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[Stealth Tomato]

Vanillage.

Replying to myself to actually explain why besides the name. Vanillage is a great card because it teaches opportunity cost. It has literally no other function than allowing you to play more Actions (deck-stacking edge cases aside). In nearly all cases, when you buy a Vanillage, you are passing up the opportunity to buy some other useful card. This doesn't apply to cards like Worker's Village.

Note: This also applies to Walled Village; and I'm also quite partial to Mining Village, since the trash-for-$2 option causes some really interesting decisions.

[Compynerd255]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

[ftl]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple.

No, the dude is a comedian.

And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy

He wasn't.

[scott_pilgrim]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

[michaeljb]

King's Court - Scout

King's Court - Lookout

[WanderingWinder]

A village is any card that gives +2 Actions.

Crossroads is a Sad Panda.

[Compynerd255]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

OK, I looked at that again, and I realize that's a joke now - he breaks so many rules about the game (for instance, including the fact that you can buy Copper with 0) that it's obvious that he knows he's doing it. I know as well that I'm Autistic, and thus have trouble detecting sarcasm, especially if it's especially well masked like this was. In the future, I'd appreciate it if I wasn't Socially Awkward Pengined.

Of course, one of the things I hate the most is when people are dead serious or purposefully misleading about something that logic or math can prove is flat out wrong. I had to deal with that last night - my younger brother wanted to watch a marathon of a show with almost 24 hours of content, and he staunchly insisted, despite all the evidence clouding around him, that a 14-hour video of all the content was on Youtube. I have a particular hatred for these things because they just create too much confusion and can be extremely misleading to those who don't know.

[Mole5000]

Workers Village used to be my undisputed number one favourite village but now I'm wondering if Wandering Minstrel has stolen my hart with a song of interest and reliability.

[Wrclass]

On a board with FV, WV WM, BV, no trashing and a good smithy variant, I think I would mostly ignore Fishing Village and concentrate on getting a mixture of the other three. Wandering Minstrel would make up for the fact that there's no trashing, Worker's Village for all my +Buy, and Border Village's whenever I got $6.

[markusin]

One thing I've noticed about Vanillage: because it's so inexpensive, it often brings out the notion of an actual village split. I don't remember ever thinking "Ach I've lost the Bazaar split 7-3", but I will see it like that for Vanillage. Fishing Village already gives so many actions. Shanty Town has problems when you get too many. Hamlet makes you discard in order to get the extra action. The $4+ cost villages are usually available when you want them.

[Stealth Tomato]

One thing I've noticed about Vanillage: because it's so inexpensive, it often brings out the notion of an actual village split. I don't remember ever thinking "Ach I've lost the Bazaar split 7-3", but I will see it like that for Vanillage. Fishing Village already gives so many actions. Shanty Town has problems when you get too many. Hamlet makes you discard in order to get the extra action. The $4+ cost villages are usually available when you want them.

Actually I find this happens most often with Fishing Village.

[eHalcyon]

On a board with FV, WV WM, BV, no trashing and a good smithy variant, I think I would mostly ignore Fishing Village and concentrate on getting a mixture of the other three. Wandering Minstrel would make up for the fact that there's no trashing, Worker's Village for all my +Buy, and Border Village's whenever I got $6.

In the case you describe, I think BV is the one I would leave out. WM is good for sifting, as you say. WV for +Buy (unless I have a better source, e.g. Margrave). Then I favour FV for added reliability and lower cost. BV competes with Gold and its benefit is less important if I am already loaded with other villages. I might take it if the draw card is $5 and I hit $6 before getting my first copy of it. I might also take BV if there is TfB. But yeah, with lots of cheap villages and draw, I would rather have the Gold so that there is something good to draw.

[markusin]

One thing I've noticed about Vanillage: because it's so inexpensive, it often brings out the notion of an actual village split. I don't remember ever thinking "Ach I've lost the Bazaar split 7-3", but I will see it like that for Vanillage. Fishing Village already gives so many actions. Shanty Town has problems when you get too many. Hamlet makes you discard in order to get the extra action. The $4+ cost villages are usually available when you want them.

Actually I find this happens most often with Fishing Village.

It kinda happens with Fishing Village, but Fishing Village decks naturally support more terminals than decks with other villages. With vanilla Village, I really get the sense of "Gosh, I only have 3 villages. That's just not enough to do what I was hoping to do" sometimes.

[scott_pilgrim]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

OK, I looked at that again, and I realize that's a joke now - he breaks so many rules about the game (for instance, including the fact that you can buy Copper with 0) that it's obvious that he knows he's doing it. I know as well that I'm Autistic, and thus have trouble detecting sarcasm, especially if it's especially well masked like this was. In the future, I'd appreciate it if I wasn't Socially Awkward Pengined.

Of course, one of the things I hate the most is when people are dead serious or purposefully misleading about something that logic or math can prove is flat out wrong. I had to deal with that last night - my younger brother wanted to watch a marathon of a show with almost 24 hours of content, and he staunchly insisted, despite all the evidence clouding around him, that a 14-hour video of all the content was on Youtube. I have a particular hatred for these things because they just create too much confusion and can be extremely misleading to those who don't know.

I'm really really sorry about that; I read your previous post as having a somewhat condescending tone, so that's how I responded.  If you'd like, I can take it down.

[Compynerd255]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

(Soc Awk Peng)

OK, I looked at that again, and I realize that's a joke now - he breaks so many rules about the game (for instance, including the fact that you can buy Copper with 0) that it's obvious that he knows he's doing it. I know as well that I'm Autistic, and thus have trouble detecting sarcasm, especially if it's especially well masked like this was. In the future, I'd appreciate it if I wasn't Socially Awkward Pengined.

Of course, one of the things I hate the most is when people are dead serious or purposefully misleading about something that logic or math can prove is flat out wrong. I had to deal with that last night - my younger brother wanted to watch a marathon of a show with almost 24 hours of content, and he staunchly insisted, despite all the evidence clouding around him, that a 14-hour video of all the content was on Youtube. I have a particular hatred for these things because they just create too much confusion and can be extremely misleading to those who don't know.

I'm really really sorry about that; I read your previous post as having a somewhat condescending tone, so that's how I responded.  If you'd like, I can take it down.

Well, yes, I would agree that I was being condescending. When I initially saw the video (and I actually stopped when he said the worst card was Chapel and didn't even see the terrible strategy he did with it), I saw a guy who clearly didn't know how to play Dominion and yet hubristically pretended he did, and I didn't think that was funny at all and thought lower of him. You were right to call me out - but I felt that using a meme like that was a little too much. I forgive you for that.

[GendoIkari]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

(Soc Awk Peng)

OK, I looked at that again, and I realize that's a joke now - he breaks so many rules about the game (for instance, including the fact that you can buy Copper with 0) that it's obvious that he knows he's doing it. I know as well that I'm Autistic, and thus have trouble detecting sarcasm, especially if it's especially well masked like this was. In the future, I'd appreciate it if I wasn't Socially Awkward Pengined.

Of course, one of the things I hate the most is when people are dead serious or purposefully misleading about something that logic or math can prove is flat out wrong. I had to deal with that last night - my younger brother wanted to watch a marathon of a show with almost 24 hours of content, and he staunchly insisted, despite all the evidence clouding around him, that a 14-hour video of all the content was on Youtube. I have a particular hatred for these things because they just create too much confusion and can be extremely misleading to those who don't know.

I'm really really sorry about that; I read your previous post as having a somewhat condescending tone, so that's how I responded.  If you'd like, I can take it down.

Well, yes, I would agree that I was being condescending. When I initially saw the video (and I actually stopped when he said the worst card was Chapel and didn't even see the terrible strategy he did with it), I saw a guy who clearly didn't know how to play Dominion and yet hubristically pretended he did, and I didn't think that was funny at all and thought lower of him. You were right to call me out - but I felt that using a meme like that was a little too much. I forgive you for that.

Also, just to clarify, you can indeed buy a Copper with $0. As far as I know, he never breaks any of the rules of the game, he just plays purposely terribly.

[Ace539]

I've played a bunch of games with plaza now, and I'm surprised how strong it is.... but you can't top drawing a council room and militia and realizing you still have actions from your fishing village the turn before.... besides orange cards are the coolest looking

[blueblimp]

It kinda happens with Fishing Village, but Fishing Village decks naturally support more terminals than decks with other villages.

That's only true if you aren't drawing your deck (or most of it). If you are, then FV can only supply 2 actions per turn, same as other villages. It's more reliable, but sometimes that's only minor.

[Compynerd255]

besides orange cards are the coolest looking

Yes, they are. Nothing says "Look at my powerful deck" like some orange cards out in front of you like construction signs. The color choices in Dominion are great - let's run through them:

• Action: White - The card you'll be using the most, and thus the most generic looking
• Treasure: Yellow - All that gold running through your fingers
• Victory: Green - Plays very much into the idea of land, and victory in this game is quiet and unsuspecting, much like the color green itself
• Reaction: Blue - Blue is unspoken, subverted, ready to jump from the shadows at a moment's notice
• Curse: Purple - The color of evil and despair. 'Nuff said.
• Ruins: Brown - Not evil, per se, so much as useless. Like dirt or ash.
• Shelter: Red - I actually don't like this color choice as much...
• Duration: Orange - Nothing says "permanence" like a nice bright construction zone color

[Wrclass]

On a board with FV, WV WM, BV, no trashing and a good smithy variant, I think I would mostly ignore Fishing Village and concentrate on getting a mixture of the other three. Wandering Minstrel would make up for the fact that there's no trashing, Worker's Village for all my +Buy, and Border Village's whenever I got $6.

In the case you describe, I think BV is the one I would leave out. WM is good for sifting, as you say. WV for +Buy (unless I have a better source, e.g. Margrave). Then I favour FV for added reliability and lower cost. BV competes with Gold and its benefit is less important if I am already loaded with other villages. I might take it if the draw card is $5 and I hit $6 before getting my first copy of it. I might also take BV if there is TfB. But yeah, with lots of cheap villages and draw, I would rather have the Gold so that there is something good to draw.

Now that I think about it, your right.

Does anybody want to play that board on Goko?

[StrongRhino]

besides orange cards are the coolest looking

Yes, they are. Nothing says "Look at my powerful deck" like some orange cards out in front of you like construction signs. The color choices in Dominion are great - let's run through them:

• Action: White - The card you'll be using the most, and thus the most generic looking
• Treasure: Yellow - All that gold running through your fingers
• Victory: Green - Plays very much into the idea of land, and victory in this game is quiet and unsuspecting, much like the color green itself
• Reaction: Blue - Blue is unspoken, subverted, ready to jump from the shadows at a moment's notice
• Curse: Purple - The color of evil and despair. 'Nuff said.
• Ruins: Brown - Not evil, per se, so much as useless. Like dirt or ash.
• Shelter: Red - The "we ran out of colors" card
• Duration: Orange - Nothing says "permanence" like a nice bright construction zone color

Fixed it for you.

[SirPeebles]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

(Soc Awk Peng)

OK, I looked at that again, and I realize that's a joke now - he breaks so many rules about the game (for instance, including the fact that you can buy Copper with 0) that it's obvious that he knows he's doing it. I know as well that I'm Autistic, and thus have trouble detecting sarcasm, especially if it's especially well masked like this was. In the future, I'd appreciate it if I wasn't Socially Awkward Pengined.

Of course, one of the things I hate the most is when people are dead serious or purposefully misleading about something that logic or math can prove is flat out wrong. I had to deal with that last night - my younger brother wanted to watch a marathon of a show with almost 24 hours of content, and he staunchly insisted, despite all the evidence clouding around him, that a 14-hour video of all the content was on Youtube. I have a particular hatred for these things because they just create too much confusion and can be extremely misleading to those who don't know.

I'm really really sorry about that; I read your previous post as having a somewhat condescending tone, so that's how I responded.  If you'd like, I can take it down.

Well, yes, I would agree that I was being condescending. When I initially saw the video (and I actually stopped when he said the worst card was Chapel and didn't even see the terrible strategy he did with it), I saw a guy who clearly didn't know how to play Dominion and yet hubristically pretended he did, and I didn't think that was funny at all and thought lower of him. You were right to call me out - but I felt that using a meme like that was a little too much. I forgive you for that.

Also, just to clarify, you can indeed buy a Copper with $0. As far as I know, he never breaks any of the rules of the game, he just plays purposely terribly.

At the end of the Chapel segment, he says that all he has is a Chapel and that he can't buy anything.  If you take that literally, it suggests that you can't buy Copper.

[mail-mi]

• Duration: Orange - Nothing says "permanence" like a nice bright construction zone color

OMGOSH utah construction... shudder.

[AdamH]

This dude is a Village Idiot. Plain and simple. And he called Chapel the worst card in the game, which is simply not true. It was hard for me to believe that this guy was actually serious about his strategy - how could he have gotten Colony in his hand if he bought nothing but Village?

(Soc Awk Peng)

OK, I looked at that again, and I realize that's a joke now - he breaks so many rules about the game (for instance, including the fact that you can buy Copper with 0) that it's obvious that he knows he's doing it. I know as well that I'm Autistic, and thus have trouble detecting sarcasm, especially if it's especially well masked like this was. In the future, I'd appreciate it if I wasn't Socially Awkward Pengined.

Of course, one of the things I hate the most is when people are dead serious or purposefully misleading about something that logic or math can prove is flat out wrong. I had to deal with that last night - my younger brother wanted to watch a marathon of a show with almost 24 hours of content, and he staunchly insisted, despite all the evidence clouding around him, that a 14-hour video of all the content was on Youtube. I have a particular hatred for these things because they just create too much confusion and can be extremely misleading to those who don't know.

I'm really really sorry about that; I read your previous post as having a somewhat condescending tone, so that's how I responded.  If you'd like, I can take it down.

Well, yes, I would agree that I was being condescending. When I initially saw the video (and I actually stopped when he said the worst card was Chapel and didn't even see the terrible strategy he did with it), I saw a guy who clearly didn't know how to play Dominion and yet hubristically pretended he did, and I didn't think that was funny at all and thought lower of him. You were right to call me out - but I felt that using a meme like that was a little too much. I forgive you for that.

Also, just to clarify, you can indeed buy a Copper with $0. As far as I know, he never breaks any of the rules of the game, he just plays purposely terribly.

His opponent breaks a ton of rules. In the second "Example" you can see his cards and he's just making stuff up. His last "I buy a Province" is just not possible even with perfect shuffle luck.

I linked the video for the "I would buy Village if it cost seven!" quote. I didn't intend for this whole thing to come up. I just think this video is hilarious.