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[Schneau]

http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130906/log.51453438e4b0de86766bd494.1378512314315.txt

I've always said that Rats can be huge in a Scrying Pool game, and here's a great example. It's a beautiful board with Stonemason (to grab 2 Scrying Pools at once, as well as trash Rats later), Village and Wharf to add consistency and +Buys, and the real star of the show: Secret Chamber!

Turn 11 I gain 9 Rats while trashing 8 Coppers and an Estate. Turn 12 I can draw and discard my entire deck multiple times with Scrying Pool and Secret Chamber, while also trashing Rats to gain Villages and Secret Chambers. My opponent resigns, though I would have only had 3 buys to use with at least $25. With a few Wharf buys that turn, I could have bought most of the Provinces on turn 13.

I probably didn't play this perfectly, but it was a blast to play!

[SirPeebles]

This is a quite beautiful board.

[popsofctown]

This is more about Scrying Pool than Rats.  I still think Scrying Pool is the strongest card in Dominion, really.

[Schneau]

This is more about Scrying Pool than Rats.  I still think Scrying Pool is the strongest card in Dominion, really.

Of course. But, Scrying Pool wouldn't be near as powerful on this board without Rats.

[popsofctown]

It wouldn't be fast, but it'd still be just as powerful, it'd be an obligation for both players to go that route.  You've still got Secret Chamber, trashing, and +buy.

[popsofctown]

oh, nevermind, you don't -really- have trashing.  Misunderstood Stonemason.

Ok I see how this is cool.

[ftl]

Well, it's still trashing, just very slow. It can trash coppers one at a time, or convert an estate into two coppers (which it can trash one at a time...)

[Mic Qsenoch]

It wouldn't be fast, but it'd still be just as powerful, it'd be an obligation for both players to go that route.  You've still got Secret Chamber, trashing, and +buy.

Without Rats, Scrying Pool is not an obligation here at all. Wharf/Village/Throne Room should be fast, and I would imagine even Wharf BM could beat it some. With Rats, Scrying Pool becomes better, but I'm still not sure I'd say it's absolutely necessary.

[Polk5440]

whoa, whoa, whoa. You can overpay with potion!? 

How did I not realize this!?

[eHalcyon]

whoa, whoa, whoa. You can overpay with potion!? 

How did I not realize this!?

You didn't follow along the Guilds previews?

[Polk5440]

whoa, whoa, whoa. You can overpay with potion!? 

How did I not realize this!?

You didn't follow along the Guilds previews?

Evidently not nearly closely enough!

[heron]

Scrying Pool-Secret Chamber: The combo that is ten times more fun in real life than on goko.

[Kirian]

Scrying Pool-Secret Chamber: The combo that is ten times more fun in real life than on goko.

o.O

Remind me never to play with you in real life!

[heron]

Scrying Pool-Secret Chamber: The combo that is ten times more fun in real life than on goko.

o.O

Remind me never to play with you in real life!

I was referring to the fact that you have to keep clicking done with reactions whenever your opponent plays scrying pool.