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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #950 on: October 24, 2013, 03:44:30 pm »

Color-coding D2 with known flips/trustable claims.

Vote Count 2.Final:

Theorel (6): Yuma, nkirbit, Twistedarcher, XerxesPraelor, Voltaire, Galzria

Not Voting (4): Eevee, Theorel, Mail-mi, Chairs
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #951 on: October 24, 2013, 03:45:32 pm »

The thing we have to determine is if discussing and scumhunting together helps the vig with his decision more than it helps the mafia to determine who the vig is.

If we want to have a "normal" day before no lynching, both the VT's and the vig have to be very very careful about giving anything away about their role.
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #952 on: October 24, 2013, 03:45:46 pm »

Alright:

All Players:

Copy Paste the following into your next post, with no modifications, unless, well, you'll understand:

I have seen Eevee's claim and am not counter claiming.

Please don't post anything else other than that statement. When every player has posted, we're moving to night with a no-lynch.

Vigilante, use your best judgement. I supported your N1 choice, and I obviously supported your N2 choice. Don't accept Xerxes claim at face value, but don't just blindly shoot him either. The choice is yours.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #953 on: October 24, 2013, 03:46:14 pm »

I have seen Eevee's claim and am not counter claiming.
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #954 on: October 24, 2013, 03:46:50 pm »

Reposting for relative clarity:

7 Alive now?

No Lynch, Vig doesn't claim. He's got a 1/4 chance of hitting scum. Scum have a 1/4 chance of hitting him. If scum kills our Vig, we're down to 5 tomorrow, with 2 IC's. We have two chances to pick scum out of 3 players.

If scum doesn't kill our Vig, then Vig claims. If scum counter claims, we've got 2 lynches to play with, so we win. If scum don't counter claim, there's only 2 players scum can be. Lynch one, shoot one, win.

Vote: No Lynch

Vigilante, don't claim. Shoot tonight. Worst case, scum try to roleblock you and succeed, nothing happens you claim tomorrow. If they try to roleblock you and fail, we're down to 6. You claim, we lynch a non-claimant. That makes 3 IC's going into night against 2 unknown. If scum let's you shoot, we win. If they don't, we win on lynches.

Galz, what if scum would shoot either you or eevee and just hope the vig misses? i wouldn't count on 3 ics tomorrow.




I am on my phone where I don't know how to copy paste, but i am not counter claiming eevee
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #955 on: October 24, 2013, 03:47:10 pm »

((Also, Xerxes, if you're our Vig, I love the quick VT claim. :P))
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #956 on: October 24, 2013, 03:53:12 pm »

Reposting for relative clarity:

7 Alive now?

No Lynch, Vig doesn't claim. He's got a 1/4 chance of hitting scum. Scum have a 1/4 chance of hitting him. If scum kills our Vig, we're down to 5 tomorrow, with 2 IC's. We have two chances to pick scum out of 3 players.

If scum doesn't kill our Vig, then Vig claims. If scum counter claims, we've got 2 lynches to play with, so we win. If scum don't counter claim, there's only 2 players scum can be. Lynch one, shoot one, win.

Vote: No Lynch

Vigilante, don't claim. Shoot tonight. Worst case, scum try to roleblock you and succeed, nothing happens you claim tomorrow. If they try to roleblock you and fail, we're down to 6. You claim, we lynch a non-claimant. That makes 3 IC's going into night against 2 unknown. If scum let's you shoot, we win. If they don't, we win on lynches.

Galz, what if scum would shoot either you or eevee and just hope the vig misses? i wouldn't count on 3 ics tomorrow.

That would bring us to 5 tomorrow, and the Vig can still safely claim (we've got 2 lynches). At that point we still get two town controlled kills on three players, either through lynches or the Vig shooting.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #957 on: October 24, 2013, 05:14:50 pm »

I have seen Eevee's claim and am not counter claiming.
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #958 on: October 24, 2013, 05:16:34 pm »

No lynch plan is going to be best, IMO.

Waiting on voting for it until Galz says I can.
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #959 on: October 24, 2013, 05:21:45 pm »

Just need Xerxes and Chairs to confirm that they're not counter-claiming Eevee.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #960 on: October 24, 2013, 05:22:11 pm »

Just need Xerxes and Chairs to confirm that they're not counter-claiming Eevee.

Although I suppose Xerxes already did. :P So just Chairs now.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #961 on: October 24, 2013, 05:43:57 pm »

If anybody can come up with a system that allows us to make all 4 kills (7 Alive, 2 IC's + Vig = 3, meaning 4 unknown players left), feel free to post it. I don't think it can be done (I think the maximum we can get is 3 - and there's a lot of different ways for that to happen), but I'm still all ears. I didn't think HP could be solved until it suddenly struck me, so, maybe I've missed something.

On that note, even after Chairs has cleared Eevee as well, don't hammer out to no-lynch right away. I'm willing to let this stall for a few hours to give everybody a chance to think everything over, look back, etc.

Eevee: I'm debating this, but do you think it would be worthwhile for each player to post a list (no reasons need to be given, so we don't tip anything) of the remaining 4 players from scummiest to towniest?

Scum-v-
A
B
C
D
Town-^-

We had have 5 lists posted, only one of which would be by scum. This would give our Vigilante an idea of where people stand. He knows who he is already, which means he's just looking at the 4 other lists (3 by town, 1 by scum), but he'll at least have an idea of where the town opinion is (knowing that 3/4 aren't trying to mislead him, even if he doesn't know who is who). Plus, if the Vig does shoot town, it'll give us another set of credible reads to look back on tomorrow.

I don't think we'll be concerned about tipping off where our Vig is if we do it this way, and even if somehow we do, and scum kill the Vig tonight, we're still left with 5 alive tomorrow, with both you and myself around (So two more lynches, out of 3 players).
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #962 on: October 24, 2013, 05:45:22 pm »

That sounds harmless and potentially useful in the future. Totally approved.
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #963 on: October 24, 2013, 05:48:29 pm »

chairs
mail-mi
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #964 on: October 24, 2013, 05:51:51 pm »

Who are the 5? Me, XP, volt, chairs? Who else?

PPE it's nkirbit! Okay...

Chairs
Nkirbit
Volt
XP
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #965 on: October 24, 2013, 05:53:23 pm »

Scum
Chairs
Mail-Mi
Voltaire
Xerxes



Mail-Mi and Voltaire are pretty close.
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #966 on: October 24, 2013, 05:53:37 pm »

In that case, if everybody doesn't mind:

Take your time, read back, consider flips, look at interactions. Form your reads. When all of that is done, please post your reads list, in order of scummiest to towniest. You may leave Eevee and myself off the list, as well as yourself.

So I'm looking at 5 lists posted, one each from: Xerxes, Chairs, Mail-Mi, Voltaire, Nkirbit. Each list should contain the other 4 players I just listed, in order from scum to town:

Example (from Chairs perspective, alphabetically ordered):

Scum-v-
Nkirbit
Mail-Mi
Xerxes
Voltare
Town-^-

That's it. No explanation needed for your reads. Just your list. Myself or Eevee, or our Vigilante will ask you to explain your reads tomorrow if you're still alive, so make sure you think them through fully. Take your time. We're in no rush right now. If you die in the night, at least your reads will be listed in thread and we'll have that much more information to decide our last two kills based off of.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #967 on: October 24, 2013, 05:54:07 pm »

PPE: 3. :P
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #968 on: October 24, 2013, 05:55:34 pm »

Haha I really hope Xerxes is town. ;D
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #969 on: October 24, 2013, 05:57:04 pm »

Headed to work. I'll be around on my mobile if anything comes up. Eevee, if anything else jumps to mind, go ahead and take the lead on it. If anybody else can figure out how to make all 4 kills before endgame, feel free to put it out there.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #970 on: October 24, 2013, 10:37:00 pm »

I'm not counter claiming. I'll do that list as soon as I can

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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #971 on: October 24, 2013, 11:38:42 pm »

Okay, not phone posting for a moment..

Scum to town:
Mail-Mi
Nkirbit
Xerxes
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #972 on: October 25, 2013, 12:54:05 am »

List: ( I'll be gone for 2 days starting now)

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Chairs
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Re: Mafia XXXII: Dynasty Warriors Mafia
« Reply #973 on: October 25, 2013, 10:35:35 am »

That's everyone. vote: no lynch
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« Reply #974 on: October 25, 2013, 11:00:55 am »

Yep, hammer away.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20
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