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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #775 on: February 24, 2017, 07:44:00 pm »
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Just realized that probably Equality will have to say "Setup" and mention you do this before drawing your starting hand. I'll fix it when I fix Exile.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #776 on: February 25, 2017, 11:24:41 pm »
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Just playtested the Treasure version of Investment. Nope. Just nope. I don't even think it would have mattered whether it was an Action, as I just played it, paid of part of the tokens, repeated that and bought Provinces. It was awful. I played absolutely horrible, made several dumb decisions and still won. So, guess what goes to outtakes...
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #777 on: February 26, 2017, 12:43:00 am »
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Just playtested the Treasure version of Investment. Nope. Just nope. I don't even think it would have mattered whether it was an Action, as I just played it, paid of part of the tokens, repeated that and bought Provinces. It was awful. I played absolutely horrible, made several dumb decisions and still won. So, guess what goes to outtakes...

What if it was 2 coin tokens and 2 debt instead?
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #778 on: February 26, 2017, 09:12:41 am »
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Just playtested the Treasure version of Investment. Nope. Just nope. I don't even think it would have mattered whether it was an Action, as I just played it, paid of part of the tokens, repeated that and bought Provinces. It was awful. I played absolutely horrible, made several dumb decisions and still won. So, guess what goes to outtakes...

What if it was 2 coin tokens and 2 debt instead?

You can try it out if you like. I don't feel like it for now. Maybe I'll give it another shot in the future, like with Heir. To me, it looks like the concept itself is the problem - the card actively discourages getting any cards this turn.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #779 on: February 26, 2017, 04:00:41 pm »
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Here's the changes to the edicts:



Also, I altered the image on Restore from the Seasons thread. Co0kieL0rd isn't around anymore, so I still can't make "official" announcements about the state of Seasons, but I felt I could still try to fix some remaining issues up a bit. In this case, it's the historical art that didn't really do it for me.



I actually also tried out another color scheme for Season cards, even though I'm far from willing to re-do all of them right now...


Any opinions on this?
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #780 on: February 26, 2017, 04:34:56 pm »
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I prefer the new colour scheme, but redoing all the cards seems annoying. Why did you also make the text box lighter?
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #781 on: February 26, 2017, 06:27:35 pm »
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I prefer the new colour scheme, but redoing all the cards seems annoying. Why did you also make the text box lighter?

It just seems lighter because the old one is darker. It's not actually lighter than the standard color, methinks.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #782 on: February 26, 2017, 06:53:03 pm »
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So, I decided to change Blessing to be an Edict. I was proud of the Event version, but this one has the advantage that no one can complain about order issues ("You already spent your buy on Silver!").



Also, I'm updating the OP, including the TTS template, atm.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #783 on: February 26, 2017, 09:32:31 pm »
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I prefer the new colour scheme, but redoing all the cards seems annoying. Why did you also make the text box lighter?

It just seems lighter because the old one is darker. It's not actually lighter than the standard color, methinks.
I know it could be an optical illusion, but on close inspection, I'm pretty sure the new text box doesn't have the same level of pink tint that the old one did.  I'm not sure which version I like better.  I'm kind of partial to the old one because I've already printed out some of the old cards :)  But the new one is nice.  I think I would like the new one the best if it had a pinker tint to the text box. 
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #784 on: February 26, 2017, 11:43:14 pm »
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I prefer the new colour scheme, but redoing all the cards seems annoying. Why did you also make the text box lighter?

It just seems lighter because the old one is darker. It's not actually lighter than the standard color, methinks.
I know it could be an optical illusion, but on close inspection, I'm pretty sure the new text box doesn't have the same level of pink tint that the old one did.  I'm not sure which version I like better.  I'm kind of partial to the old one because I've already printed out some of the old cards :)  But the new one is nice.  I think I would like the new one the best if it had a pinker tint to the text box.
Yes, the tint is a bit different, I didn't deny that. I thought pacovf meant that I brightened the pink up in comparison to the standard color. If you're talking about the old text box color, it is indeed brighter.

The reason I wanted to change it was that with the official types, it's the banners that are more colorful than the text box. With the old design, it was the other way around, which made the cards look a bit atypical at the very least.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #785 on: February 27, 2017, 08:36:14 am »
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I like the old seasons template, and dislike the new one.

I don't like the changes to Blessing, an Event seemed so much better.

Can I have the edicts template please  :)?
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #786 on: February 27, 2017, 08:57:29 am »
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I like the old seasons template, and dislike the new one.

I don't like the changes to Blessing, an Event seemed so much better.

Can I have the edicts template please  :)?

Can you give any reason why you don't like the new Blessing?
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #787 on: February 27, 2017, 09:09:16 am »
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So, I decided to change Blessing to be an Edict. I was proud of the Event version, but this one has the advantage that no one can complain about order issues ("You already spent your buy on Silver!").



Also, I'm updating the OP, including the TTS template, atm.

If blessing gave a +Buy, than I like the edict more.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #788 on: February 27, 2017, 09:34:22 am »
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I like the old seasons template, and dislike the new one.

I don't like the changes to Blessing, an Event seemed so much better.

Can I have the edicts template please  :)?

Can you give any reason why you don't like the new Blessing?
Seems messier. I feel like people will forget it way more actually. They will just discard their hand and not realize since that's what they usually do. If it was "Once per turn, you may trash a card from your hand" I'd love it. It can't be implimented as an Event for starters, and allowing trashing mid action phase seems cool, and since you can do it anytime it seems easier to remeber.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #789 on: February 27, 2017, 11:06:37 am »
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I like the old seasons template, and dislike the new one.

I don't like the changes to Blessing, an Event seemed so much better.

Can I have the edicts template please  :)?

Can you give any reason why you don't like the new Blessing?
Seems messier. I feel like people will forget it way more actually. They will just discard their hand and not realize since that's what they usually do. If it was "Once per turn, you may trash a card from your hand" I'd love it. It can't be implimented as an Event for starters, and allowing trashing mid action phase seems cool, and since you can do it anytime it seems easier to remeber.

Anytime also means you have to remember for our entire turn whether you already did it. Also, Tactician aside, you usually have most cards in your hand at the end of the turn, making it not particularly useful to trash in the middle. Some Dark Ages interaction, but that's it. Not worth the trouble in my opinion. From my playing experience with the Event, you usually think of the trashing last. It'll be either this or the Event version, but nothing with a wide, turn-spanning trigger. Of course, one could do such an Edict, but trashing doesn't look like it really benefits from it to me.

So, I decided to change Blessing to be an Edict. I was proud of the Event version, but this one has the advantage that no one can complain about order issues ("You already spent your buy on Silver!").

Also, I'm updating the OP, including the TTS template, atm.

If blessing gave a +Buy, than I like the edict more.
It did. It was "Once per turn: +1 Buy, trash a card from your hand." for 0$. It had no issues, but as I think 12 Edicts are quite enough as proof-of-concept, I could also do some that only slightly benefit from it (like Arena does).



Here's another one that doesn't work as an Event:


Edit: Probably this can do without the "before drawing starting hands" section. I put it there because of Equality. Which is totally pointless, now that I think of it.
Edit: Also, I'll try to upload and link the template later today. Maybe I'll put it in the OP so people actually have to look at that from time to time ;)
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #790 on: February 27, 2017, 12:17:14 pm »
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Two things--love the edicts, want mooooooaoaar!!!!!  Like blessing as edict. 
Also, I like looking at OP.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #791 on: February 27, 2017, 03:43:50 pm »
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love the edicts, want mooooooaoaar!!!!!

Okay, you asked for it:



You did ask for this one, didn't you? I think somebody did. Glad to deliver. Also, I'm uploading the template right now.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #792 on: February 27, 2017, 03:53:46 pm »
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love the edicts, want mooooooaoaar!!!!!

Okay, you asked for it:



You did ask for this one, didn't you? I think somebody did. Glad to deliver. Also, I'm uploading the template right now.

I don't think this one can work. Imagine a game with Mountebank and no trashers. Yikes. Maybe change it to 5 empty piles instead?
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #793 on: February 27, 2017, 03:58:33 pm »
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love the edicts, want mooooooaoaar!!!!!

Okay, you asked for it:



You did ask for this one, didn't you? I think somebody did. Glad to deliver. Also, I'm uploading the template right now.

I don't think this one can work. Imagine a game with Mountebank and no trashers. Yikes. Maybe change it to 5 empty piles instead?

I agree.  I think 5 empty piles is better. 
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #794 on: February 27, 2017, 04:06:14 pm »
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Hum, you're probably right, guys. Maybe 5 is already too much.

How about "The game does not end on 3 supply piles being empty, but on 4 or more."
Sure this has no effect on 5+ player games, but those are too long already.

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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #795 on: February 27, 2017, 04:32:36 pm »
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Or maybe make it so that the game only ends on piles if the Curse pile is also empty?

4 or more piles seems reasonable, I guess it only depends on how game warping you want it to be.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #796 on: February 27, 2017, 04:48:57 pm »
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Or maybe make it so that the game only ends on piles if the Curse pile is also empty?

4 or more piles seems reasonable, I guess it only depends on how game warping you want it to be.

That's not bad, either. For now I think I'm going to go with the one above, however.

About the template, I'm sorry, but it appears I consistently lose connection when trying to upload it. I'll try again tomorrow.
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #797 on: February 28, 2017, 09:27:31 am »
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Here's the edict template.
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Asper's Magical Seasonal Vanilla Tour
« Reply #798 on: March 06, 2017, 09:48:55 pm »
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Some simple stuff today:



And some magic, too:



Next, an Event:



And because it stole the art from Restore, that got another one yet:



Then, 2 more Season cards revisited:



And finally, as you can never have too many Season cards:
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Re: Asper's Cards
« Reply #799 on: March 07, 2017, 07:16:50 am »
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What is a spell?
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