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[werothegreat]

http://dominionlogs.goko.com//20130912/log.505c6195a2e6c78ad2ed5a99.1379013631048.txt

My opponent (no disrespect to him) had over a 5K rating on Goko, so I was expecting some reasonable competition.  I do a simple Remake-BM, getting 4 Provinces in 15 turns, while my opponent gets two Bureaucrats and attempts to empty the City pile.  How do you make it to such a high rating without realizing the power of trashing?

[Warfreak2]

It's a mystery. Most 5000-level players don't know about the Hermit/Market Square megaturn. They also open with Pirate Ship in response to your Chapel.

[Eevee]

It's a mystery. Most 5000-level players don't know about the Hermit/Market Square megaturn. They also open with Pirate Ship in response to your Chapel.

I wouldn't know how to execute hermit/market square and I'm well over 6k. Reading long articles is like tedious work!

[Robz888]

Goko ratings are essentially like this:

<5000: New to Dominion.
5000 - 6000: ? ? ?
>6000: Good.

[werothegreat]

It's a mystery. Most 5000-level players don't know about the Hermit/Market Square megaturn. They also open with Pirate Ship in response to your Chapel.

I wouldn't know how to execute hermit/market square and I'm well over 6k. Reading long articles is like tedious work!

I can do Hermit/Scheme!  That makes me feel successful, especially since it finally works right on Goko.

Goko ratings are essentially like this:

<5000: New to Dominion.
5000 - 6000: ? ? ?
>6000: Good.

I think you mean:

<5000: Doesn't play on Goko for months at a time.
>6000: Has no social life.

[jsh357]

I'd put the good tier more at 5500+

I can't stay above 6000 ;_;

[Robz888]

It's a mystery. Most 5000-level players don't know about the Hermit/Market Square megaturn. They also open with Pirate Ship in response to your Chapel.

I wouldn't know how to execute hermit/market square and I'm well over 6k. Reading long articles is like tedious work!

Eevee! It's not that hard, just open Hermit/Hermit, gain lots of Hermits and Market Squares, save at least one Estate or non-Treasure trashable card, and slowly turn Hermits into Madmen such that you have X number of Hermits and X+3 number of Madmen. 6 Madmen and 3 Hermits is ideal, but 5 Madmen and 2 Hermits is also fine.

[Robz888]

>6000: Has no social life.

I don't agree! The rating system is very swingy, and you don't have to win very many games to get in the 6000 range. You just have to win a lot of the games you do play.

[Voltaire]

Goko ratings are essentially like this:

<5000: New to Dominion.
5000 - 6000: ? ? ?
>6000: Good.

Wrong! I am having a devil of a time staying above 5000, but Isotropish says I'm level 24 and I think I was level 22 when iso went down. Now, I know for the elite players here a level 23ish person is not competition, but I'd hardly call them "new to Dominion"!

[SirPeebles]

>6000: Has no social life.

I don't agree! The rating system is very swingy, and you don't have to win very many games to get in the 6000 range. You just have to win a lot of the games you do play.

But you have to play frequently to maintain that rating.  Go a few weeks without a match, and your rating will plummet.

[GeoLib]

>6000: Has no social life.

I don't agree! The rating system is very swingy, and you don't have to win very many games to get in the 6000 range. You just have to win a lot of the games you do play.

But you have to play frequently to maintain that rating.  Go a few weeks without a match, and your rating will plummet.

Classes started back up again, so I didn't play for a week or two and my rating dropped from ~6k to ~5k

[Robz888]

>6000: Has no social life.

I don't agree! The rating system is very swingy, and you don't have to win very many games to get in the 6000 range. You just have to win a lot of the games you do play.

But you have to play frequently to maintain that rating.  Go a few weeks without a match, and your rating will plummet.

Well, sure, yes. But Isotropic was like that, too. What I mean is that you don't have to play Goko for like 24 hrs straight to get mega leveled up. You just have to play people and not lose for a while.

[SCSN]

Um... how do people get such high Goko ratings?

I sometimes wonder that too. Like yesterday, when I opened Baron with Hovel in hand.

[Eevee]

Um... how do people get such high Goko ratings?

I sometimes wonder that too. Like yesterday, when I opened Baron with Hovel in hand.

It's an expert play and recognizing the situations that call for it is vital for improving in dominion.
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130828/log.5158def5e4b0ee7f08a599e4.1377707773476.txt

[Kirian]

>6000: Has no social life.

I don't agree! The rating system is very swingy, and you don't have to win very many games to get in the 6000 range. You just have to win a lot of the games you do play.

But you have to play frequently to maintain that rating.  Go a few weeks without a match, and your rating will plummet.

Well, sure, yes. But Isotropic was like that, too. What I mean is that you don't have to play Goko for like 24 hrs straight to get mega leveled up. You just have to play people and not lose for a while.

Goko's plummet is a lot larger than Iso's was, though.  On Goko you can drop down 1000 points after 10 days, whereas that time period would only drop you maybe 3 or 4 levels on Iso.

[Kirian]

Um... how do people get such high Goko ratings?

I sometimes wonder that too. Like yesterday, when I opened Baron with Hovel in hand.

It's an expert play and recognizing the situations that call for it is vital for improving in dominion.
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130828/log.5158def5e4b0ee7f08a599e4.1377707773476.txt

I just want to check to learn from the expert level play... Baron was the right play here because it was the only source of +Buy, Highway was on the board, and you want to get the Estates into your deck early by playing Baron for its gain.  Right?

[Warfreak2]

Eevee! It's not that hard, just open Hermit/Hermit, gain lots of Hermits and Market Squares, save at least one Estate or non-Treasure trashable card, and slowly turn Hermits into Madmen such that you have X number of Hermits and X+3 number of Madmen. 6 Madmen and 3 Hermits is ideal, but 5 Madmen and 2 Hermits is also fine.

You'd like to keep as many Estates as you will have Hermits in the megaturn - that way when you play Hermit on the megaturn, you can gain additional Market Squares.

Wandering Winder posted a hilarious video in which he failed to execute this combo...

[Robz888]

>6000: Has no social life.

I don't agree! The rating system is very swingy, and you don't have to win very many games to get in the 6000 range. You just have to win a lot of the games you do play.

But you have to play frequently to maintain that rating.  Go a few weeks without a match, and your rating will plummet.

Well, sure, yes. But Isotropic was like that, too. What I mean is that you don't have to play Goko for like 24 hrs straight to get mega leveled up. You just have to play people and not lose for a while.

Goko's plummet is a lot larger than Iso's was, though.  On Goko you can drop down 1000 points after 10 days, whereas that time period would only drop you maybe 3 or 4 levels on Iso.

I never go long stretches without playing, but I only play a few games here and there. I guess Goko rewards my kind of playing schedule.

[AHoppy]

I have a hard time breaking 4.5k and I've been playing for about 2 years... It's mostly not playing a great volume of games, long breaks in between games and not paying nearly as much attention when playing online

[Kirian]

Goko's plummet is a lot larger than Iso's was, though.  On Goko you can drop down 1000 points after 10 days, whereas that time period would only drop you maybe 3 or 4 levels on Iso.

I never go long stretches without playing, but I only play a few games here and there. I guess Goko rewards my kind of playing schedule.

At some point they mentioned that the longer you stayed away, the faster your rating would drop.  Because, I guess, Dominion is an ever-evolving game like Starcraft, with balance changes every week that change things up.

[brokoli]

I played a game last week, then another today... and my ratings already dropped by 1000 =.=
Goko ratings are just terrible.

[Eevee]

Um... how do people get such high Goko ratings?

I sometimes wonder that too. Like yesterday, when I opened Baron with Hovel in hand.

It's an expert play and recognizing the situations that call for it is vital for improving in dominion.
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130828/log.5158def5e4b0ee7f08a599e4.1377707773476.txt

I just want to check to learn from the expert level play... Baron was the right play here because it was the only source of +Buy, Highway was on the board, and you want to get the Estates into your deck early by playing Baron for its gain.  Right?

Or I didn't realize it was a shelters game. Take your pick!

[werothegreat]

Um... how do people get such high Goko ratings?

I sometimes wonder that too. Like yesterday, when I opened Baron with Hovel in hand.

It's an expert play and recognizing the situations that call for it is vital for improving in dominion.
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130828/log.5158def5e4b0ee7f08a599e4.1377707773476.txt

I just want to check to learn from the expert level play... Baron was the right play here because it was the only source of +Buy, Highway was on the board, and you want to get the Estates into your deck early by playing Baron for its gain.  Right?

Or I didn't realize it was a shelters game. Take your pick!

Expert Dominion play involves turning an "oops" into an "I win!"

[heron]

http://dominionlogs.goko.com//20130912/log.505c6195a2e6c78ad2ed5a99.1379013631048.txt

My opponent (no disrespect to him) had over a 5K rating on Goko, so I was expecting some reasonable competition.  I do a simple Remake-BM, getting 4 Provinces in 15 turns, while my opponent gets two Bureaucrats and attempts to empty the City pile.  How do you make it to such a high rating without realizing the power of trashing?

Answer: Play bots.

[Kirian]

Um... how do people get such high Goko ratings?

I sometimes wonder that too. Like yesterday, when I opened Baron with Hovel in hand.

It's an expert play and recognizing the situations that call for it is vital for improving in dominion.
http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130828/log.5158def5e4b0ee7f08a599e4.1377707773476.txt

I just want to check to learn from the expert level play... Baron was the right play here because it was the only source of +Buy, Highway was on the board, and you want to get the Estates into your deck early by playing Baron for its gain.  Right?

Or I didn't realize it was a shelters game. Take your pick!

lol