happens when a Mafia is made IC? Are they outed? If so, then, sure, vote for me, I am your Huckleberry.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #454 on: November 21, 2013, 04:58:08 pm »

chairs is feeling a little loopy.  I'm fine with pps.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #455 on: November 21, 2013, 05:02:28 pm »

Still awaiting an answer from Arche.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #456 on: November 21, 2013, 05:17:44 pm »

Vote: mail-mi

The power to create an IC would almost have to be a scum power as it would be terribly OP in the hands of Town. Mafia knows who isn't Mafia so at best they strike a possible other Wolf and at least they get the Town cred for having used the power. I think it feasible that xeiron is mail-mi's scum partner. He sets up the suspicion on very tenuous reasoning which he refused to respond to when countered and mail-mi directs the power onto the "suspicious" party for cred all around. They cna always kill the IC later. Voltgloss is the other best vote since his absence creates a cloud of suspicion anyhow.

If the above logic is shot full of enough holes I'll change my vote to Voltgloss just for policy.

I'm not opposed to being the IC but should the IC power out a Mafia then I'd like to see it directed towards either mail-mi or xeiron.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #457 on: November 21, 2013, 05:21:45 pm »

I will explain everything as soon as I get my question answered.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #458 on: November 21, 2013, 06:01:33 pm »

chairs is feeling a little loopy.  I'm fine with pps.

I'm on painkillers, but I don't feel THAT loopy!  ;D

I'm still curious about having received an item last night, though, but I guess I'm the only one and we're not dealing with another Innovation-esque game?

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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #459 on: November 21, 2013, 06:54:56 pm »

chairs is feeling a little loopy.  I'm fine with pps.

I'm on painkillers, but I don't feel THAT loopy!  ;D

I'm still curious about having received an item last night, though, but I guess I'm the only one and we're not dealing with another Innovation-esque game?

I suppose it is either a bomb or a tracking device that tells on you in the night, maybe indicates who you've targeted in the night.

But it could be something totally else, as well. I'm just paranoid.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #460 on: November 21, 2013, 07:16:24 pm »

Discussion at a standstill. :o
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #461 on: November 21, 2013, 07:34:14 pm »

Vote: mail-mi

The power to create an IC would almost have to be a scum power as it would be terribly OP in the hands of Town. Mafia knows who isn't Mafia so at best they strike a possible other Wolf and at least they get the Town cred for having used the power. I think it feasible that xeiron is mail-mi's scum partner. He sets up the suspicion on very tenuous reasoning which he refused to respond to when countered and mail-mi directs the power onto the "suspicious" party for cred all around. They cna always kill the IC later. Voltgloss is the other best vote since his absence creates a cloud of suspicion anyhow.

If the above logic is shot full of enough holes I'll change my vote to Voltgloss just for policy.

I'm not opposed to being the IC but should the IC power out a Mafia then I'd like to see it directed towards either mail-mi or xeiron.

It does seem like an overpowered town power.  It seems to have the requirement that town come to a consensus on who the IC should be.  If it outs Mafia then it's an overpowered cop, especially if it also gives an immediate result.   

It doesn't seem like a mafia power, though, b/c the benefit is so small.  Maybe there is a catch - like the IC dies at the end of the day, so it's like a second nk.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #462 on: November 21, 2013, 08:16:54 pm »

Yay! I thought I was going to die.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #463 on: November 21, 2013, 08:17:12 pm »

Be honest, who targeted me?
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #464 on: November 21, 2013, 10:28:32 pm »

I can explain everything now. I'm a Desperado. During the day, I may target someone. If they are mafia, they die. If they are town, I die and they don't. You lose me, but gain an IC. (Unless I hit scum which is great.)

So who is a good IC if they are town, and super dangerous if they are mafia?
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #465 on: November 21, 2013, 11:06:58 pm »

Vote Count 2.1

BoxOfDog (2) faust, Jimmmmm
Not Voting (9) mail-mi, Morgrim7, EFHW, pingpongsam, Voltgloss, xeiron, XerxesPraelor, chairs, BoxOfDog

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends on November 30th at 11:00 PM.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #466 on: November 21, 2013, 11:29:08 pm »

I can explain everything now. I'm a Desperado. During the day, I may target someone. If they are mafia, they die. If they are town, I die and they don't. You lose me, but gain an IC. (Unless I hit scum which is great.)

So who is a good IC if they are town, and super dangerous if they are mafia?

Confirming you plan to do this today?
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #467 on: November 21, 2013, 11:29:24 pm »

I can explain everything now. I'm a Desperado. During the day, I may target someone. If they are mafia, they die. If they are town, I die and they don't. You lose me, but gain an IC. (Unless I hit scum which is great.)

So who is a good IC if they are town, and super dangerous if they are mafia?

Confirming you plan to do this today?

Or Today rather.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #468 on: November 21, 2013, 11:34:35 pm »

I can explain everything now. I'm a Desperado. During the day, I may target someone. If they are mafia, they die. If they are town, I die and they don't. You lose me, but gain an IC. (Unless I hit scum which is great.)

So who is a good IC if they are town, and super dangerous if they are mafia?

Confirming you plan to do this today?

Or Today rather.

Confirmed. Do you think the mafia would let me live?
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #469 on: November 21, 2013, 11:46:50 pm »

I can explain everything now. I'm a Desperado. During the day, I may target someone. If they are mafia, they die. If they are town, I die and they don't. You lose me, but gain an IC. (Unless I hit scum which is great.)

So who is a good IC if they are town, and super dangerous if they are mafia?

Confirming you plan to do this today?

Or Today rather.

Confirmed. Do you think the mafia would let me live?

Cool. Obviously we take mail-mi out of the lynch pool pending results. Obviously use it to try to hunt scum.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #470 on: November 21, 2013, 11:58:07 pm »

I can explain everything now. I'm a Desperado. During the day, I may target someone. If they are mafia, they die. If they are town, I die and they don't. You lose me, but gain an IC. (Unless I hit scum which is great.)

So who is a good IC if they are town, and super dangerous if they are mafia?
This just in: It's only 1-shot
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #471 on: November 22, 2013, 04:00:44 am »

Really you should just shoot whoever people think is suspicious: that way you survive if we're right and we get maximum information if you're wrong.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #472 on: November 22, 2013, 06:48:03 am »

Vote: Voltgloss

Policy vote, nothing else since there isn't anything else to work with.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #473 on: November 22, 2013, 06:50:57 am »

mail-mi, don't target me unless you really expect me to flip scum or else you die.

This isn't about getting an IC, this is about hitting scum. If you miss we just get the side-benefit of an IC, so choose wisely.

I still push for a xeiron shot.

Also, pray there isn't any role-blocking or redirection taking place with all the role madness.
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Re: RMM11: A Grimm Tale (Chapter 2 [Day])
« Reply #474 on: November 22, 2013, 06:54:16 am »

That we survived N1 intact does lessen the impact of losing mail-mi to the gain of an IC.
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