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« on: August 21, 2013, 11:24:07 am »
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There's been talk of a thread here to discuss Survivor. I didn't see one so I guess I'll make one for this upcoming season. Survivor 27: Blood vs. Water.

Big news happened this morning, when the cast was officially released along with several other terrible, horrible things they're doing to the game this season:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/08/21/survivor-blood-vs-water-new-cast-and-lots-of-twists-revealed/

I wonder how long it will take me to go from my current "I will not be watching this season" to the inevitable "ZOMG SURVIVOR MUST WATCH DON'T CARE HOW BAD IT IS!!!!!11111oneoneoneoen" Any predictions?

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My knee-jerk thoughts on the cast:

Man, I love Rupert but I just feel like putting him here is a bad idea. Did I ever mention that Rupert touched my saxophone?

Tyson and Colton are my other favorite returners. I will be prepared to have a party at my house the night each of the Culpeppers is eliminated.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2013, 01:35:39 pm »
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COLTON AUGH I NEVER WANTED TO SEE HIS FACE AGAIN





Ahem. Looks like quite a shake up. I am generally ok with them doing big experiments and twists like this as long as they only keep the things that really work for future seasons. I think the strategy will be there. I think the drama will be there. I'm excited.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 01:38:54 pm »
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So do you believe that Redemption Island ever worked?
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2013, 01:52:09 pm »
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH.

Every single thing about this concept is infuriating. And I enjoy returning players, but not every single season, for fucks sake. HATE the loved ones/partner concept. HATE Redemption Island. Bad bad bad.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2013, 02:38:37 pm »
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Loved ones sounds very gimmicky. The whole trading places thing is strange. I'm not really a fan of Redemption island either. I like the 'All Stars' thing, but like Robz said, it becomes less cool if you do it every season. I really think just straight up Survivor is appealing enough because even though the game is the same, it's the people that make it interesting. And I think when they keep bringing back past competitors, it loses that sort of 'newness'. Like, those past competitors have a reputation (a meta, if you will) and people are aware and play based on that.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2013, 02:41:10 pm »
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I'm also surprised Rob and Amber aren't here. But it may be because they're already too good at the game.  :P
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2013, 02:42:24 pm »
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I'm pretty sure Amber has been asked back after S8 and has declined...
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2013, 02:52:21 pm »
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I'm pretty sure Amber has been asked back after S8 and has declined...
Ah, ok. That makes much more sense.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2013, 04:07:48 pm »
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It's just becoming like this club of the same people and their relatives playing over and over again, and it's getting progressively less fun to watch.

I LOVE the All Star seasons, but they have to mix in some regular seasons. The novelty of seeing Rupert come back is really, really wearing off.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2013, 04:20:18 pm »
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It's just becoming like this club of the same people and their relatives playing over and over again, and it's getting progressively less fun to watch.

I LOVE the All Star seasons, but they have to mix in some regular seasons. The novelty of seeing Rupert come back is really, really wearing off.

This kind of thing is especially offensive to die-hard fans of the show who have been applying over and over again. I'm not getting picked because they wanted to do THIS? It's a slap in the face, really.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2013, 09:54:24 pm »
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I like bringing back players who have proven to be entertaining (Rupert!), but that's just about the only good thing about this season and the people they are bringing back aren't even that entertaining. Well, if you are going to bring back redemption island, I like having the loved one getting to sub in if he/she wants to (might create some interesting decisions), but that's about it. Disappointed to have something this lackluster to be the first survivor season I'll be following in real time but I'll be looking to place some hefty bets elsewhere and follow and discuss the events here with you guys. Generally I think the producers know what they are doing so maybe this will turn out fine.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2013, 11:52:53 pm »
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So do you believe that Redemption Island ever worked?

Eh, not really. That's what I'm looking forward to the least (besides Colton!!!) of what's spoiled so far, but I agree with Archetype that the sub-in thing at least adds some interesting decisions.

I also agree about the returning players, and I do wish it were all new players this season. But I've been concerned about that in the past and it's turned out really surprisingly well (Heroes vs Villains anyone?). So I am eternally optimistic!
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2013, 01:36:08 pm »
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH.

Every single thing about this concept is infuriating. And I enjoy returning players, but not every single season, for fucks sake. HATE the loved ones/partner concept. HATE Redemption Island. Bad bad bad.

AHEM,

(14 year old me speaking to robz) hey you know what would be awesome if when i got older I applied for survivor and they did like a siblings thing and we could play together and have like secret alliances and all that awesome stuff.

(18 year old robz speaking to me) That's an awful idea and they would absolutely never do it, you could never let family members make it to the end.

Looks like you were wroooooooooooooooooooooooooooong. nananananana(thats 14 year old me gloating, I'm more mature than that of course)
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 12:14:34 pm »
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Eugh. I'm just not pumped, even after seeing the first episode. Rupert is not very smart. Yeah. There aren't even that many people I really like. Maybe Caleb? I like Tyson but we didn't even hear from him at all...

There are a lot of people I don't like who I will be happy when they are eliminated. They can't all win so it's guaranteed to happen at some point, right?
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 12:27:52 pm »
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Eugh. I'm just not pumped, even after seeing the first episode. Rupert is not very smart. Yeah. There aren't even that many people I really like. Maybe Caleb? I like Tyson but we didn't even hear from him at all...

There are a lot of people I don't like who I will be happy when they are eliminated. They can't all win so it's guaranteed to happen at some point, right?

So, I am so against the reutnring players + loved ones + redemption island (seriously, NO ONE likes redemption island, why do this???)... but actually this episode was kind of interesting I thought. Mostly because some of the loved ones are interesting in their own right--specifically Aras's brother, the teen mom, and the football guy.

That Colton did not get even a single vote in that opening thing made me furious, however. Actually, it smacks of producer manipulation. Why would they not insta-vote for him? He is so so so awful.

Voting off Gervase's niece because Gervase--on the other team, no less--was a jerk is like the weirdest rationale for voting ever, but okay.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2013, 01:12:44 pm »
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The returning players must have made some alliances before the show, the first votes on the beach seemed pretty coordinated. I too was shocked to not see Colton's name there.

Aras and Vytas are crushing it this far. I'm also rooting for Hayden, he seems likeable. I'm surprised Gervase was popular back in the day, he seems both useless and kind of a dick. I wouldn't be surprised to see Aras taking him to the end with him.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2013, 01:14:14 pm »
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Candice's husband is so much like Candice. Publicly receiving a clue to the idol, being a part of strong alliance and not telling others what it is seems like a god-awful move.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2013, 01:46:50 pm »
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Candice's husband is so much like Candice. Publicly receiving a clue to the idol, being a part of strong alliance and not telling others what it is seems like a god-awful move.

I really felt for him, though. Like, he was clearly trying to not harm his alliance, but also he wanted to help his wife, and the two goals were totally at odds... and he realized it, too.

That was a very, very interesting second episode, and it was also very genuine. Like, the interesting strategic landscape followed naturally from the rules the producers set, which is vastly preferable. Sometimes it seems like they are overly manipulating things.

Colton continues to be insufferable. He is the worst. And he's awful in ways that are fundamentally different from like a "Master of Chaos" player like Russell Hantz, whose nefariousness was underlined by legitimate strategy. Colton is just stirring the pot for no reason at all. He's a detriment to his tribe in every conceivable sense. I hope they vote him off immediately. He does make everyone else look really good by comparison, though. I loved Aras alliance with the other vets, and they were just like, "We aren't going to listen to him, if he says shit we will immediately talk it out with each other and know that he is probably lying, and that's it." Competence is awesome.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2013, 01:51:21 pm »
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I don't for the life of me understand what someone like Caleb who seems like a good guy sees in Colton. Truly a mysterious pair.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 04:55:20 pm »
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Candice's husband is so much like Candice. Publicly receiving a clue to the idol, being a part of strong alliance and not telling others what it is seems like a god-awful move.

I really felt for him, though. Like, he was clearly trying to not harm his alliance, but also he wanted to help his wife, and the two goals were totally at odds... and he realized it, too.

That was a very, very interesting second episode, and it was also very genuine. Like, the interesting strategic landscape followed naturally from the rules the producers set, which is vastly preferable. Sometimes it seems like they are overly manipulating things.

Colton continues to be insufferable. He is the worst. And he's awful in ways that are fundamentally different from like a "Master of Chaos" player like Russell Hantz, whose nefariousness was underlined by legitimate strategy. Colton is just stirring the pot for no reason at all. He's a detriment to his tribe in every conceivable sense. I hope they vote him off immediately. He does make everyone else look really good by comparison, though. I loved Aras alliance with the other vets, and they were just like, "We aren't going to listen to him, if he says shit we will immediately talk it out with each other and know that he is probably lying, and that's it." Competence is awesome.

I could not agree with this more. If anything, Colton is even more pathetic for not learning anything in the 2-3 years after he was basically humiliated in front of millions.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2013, 08:25:50 pm »
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If I recall correctly, Colton was only "humiliated" for his racist remarks, of which I can't recall any of them that he's made this season. He was extremely good at getting people to do what he wanted in S24 at their own detriment, which I think is really good game play.

So some things about Colton are the same and some of them are different. You may not like some of them, but we have yet to see whether or not any of them are effective. He still hasn't been to tribal council yet so there's no telling what is going to actually stick. I don't blame him at all for attempting to keep the parts of his game that worked so heavily in his favor. It doesn't make sense to me when people criticize players for doing that and then saying they didn't learn anything.

Look, sometimes doing things that are unsavory IRL can get you really far in Survivor. If you don't like that, fine, but I haven't seen a criticism of his gameplay yet that you couldn't have said about his S24 gameplay, which was really effective. If he gets voted out for it, fine, then you are right, but not a minute before then.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2013, 08:11:56 pm »
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2013, 09:38:25 pm »
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I found the latest episode a bit dull, except for the treatment Probst gave Colton.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2013, 08:41:13 am »
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So of course there's no defending Colton at this point. I mean even I was willing to see what happened on his tribe but he wasn't able to suck it up and play the game, even if he thought his chances were bad. And of course Probst being hard on him was almost completely deserved.

...but I will have to rewatch his exit from One World again, I'm extremely skeptical that he could have faked it to the point where medical would have removed him from the game. That's quite an accusation to make to say that he faked a medical emergency (especially right after Shamar last season) and then to air it? That's really bold.

People left that I would like to see win: Tyson. Uhh, is there anyone else? At all? Let's think for a minute... maybe Candice but man I don't think so.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2013, 11:00:41 am »
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How can someone not root for Aras? As Robz put it, competence is awesome.

I agree Tyson is very likeable as well. Why Candice?
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2013, 11:08:53 am »
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I didn't like Aras in his first season and I don't like him now for the same reason. He's so arrogant and patronizing when he talks to people. I mean I feel like he's played OK so far in both seasons but I don't think he really worked that hard for his win before. I just don't like him.

Candice? I'm not sure why, I don't even know whether or not I'm rooting for her. I'm grasping at straws for people I don't actively hate that are left: Tyson's g/f was one of them just because of Tyson, but now she's gone. I have some resentment for the "loved ones" because they were cast over people like me who applied to be on the show and would appreciate the experience so much more. The returning players, well Rupert has always been a favorite of mine but he decided he didn't want to play this season, and Colton has been a huge disappointment. So yeah.

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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2013, 11:14:49 am »
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Maybe I should start working on my audition video?
Yes!

Some of the loved ones are certainly more entertaining than the returning players, Culpepper and Cirie (?) come to mind.

I feel this season is shaping up to be pretty good drama, but pretty low in survivor strategy content. Pre-show made alliances and the returning players tribe are dominating the game right now. The merge could get super interesting though.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2013, 11:37:23 am »
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ZOMG online applications are due in 10 days! Well I know what I'm doing this weekend for-sure-sies. I should come up with what I'm going to say in the video. Robz said in another thread that you should have an "angle" and I'm thinking that I'll play up the fanboy angle.
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2013, 11:42:41 am »
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ZOMG online applications are due in 10 days! Well I know what I'm doing this weekend for-sure-sies. I should come up with what I'm going to say in the video. Robz said in another thread that you should have an "angle" and I'm thinking that I'll play up the fanboy angle.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2013, 11:44:06 am »
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ZOMG online applications are due in 10 days! Well I know what I'm doing this weekend for-sure-sies. I should come up with what I'm going to say in the video. Robz said in another thread that you should have an "angle" and I'm thinking that I'll play up the fanboy angle.

I've been trying to figure out how to explain to them that I am perfect for the game because I spend all day playing online Survivor-esque games of deception.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2013, 11:46:54 am »
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My gosh you guys, please apply.

I am thinking about applying in the next couple of years. I want to wait until I'm no longer a student and I have time to really prepare myself.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2013, 11:48:42 am »
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This will be my third year applying. They haven't called me back yet.
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« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2013, 11:58:00 am »
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This will be my sixth time applying, I think? They called me back once, it was the most exciting phone call of my life.
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2013, 02:04:02 pm »
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This will be my sixth time applying, I think? They called me back once, it was the most exciting phone call of my life.

Yea I feel like running a full fledged survivor game should count for something. Same with playing
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Re: Survivor 27
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2013, 07:44:18 am »
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I'm liking this season more and more as it progresses!

Hayden is my new favorite, dude is just really likable and seems quite competent.

Brad is such a boon for this season. Makes me think they might have planned getting him to play when contacting Monica.
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2013, 12:54:11 pm »
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2013, 01:03:45 pm »
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I'm really like Vytas. He's clearly a villain, but a subtle and understated one who efficiently lets these louder personalities take the brunt of the blame.
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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2013, 12:43:44 am »
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So this episode: such a stupid move for Ciera to make. I really was rooting for her up until now but that move was just so likely to end up so badly for her. Making the final four is the best you can ask for because the last vote is basically up to the person who wins final immunity and it's based off of who can win in front of a jury, not "loyalty" (whatever that means). I mean, good on Hayden for invoking a misplay out of her but I thought she was better than that.

I really like the way Tyson has been playing. His comment "your seat is over there" was directed towards Hayden I think, not Katie. I think he's in a great spot too, and since Ciera and I are on a break, I'll be rooting for Tyson to win. This may not be the most popular opinion but oh well.
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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2013, 04:56:53 am »
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Boooo! #teamhayden


I suspect no one but laura m really wants to take ciera to the
end. A single teenage mother just has a pretty compelling case for the million regardless of her gameplay (and on top of that, everyone seems to really like ciera). I'd
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I'm not happy someone is coming back from redemption still. Redemption is stupid, post-merge redemption is super-stupid.
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2013, 08:32:18 am »
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I might have been OK with redemption if they stopped it at the merge. Sure, give someone another shot at the game if they were an early boot. Go right ahead.

But I have two big issues with continuing after the merge. First, the first two or three people to get booted right away have exactly the same situation in the first duel, so there's really no incentive to stick around for three more days since you're in the same duel anyways.

The other one is that they put the returning person back in the game so late! It becomes a viable strategy to just try and win challenges, so the last few votes of the game are centered around that rather than any type of strategy or loyalty. That whole dynamic of "your alliance took out everyone else and now you have to turn on each other. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN NOW?!!???!?!??!?!!?!??!??!?!" is totally gone, which can be the thing that saves an otherwise boring season like S23.

That plus individual rewards are so cool and you give those up.
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« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2014, 02:19:57 am »
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Sorry for the necro, but I know that there are some big Survivor fans on the forums and I didn't want to start a whole new thread...

There's an interesting Kickstarter for 6 different games that are composed of only 54 cards (and minimal other components).  I haven't taken a closer look at them yet, but one of them appears to be a card game version of Survivor.  Figured some people here might be interested.  Check it out!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dicehateme/big-games-for-small-pockets-dice-hate-mes-54-card/
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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2014, 08:46:26 am »
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Also in the line of not making a new thread, anyone like to discuss season 28?
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2014, 08:52:11 am »
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I've always wanted them to take three tribes into the merge, or at least longer than 4 episodes. It's so disappointing that they won't explore this possibility when I think it would be really amazing.

The Brain group, while most of them were idiots (and are now no longer in the game) appear to be actual fans of the show, which made me want to root for them even more. The Beauty group, well, I just want them gone, and this last episode is exactly why, Spencer said it perfectly. That plus they were only cast because they "look good" (though I don't really agree with that but whatevs) and I wish they would just take more applicants. Like me. Braun, whatever. No real strong feelings, though I like the cops so far. That bald cop buy whose name I can't remember right now seems to be playing pretty well and as much as they're showing him I assume he'll go far. I'm interested to see what he'll do.
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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2014, 01:19:36 pm »
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I've always wanted them to take three tribes into the merge, or at least longer than 4 episodes. It's so disappointing that they won't explore this possibility when I think it would be really amazing.

The Brain group, while most of them were idiots (and are now no longer in the game) appear to be actual fans of the show, which made me want to root for them even more. The Beauty group, well, I just want them gone, and this last episode is exactly why, Spencer said it perfectly. That plus they were only cast because they "look good" (though I don't really agree with that but whatevs) and I wish they would just take more applicants. Like me. Braun, whatever. No real strong feelings, though I like the cops so far. That bald cop buy whose name I can't remember right now seems to be playing pretty well and as much as they're showing him I assume he'll go far. I'm interested to see what he'll do.

I'm loving this season, though not because there is a character I'm really rooting for, but rather because they are all fairly entertaining. LJ is probably the closest to the person I am rooting for right now, just because he seems the most competent.

I find Tony (the bald cop) highly entertaining, but I disagree strongly that he is playing "pretty well." I think he was clearly overplaying. His "feed lies to the other cop" plan was really stupid and could have blown up his whole tribe for no reason. And I'm pretty skeptical that ousting Cliff was a good move. For one thing, no mater how much you distrust him, keeping brawn people in the game for the eventual merge has to still be te best approach. For another, concerns about being like a physical threat were absurd. Yeah, he's going to win basketball related challenges, but there's no way that will constitute a high percentage of remaining challenges. And we know there are exactly two physical types of players that become dominating challenge streak threats: The generally strong, stocky older man (think Terry or Tom Westman), and the lanky runner man (Erik, Fabio, Ozzy). I think Woo is far more likely to be a later challenge threat than Cliff, although it's too early to be thinking like this anyway.

It was kind of hilarious how dumb the beauty people were, wanting to spill everything in five seconds. I don't really like Spencer all that much, but I was sort of happy for him and Cass and that other girl.
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« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2014, 01:55:50 pm »
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I'm loving this season, though not because there is a character I'm really rooting for, but rather because they are all fairly entertaining. LJ is probably the closest to the person I am rooting for right now, just because he seems the most competent.

I find Tony (the bald cop) highly entertaining, but I disagree strongly that he is playing "pretty well." I think he was clearly overplaying. His "feed lies to the other cop" plan was really stupid and could have blown up his whole tribe for no reason. And I'm pretty skeptical that ousting Cliff was a good move.

I bet you thought Russell Hantz was overplaying, too. Well I think he did about the right amount in playing in S19 because it worked out for him. Maybe Tony is overplaying, maybe he's underplaying; maybe voting Cliff off now was a good move, maybe it was a bad move; I think it's too early to tell. But I like where he's going and I think he's going to do very well. If I have to pick one person right now with the highest chances of winning the game, it's him. And I like him.


I don't really like Spencer all that much, but I was sort of happy for him and Cass and that other girl.

I like all three of them, especially Spencer <3 <3 <3

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« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2014, 02:10:06 pm »
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I'm loving this season, though not because there is a character I'm really rooting for, but rather because they are all fairly entertaining. LJ is probably the closest to the person I am rooting for right now, just because he seems the most competent.

I find Tony (the bald cop) highly entertaining, but I disagree strongly that he is playing "pretty well." I think he was clearly overplaying. His "feed lies to the other cop" plan was really stupid and could have blown up his whole tribe for no reason. And I'm pretty skeptical that ousting Cliff was a good move.

I bet you thought Russell Hantz was overplaying, too. Well I think he did about the right amount in playing in S19 because it worked out for him. Maybe Tony is overplaying, maybe he's underplaying; maybe voting Cliff off now was a good move, maybe it was a bad move; I think it's too early to tell. But I like where he's going and I think he's going to do very well. If I have to pick one person right now with the highest chances of winning the game, it's him. And I like him.

No, I was a big Russel Hantz fan, especially the first time, when he absolutely should have won. (The second time, Parvati should have won, even he admitted.)

I think Russel's machinations were more logical than Tony's. I guess I could be wrong though.
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« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2014, 02:12:46 pm »
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Well Tony's social game is very different from Russell's was, and I'm sure a lot went into his decision this time that we didn't get to see because it was the suspense for this vote; that's why I say it's too early to tell.
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« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2014, 02:23:13 pm »
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There are a lot of likeable people this season, I think. I really like all the remaining brain tribe people (Kass is hilarious), JT, the cops (though I agree that Tony is taking a lot of risks, could definitely come back to bite him), Woo, and even Morgan and that other dark-haired beauty girl seem cool. I liked Cliff a lot so I was sad to see him go, also sad for what this probably means for Woo.
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« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2014, 02:26:15 pm »
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I can't believe you guys liked Russell. I mean, he had an excellent game in certain ways but he was just such a slime. I guess I have a hard time separating the player from the person sometimes. I rooted against him every time, though I respected the fact that he deserved to at least make it to the finals. As a fan of the show, I am glad that he was a player, but the guy was the ultimate in unlikeability.
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« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2014, 02:30:48 pm »
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he was just such a slime.

Why was he a slime? Because he lied in a game of Survivor? ;D

I mean, it's really not difficult to see he was edited to be a villain. Yeah he said some things in the context of a game that can be objectionable, but it's really easy to tell that he isn't a bad person. I mean, I watched every episode of his show "Flipped Off," which I'm pretty sure is a better glimpse into who he really is than Survivor is.
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« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2014, 03:37:05 pm »
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he was just such a slime.

Why was he a slime? Because he lied in a game of Survivor? ;D

I mean, it's really not difficult to see he was edited to be a villain. Yeah he said some things in the context of a game that can be objectionable, but it's really easy to tell that he isn't a bad person. I mean, I watched every episode of his show "Flipped Off," which I'm pretty sure is a better glimpse into who he really is than Survivor is.

Well he was arrested for battery, for one. He made some pretty awful comments about Brandon on Brandon's first season. He allegedly leaked the results of a couple of different seasons to a fan site.

I mean, he was definitely a villain in the context of the game, and maybe he's not the worst person in the world, but he seems like a pretty bad dude to me.
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« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2014, 03:42:57 pm »
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he was just such a slime.

Why was he a slime? Because he lied in a game of Survivor? ;D

I mean, it's really not difficult to see he was edited to be a villain. Yeah he said some things in the context of a game that can be objectionable, but it's really easy to tell that he isn't a bad person. I mean, I watched every episode of his show "Flipped Off," which I'm pretty sure is a better glimpse into who he really is than Survivor is.

Well he was arrested for battery, for one. He made some pretty awful comments about Brandon on Brandon's first season. He allegedly leaked the results of a couple of different seasons to a fan site.

I mean, he was definitely a villain in the context of the game, and maybe he's not the worst person in the world, but he seems like a pretty bad dude to me.

When he was arrested, he was never charged with anything because the woman that accused him admitted she was lying.

Awful comments about Brandon? Brandon said some things about Russell and I don't even know of anything personal that was said between the two in that space. So they play the game differently and disagree publicly. If you watch the season finale of Flipped Off you'll see how close-knit that family is despite the fact that they play a game differently. Besides, Brandon Hantz is an idiot anyways, but that's besides the point  :P

The rumor I thought was that his now ex-wife was the one giving out the spoilers, not Russell.

He was edited on a TV show to play a "villain" role because of the way he played, yes. Maybe he's not the best person in the world, but he seems like a pretty good dude to me.
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« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2014, 04:03:20 pm »
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I'm glad to hear that the arrest was overblown! I didn't want to believe that he was a real-life bad guy after watching the show (even though I never liked him much in the show anyway) but when I heard that I thought the case seemed pretty closed.

The comments about Brandon were during the reunion show. Russell was in the audience and asked what he thought about Brandon's play and whether he was proud of him (Brandon's placement was mediocre). Russell didn't really try to hide his disappointment. Despite their clearly different playstyles, Russell really should have had more class here.

I guess the spoiler thing will remain a mystery since nothing can really be proven.
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« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2014, 04:07:56 pm »
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I agree with robz entirely(shocker) I think tony has a Russell wannabe attitude. As robz pointed out he had no reason to lie to the cop girl and made the manifestly wrong decision to keep a non-tribal member(who had an idol) LJ around and remove an ally in cliff. He jumped ship to a 4 man alliance which doesn't have strong ties to people on the other tribe, and left his secure Braun alliance, not to mention he is the bottom of this new alliance instead of the top of the old.

The brain tribe deserves everything they get for being idiots(I like specer simply because he hasn't really made bad choices, he had just been victim to his tribe mates idiocracy)

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« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2014, 04:10:46 pm »
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I don't think Russell did anything wrong in saying he did not like Brandon's play, it wasn't so much that Brandon did not place well it was because Brandon was an embarrassing lunatic on the show.
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« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2014, 04:11:35 pm »
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Well Brandon did compare Russell to Hitler and other such things over the course of S23. I'd be disappointed if I was him. I'm not saying everything was handled perfectly but it certainly doesn't justify the reputation Russell seems to have.

Those three brain people that are gone, I mean they were just complete idiots. I think the three brains remaining are quite smart and the three that are gone had no business being on a tribe that claims to be smart. I'd love nothing more than to see the three of them go far together because they don't have those other three dragging them down. And I'd love to see Spencer <3 <3 <3 win it all ;D
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« Reply #56 on: March 24, 2014, 04:16:17 pm »
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I do think Russell let his true personality through a couple times, and it did not come off as the world's greatest guy. We got to meet Brandon's dad, too, and the entire Hantz clan struck me as pretty dysfunctional.

I don't think there is any evidence that Russell is like an actually evil person, though. His ability to actually commend other players who made good moves always impressed me--like when he said Parvati actually deserved to win, and that Sandra burning his hat was a great move, and that Rob played a great game in that one where Rob played a great game.

You also can't deny the brutal efficiency of Russell's strategy. His moves the first two times were just amazing. I mean, in a head-to-head strategic battle, he totally wrecked Rob and Tyson, who had a supermajority at the time!

Russell's third outing, it wasn't even his fault he was voted out, because his tribe decided they would rather all lose the game then put up with him for another day. So they all lost the game!
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« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2014, 04:16:32 pm »
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@Mcmc I did not at all understand the reasoning behind taking cliff out. It seemed like Tony was really getting spooked early despite EVERYTHING going well for the Brawn tribe. He then carried that over even past the tribe switch when they had the numbers. It seemed crazy to me, maybe there was a lot more antagonism there that didn't make it to the final edit or something. And again, it makes me sad because I really liked Cliff and still like Woo (and that other girl they're with seems alright too). It IS a pretty interesting development in the game though. I found it intriguing that the majority of the Beauty tribe just broke down and let themselves get manhandled by the Brains, while the two others were able to exploit the cracks in the Brawn tribe's armor.
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« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2014, 04:18:17 pm »
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J'Tia is the new worst Survivor in the history of the game. She possessed praiseworthy levels of self-righteousness, obnoxiousness, challenge incompetence, social unawareness, and wrathful insanity.
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« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2014, 04:19:26 pm »
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OK then, when Tony's move turns out to be amazing once the merge happens, let the record show that I called it and nobody agreed with me.

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The thing I like most about Tony is his attitude. He has this fun, positive, I-may-totally-backstab-you-but-it's-just-a-game, vibe that I like.
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« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2014, 04:22:50 pm »
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You also can't deny the brutal efficiency of Russell's strategy. His moves the first two times were just amazing. I mean, in a head-to-head strategic battle, he totally wrecked Rob and Tyson, who had a supermajority at the time!

Oh no, it was efficient and effective. I mean, he was going out and finding idols like mad, and making plays that nobody else had pulled off before. That's some real originality to be new and fresh after almost 20 seasons.

But I always said that he played a great game to get to the end, not to win the whole thing. He simply made too many enemies. People didn't like his cockiness, people didn't like that he went above and beyond the game with his tricks and vindictiveness, people just didn't like him. Maybe that's not his fault (or maybe it is), but it's a huge factor in winning the game. His first season, I think almost everyone would have begrudgingly voted for him had not that one guy on the jury made a great speech to let everyone know that yeah, it was ok to vote for Natalie.
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« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2014, 04:25:30 pm »
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OK then, when Tony's move turns out to be amazing once the merge happens, let the record show that I called it and nobody agreed with me.

...and if I'm wrong, well, then, what else is new? :P

I'm not saying you're wrong. I agree with Robz that he's overplaying, but that sometimes totally works out! It's different every season.

The thing I like most about Tony is his attitude. He has this fun, positive, I-may-totally-backstab-you-but-it's-just-a-game, vibe that I like.

I like this about him too. I like Woo for a similar reason. He was totally considering Sarah's plan to take out Cliff, although that got interrupted. Great attitude about the weather too, he just seems like a genuinely cool guy who's so excited to be out there playing the game.
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« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2014, 04:27:09 pm »
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You also can't deny the brutal efficiency of Russell's strategy. His moves the first two times were just amazing. I mean, in a head-to-head strategic battle, he totally wrecked Rob and Tyson, who had a supermajority at the time!

Oh no, it was efficient and effective. I mean, he was going out and finding idols like mad, and making plays that nobody else had pulled off before. That's some real originality to be new and fresh after almost 20 seasons.

But I always said that he played a great game to get to the end, not to win the whole thing. He simply made too many enemies. People didn't like his cockiness, people didn't like that he went above and beyond the game with his tricks and vindictiveness, people just didn't like him. Maybe that's not his fault (or maybe it is), but it's a huge factor in winning the game. His first season, I think almost everyone would have begrudgingly voted for him had not that one guy on the jury made a great speech to let everyone know that yeah, it was ok to vote for Natalie.

Sure, and I mean, it is definitely a flaw in your game if you make everybody too mad to vote for you. We have seen plenty of brilliant strategic players screw everybody over and still get their votes, most recently Tyson.

I think the jury was stupidly vindictive when they had Natalie beat Russell, though.

The next time, I personally would have voted for Parvati, but I can't begrudge Sandra's victory. She has the game figured out, obviously, and Russell made a huge mistake not taking her out earlier.
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« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2014, 04:29:44 pm »
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But I can't begrudge Sandra's victory. She has the game figured out, obviously, and Russell made a huge mistake not taking her out earlier.

This is something that's always bothered me: I think Sandra didn't deserve her second win (you can argue that she didn't deserve her first, but I think she did). That game was Parvati's and she should have won it.

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« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2014, 04:34:25 pm »
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But I can't begrudge Sandra's victory. She has the game figured out, obviously, and Russell made a huge mistake not taking her out earlier.

This is something that's always bothered me: I think Sandra didn't deserve her second win (you can argue that she didn't deserve her first, but I think she did). That game was Parvati's and she should have won it.

Unfortunately I don't have the time right now to support this, so you'll have to wait until I get more time to type that up.

Yes, I would have voted for Parvati. But the Jury was composed entirely of people who liked Sandra personally because she reached out to them. She was dangerous and they should have taken her out earlier, probably over Danielle or something.

Actually, I'm STILL not sure why they eliminated Courtney instead of Sandra before the merge. That was Russell and Parvat's game-losing move.
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« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2014, 04:38:08 pm »
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So we should have some sort of Survivor skype watch party sometime to talk about what we think of the season. I don't know who you guys typically watch with and if that would be awkward, but I would love to try it sometime!
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« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2014, 04:38:58 pm »
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Or at least discuss it live on this thread. I think we all watch it on Eastern or Central time, yes?
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« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2014, 04:40:14 pm »
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When I was in college I had a group of friends that I watched the show with. I've been told it's very entertaining to watch me watch Survivor.

Unfortunately, I can almost never watch the show live anymore, so I usually catch it on my DVR when I get a chance, which is frequently on Sunday or something  :(
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« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2014, 04:45:11 pm »
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When I was in college I had a group of friends that I watched the show with. I've been told it's very entertaining to watch me watch Survivor.

Unfortunately, I can almost never watch the show live anymore, so I usually catch it on my DVR when I get a chance, which is frequently on Sunday or something  :(

Sad. :( I have a group that I watch with, I've made addicts out of all my friends.
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« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2014, 06:13:37 pm »
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Me and Kaitlin(gf) watch it together and should most likely be watching it live from now on. I would love to do some kind of skype/live chat viewing, but I'm not sure about her. I have lots of online friends that are closer than many irl friends and many that crossover into both realms, so I am super comfortable/love interweaving online community with as many channels as possible. She's still getting used to it.
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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2014, 07:44:36 pm »
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Anyone else watching in 15 minutes?
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« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2014, 07:50:32 pm »
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Me and Kaitlin(gf) watch it together and should most likely be watching it live from now on. I would love to do some kind of skype/live chat viewing, but I'm not sure about her. I have lots of online friends that are closer than many irl friends and many that crossover into both realms, so I am super comfortable/love interweaving online community with as many channels as possible. She's still getting used to it.

What you are saying here is essentially you are embarrissed about us? (Is it Dsell? It's Dsell isnt it?)
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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2014, 07:52:08 pm »
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Me and Kaitlin(gf) watch it together and should most likely be watching it live from now on. I would love to do some kind of skype/live chat viewing, but I'm not sure about her. I have lots of online friends that are closer than many irl friends and many that crossover into both realms, so I am super comfortable/love interweaving online community with as many channels as possible. She's still getting used to it.

What you are saying here is essentially you are embarrissed about us? (Is it Dsell? It's Dsell isnt it?)

It usually is... :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2014, 07:52:57 pm »
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It's the drunk texting man, that's gotta stop!
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« Reply #75 on: March 26, 2014, 07:54:15 pm »
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I can't watch until later tonight.
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« Reply #76 on: March 26, 2014, 07:55:22 pm »
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I can't watch until later tonight.

Get it together, Robz!! ;D
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« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2014, 02:11:45 pm »
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Ah, so I avoided the thread until I could watch it later today so I could stay spoiler-free. Am I safe to talk about the last episode? Should we just say it's on individual people to not be spoiled by this thread?
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« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2014, 02:15:11 pm »
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I think it's on individuals to avoid the thread to stay away from spoilers, it will promote discusion.

As far as the vote went, I think the brai tribe finally showed some smarts by seperating the beauties into 2 fully individual players instead of allowing the girls to maintain a unit.
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« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2014, 02:17:38 pm »
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All right.

I have words for Lindsey, but I won't say them on this forum. I hope she regrets ever being recruited for the show and going on and the whole thing and I hope it haunts her for the rest of her stupid life. What a... umm... something.

Tony, I don't like the way he played this episode. One of the best things he had going for him was that people didn't suspect him and he totally ruined it because he made an emotional decision. Now we'll never know whether or not his plan to vote out Cliff would have worked out because he's screwed anyways.

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« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2014, 02:33:07 pm »
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There are exactly two people who quit the show for good reasons.

Jenna Morasco, who never should have played in the first place, because of her mother's health.
That Kathy (Cathy?) woman from the first Fans v. Favorites. I really felt bad for her. (She was sent to Exile Island like 8 times in a row, and played the whole game alone, by herself, in sad isolation.)

Lindsey, GRR! I would not give her water if I came across her in the desert, etc etc. Sue, etc.

Yeah, looks like I was right about Tony and you were wrong! Chronic overplayer. Blew every advantage he had.

I think the most likely scenario is that lady cop does defect back to Tony, but LJ and Jefra join Jermaine and Morgan in a big commitment with the Brain 3, leaving Tony's alliance in the minority. I mean, from LJ's perspective, why woud he want to stick with Tony, a crazy person and admitted liar?

In any case, I think the Brain 3 are in an absolutely dominating position. It would not surprise me if they are the final 3. Although I am also holding out hopes for my boy, LJ, who I think is playing the most competent game of all.
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« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2014, 02:43:56 pm »
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Yay people watched!

I just can't respect Lindsey's decision either. She said she did it because she knew she would have come to blows with Trisha (I watched the aftershow - Lindsey really is likeable so I was really sad to see her just quit) but I'm not convinced it would have been that way.

Tony was definitely crazy this episode. I like that he's doing crazy stuff and really playing the game (it's definitely entertaining), but he is playing way too hard. Strangely enough, the thing with Jeremiah ALMOST WORKED even though it was a really ham-fisted way of pulling that gambit. Jeremiah is just slow and a poor communicator.

Chanting "final 5" was dumb too, especially since they're going into the merge without numbers....I get that Tony's excited about playing the game, but he's wearing his excitement on his sleeve too much and showing off.

I felt pretty bad for Alexis, she was just so genuinely sad. She was actually starting to play the game too, even though she was completely wrong about Jeremiah. But she was definitely a post-merge flipping threat to the Brains, who are just clearly in charge at this point. If they do make it all the way, they might be the best final 3 ever. What a team!
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« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2014, 02:47:43 pm »
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LJ's issue is he's connected to Trisha and has issues with morgan(Morgan distrusts him)

I don't think the brain is actually I a good position, they are the only toght 3 and no one wants to join an alliance with no room post merge.
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« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2014, 09:56:43 pm »
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So, I'm finally caught up. I agree with most everything robz has been saying. Woo seems quite awesome, but I'm most rooting for spencer, not even close. LJ is in great shape, and I think Tasha (?) seemed quite competent as well. Tony is just super good tv, I hope he goes far.

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« Reply #84 on: March 29, 2014, 02:21:01 pm »
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But I can't begrudge Sandra's victory. She has the game figured out, obviously, and Russell made a huge mistake not taking her out earlier.

This is something that's always bothered me: I think Sandra didn't deserve her second win (you can argue that she didn't deserve her first, but I think she did). That game was Parvati's and she should have won it.

Unfortunately I don't have the time right now to support this, so you'll have to wait until I get more time to type that up.

So here's what I think about this:

Sandra is sitting at the finals with Russell and Parvati trying to make a case for why she should win the game. Trying to say all the cool things she did that make her deserve the title of Sole Survivor AGAIN. Now the Heroes, who made up a majority of jury members that season, all block-voted for her and that's why she won. I don't have respect for that vote because I don't really think Sandra did anything all that spectacular

Now you say "but he found a hidden immunity idol!" Well so did Russell and Parvati. Actually they both found one themselves and managed to get other players to give them an idol on top of that.

Sandra's entire strategy that game is said to be "as long as it's not me." Well, I mean, she did say that a lot, but what did she try and do during that game? She followed Boston Rob until that didn't work out and "as long as it's not me"-ed her way to the merge. OK fine, admirable, but definitely not anything special compared to what Russell and Parvati did pre-merge. Then once they merged, Sandra tried to get Russell voted out. That's literally all she did (other than the times when she did what Russell and Parvati told her to do), and Russell never got voted out! The one thing she tried to do for herself was something the failed to do! Why did it fail? Because the Heroes believed Russell was with them over Sandra's saying he wasn't. Russell sold them on a lie with his superior social game over Sandra's trying to tell them the truth! Her social game was less effective than Russell's!

Yeah, I'll admit Russell's social game wasn't the best that season, but at least it was better than Sandra's.

I'm of the opinion that Parvati should have won. I think she did all of this stuff better than either of them.
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« Reply #85 on: March 30, 2014, 01:39:03 pm »
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I would have voted for Parvati as well, but it was definitely a mistake to keep Sandra over say Danielle to the finals. The heroes hated Russell so much they were going to vote the person who was the furthest from him, so Parvati really needed to have someone who was perceived equally close to Russell sitting next to her to get a fair consideration from most of the jury.
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« Reply #86 on: March 30, 2014, 04:13:28 pm »
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Oh man, I love Russell and Danielle, I can't believe either of them did that thing that they did.
It will make it really tough on thier future
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« Reply #87 on: April 02, 2014, 02:49:44 pm »
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Mafia will likely keep me up until the episode would air, but I just realized there is no way to watch it for me in real time. So, unless someone wants to delay watching for 1 hour, I won't be able to attend any viewing parties. :/
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Watching it live this week...very interesting so far!
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EVERYONE WATCH RIGHT NOW I'M DYING
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« Reply #90 on: April 03, 2014, 12:41:05 am »
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EVERYONE WATCH RIGHT NOW I'M DYING

I just saw it. Oh my God. Sweet Jesus, what an episode.
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« Reply #91 on: April 03, 2014, 12:42:33 am »
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HOW STUPID IS CASS???

Edit: Or does someone want to defend that move? Does anyone see that working out in any way, shape, or form?
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HOW STUPID IS CASS???

Edit: Or does someone want to defend that move? Does anyone see that working out in any way, shape, or form?


I don't want to put Spoiler tags so SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT!!!!!!!














Cass is completely stupid. She had a sure lock on the Final 3. Now she has nothing. She decided she didn't like Sarah. For that reason neither Cass, nor Sarah, nor anyone else in the 6 can win this game.

Not that Sarah didn't have it coming. She played that role the completely worst way possible. Also, she was completely wrong! The two people she swore did not have idols both had idols!

I give Tasha a little credit for trying to smooth things over. What the hell was Spencer doing? Still don't like him. He's petulant. He did not lock this down the way a Rob or a Kim Spradlin would have.

I give Tony a little credit for at least realizing he was wrong about Sarah. His idol play was a nice try, and I think he was correct to give it to LJ. LJ got too misty-eyed, though. He had to know the best move was to give it Jefra. Or, he should have known. I think he just felt guilty. Which makes him a good person, but it was not his most brilliant moment.

MVP goes to... Trish, of all people. She bided her time, she said precisely the right thing, and it worked. (Tony's idol probably helped sway Cass, too).
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« Reply #93 on: April 03, 2014, 01:18:10 am »
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I agree about everything except Spencer. I don't think he played optimally here but I also didn't think he was awful or anything...not everybody is or has to be Boston Rob. Plus, the players here are not as mindless as those Rob was working with. I like him, actually a lot more than I thought I would.

But I agree with everything else! Cass was crazy - I expected soooo much more from her. Sarah too, really, but all Cass had to do was let Sarah be queen for the day. Court the person in the middle, it's just for one vote! Take it out on her later by making her the bottom of the alliance or something. The others realized that keeping Sarah happy was important, no matter how irrational she was being...you can sort out any problems later.

However, while Sarah was right that she was in a position of power, she let it go to her head in a huge way. Just crazy. I've never seen anyone make so many enemies so fast outside of outright sabotage. She felt so entitled to having it exactly her way, and her way was idiotic!

I was actually pretty amazed that Cass was able to turn the balance of power around like that, even though doing so was absolutely a terrible terrible move for her. I just cannot believe that she would think that would work for her. Not only will she be the bottom of a 6-person "alliance," she has a snowball's chance in hell of ever getting her former tribe to work with her again, and even if she does make it to the finals, she just pissed off a bunch of jury members. What was she thinking.

I did think having Jefra as a backup was a really smart move, I was pretty worried it was LJ. I disagree that LJ should have known to play the idol on Jefra, I didn't think it was very obvious. Although I think playing the idol on anyone was probably a mistake. You're immune, man, don't risk it.

Trish was definitely a case of right place right time (Cass was just so obviously mad at Sarah, although it was a big mistake to show that), but she did exactly what she needed to.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #94 on: April 03, 2014, 01:29:29 am »
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I think LJ should have known to play it on Jefra for the following reasons. Okay, the other tribe now knows Tony has an idol, and they are switching to "the other one." Whatever that means. But okay, voting for Tony would be pretty insane of them at this point, so who are they going to vote for? LJ seems logical. But okay, Tony PLAYED his idol on LJ, so LJ is safe. At this point, I think the most logical person for them to have targeted, from LJ's perspective, is LJ and he is safe. Honestly, he should probably just hold onto his idol, but he gets all gushy and goes Tony. But Tony was wearing an idol around his neck when the 6 were voting! There's no way they actually would have gone for Tony. Herego, Trish or Jefra, and Jefra seems like the bigger threat because of personality factors.

I really didn't like Spencer's comment to Cass afterward. How shortsighted! It's a 5-5 tie now. His best movie should be winning Cass back and pretending like nothing ever went a stray. That's the wrong way to start that. Also, did the brain three have zero communication? Tasha should have told Spencer that Cass was acting crazy, and Spencer should have handled it.

I mean, Cass is a fool. She actually made the same fool move that Cochran made his first time around. I remember when Coach swayed Cochran. It was a thing of beauty, definitely Coach's best performance in any of his three games. He struck the exact correct note: "Cochran, I know they want you to pretend to flip to our side. I think you should consider actually flipping. They are mean to you, they don't like you, and you are on the bottom with them. We respect you and are cool people." And it worked. You just have to say the right things. Trish, in a moment of near unparalleled brilliance, said the exact right thing at the exact right moment. So great. So, so great. I still think she has zero chance to win the game, though (Trish, I mean).

Also, Woo will win every challenge.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #95 on: April 03, 2014, 01:52:16 am »
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Woo! I hope he does win everything. I really like him!

Spencer was short-sighted with that comment. But really, would you have been able to hold back in that moment? I mean, sure some people have that kind of self-control, but I'm not sure you can really blame him. Will he regret it later? Probably.

I'm not sure what was up with the communication, but I'm guessing Cass kind of shut down. Or just played it off as if nothing was up with Trish. Maybe she really was considering all the way until tribal. I think it probably just didn't occur to Tasha or Spencer that she would actually consider turning on that alliance of 3. I was shocked, not that she would make a play against Sarah, but that she'd make a play against the other brains.

I'm still not sure Jefra was the obvious choice, but I really really do not think he should have played the idol. Any single choice was a big risk!

I couldn't believe this episode, it was really really nutso stuff, BUT I am actually really excited for where this will might the rest of the season. It's definitely gonna liven things up around camp, just as long as it doesn't become a simple matter of plucking off Brains&Beauty one by one.
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« Reply #96 on: April 03, 2014, 02:07:53 am »
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Yeah, it's the rare shocking betrayal that actually makes thing more, even rather than less. Fascinated to see what happens next.
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« Reply #97 on: April 03, 2014, 09:47:34 am »
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I was so glad that tribal worked oh the way it did, it proved that case and spencer are as stupid as the rest of the brains tribe. I don't see any appeal to spencer, not only is robz right that he has far to much angst, he has not made a single intelligent move. If you really look he has made alliances of convienience the entire game. First it was the brains men and he was luckily saved because j'tia was insane, then the brains women which he was lucky enough stayed together when the beauties broke up. He is once again on a losing alliance that he chose to be on because it was convenient.

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Re: Survivor
« Reply #98 on: April 04, 2014, 09:46:28 pm »
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If Kass was going to make a move like that, I don't understand why she didn't at least try to get some value out of it. She could have played it two ways.

1. She could have let her fellow brain people in on it so that the three of them could stay together. Did she really think Tasha was against her so much? Still having the two of them could have been very valuable, but she has really burned that bridge.

2. She could have at least told the people she was voting with that she was with them. They don't owe her anything now -- she made no attempt at a sub-alliance, or no attempt at all to at least say that she was in an alliance with them.

She doesn't have anybody now, I don't know what her plans were and I have to believe she didn't have anything in mind.

Also, Spencer <3 <3 <3 -- I love how he's starting to sand-bag in individual challenges at the merge. So strategic <3 So smart <3 So Spencer <3 <3 <3

I don't know why people on this season are so quick to admit that they're on the bottom when the slightest thing goes wrong. Maybe Jeff tries to pry it out of them all the time, but outwardly being upset that a vote didn't go your way and holding a grudge is probably the worst thing you can do when you're trying to find people to vote with you.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2014, 12:29:00 am »
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What do you mean spencer is sandbagging challenges, he lost the last challenge completely. Also I do NOT understand why people lke him, name the strategic move he has made which has put him in a good position so far please.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #100 on: April 05, 2014, 10:17:34 am »
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Spencer has performed very well in every challenge up until this point, where he's first out? I say he threw it. Let the other people emerge as physical threats.

And I think Spencer's strategic genius comes from all of the bad moves he hasn't made, rather than the good moves he has made. I mean, who really has made any good strategic moves this whole game? Spencer is just playing good Survivor and less bad things happen to you when you do that.

Don't count him out yet, I think he can still go far. Spencer <3 <3 <3

Oh yeah, and BTW, remember when I said Tony was playing a good game? Can I still get some credit for that prediction now that his team is on the top again?  :P
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #101 on: April 09, 2014, 08:02:21 pm »
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Here we go again!
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« Reply #102 on: April 10, 2014, 01:28:02 am »
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2014, 05:17:44 pm »
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Just watched the episode. Kass had a chance to make things better for herself and she chose to get 6th place. So disappointed in her.

But mostly this episode: Spencer <3 <3 <3 -- how could you not love him at this point!?
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« Reply #104 on: April 11, 2014, 05:27:30 pm »
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Ha, yeah right. I seriously doubt flipping would have helped her much.

Spencer, the guy who left his clue on his pants and then left his pants????? Okay.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2014, 05:28:03 pm »
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And he should have played his idol on Morgan.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2014, 05:30:38 pm »
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The new idol had better be able to shake things up real good, I'd hate to see this season turn into just picking off the minority players one by one. I like Spencer and Tash. :(
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2014, 05:31:51 pm »
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Flipping seemed like it was at least a chance of getting farther than 6th place. I really don't see what her plans are for getting farther. I mean maybe she's tried to make sub-alliances but we haven't heard about it so I don't see it working out for her.

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How was he supposed to know who to play his idol on? I would have done the exact same thing. <3 Spencer  ;D
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« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2014, 05:33:20 pm »
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Because it was obviously Morgan.

I'm rooting for Tony or LJ to win. I'm liking Trish and Woo more and more. On the other side I like Tasha the best.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2014, 05:34:25 pm »
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Because it was obviously Morgan.

To you it was obvious. How could he have known when he was out there?

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« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2014, 05:34:52 pm »
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I don't think staying with the tony crew is bad for cass. They aren't so tight that she is definitely out at six. She could be a swing player in an eventual LJ v tony feud.
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« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2014, 05:36:42 pm »
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Yeah, Spencer's poor idol hiding was very unlike him, I thought. The "test of will" - challenges have always been my favorites, I was really glad to see Spencer come through in that. Based on pre-game - interviews, I didn't think I'd like him, but I really do! I also liked Cochran, though.

The poker player (who was super disappointing!) who went out early has been posting a poker forum a little bit about his experience. Obviously he can't yet say much yet, because of spoilers, but I thought read on Kass's thought process mainly being "okay, what move here would yield me the most screen-time?" was quite fitting. She seems truly crazy, and somehow twistedly being proud of being chaotic
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« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2014, 05:37:39 pm »
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To be clear, I really think she screwed up her chances by flipping initially. It was a bad move. Having done that, though, flipping back seems like a dubious move right now.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2014, 05:39:38 pm »
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All right, so we disagree.

My prediction is that Kass will finish 6th place at best, unless she makes a move against her new "alliance"

...and though it's largely too late for that, I could see her telling them to split a vote to flush out Spencer's ( <3 ) idol and then flipping at that time, but that move doesn't really have a future either...

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« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2014, 05:54:30 pm »
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Kass has absolutely no win equity whatsoever, either way.
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« Reply #115 on: April 17, 2014, 12:18:32 am »
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Wow! Well, I have to think that Tony made the same bad move that Kass did two weeks ago. I mean, it's easier to defend Tony here than Kass in her previous situation, because LJ was certainly a big threat. But Spencer and Jeremiah (and Tash) are threats too. I think a blindside of LJ would have been quite smart next week or the week after. As it stand, Jeremiah and Tash and Spencer are all back in the game in a big way.

I kind of feel like Trish, of all people, is the smartest player here--something I did NOT think was the case a few weeks ago.

I liked LJ, but he could have seen this coming, and piled all 5 of his faction's votes on Jeremiah, or Tony himself.

Whoever I am, I would pretty much be planning to take Jefra and Kass to my final three.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #116 on: April 17, 2014, 12:40:57 am »
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I agree with you on all points. I liked LJ but I really like what this means for the rest of the game, things are staying interesting. The only thing I wished we could have had was a head-to-head between LJ and Tony. Tony has just played way too carelessly for things not to come back and bite him at some point, I think. I'll be really disappointed if he makes it to the end with nothing major to humble him...he's played well, but he's also gotten pretty lucky.

I have been more and more impressed by Trish as well but it is important to note that she wasn't able to sway Tony away from LJ. Should be an interesting dynamic between her and Tony after being excluded from plans, I'd love to see her become more of a strategic threat in her own right.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #117 on: April 17, 2014, 04:26:15 pm »
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I like Tony's move. Who's to say that him and Kass can't keep flipping back and forth and riding the middle all the way to the end? Everybody this season is so eager to declare to everyone that they're on the bottom. I hate it when people do that. The first step to being on the bottom is admitting you're on the bottom, and if you never do that, you end up on the bottom less often.

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« Reply #118 on: April 17, 2014, 04:28:05 pm »
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You only like it because it helps Spencer.
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« Reply #119 on: April 17, 2014, 04:28:57 pm »
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And Tony, but yeah, mostly Spencer <3 <3 <3
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« Reply #120 on: April 17, 2014, 04:40:59 pm »
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I like it because it shakes things up! I do like Spencer though, glad he'll be around longer. I was happy to see Tasha win immunity, too! She did it by making sentences out of the first letter of each color.
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« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2014, 04:45:51 pm »
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Here's something to chew on, tell me what you think.

I think this was especially bad for Kass. If she made it to the end her best story probably includes something like "I was a part of every big move that was made." She was out in the cold on this one -- I don't see how she can win at this point (that doesn't mean she can't, I just don't see it)

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« Reply #122 on: April 19, 2014, 08:37:50 pm »
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New to this thread, but survivor fan (Russel was the best  ;D)

Personally, I think that Tony is going to be gone before the final four, because people are onto his manipulating the others, and nobody likes to be a pawn to a king. Not sure who's going to get voted off next. Something tells me Tony, Spencer, and Jeremiah (it's Jeremiah, right?) are going to form a tight-knit group at the end (if Tony makes it).
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« Reply #123 on: April 19, 2014, 09:47:13 pm »
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I'm rooting for Spencer, but Tony is like best TV ever and I hope he goes deep. At the very least he has made the game super entertaining for all of us, so yay Tony.
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« Reply #124 on: April 19, 2014, 10:16:36 pm »
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I'm rooting for Spencer, but Tony is like best TV ever and I hope he goes deep. At the very least he has made the game super entertaining for all of us, so yay Tony.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2014, 02:12:30 am »
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SPOILERS................................................









Spencer blows it again! He HAD to play the idol on his buddy, there.

Tony finding the magic idol really makes things great for him. I assume it can't be played at F4, like the other idols. In which case, that's the only chance to vote him out, and if they don't, he wins. So he's either going to get fourth, or win. The guy's not like a proven challenge winner, though, so I don't think the outcome is guaranteed.

I am expecting either a Tony win, or a Trish win if Tony is voted out at four. In fact, I would say the odds of one of these two people winning is at least 80%. The only way for that not to happen is basically Spencer (or Tasha) to win immunity from here to the finals. Not impossible, but unlikely.

Woo, Kass, and Jefra are goats who will lose to whoever the other person is, unless they somehow are all three of the final three (very unlikely).
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« Reply #126 on: April 24, 2014, 06:56:06 am »
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SPOILERS................................................
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« Reply #127 on: April 24, 2014, 12:36:59 pm »
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« Reply #128 on: April 24, 2014, 12:49:21 pm »
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You need more space there, since it's the first post on the page you still see the actual text as soon as you open the page.

I mean, people should know not to look in this thread until they have seen the episode.
I agree.


Trish is playing a surprisingly good game, she is very good socially. Tash is also very solid, this has been a good season as far as the level of play goes. Woo seems very non-strategic and Jefra is of course only there because she is pretty and reliable.

I agree it's looking great for Tony, we'll get to see more of him. His spyshack had me rolling on the floor, dude is so awesome! I hate that they brought back the super-idol though, it just seems so overpowered.

It's interesting what Spencer should have done there. I think playing the idol on yourself is probably the worst move? The problem is, even if he succeeds and they get Woo, they are still down in numbers and now Spencer has no idol. It might be that the best move would have been to keep the idol a secret, hope they  vote out Jeremiah and try to do some damage with Tash in the next tribal (they've both been immunity beasts, either of them pulling that off would have forced the six to turn on each other). I think Spencer let the fact that he'd regret going home with an idol get the best of him.

Robz, if he uses it on Jeremiah this tribal and is right, how much is his position really improved? They are still down in numbers, no with no idol.

Seems like they could have leveraged the Jefra situation better. I mean, at least get her to tell you who the other side is voting for? I understand her wanting to stay with the six, but they could have promised her they never target her if she just tells them how the six is voting for, and people could have even orchestrated multiple people offering her secret F3 deals if need be. Just seems like they had her on the hook and just let her go without getting anything from her. She recognizes her position in the alliance, so she definitely had the motive to help them a bit, even if she wasn't comfortable voting with them yet. Trish calming her down was once again masterful to watch. She really is very aware socially.
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« Reply #129 on: April 24, 2014, 12:58:58 pm »
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Robz, if he uses it on Jeremiah this tribal and is right, how much is his position really improved? They are still down in numbers, no with no idol.

Well, then theoretically Spencer has to find the re-hidden idol next week, Tasha or Jeremiah have to win immunity, Spencer tells no one, the other alliance votes Spencer, Spencer plays his idol and they get out like Trish or Kass or something. I guess in practice this will never work, because they don't know they can't actually target Tony. Really, they are probably just screwed.
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« Reply #130 on: April 24, 2014, 01:07:24 pm »
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Robz, if he uses it on Jeremiah this tribal and is right, how much is his position really improved? They are still down in numbers, no with no idol.

Well, then theoretically Spencer has to find the re-hidden idol next week, Tasha or Jeremiah have to win immunity, Spencer tells no one, the other alliance votes Spencer, Spencer plays his idol and they get out like Trish or Kass or something. I guess in practice this will never work, because they don't know they can't actually target Tony. Really, they are probably just screwed.
That doesn't seem very good. I don't think he should have played the idol on Jeremiah, it just doesn't improve his win odds enough. I think he should have gambled and saved it, but if you're voted out, your win equity goes to zero and this way he ensured he is there for three more days to create some chaos (as he seems to be doing in the preview).
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« Reply #131 on: April 24, 2014, 01:08:31 pm »
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I think the odds of them voting out Tony are rising all the time? People do perceive him as a threat, the problem is that the remaining brain members are also threats - major threats. Plus they don't realize that he has an idol. Still, I'd love to see Tony targeted at least a little more.
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« Reply #132 on: April 24, 2014, 01:11:11 pm »
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I think the odds of them voting out Tony are rising all the time? People do perceive him as a threat, the problem is that the remaining brain members are also threats - major threats. Plus they don't realize that he has an idol. Still, I'd love to see Tony targeted at least a little more.

The odds of them TRYING to vote him out might be rising, but these efforts will fail until F4 because of that idol. I would systematically eliminate Jeremiah, Spencer and Tasha at this point and then turn on Tony at F4, if I was someone in his alliance.
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« Reply #133 on: April 24, 2014, 01:12:11 pm »
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I think the odds of them voting out Tony are rising all the time? People do perceive him as a threat, the problem is that the remaining brain members are also threats - major threats. Plus they don't realize that he has an idol. Still, I'd love to see Tony targeted at least a little more.
Yeah, the problem for Jefra/Woo/Kass is that they aren't any better of with Tash and Spencer because they are equally hopeless against them in  F3 situation. It would be fun to see Tony lose the control for little bit, yes. The super idol makes that all but impossible, though. :/
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« Reply #134 on: April 24, 2014, 01:14:03 pm »
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I think Woo could win if the final ended up being Kass/Jefra/Woo. I don't think he is smart enough to realize that he needs to work toward that endgame, though.
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« Reply #135 on: April 24, 2014, 01:18:27 pm »
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I think Woo could win if the final ended up being Kass/Jefra/Woo. I don't think he is smart enough to realize that he needs to work toward that endgame, though.
Agreed. That's the only F3 any of them has any equity in. Somehow I don't see them suddenly starting to work towards that, though.
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« Reply #136 on: April 24, 2014, 01:22:33 pm »
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I think Woo could win if the final ended up being Kass/Jefra/Woo. I don't think he is smart enough to realize that he needs to work toward that endgame, though.
Agreed. That's the only F3 any of them has any equity in. Somehow I don't see them suddenly starting to work towards that, though.

I actually think Kass, ideally, SHOULD know that that's what she has to do to have any chance of winning. But she's such an arrogant fool, she actually thinks she is this suave mastermind who is going to get lots of appreciative votes. She totally thinks she could go toe to toe with anyone. So she won't bother engineering the F3 she needs. Fool.
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« Reply #137 on: April 30, 2014, 09:22:36 pm »
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SPENCER!SPENCER!SPENCER!

Spencer just trampled Tony with the "girl-alliance"! Although, I shudder at the thought, I think spencer is a goner. I'm looking forward to next week's episode. I'd like to correct a previous statement: Tony is sealed in the final three.
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« Reply #138 on: May 01, 2014, 01:11:52 am »
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That was such a stupid, foolish move for Tony. What does he have to fear from an all-girl alliance against him, even if it were true? He has two idols! He can't be voted out! He's not in danger until F4, at which point it doesn't matter who is left, they will all be voting for him if they can. He needs to win that immunity. He needs to weed out the players likely to beat him there, and the players likely to beat him in the end. These are the same goals: Tasha and Spencer. Saving Spencer here was absolutely ludicrous.
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« Reply #139 on: May 05, 2014, 11:50:12 pm »
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Just watched last week's episode.

Spencer <3 (just one heart. I'm trying to tone it down for this post)

I'll just say a couple of things. I feel like this cycle (S27 and this one) was where they revisited terrible ideas that everybody already decided were really bad for really good reasons. Redemption Island was universally hated and was a terrible thing for so many valid reasons, and any good parts to it were just invisible to everyone except for Jeff Probst because the bad parts just completely ruined the game for me/everyone who watches Survivor ever (this is an exaggeration, but I've never heard from anyone who said they didn't hate RI with a fiery passion). They brought it back and it continued to suck.

Then, Tony's OP idol? Why did they think that was a good idea to bring back?! Come on, it just takes so much out of the game. It guarantees that a certain person makes F4. Why do we want that? It's a much more exciting and difficult game if everybody is vulnerable at every vote but there's always a way (immunity) to save yourself. An OP idol like that requires no skills to actually use, I can't appreciate it like I do normal idols because those are hard to use correctly. This idol is just so OP that it ruins all of that for me and I've never heard anyone say they liked that version of the idol more than what they have now.

Robz, I think your wording is so strong it comes across as closed-minded. I get that you don't like Spencer, and he doesn't do everything perfectly, but that doesn't mean that everything he does is totally wrong. He made F6 and he's still there. Usually I react to that by just posting more hearts, but I'll just say that I think there's much more to the game than it appears you're seeing.

Even with Kass, I agree she said some things this episode that made me want to see her lose, but I think that's the edit talking. Just because we aren't hearing the intelligent confessionals we used to from back before the merge doesn't mean she turned into an idiot out there. It means that her move probably didn't work out for her and we're supposed to understand/feel better about why it happened.

Tony is flexing his Survivor-muscles. People say they don't trust him, but he's the one controlling every vote and he holds all of the power in the game. Granted, he's really lucky in a lot of cases, but you make your own shuffle luck. The only two reasons I wouldn't root for him are as follows:

1. He has an OP idol, so if he wins it will be cheapened by that. I'd be OK if he never told anyone and didn't have to use it, so KEEP HOPE ALIVE.

2. I have a giant man-crush on Spencer and I'd spend weeks doing nothing but crying into my pillow if he doesn't win the game.

Neither of these are good reasons, really. Tony is playing hard and I'd love to see someone playing that hard win the game. Tony listened to Spencer because Spencer had some good reasons and it could very well be that his move was in his best interests. We'll have to see if it works out for him.

Finally, I'd just like to announce that I'm thrilled that the last remaining model/actor  recruit   boobs/southern accent   "beauty" tribe member is gone. I didn't think any of them were all that attractive anyways (except for maybe Brice  :'( ). I'd actually be OK with any of the remaining people winning at this point except for maybe Woo because he hasn't really done anything.

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« Reply #140 on: May 13, 2014, 05:49:47 pm »
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I'm rewatching heroes vs villains, just starting the final episode. Despite having a great season, I just cannot stand Russell. He makes all my spider senses tingle and he just has so many moments where he's a huge bully; it's more than just the edit talking.

I am so so so excited for him to get humbled when Sandra wins.

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Also, my roommate and I decided to try to watch every season this summer! :D

Bold move my friend, I would love to but the filming of the old shows is so low quality it's hard for me to deal with.
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« Reply #142 on: May 13, 2014, 05:58:47 pm »
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Also, my roommate and I decided to try to watch every season this summer! :D

Bold move my friend, I would love to but the filming of the old shows is so low quality it's hard for me to deal with.

It is! :'( It's still survivor, but the switch to HD was a very, very good thing.
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« Reply #143 on: May 13, 2014, 06:48:47 pm »
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I'm rewatching heroes vs villains, just starting the final episode. Despite having a great season, I just cannot stand Russell. He makes all my spider senses tingle and he just has so many moments where he's a huge bully; it's more than just the edit talking.

I am so so so excited for him to get humbled when Sandra wins.

Also, my roommate and I decided to try to watch every season this summer! :D
Does he ever humble at all? As a recent rewatcher it seems to me his takeaway was more of the "this game is flawed"-persuasion.
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« Reply #144 on: May 13, 2014, 11:22:29 pm »
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I'm rewatching heroes vs villains, just starting the final episode. Despite having a great season, I just cannot stand Russell. He makes all my spider senses tingle and he just has so many moments where he's a huge bully; it's more than just the edit talking.

I am so so so excited for him to get humbled when Sandra wins.

Also, my roommate and I decided to try to watch every season this summer! :D
Does he ever humble at all? As a recent rewatcher it seems to me his takeaway was more of the "this game is flawed"-persuasion.

I had to leave midway through the episode. ::) But I thought I remembered him being really crushed...maybe humbled isn't the correct word, but I haven't watched since it originally aired. I guess at this point I'm in it for the schadenfreude one way or another.
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« Reply #145 on: May 15, 2014, 09:40:04 am »
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What a great episode! This season is so good, loving every minute of it.

The themes for 29 and 30 got spoilered I think. 29 will be blood versus water with all new players, and 30 will be an all legends season.

I will cry if Woo wins (and Kass obviously cannot win), but either of Tony or Spencer winning would be a  very satisfying ending to one of the best seasons ever. I think Spencer would be almost guaranteed to win a head to head match-up, but I also think Spencer needs one more immunity to make it to the end. Dream scenario is Spencer wins immunity, they buy Tony's lie about his idol being good until the end, and vote out Kass or Woo (=Woo) and we get to see Tony vs Spencer in the finals.
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« Reply #146 on: May 15, 2014, 09:56:33 am »
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I actually watched this episode live For The First Thyme In Forever™

Spencer clearly deserves more man-crush gushing, so <3 <3 <3 Spencer <3 <3 <3

Also, I really like the way Tony is playing. Yeah it seems reckless but he always ends up making very smart decisions, and you can afford to play much more aggressively when you have an idol, and even WAY more aggressively when you have two of them and one of them is totally broken. I just wish we could have heard why he decided to vote for Trish, but it would have killed the suspense for this vote. Hopefully we'll get to hear his thoughts about it in a week.

I think his bluff about the special idol's powers is brilliant, mostly because his idea for what that idol does is much, much better for the game than what it actually does. That idol would actually be interesting!

And Kass. You were doing so well until the last 10 seconds of the episode when you showed everyone your favorite finger. Trish was going to the jury and she was going to show them her true colors (did you SEE her face as she was casting her vote? Scary.) and you were going to come out fully on top of that exchange, but then you did that and now it all went to crap. I had so much respect for you until that gesture and now I don't. That's too bad.

Anyways, I'll be disappointed if Spencer (<3 <3 <3) doesn't win, but I'm quite OK with a Tony win at this point.
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« Reply #147 on: May 15, 2014, 12:18:37 pm »
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I just wish we could have heard why he decided to vote for Trish, but it would have killed the suspense for this vote. Hopefully we'll get to hear his thoughts about it in a week.
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« Reply #148 on: May 15, 2014, 12:27:46 pm »
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This makes sense. I was thinking it could have been possible that the other three people said they were definitely voting for Trish and he didn't want to give up on his special idol bluff to save her. I'm curious to know how much he's putting into that, particularly since we only got to see him tell Trish about it and she's gone now. I wonder if he's given that bluff to anyone else past implying things at Tribal Council.
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« Reply #149 on: May 15, 2014, 07:56:15 pm »
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I'm rewatching heroes vs villains, just starting the final episode. Despite having a great season, I just cannot stand Russell. He makes all my spider senses tingle and he just has so many moments where he's a huge bully; it's more than just the edit talking.

I am so so so excited for him to get humbled when Sandra wins.

Also, my roommate and I decided to try to watch every season this summer! :D
Does he ever humble at all? As a recent rewatcher it seems to me his takeaway was more of the "this game is flawed"-persuasion.

Reporting back on this - you were exactly right. I must be remembering his reaction to a different season because I def remember him on the verge of tears on some reunion. His actual reaction here didn't make me like him any better though...
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« Reply #150 on: May 16, 2014, 12:08:19 am »
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Watching season one and JEFF ISN'T NARRATING THE CHALLENGES. I've taken to calling the challenges Jeff style in my living room.
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« Reply #151 on: May 16, 2014, 03:13:09 am »
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I'm rewatching heroes vs villains, just starting the final episode. Despite having a great season, I just cannot stand Russell. He makes all my spider senses tingle and he just has so many moments where he's a huge bully; it's more than just the edit talking.

I am so so so excited for him to get humbled when Sandra wins.

Also, my roommate and I decided to try to watch every season this summer! :D
Does he ever humble at all? As a recent rewatcher it seems to me his takeaway was more of the "this game is flawed"-persuasion.

Reporting back on this - you were exactly right. I must be remembering his reaction to a different season because I def remember him on the verge of tears on some reunion. His actual reaction here didn't make me like him any better though...
edit: spoilers for survivor: redemption island!

His third appearance, the season Boston Rob won, Russell's tribe threw a challenge to get rid of him and when Russell lost the duel and was eliminated, he cried at the arena. Maybe that's what you are remembering?
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« Reply #152 on: May 20, 2014, 12:48:23 pm »
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So, who are people rooting for tomorrow?

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« Reply #153 on: May 21, 2014, 08:30:07 pm »
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Looks like good immunity challenge. Can't wait for what happens. More bulletins as events warrant.
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« Reply #154 on: May 21, 2014, 08:36:47 pm »
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Kass has immunity after huge comeback. I think Woo or Spencer is going home.
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« Reply #155 on: May 21, 2014, 08:53:52 pm »
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NOOOOOOOOO! :'( :'( :'( :'( Why him? :'( :'(so long, spencer bad move Tony! Very bad move.
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« Reply #156 on: May 21, 2014, 09:04:36 pm »
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HUMONGO maze for final immunity with some wonky turnstiles and weird idols.
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« Reply #157 on: May 21, 2014, 09:11:20 pm »
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Woo has immunity. Bye Tony. It's not been nice knowing you. I'm positive Kass will win.
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« Reply #158 on: May 21, 2014, 09:28:23 pm »
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Kass voted out. ???
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« Reply #159 on: May 22, 2014, 04:19:04 am »
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Wow. Unbelievable that Woo took Tony, after all that. A throw-away-the-million-dollars move if ever there was one. In fact, probably the clearest case of someone making an obvious and totally losing finals move since Colby took Tina all the way back in season 2.

I'm glad he made that mistake, because Tony winning was manifestly the best outcome, but it was surprising nonetheless.

Great season, with great players. I would be pleased to see lots of them back.
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« Reply #160 on: May 22, 2014, 07:56:42 am »
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I keep reading that people think in the final voting, people should vote for who they think "played best" and "deserves to win". But doesn't it make much more sense to vote for the person that screwed you over the least, in order to disincentivize people from working against you?
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« Reply #161 on: May 22, 2014, 12:38:46 pm »
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Now that the forum game is over, I can post this.
I keep reading that people think in the final voting, people should vote for who they think "played best" and "deserves to win". But doesn't it make much more sense to vote for the person that screwed you over the least, in order to disincentivize people from working against you?

That would be ingame vs out game stances. In game you say you won't vote to give someone the money if they vote you out. Out game you no longer have investment and should vote for the more deserving player(which could be the one who didn't screw you over)
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« Reply #162 on: May 22, 2014, 12:49:55 pm »
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Now that the forum game is over, I can post this.
I keep reading that people think in the final voting, people should vote for who they think "played best" and "deserves to win". But doesn't it make much more sense to vote for the person that screwed you over the least, in order to disincentivize people from working against you?

This does, on occasion, happen. Vytas, one of my favorite players, explicitly guaranteed Tyson he would not vote for him if Tyson voted him out. Even though he firmly and obviously believed Tyson played the better game, Vytas did not vote for him in the end.
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« Reply #163 on: May 22, 2014, 01:34:56 pm »
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But lots of people participate multiple times, so if they dont vote for people who screwed them over, that increases their chances in the next game.
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« Reply #164 on: May 23, 2014, 07:40:14 am »
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What a finale!

It's awesome Woo cost himself the win by winning the last immunity challenge.

Tony winning is such a satisfaction. The editors did a great job keeping things exciting this season. It's pretty amazing survivor is going stronger than ever after 28 seasons!
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« Reply #165 on: May 23, 2014, 07:25:17 pm »
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I've only seen who wins the show, I haven't watched the reunion yet.

If Spencer couldn't have won (<3 <3 <3) then I'm glad Tony did; I actually would have rather seen Kass win than Woo, it makes me so mad when people get to the end because someone dragged them there and they didn't do anything, and seeing them win leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I was so proud of Spencer's (<3) jury speech. It all seemed so familiar  :P

As far as jury strategies, there's no real incentive to follow through on your threats once you're voted out. Off the top of my head I remember Parvati and Candice telling Yul they would vote for him if he got rid of Penner before them. He did, and I know Parvati ended up voting for Ozzy in the end anyway (she wrote "Oscar" on his vote, that's why I remember). The way I saw it (at least in the forum game) was that I just wasn't going to tell people how I'd vote, because that gives them incentive to vote me off. Well, I only told the people I wouldn't be voting for how I'd be voting  :P

I think jury decisions are so personal and so unique to each game and the relationships you form in those games that coming up with a "jury reputation" couldn't have any measurable effect on one person's success. Maybe in shorter games that you play a lot more times it can work but I think Survivor is too big. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #166 on: May 23, 2014, 07:42:52 pm »
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I agree. In general, people will vote for whoever they respect and like. You won't gain either by making threats.
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« Reply #167 on: June 01, 2014, 03:32:28 pm »
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« Reply #168 on: June 01, 2014, 04:56:21 pm »
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What is this forum game that watno mentioned?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=8886.0

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« Reply #169 on: June 01, 2014, 07:18:14 pm »
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« Reply #170 on: June 01, 2014, 08:27:25 pm »
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What is this forum game that watno mentioned?

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=8886.0

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« Reply #171 on: June 02, 2014, 05:38:47 pm »
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« Reply #172 on: June 11, 2014, 02:58:05 am »
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FINALLY finishing season 1.

I can't help but draw comparisons between Kelly's situation at the end and Woo's. Just ridiculous terrible choices to bring Rich/Tony to the end. And I liked Kelly/Woo sooooo much better than the eventual winners too! :'(
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« Reply #173 on: June 11, 2014, 05:18:21 am »
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FINALLY finishing season 1.

I can't help but draw comparisons between Kelly's situation at the end and Woo's. Just ridiculous terrible choices to bring Rich/Tony to the end. And I liked Kelly/Woo sooooo much better than the eventual winners too! :'(
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« Reply #174 on: August 31, 2014, 06:07:58 am »
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Next season's cast has been revealed. It seems isn't possible to put pictures inside spoiler tags here, hopefully no one minds seeing this:


The guy in on the left in the back row is John Rocker, a guy who used to play in MLB and is apparently a ridiculous racist. I think he has a decent chance at being this years Phillip/Kass, a goat carried far because there is just zero chance he gets any jury votes at the end. It's of course also possible he is so insufferable he goes out early, but being physically strong should give him some buffer pre-merge. The two black women in the front were in amazing race, and multiple people have said they were just about the most annoying duo to ever appear on their TV. I watched one interview, and can totally see what people were talking about. I don't know anything about the rest of the cast.
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« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2014, 08:46:38 pm »
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Finally got a chance to take a look at some preview videos. There's nobody that jumps out to me as someone I like immediately, which is a little bit disturbing, but there's still more time for that.

John Rocker? Are you serious? It's unbelievable that they cast him on the show when they could have cast me. I am directly personally offended by that.

I'm looking forward to many of these people getting voted off  ;D
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« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2014, 09:09:56 pm »
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's still more time for that.

John Rocker? Are you serious? It's unbelievable that they cast him on the show when they could have cast me. I am directly personally offended by that.

To me Rocker seems like the nut casting. Same as Colton, people are surely going to tune in just to hate him. Whatever makes them the water cooler conversation topic, man. Rocker is famous, that's interesting to people. I don't see why you'd be offended, they are just running their business well.


I'm somewhat worried that this is going to be a terrible season. Based on their bios, this cast seems exceptionally weak. Hardly anyone seems to have watched the show at all, which is evident by most people naming someone from the past few seasons as former contestant most like them.

Drew's answer to that question got a chuckle out of me: "Fabio or Malcolm because they are athletic, smart bros that know how to manipulate people and situations to advance themselves." Hmmmmm.
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« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2014, 09:32:38 pm »
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Rocker is definitely the nut of the season. Apparently he had some controversy a while back about homophobic statements or some such, so he's definitely primed to create some drama. His girlfriend seems up to the task as well...

I really liked the woman who was a marketer from Seattle (playing with her dad, the farmer). She struck me as excellent at conversation from the promo, so she may be a big player socially.

I like the firefighter/police officer husband and wife, they seem competent and likeable enough. Impossible to say whether they'll be strategic at all.

The footballer/pageant queen boyfriend/girlfriend duo seemed alright, kinda vanilla but maybe there'll be something there.

The cheer mom and daughter and the boyfriends seem alright, although the mom/daughter duo come on really strong when they're together...

The twins, the florida bros, and the Louisiana, uh...people...all seem preeeeetty annoying. Outside chance that little bro and Louisiana dad will be alright.
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« Reply #178 on: September 03, 2014, 10:48:51 pm »
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http://www.reddit.com/r/mlb/comments/1jtko4/i_am_john_rocker_former_mlb_pitcher_here_to_take/
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #179 on: September 23, 2014, 03:12:00 pm »
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Hello Survivor fans...

As many of you are already aware, I'm modding a forum game: Forum Survivor season 2. Most people who post here are already signed up, but we're looking for at least one more person to join us. The game will hopefully start tomorrow (Wednesday) to kick off at the same time as this season of the show.

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But more importantly, many of those who played in season 1 will tell you they had a blast, and I've got a lot of great ideas for this season that should be amazing. I highly encourage you to give it a shot or at least read more about it if you're on the fence.

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« Reply #180 on: September 24, 2014, 08:08:54 pm »
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« Reply #181 on: September 24, 2014, 08:27:23 pm »
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I'll have to wait for it to come up on the cbs website. If it's anything like big brother it should be up at 11 forum time? Too long!
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« Reply #182 on: September 25, 2014, 12:31:48 am »
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After watching one episode, I think I really like Baylor. Her game is a little bit passive but it's way better than anyone else on her tribe. Mostly she just seems like a real person and so few of the cast members this season do.
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« Reply #183 on: September 25, 2014, 12:52:56 am »
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Not an outstanding premiere, and the cast doesn't seem outstanding yet, but it was fine. They actually all seem kinda too nice and non-controversial. There was no fighting or drama!

I am rooting for Miss Michigan and Michigan State dude, obviously, and they seem decent. The gay guys are cool. Nobody else stood out to me yet.

I was impressed with the mustachioed firefighter guy for being socially aware and making the best of non-decent situations. That's a very underrated skill.
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« Reply #184 on: September 25, 2014, 08:37:30 am »
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Watching the episode now.

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« Reply #185 on: September 25, 2014, 08:45:26 am »
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Okay, I hate this exile-twist. Very unfair, as if you want to incentivize not stepping up even more.

I'm really liking Jeremy, who was my pre-game favorite as well. His wife is cool too, I hope they'll do well.
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« Reply #186 on: September 25, 2014, 08:52:31 am »
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Haha oh Missy. "Being married and divorced as many times as I have, I've learned that you have to listen to your gut".

No, ma'am, listening to your gut got you divorced three times.
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« Reply #187 on: September 25, 2014, 09:25:35 am »
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John was straight up beasting the physical aspect of the immunity challenge, too bad his team dropped the ball on the puzzle. I must say I think the challenges are too puzzle-centric these days. It's like the first three parts of it didn't matter at all, which is just stupid.

Baylor is my favorite of the females. The cast doesn't seem too exciting, but it's not as bad as I feared. I'm glad I instantly found people to root for. Dale is also cool. It seems like one of the twinnies will be the first to go, which would be great.
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« Reply #188 on: September 25, 2014, 09:40:41 am »
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What's up with the girls being super weird about Josh being gay? Like seriously, calling him a girlfriend, that's extremely offensive, isn't it?

Drew won't get far. Gave the classic "I'm a pretty successful model" speech while looking like a total buffoon. Alec could have a shot though. The quarterback will probably go deep after they showed the his speech about his dad's illness.

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« Reply #189 on: September 25, 2014, 09:43:57 am »
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Ohhh super exciting preview for next episode!  ;D Rocker with the classic "If you were a man, I'd knock your teeth out." I think quitter will be the other twinnie. Apparently they pretty much quit amazing race once the going got tough for them.
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« Reply #190 on: September 25, 2014, 09:45:45 am »
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Why did Josh vote for Baylor? I don't get it.
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« Reply #191 on: September 25, 2014, 09:56:01 am »
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Like seriously, calling him a girlfriend, that's extremely offensive, isn't it?

It depends on the type of person, some people are flattered by it and others are annoyed. On the other hand, she just said that to him without getting to know him, and he wasn't amused by it. So yeah it was offensive.

Why did Josh vote for Baylor? I don't get it.

It's weird, on the CBS videos, usually they play the audio when people are talking to the camera, but they dubbed Nadiya's exit speech over the votes this time. Clearly they want us to think that Josh and Baylor are aligned because they were seen making the decision on who would go home together, but it's very strange that he would write her name down given that. The editors don't want us to think about it, so maybe it doesn't end up being important in the long run?

My guess: he's trying to mind-game her. Give her a scare at tribal council and reinforce the idea that he's the one that got her out of trouble so she'll be more inclined to stick with him. It's a little wacky but I can't think of much that makes sense.
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« Reply #192 on: September 25, 2014, 09:59:31 am »
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I was thinking maybe he wanted to avoid being perceived as the swing vote (which he was).

I don't know, seems FPS'y (fancy play syndrome).
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« Reply #193 on: September 25, 2014, 10:46:53 am »
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I think it was just Josh's way of making sure the guys won, without directly betraying Nadiya.
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« Reply #194 on: September 25, 2014, 12:27:35 pm »
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I loved the episode and totally agree with the sentiments so far. I agree that the challenges are getting to puzzle centric, as an overall game theme I don't mind it but I think immunity challenges need to be more physical during tribal phase. It was pretty cool to see a true athlete competing, I mean we have seen some physical players in the past but wow he's huge. I think he has zero chance due to his social game however I can't see him getting jury votes and I almost don't see a reason to vote him off ever.
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« Reply #195 on: September 25, 2014, 12:33:48 pm »
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Hold on now, those puzzle pieces were really heavy and moving them around a lot probably gets tiring after a while. The actual puzzle component seemed to be guess-and-check (at least that's what those tribes were doing -- I would have asked for someone to hold me on their shoulders so I could try and reason a couple of things but that's just me) so you could argue that the "puzzle portion" of the challenge was almost all physical stuff anyways. That plus there were what, 5 other phases of the challenge that happened before you even got there, almost all of which were physical (I'm not counting knot-untying as physical).

I mean, I felt like that challenge was almost all physical with one small puzzle component thrown in there because it added variety to the challenge -- something appropriate for an early tribal-phase challenge for sure.

And let's be clear about John Rocker. If he doesn't get voted out this season -- if I don't get the satisfaction of seeing his dumb stupid face watching Jeff snuff his torch -- I'm going to be sorely disappointed. No-jury-vote humiliation is not enough for me.
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« Reply #196 on: September 25, 2014, 12:58:30 pm »
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But do you agree it's ridiculous to vote him off for any reason other than peace of mind?

Also I get what your saying, potentially the puzzle solvers tried to over complicate the puzzle however it's strange that the team that dominated the first components of the game lost in the end. Actually I think it correctly made the challenge a team challenge unable to be carried by one player so comment rescinded.
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« Reply #197 on: September 25, 2014, 01:01:18 pm »
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But do you agree it's ridiculous to vote him off for any reason other than peace of mind?

If I was out there and my conversations with him didn't make me think I was completely wrong about my opinion of him, there's no way I could trust him. Couple that with the fact that he's enormous and probably very physical and I'm voting him off the second I feel like I can get away with not having him around for physical strength.

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« Reply #198 on: September 25, 2014, 01:37:53 pm »
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It would be insane to even consider voting him out pre-merge, unless he behaves totally bonkers (rice dumping, or something). He's very challenge helpful and easy to beat in the end game.
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« Reply #199 on: September 25, 2014, 02:26:50 pm »
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I think it was just Josh's way of making sure the guys won, without directly betraying Nadiya.

This is what I thought. The blame for that vote may also get pinned elsewhere.
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« Reply #200 on: September 25, 2014, 04:17:44 pm »
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I think it was just Josh's way of making sure the guys won, without directly betraying Nadiya.

This is what I thought. The blame for that vote may also get pinned elsewhere.
Seems exceptionally low reward high risk. Nadiya won't even be in the jury.
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« Reply #201 on: September 25, 2014, 04:19:42 pm »
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I think it was just Josh's way of making sure the guys won, without directly betraying Nadiya.

This is what I thought. The blame for that vote may also get pinned elsewhere.
Seems exceptionally low reward high risk. Nadiya won't even be in the jury.

I assume he told the girl (Baylor?) about it first so it was fine. I think Nadiya probably knew it was going to be her going home, and they just didn't really show that.
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« Reply #202 on: September 25, 2014, 04:19:53 pm »
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Hold on now, those puzzle pieces were really heavy and moving them around a lot probably gets tiring after a while. The actual puzzle component seemed to be guess-and-check (at least that's what those tribes were doing -- I would have asked for someone to hold me on their shoulders so I could try and reason a couple of things but that's just me) so you could argue that the "puzzle portion" of the challenge was almost all physical stuff anyways. That plus there were what, 5 other phases of the challenge that happened before you even got there, almost all of which were physical (I'm not counting knot-untying as physical).

I mean, I felt like that challenge was almost all physical with one small puzzle component thrown in there because it added variety to the challenge -- something appropriate for an early tribal-phase challenge for sure.

My issue with the challenge was that the first five stages were completely irrelevant - the time you could make up in those was very insignificant compared to the time it took solving the puzzle. I feel that's quite common these days, and I find it very unfortunate.

Edit: Especially so, because the puzzle seemed to be on the "brute-force it" end of the spectrum.
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« Reply #203 on: September 25, 2014, 04:24:07 pm »
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Hold on now, those puzzle pieces were really heavy and moving them around a lot probably gets tiring after a while. The actual puzzle component seemed to be guess-and-check (at least that's what those tribes were doing -- I would have asked for someone to hold me on their shoulders so I could try and reason a couple of things but that's just me) so you could argue that the "puzzle portion" of the challenge was almost all physical stuff anyways. That plus there were what, 5 other phases of the challenge that happened before you even got there, almost all of which were physical (I'm not counting knot-untying as physical).

I mean, I felt like that challenge was almost all physical with one small puzzle component thrown in there because it added variety to the challenge -- something appropriate for an early tribal-phase challenge for sure.

My issue with the challenge was that the first five stages were completely irrelevant - the time you could make up in those was very insignificant compared to the time it took solving the puzzle. I feel that's quite common these days, and I find it very unfortunate.

Edit: Especially so, because the puzzle seemed to be on the "brute-force it" end of the spectrum.

Well I like that aspect of it, because there's always the potential for a comeback. If it wasn't like this, I'd be much more inclined to tune out after one tribe takes an early lead.

And the puzzle didn't have to be brute force -- both tribes did it that way but I think they could have done better had they just thought about it. Ability to think under pressure and fatigue is very well tested using this format and I like that. I also like puzzles.
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« Reply #204 on: September 25, 2014, 04:32:30 pm »
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Okay, interesting! I thought that challenges like that were the producers failing, but clearly there is a market for that. Huh.

I agree, your idea of John who was otherwise doing nothing lifting someone up to maybe see the bigger picture is a good one. It's good to remember that we are shown an edited version of the challenge. They very well could have spent like 20 minutes doing the puzzle, if not more.
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« Reply #205 on: September 25, 2014, 04:34:09 pm »
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Okay, interesting! I thought that challenges like that were the producers failing, but clearly there is a market for that. Huh.

I agree, your idea of John who was otherwise doing nothing lifting someone up to maybe see the bigger picture is a good one. It's good to remember that we are shown an edited version of the challenge. They very well could have spent like 20 minutes doing the puzzle, if not more.

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« Reply #206 on: September 25, 2014, 06:31:26 pm »
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I thought Dale was going to be a strong player after watching his pregame interview. I changed my mind once I realized he has absolutely no social skills and isolated himself from everyone else right off the back hahaha.

Nadiya seemed to be extremely offensive, not sad to see her go first. Also, I don't like how they take people who are already famous, so I typically root against them anyways.

I'll be rooting for my hometown area people (the fire fighter and cop from Boston whose names I forgot), Dale (I'll hold out hope still), and Baylor seemed cool as well.

Overall, not an amazing season premier, but it was the premier so that means Survivor is on! So I won't complain.
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« Reply #207 on: September 25, 2014, 06:34:42 pm »
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Regarding Josh's vote, he was obviously stressed as the position of the swing vote, so he probably wanted to not be the deciding factor, if possible. I think if Baylor votes with the girls, Josh ends up voting for Nadiya in the tie breaker voting round. the only thing I was confused about was why he voted for Baylor and not one of other girls? Maybe so no one would know who it was that didn't vote with them? Or maybe because he had trust with her and knew she might not get mad if he voted for her, whereas it didn't seem like he had a strong relationship with the other women yet.
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« Reply #208 on: September 25, 2014, 06:35:40 pm »
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I was pretty pleased with the first elimination. As far as I can tell, Natalie and Nadiya would have been essentially the same character.
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« Reply #209 on: September 25, 2014, 06:40:09 pm »
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I was pretty pleased with the first elimination. As far as I can tell, Natalie and Nadiya would have been essentially the same character.
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« Reply #210 on: September 25, 2014, 06:45:14 pm »
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I think it was just Josh's way of making sure the guys won, without directly betraying Nadiya.

This is what I thought. The blame for that vote may also get pinned elsewhere.
I'm listening to Nadiya's RHAP interview now. She is saying Josh and her were "like best buddies" on the island. A dynamic like that might explain why he didn't want to directly vote for her, even if he had to let her go.

This actually brings to question how much political capital Josh actually has on the tribe. Of course, all we hear is Nadya's side, and maybe Josh was only getting close to her for strategy, but if they actually were that close and Josh couldn't make the men choose another target, then that means Josh is not really in a position power at all.

Edit: Haha, Nadiya is sort of hilarious in this. Not very appropriate, but has some pretty funny oneliners. She could have had some fun confessionals.
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« Reply #211 on: October 07, 2014, 02:20:25 am »
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Does anyone watch the bonus clips? Dale is so cute!
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« Reply #212 on: October 09, 2014, 03:24:28 am »
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I haven't watched the bonus clips. I think they aren't available to Europeans, stupid CBS.

Comments on the episode as I watch it! Almost like live-tweeting, except it's not live and not on twitter.

First of all, what the heck was Josh doing last week, AGAIN?? Why has he lied about his vote to his alliance TWICE in a row now, if he still plans on kicking Baylor before any of the guys? He seems to be massively overplaying for no reason. I think a almost any alliance would see him as a really really sketchy character right now, but I guess it's working with this group since everyone still seems to trust and like him.

If Drew ends up being the one that quits, I'm going to be slightly pissed at the editors. They really are shoving their dislike of him down our throats. He literally hasn't come off well in any of his scenes.

Jeremy is getting a great edit. I didn't like him mouthing off to the other tribe when he saw that Val was gone, but other than that, he is getting a lot of positive screen time. I'm really enjoying his confessionals about Drew.

Rocker was obviously put to a very uncomfortable situation because of Val's idiocy, but telling Jeremy that he tried to lobby for her as hard as he could in front of his own tribe wasn't really the best or even a remotely good way to go about solving it. :D Not that I expected him to be the smartest of cookies.

This duel should be right up Reed's ally, although Josh could also be good at it so maybe it's not the greatest match-up. Some of these parent-kid pairs ought to be better, and now I'm positively surprised that Wes realized it and volunteered. He is actually playing a great under the radar game, he's in a majority alliance and seems to be well liked and hard working.

I like Keith too, seems like a good guy. What a sympathetic family! I'm actually warming up to this cast, even if the general gameplay hasn't really been all that impressive (read: it's been terrible) this far. At least I'm developing a root/don't root for relationship with these people. :) edit: Okay, I guess Keith isn't so super open minded about homosexuals after all, this confessional about sleeping on different sides of the fire with Josh is pretty questionable. :D

John quietly saying "I did everything I could brother, I swear to you" to Jeremy is much better, even if it doesn't seem to helping at all. If I was Jeremy, I'd believe him because he really is too dumb and proud to lie about something like that. I'm somewhat disappointed in Jeremy for not seeing that, or not even being open to hearing his side of the story. The anger seems to be clouding his judgement badly, which doesn't bode well for you in the game. I can't really bring myself to feel bad for Julie, even though I should. Like, yeah, it's unfair her position weakens because everyone hates John, but also, you are dating John Rocker, so.. what did you expect?

Some really good looking shooting strokes in the challenge, especially Rocker, John and Jeremy (I'm a basketball fan). Dale seems to be a great diplomat, first trying to calm John down after the challenge and then offering to go get water because he sat out the challenge.

I'll say this in Rocker's credit, he really doesn't seem to be a homophobic person, as far as I can tell he is perfectly comfortable working with Josh and being his friend. Of course he is very mean person and has a TERRIBLE temper, but I'd say he is more politically incorrect than actually discriminating towards minorities (of course, being politically incorrect is discriminating in itself, but.. he is a very dumb guy). Oh, now he is floating the idea of voting out Dale, which I think will backfire just because the edit has been showing Dale in a very positive light, and this episode has really been focusing on how many people dislike Rocker. Everything seems to be pointing towards him getting blindsided with an idol. I wonder why no one wants to align with Dale? He seems like a great guy. Yes, he is weak physically, but he also knows his limitations.

The four that plans on blindsiding Rocker really should have told Jacelyn to keep her mouth shut at the tribal so that John wouldn't play the idol. If they did and she still went ahead and said that a guy might be going, god that is stupid, so stupid. Wes's clean-up of her mess was elite though, my respect for him just keeps on rising. Jacelyn, on the other hand, I think is just an idiot.

I'm glad to see Rocker go. It was a fun run, but this is a good and fitting ending to that story. Fwiw, I think this will actually improve his general image. I think he portrayed himself as an ass, but not really a bigot, racist or a homophobe. I really like that he went out saying "well played", I always always have so much respect for people who can do that. Honestly, I think I could get along with Rocker. He just seems like a ridiculously difficult personality, not necessarily a bad guy at heart. Of course, the show is heavily edited and basically everyone but Dale the super diplomat hated him, so what do I know.

Good casting choices:
Rocker+Julie - He WAS great TV. Also, to his credit, despite not being a smart guy, he really tried to play the game. Julie seems like she might actually be more than a (big) pair of boobs with diamond earrings (on the island? seriously?), but being Rocker's loved one is a pretty big setback for obvious reasons. Him going home was the best thing that could have happened to her game, she might have a fair chance again now.

Wes+Keith - I wasn't too hot on them at first, but they are growing on me. Wes might go really far, he had a super strong episode.

Twinnies - I guess they are good casting choices. Nadya going first and Natalie staying was probably the dream scenario though.

Jeremy+Val - Val played a terrible game, but at least she didn't just lie down ad die. Jeremy is of course a very good casting choice all around. I really hope he can get over Val being gone now that Rocker is out. This might have actually worked out perfectly for him.

Josh+Reed: Both are actually playing, and Josh is taking the narrator role, giving pretty good confessionals, even if his gameplay seems erratic at times.

Bad/meh casting choices:
Alec+Drew: They just seem like douches with no real personality. Boring.

I like Dale, but I didn't even remember her daughters name.

I like Baylor, but the mom has only been good for a couple of lol confessionals this far.

Jacelyn seems like an idiot, and Jon has been pretty bland this far, really dislike them.


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« Reply #213 on: October 09, 2014, 10:51:43 am »
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This season has been amazing I feel. It seems like they got a group of the most kind-hearted people they could find and they are all really emotional with each-other and it's great to watch.

I think the show was great for rockers image especially with the contrast of john saying "hey people call me a homophobe but my legitimate ally and friend is a gay man" compared to the older guy who everyone likes and was seemingly getting along but saying some pretty homophobic things. It proved actions do speak louder than words and really don't know someone's true intentions till you get to know them.

I still think voting out john was THE WORST, no one is giving a million dollars to an unliked ex-professional baseball player and they really are doomed in challenges without him.

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« Reply #214 on: October 09, 2014, 12:38:08 pm »
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I'm just so happy to see stupid John Rocker voted off. He's gone now and that's over so now the season can actually begin in my mind. Just listen to the audio whenever he speaks, it's so heavily edited I really have no idea what he's actually saying.

I'm going to call it right now -- Rocker's girlfriend quits the game next episode. You heard it here first.

I think Jaclyn's talking at tribal council was justified because Rocker said to her that he wanted to vote Dale out, so Rocker thinks that she thinks a guy is going home. His facial reactions to that, well I just don't believe them because he was so heavily edited this season.

I really like Josh's game play this season, it may appear erratic but I think it's been very precise. His relationship with Baylor (who I also really like) is very interesting and it's clear there's a lot they aren't telling us about it. That's the thing to watch this season and I can't wait to see how it plays out.

What could Natalie possibly hope to gain by calling Rocker out at the immunity challenge? I feel like gameplay-wise that's just a huge mistake and she's lucky it didn't bite her immediately.

But for now, we celebrate the fact that I don't have to watch John Rocker on my television anymore.
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« Reply #215 on: October 10, 2014, 02:41:57 pm »
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Eh, I'm not super impressed with this season yet. Plenty of perfectly likable people--Keith, Dale, Josh, Baylor, Wes, Jeremy--come to mind. There's just not a lot of interesting strategic tension. Nothing like what was going on in the Brain tribe, or concerning Tony, last season.

But it's fine. I think Josh is cool but he's just trying a bit too hard and is painting an increasingly big target on his back by being too devious for no reason. I want to like Reed but we haven't seen enough of him. The sisters and brothers are terrible, the quicker all four are gone the better.

Okay, John Rocker. I know he is supposedly famously short-tempered; on Survivor, he was far from the most short-tempered player we have ever seen. I saw zero evidence of bigotry, in fact I think he went out of his way to dispel those labels as much as possible (which is something he should be doing given his past statements, sure, but okay, he did it!). Voting him out was abysmally terrible for the guys (it was great for Baylor and Other Girl, obviously). Never let the other gender have numbers for any reason is Survivor 101--just ask Troyzan! And they are certainly not MORE likely to win challenges now. I get why they didn't think they could trust him, but it's clear that Josh is about 10 times less trustworthy, so if they really wanted to take out a mastermind, it should have been Josh (I wouldn't have agreed with that either, but it would be more logical). John will be easy to defeat later, no need to take him out now. Also, why the f**** are you taking advice from the other tribe? It's an admission of weakness for the team to cater to Natalie's demands.
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« Reply #216 on: October 10, 2014, 06:06:02 pm »
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Eh, I'm not super impressed with this season yet. Plenty of perfectly likable people--Keith, Dale, Josh, Baylor, Wes, Jeremy--come to mind. There's just not a lot of interesting strategic tension. Nothing like what was going on in the Brain tribe, or concerning Tony, last season.

But it's fine. I think Josh is cool but he's just trying a bit too hard and is painting an increasingly big target on his back by being too devious for no reason. I want to like Reed but we haven't seen enough of him. The sisters and brothers are terrible, the quicker all four are gone the better.

Okay, John Rocker. I know he is supposedly famously short-tempered; on Survivor, he was far from the most short-tempered player we have ever seen. I saw zero evidence of bigotry, in fact I think he went out of his way to dispel those labels as much as possible (which is something he should be doing given his past statements, sure, but okay, he did it!). Voting him out was abysmally terrible for the guys (it was great for Baylor and Other Girl, obviously). Never let the other gender have numbers for any reason is Survivor 101--just ask Troyzan! And they are certainly not MORE likely to win challenges now. I get why they didn't think they could trust him, but it's clear that Josh is about 10 times less trustworthy, so if they really wanted to take out a mastermind, it should have been Josh (I wouldn't have agreed with that either, but it would be more logical). John will be easy to defeat later, no need to take him out now. Also, why the f**** are you taking advice from the other tribe? It's an admission of weakness for the team to cater to Natalie's demands.
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« Reply #217 on: October 10, 2014, 06:15:14 pm »
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Eh, I'm not super impressed with this season yet. Plenty of perfectly likable people--Keith, Dale, Josh, Baylor, Wes, Jeremy--come to mind. There's just not a lot of interesting strategic tension. Nothing like what was going on in the Brain tribe, or concerning Tony, last season.

But it's fine. I think Josh is cool but he's just trying a bit too hard and is painting an increasingly big target on his back by being too devious for no reason. I want to like Reed but we haven't seen enough of him. The sisters and brothers are terrible, the quicker all four are gone the better.

Okay, John Rocker. I know he is supposedly famously short-tempered; on Survivor, he was far from the most short-tempered player we have ever seen. I saw zero evidence of bigotry, in fact I think he went out of his way to dispel those labels as much as possible (which is something he should be doing given his past statements, sure, but okay, he did it!). Voting him out was abysmally terrible for the guys (it was great for Baylor and Other Girl, obviously). Never let the other gender have numbers for any reason is Survivor 101--just ask Troyzan! And they are certainly not MORE likely to win challenges now. I get why they didn't think they could trust him, but it's clear that Josh is about 10 times less trustworthy, so if they really wanted to take out a mastermind, it should have been Josh (I wouldn't have agreed with that either, but it would be more logical). John will be easy to defeat later, no need to take him out now. Also, why the f**** are you taking advice from the other tribe? It's an admission of weakness for the team to cater to Natalie's demands.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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« Reply #218 on: October 10, 2014, 06:24:43 pm »
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Well I was just gonna let it go, but since Eevee felt it necessary to voice his agreement with Robz, I'll point out the the one thing I disagree with.

Remember last season when some people thought Tony was playing "too hard" and that it wasn't going to work out for him, and I thought he was playing reasonably well? This talk about Josh really reminds me of that. I think Josh is playing pretty well and others think he's playing too hard. I'm going to refer to my 1-0 perfect score here and say that I really like Josh's game and I don't think it's too aggressive. He stated his reasons for wanting to get rid of Rocker, and I agreed with his reasons and his decision.

I'm not going to pretend that my judgment isn't clouded by the fact that I hate John Rocker, because it is. But I stated reasons previously why I thought getting rid of him early would be a good idea, and Josh agreed with those reasons, so naturally I am pleased with him  :P
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« Reply #219 on: October 11, 2014, 10:21:57 am »
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I agree it's working out great for Josh, I'd say he is in the best position to win the game now. Funnily enough, it would probably behoove him if they kept on losing immunity challenges, because I'm sure his post-merge game is to get together with Reed and other people not in an alliance on the other side. In that light, losing Rocker's challenge prowess actually works out great for him

I'm just surprised people aren't wising up to the fact that he hasn't voted the way he told his alliance in the first two councils. To make it worse, I don't see any benefit in not telling Baylor he was going to vote for her the first time around, if you are going to hide that connection from your alliance, it would make much more sense to tell her instead of surprising her like that, and jeopardizing the trust.

But, of course Josh is thinking strategically and has full control of his tribe now. It also helps he doesn't look like a physical threat, and that everyone seems to like him.

edit: By the way, in his exit interview Rocker said they are actually friends with Natalie&Nadya and Jeremy and Val now, and that they talk weekly and actually were all on a skype call together when the episode aired. They also didn't show Natalia just reaming on the other tribe and Rocker for a full minute already in last challenge. In Rocker's words "you know, I had to take it and listen to her bash me like a pussy, or shout back at her and be an asshole. I chose the latter".
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« Reply #220 on: October 11, 2014, 10:29:54 am »
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I think the comparison to Tony is very accurate for Josh. But I also think Tony took on unnecessary risk in the early game by playing too hard, and so is Josh.
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« Reply #221 on: October 11, 2014, 07:34:59 pm »
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Jackie from this season is my roommates cousin! Rooting for her. (And actually watching for the first time).
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« Reply #222 on: October 15, 2014, 08:51:33 pm »
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Adam's prediction of Rocker's girlfriend quitting was a good one, but she seems to be pretty emotional strong considering the circumstances.

This guy Drew throwing the challenge....does he really not notice that everyone at camp hates that he does nothing? lol. also he thinks he is a mastermind but is so far from it.

This season has been awfully bleh. Not a lot of exciting things happening, a lot of the castaways are fans of the game but aren't very good at playing it. We'll see how this vote goes
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« Reply #223 on: October 15, 2014, 09:01:17 pm »
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LOLOLOLOLOL possibly the dumbest survivor contestant ever? I'm having trouble thinking of ones to compare Drew to
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« Reply #224 on: October 16, 2014, 05:26:45 am »
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That was hilarious. "I am the lynchpin of my tribe because I can cause us to lose challenges" wait what?
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« Reply #225 on: October 16, 2014, 01:50:40 pm »
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Kelley had a strong episode. I didn't even know she existed before this episode, but she came off really well here.

Drew just might be the single most annoying contestant of all time? I can't think of anyone else that had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Never been so happy to see someone go. Can you imagine having to live with him or Alec?

Jeremy is way too emotional every time something goes wrong. No way he can win the game with self control like that, glad he is rolling with the girls though. I think the winner is going to be Josh, Wes or Julie. I'm eliminating Reed and Kelley based on edit, and everyone else based on not playing well. Baylor could win I guess, she has been getting a lot of strategic confessionals. It would require her to make a move on Josh though. Would be great to have a young and pretty female who actually outplays people strategically, so I'm sort of hoping for that option (although I'd rather it be Kelley, but she just hasn't been getting the air time).
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« Reply #226 on: October 18, 2014, 11:36:37 am »
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Never been so happy to see someone go.

I haven't been so happy to see someone go since John Rocker.  :P

But I liked everything his g/f had to say about the situation and hopefully we can see whether or not she's an actual person. She said something like "some people just judge him because of his past and never give him a chance."

Yeah that's definitely me, I definitely did that. I feel like he doesn't deserve a chance. I mean if Hitler or Bin Laden went on Survivor I wouldn't give them a chance. Obviously John Rocker isn't as bad as them, but there is such a thing as "doesn't deserve a chance on Survivor" and I think John Rocker is one of those people.

Maybe that makes me a bad person, but at least I'm not as bad as John Rocker.

Drew. Wow. I feel like he watched Episode 1 of Samoa and said "I wanna be like Russell! Let me vote of a girl and play really aggressively!" and didn't realize that you have to play with finesse and thought as well. The guys on that tribe, I mean they're in really big trouble and I don't think they realize it, which is really really sad.
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« Reply #227 on: October 21, 2014, 03:53:06 pm »
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Finally caught up. Drew! That was hella satisfying. Also, when was the last time 4 different people got votes? That rarely ever happens. Awesome.

Getting out Drew was absolutely correct. The girls of the tribe proved they were about 1000 times smarter than the men. Jeremy is also smart but way way way too emotional, even though he was completely right about what Keith did. I liked Keith but I think he doesn't understand Survivor well enough to go far. I'm now thoroughly unimpressed by Reed and the other guy, Drew's friend guy, is a moron.

Josh, Wes, or Baylor seem like only possible winners at this point.
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« Reply #228 on: October 22, 2014, 08:31:08 pm »
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Finally watched! Putting off this week's episode because my tv antenna sucks.

So happy to see Drew go. So happy to see Kelly get screentime; she was my favorite from the pregame interviews. She seems like a really good conversationalist. I still think her social game might come on strong.
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« Reply #229 on: October 23, 2014, 03:17:42 am »
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Great lesson on the importance of being likable around camp. Jon and Jacelyn got to the power position of getting to choose who goes just because the two other couples fought over rice! Jon is sort of growing on me, of course he got incredibly lucky with the timing of this swap, but he could go far, especially with the edit he is getting. I really dislike his girlfriend, though.

I'm extremely sad to see Kelley go, I really saw potential in her. I don't see anyone with surprise equity for winning, it's going to be Josh or Jon, with an outside chance of Wes or Jeremy.

We are being shown a lot of Baylor, and she has shown that she is there to play and has connections everywhere. It's just that.. I don't think all her moves have been that good. The fact she is getting such a visible edit is likely to lead somewhere though, unless they just want to have a stronger, more independent cute young femaly contestant for once.
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« Reply #230 on: October 23, 2014, 07:10:47 pm »
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So after the tribes swap, Keith is the only single person on a tribe of three other couples. Jeff asks him if he's nervous or anything about it...

What Keith does: he tells the tribe all the reasons they have to vote him off and says he's worried about it.

What he should do: tell the tribe all of the reasons they have to keep him around and vote each other off.

You would think this kind of thing would be common knowledge among Survivor fans, but Jeff manages to get people to make small misplays like this all the time. Jon, on the other hand, did some great things to help his position by staying positive. I was legitimately impressed.
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« Reply #231 on: October 26, 2014, 04:02:07 pm »
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I don't understand why you guys think there are only 3 people who can win this season. Anything can happen in survivor. And no one this year strikes me as a strong player., it's been a rather weak+boring season. I also don't see what everyone else does in Baylor. She seems like an easy person to dislike, very whiny and not loyal.
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« Reply #232 on: October 26, 2014, 06:04:05 pm »
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I think they may be referring to people getting a "winner's edit" -- they always seem to show the winner  in a somewhat positive light, and rarely ignore them for an entire episode. There are several people that just haven't been shown enough to be viable as winners under this theory.

As far as Baylor goes, the reason I started out liking her has a lot to do with the fact that I've been applying for the show for a while now -- I really like it when they don't take recruits because I can identify with them. It just feels to me like Baylor is a real person that I can connect to. She isn't loyal to her alliance because she reads they aren't loyal to her and aren't looking out for her, but she's been able to get by and not get voted out thus far. I can't defend whiny-ness, though.

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« Reply #233 on: October 27, 2014, 03:32:46 pm »
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Speaking of applying for the show. I'm going to be making my application video soon. I may post it if I feel like asking for input. Let this year be the year they finally call me back!

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« Reply #234 on: October 27, 2014, 03:40:16 pm »
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Speaking of applying for the show. I'm going to be making my application video soon. I may post it if I feel like asking for input. Let this year be the year they finally call me back!

When are they due?

Usually there's a due date posted on the application website, but I know for a fact that they've accepted videos after that due date (up until they've finished with phone interviews). This year they don't have a due date; they only say that they'll start calling people back from December to February.

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« Reply #235 on: October 30, 2014, 02:10:52 pm »
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Natalie is growing on me.

I feel Missy was doing absolutely nothing of use in the immunity puzzle, whereas Josh and Reed worked together great. So useless, I was hoping she'd go. Gg Dale though. Anyways I'm glad the blue tribe is dominating!

I'm surprised if Julie will be the quitter, I thought she was being given a pretty strong edit.
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« Reply #236 on: October 30, 2014, 09:38:58 pm »
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I find all the bartering that blue tribe is doing just ridiculous.
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« Reply #237 on: October 31, 2014, 06:12:56 pm »
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I find all the bartering that blue tribe is doing just ridiculous.

Yeah for real. It's called Survivor for a reason. On a separate not, I can't stand Missy, I think she is my least favorite this year. Not a big fan of Baylor either, but at least she is playing the game.
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« Reply #238 on: November 09, 2014, 01:58:46 pm »
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So we all already know how I feel about Julie. Ugh. Sickening. If I can see it coming from so early, why would they cast her? It's honestly insulting as someone who applies to the show to see that happen.

Anyways, speaking of applying for the show, I've finished my first draft of my audition video for this year. I'll link it here in case anyone wants to provide any feedback; I'll probably submit it soon.
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« Reply #239 on: November 09, 2014, 03:05:28 pm »
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Yeah, Julie quitting was very anticlimatic. However, not having a tribal council or a reward challenge meant we got to see so much more of what's going on at camp and how people strategize, so I really liked that. The power struggle between Josh and Jeremy is like the only saving grace of the season, so prolonging that even for just one week feels somewhat satisfying. How terrible will the season be once one of them is gone?


Nice video!

All the successful audition videos I've seen (Frosty, Tyson, Erik) have had them doing different things in different environments, so I guess the one suggestion I'd have is that just sitting down in front of a blank wall and talking to camera can make you seem a bit colorless. So, you know, something flashier might help you with catching their attention? You even know video editing, so you could build something that's put together from scenes from different places.
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« Reply #240 on: November 09, 2014, 03:52:39 pm »
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All the successful audition videos I've seen (Frosty, Tyson, Erik) have had them doing different things in different environments

That shouldn't be too hard to do. Thanks for the feedback  ;D
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« Reply #241 on: November 13, 2014, 02:26:42 pm »
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I finally caught up. This is a dreadful season. It's definitely bottom 5, maybe bottom 3. The cast just isn't very good. The loved ones mechanic is failing in that regard; like, Jon Rocker was interesting, but absent him, his loved one is a trainwreck--and not an entertaining trainwreck, just a trainwreck. Ugh, Julie. You are dead to me.

John and Jacyln made the correct call in voting out Josh. They have a pretty clear path to the final four now--kill off the entire other alliance, then play the "Jeremy is too big a threat" card with Baylor and Missy, take out Jeremy and Natalie, and boom. Their odds there are much better than with the other alliance, where it would have been an uphill battle against Josh + Reed + Keith + Wes + Alec.

I liked Josh, but his problem was he was playing too strategically among people who aren't playing at all. Tony's mania worked because there were a bunch of other manics stirring the pot most of the time. Josh was just too obvious. Also, he really didn't handle the Baylor situation well. "You owe me" has never been a successful Survivor strategy ever, even in cases where one person clearly did owe another (I'm not convinced that was actually the case here).

But I actually think Jeremy is playing a somewhat better game than Josh, so I was glad to see him prevail. He's equally perceptive but a bit lower key. I suppose he is who I am rooting for at this point.

Missy actually showed some strategic acumen here. My respect for her rose.
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« Reply #242 on: November 13, 2014, 02:37:38 pm »
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Now that Josh is gone, there aren't many people left that I'm rooting for. There's Baylor and that's basically it, and it's not all that much. Who is left that we've really seen much personality for? Keith? Baylor? Jeremy? Like that's it, they haven't really given us all that much on anyone else.

I didn't like the Blood vs. Water part when they first did it because they didn't take any applicants. This season it's really falling flat for me because it drastically reduces the number of different social groups that can form. Couples will never split up and they operate as one unit so that means for two people that are in the game, you basically only get the interest of one.

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« Reply #243 on: November 16, 2014, 05:02:31 pm »
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While I'm glad Jeremy won out in the end and the reason for it was especially satisfying, Josh comes out really likable in his exit interview with Rob C. He was a great casting choice! I wouldn't mind seeing him back, but Reed has been a huge disappointment.

Jeremy would be the only satisfying winner for me now. Prediction: Baylor will be dragged to the end as a goat, and will receive the lowest amount of votes there.
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« Reply #244 on: November 19, 2014, 08:58:37 pm »
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Geez. Didn't see that coming. Not a good move by Jon and Jackie.
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« Reply #245 on: November 20, 2014, 02:24:17 am »
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So upsetting! I liked Jeremy. Totally didn't see it coming either with the way the episode was edited.

I'm rooting for Natalie now, not that it's looking particularly great for her. I really liked her voluntarily going to exile and now giving up the reward, girl is there to play.
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« Reply #246 on: November 20, 2014, 08:46:45 am »
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Who do you guys think will win? Two weeks ago I was so sure it had to be Josh, Jeremy, or Jon, but Jon and Jacelyn flipping so early blew the game wide open again. I can't see Alec winning, and Baylor would be surprising too, but for the most part I think it's really anyone's game now. I'm hopeful for an interesting finish, these past three episodes have been much better than the season was pre-merge.
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« Reply #247 on: November 20, 2014, 08:58:12 am »
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I think Jon is going to win, which makes me sad. I'd rather see Baylor win. Jon/Jaclyn are playing a very similar game to Kass but they're being edited much differently.

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« Reply #248 on: November 20, 2014, 09:07:51 am »
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I think Jon is going to win, which makes me sad. I'd rather see Baylor win. Jon/Jaclyn are playing a very similar game to Kass but they're being edited much differently.

They really like to show clips of Keith spitting.
I don't know if Jon's in such a good position having flipped this early. If he can survive the next two votes, sure, but it doesn't look obvious to me he has the numbers locked up right now, and he is of course a big threat, especially if/when the fact he has an idol comes out (I'm assuming Natalie will tell everyone).

Who is going to vote for Baylor, other than her mom? I think she has an excellent chance of getting dragged to the end as a goat and receiving no votes (other than her mom's).

My rooting interest is Natalie, but she really has to maneuver the swing vote position well to get to the end. Next episode will be big for her. If she does get to the end and win, I'd say she is a deserving winner too. She's played a good game.
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« Reply #249 on: November 20, 2014, 09:10:04 am »
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Who is going to vote for Baylor, other than her mom? I think she has an excellent chance of getting dragged to the end as a goat and receiving no votes (other than her mom's).

Oh I'm not saying she has a chance of winning, just that she's the one I'm rooting for.
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« Reply #250 on: November 20, 2014, 09:22:52 am »
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Who is going to vote for Baylor, other than her mom? I think she has an excellent chance of getting dragged to the end as a goat and receiving no votes (other than her mom's).

Oh I'm not saying she has a chance of winning, just that she's the one I'm rooting for.
Oh, right. She is cute!

So, Wes, Alec and Keith are a tight trio. Baylor and Missy are inseparable, as are Jon and Jacelyn, and Reed and Natalie are the swing votes with no alliance. Shouldn't Missy just team up with Reed and Natalie, or even the guys, to vote out Jon here? The three meatheads aren't going to vote with Jon and Jacelyn, they hate them for flipping on them. Natalie hates them for flipping on her. I know Jon is getting a strong edit and all, but I don't think his position is good at all here.

Are we marching towards a Missy win? Honestly, somehow the meatheads are in the best position now, but I just don't see any of them winning because they are such dumb dumbs. They do have the numbers now, and if Missy orchestrates a Jon vote out next episode, she might have a hard time convincing Jacelyn to work with her (not that she is going to want to go with the meat heads either).
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #251 on: November 20, 2014, 09:30:58 am »
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Who is going to vote for Baylor, other than her mom? I think she has an excellent chance of getting dragged to the end as a goat and receiving no votes (other than her mom's).

Oh I'm not saying she has a chance of winning, just that she's the one I'm rooting for.
Oh, right. She is cute!

I mean, I guess? I'm not rooting for her because of looks, though. If I was rooting for people based on looks I would have stopped watching the season when Josh got voted out :P

I like Baylor because she seems like a real person -- I believe she applied for the show and she wasn't cast because of some silly gimmick role she was supposed to fill.

John Rocker and Julie -- John Rocker
Jeremy and Val -- Police/Firefighter
Keith and Wes -- Keith is a firefighter
Jon and Jaclyn -- Football player/pageant girl
Alec and Whatshisface -- Whatshisface is a model
Nadiya and Natalie -- Amazing Race

I like to hold out hope that maybe I can get cast on the show just by being a fan of the show and good television, and not because of some interesting job I have (because my job is not interesting).
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« Reply #252 on: November 20, 2014, 09:31:59 am »
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I think reed has the best shot
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« Reply #253 on: November 20, 2014, 09:56:18 am »
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I think reed has the best shot
He was hands down the biggest winner of the Jeremy boot.
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« Reply #254 on: November 20, 2014, 03:49:12 pm »
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Who is going to vote for Baylor, other than her mom? I think she has an excellent chance of getting dragged to the end as a goat and receiving no votes (other than her mom's).

Oh I'm not saying she has a chance of winning, just that she's the one I'm rooting for.
Oh, right. She is cute!

I mean, I guess? I'm not rooting for her because of looks, though. If I was rooting for people based on looks I would have stopped watching the season when Josh got voted out :P

I like Baylor because she seems like a real person -- I believe she applied for the show and she wasn't cast because of some silly gimmick role she was supposed to fill.

John Rocker and Julie -- John Rocker
Jeremy and Val -- Police/Firefighter
Keith and Wes -- Keith is a firefighter
Jon and Jaclyn -- Football player/pageant girl
Alec and Whatshisface -- Whatshisface is a model
Nadiya and Natalie -- Amazing Race

I like to hold out hope that maybe I can get cast on the show just by being a fan of the show and good television, and not because of some interesting job I have (because my job is not interesting).
Baylor is filling a role as much as the others you listed. All the seasons have young, pretty girls. Baylor is somewhat different because she is actually trying to play hard and not just coasting along though, I really like that. She reminds me a bit of Ciera from the previous BvW season.

I think you are also selling Jeremy short there. I'm sure they didn't just cast three firefighters because they need firefighters in the show. Both Val and Jeremy had been fans of the game for a long time, and Jeremy gave just elite confessional material, which I'm sure was obvious from very early on in the casting. Wes and Keith probably got in because Keith is a goofball, and they want some older people on the show as well. You can't deny that the Twinnies are big characters and interesting, love them or hate them. I have absolutely no idea why Alec and Drew got casted, probably because they are so delusional and vaguely interesting in their idiocy? The Julie casting is really annoying. I mean, I get that Rocker is famous and makes for entertaining tv, but they must have seen how suspect Julie is for quitting if anything goes wrong, or even if it doesn't.. weather wise, this has been one of the easiest seasons ever and her position in the game at the time of the quit was very much ok.

I'm still holding out hope for an exciting finish. I've long gone abandonded expectations of masterful play, but it's pretty great that most of the people seem to have a legitimate chance of winning at F9. It isn't the case often.
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« Reply #255 on: November 21, 2014, 02:27:35 pm »
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Caught up. That was legitimately shocking... I think, because it made no sense for the people who did it. I get that Jon and Jackie were concerned that Jeremy was on to them about the idol, but surely they should have waited a couple episodes to pull this move. What's their alliance now? Just four people if they've lot Natalie. In fact, Natalie can and should join Reed, Wes, Keith, and Alec. They have a majority!

I'm not sure why Missy and Baylor went along with that. They were in prime position to play spoiler when it came down to Jeremy and Natalie vs. Jon and Jackie. Now they are in a minority, and they have very little wiggle room.

Jon and Jackie have been making smart moves. This would have been a smart move a couple days later, but they pulled the trigger way too soon. Natalie and Reed should be competent enough to orchestrate revenge of the Gross Guys Alliance. I'll even be rooting for that, as long as one of the gross guys doesn't actually win.
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« Reply #256 on: November 22, 2014, 12:10:52 am »
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Caught up. That was legitimately shocking... I think, because it made no sense for the people who did it. I get that Jon and Jackie were concerned that Jeremy was on to them about the idol, but surely they should have waited a couple episodes to pull this move. What's their alliance now? Just four people if they've lot Natalie. In fact, Natalie can and should join Reed, Wes, Keith, and Alec. They have a majority!

I'm not sure why Missy and Baylor went along with that. They were in prime position to play spoiler when it came down to Jeremy and Natalie vs. Jon and Jackie. Now they are in a minority, and they have very little wiggle room.

Jon and Jackie have been making smart moves. This would have been a smart move a couple days later, but they pulled the trigger way too soon. Natalie and Reed should be competent enough to orchestrate revenge of the Gross Guys Alliance. I'll even be rooting for that, as long as one of the gross guys doesn't actually win.

It looked like Reed was in on it too possibly. So he'd be 5, but I think he'd choose Alec/Wes/Keith/Natalie if given the choice.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #257 on: November 25, 2014, 06:47:12 pm »
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« Reply #258 on: December 04, 2014, 03:52:32 pm »
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I think not voting off Jackie was a mistake by Natalie/Baylor. Natalie is playing a strong game though. I think Keith will win if he gets to the final vote.
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« Reply #259 on: December 16, 2014, 09:27:50 pm »
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Keith at the spa is good tv.
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« Reply #260 on: December 16, 2014, 09:34:14 pm »
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Keith at the spa is good tv.
😂😂

It's hilarious he also has a real shot of winning the game. If Natalie doesn't win, I'm hoping he does for the comedy value. Just imagine the post-win interviews!
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #261 on: December 17, 2014, 10:40:29 am »
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I'm happy to see Jon finally voted out. I don't think anyone left has been getting a "winner's edit" so that actually makes me really happy.

Of course I'm rooting for Baylor  :)
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« Reply #262 on: December 17, 2014, 11:19:36 am »
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It's Natalie or bust at this point.
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« Reply #263 on: December 18, 2014, 08:09:57 pm »
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Ultimately, I think it was an ok season. Maybe the level of play sometimes wasn't always the highest and there wasn't a character like tony, but it was certainly unpredictable, full of comedic moments and in the end we got a satisfying and deserving winner. I would say Nat wanted it more than anyone, which is always a quality I respect a lot.

I usually love the reunion show, but this one was really boring. I hated how little focus there was in gameplay, and how many little kids and talking about cultural significance there was. Probst is sometimes very annoying, and BvW with all the crying certainly highlights that so I'm glad we are done with that now. The jury questions and answers, apart from Reed's monologue were among the most boring ever, with both Jac and Missy shamelessly going for the pity card and Nat failing to demonstrate how superior she was. I think, given gameplay she could have won more convincingly, but it seems the jury had coordinated their votes together to reach their desires outcome (and money split?), I can't explain Jeremy voting for Jac otherwise after the speech he gave. It's pretty stupid that that's what's happening at ponderosa every season now.

After how interesting Reed was in his final days and in the final tribal council, it seems like a crime they edited him the way they did for the first half of the game. His story arc could really have been very compelling with Keith's blurb in the final and Jon's and Jac's ridiculous fight (potentially) screwing him over, had we gotten to know him better earlier.

One of the most boring things that can happen in survivor is the bottom being content with their situation and going into that good night silently. Say what you want about this season, but you can't blame them about that here. The person who I and I think most others perceived as the most powerful got the axe time and time again. The editors were very tricky this time around with all of Josh, Jeremy and Jon looking like potential winners only to be out next episode.

Who would I like to see back? Well, the cast wasn't great, not anyone really? Jeremy, Natalie, Josh and Reed seem like the best candidates, but they all got a fairly fair chance of showing their game already, so there would likely be better options available.
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« Reply #264 on: December 19, 2014, 07:15:33 pm »
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Terrible season, IMO. I think only Fabio's was worse. If Natalie had lost, it might have surpassed Fabio's season in badness. Just a bad cast.

I wouldn't mind seeing Reed, Josh, Natalie, or Keith again. Everybody else was so bland or annoying.
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« Reply #265 on: December 20, 2014, 03:12:06 pm »
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I think the season itself was OK, if the cast had been better I think it would have been much better. The only people I really liked were Josh and Baylor, 2 out of 18. Compare that to season 2 where 16 out of 16 were amazing choices. I feel like this season would have been much better if they had just cast me!  :P

I was really frustrated to be rooting for Natalie at F3, partly because she was only cast on the show because she was on another reality show, but mostly because we didn't get to see her do anything or talk about her plans before F7. I liked her blindside of Jon, but the move to take out Baylor didn't seem very smart. She was guaranteed to make F3 with her and most of the jury didn't like her anyways.

I hope this season convinces CBS that blood vs water is a bad idea. I was really hopeful that this season would be good because of it and looking back, BvW just made it worse. It would be so much better if there was the chance of people turning on each other, you know? Party of what makes the game gray is that you're playing with strangers and you can't fully trust anyone.

I have to say I really liked the challenges this season. I love endurance challenges and they did a lot of them. I wish Jeff wouldn't have stopped the one challenge that they let Missy win though.
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« Reply #266 on: December 20, 2014, 09:43:46 pm »
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I too hope this is the end of BvW's.

Why did they ever stop having the last inmunity challenge be a test of will? I thought that was always very fitting.

I think Natalie played all around an elite game, and I was prejudiced against her before the season for being a twinnie. Her move to vote out Baylor in F5 was absolutely advantageous, the chances of anyone but her or Keith winning the final inmunity had to have been like 10% and if Keith wins it, she is likely just going home unless she breaks up Missy and Baylor. Excellent foresight and execution, just a great game from Natalie that was somewhat overshadowed by Jeremy, Josh and Jon getting to play the narrator for the season.

Adam, how on earth does Nat do better in Bay+Missy+Keith compared to Missy-Jac-Keith? Do you think that Jac or missy is likely to win inmunity or that Bay+Missy are so likely to force a tie that Natalie is winning it often enough?

Btw, I just loved how well Nat did in all of the challenges thattested pain threshold and wanting it more. Really just all-around glad Natalie won, I feel she is a super deserving winner. It's also a great story that her twin sister was voted out first, although I can imagine that could be pretty poisonous to their relationship (of course hoping it won't be).
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« Reply #267 on: December 21, 2014, 06:45:09 am »
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Her move to vote out Baylor in F5 was absolutely advantageous,

Adam, how on earth does Nat do better in Bay+Missy+Keith compared to Missy-Jac-Keith? Do you think that Jac or missy is likely to win inmunity or that Bay+Missy are so likely to force a tie that Natalie is winning it often enough?

You're saying she should have kept Jaclyn around to help beat Keith in immunity challenges? At that point Baylor had a better record in challenges than Jaclyn did. And I thought at that point the plan was Baylor/Missy/Natalie for F3, especially with Keith around. I'm not sure what she gained by breaking that up.
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« Reply #268 on: December 21, 2014, 07:56:08 am »
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Her move to vote out Baylor in F5 was absolutely advantageous,

Adam, how on earth does Nat do better in Bay+Missy+Keith compared to Missy-Jac-Keith? Do you think that Jac or missy is likely to win inmunity or that Bay+Missy are so likely to force a tie that Natalie is winning it often enough?

You're saying she should have kept Jaclyn around to help beat Keith in immunity challenges? At that point Baylor had a better record in challenges than Jaclyn did. And I thought at that point the plan was Baylor/Missy/Natalie for F3, especially with Keith around. I'm not sure what she gained by breaking that up.
I'm saying that unless she wins the challenge herself (in which case keeping Baylor and Missy is optimal, but as long as she votes out Keith, she is winning the game in all scenarios), it's overwhelmingly likely Keith will have won the immunity and she'd be in a terrible spot, hoping that Keith will force a tie for her. It's not about needing Jac around to beat Keith, it's about not being at F4 with an unbreakable pair if Keith wins.

As you saw, Missy wasn't even bitter about the move, she said she was relieved. Had Keith won the immunity, I don't think anyone would have been looking to vote Nat out. The move arguably made sure she reached the finals whatever happened, with help of the others left in the game having an incorrect perception of how the jury perceived them.
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« Reply #269 on: February 19, 2015, 11:39:14 am »
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Six days until the Season 30 premiere! Cast bios and videos are on CBS's website. I haven't looked at it in too much detail, but I have some impressions about the casting:

My fiancee and I joke about how in order to get cast on Survivor as a woman you HAVE to be attractive but as a man, you don't. I think they threw that out the window this season, most of the men this season have that same look about them that I'm sure lots of women love (they're not my type though).

So the entire "No Collar" tribe is where they put all of the Los Angeles recruits? It seems there's no hope for a software developer to get on the show because my job is too boring. Sigh.

Does anyone stick out as particularly interesting pre-season?
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« Reply #270 on: March 17, 2015, 09:38:44 pm »
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So, I'm all caught up on Survivor W vs B vs N (my personal abbreviation). I know the next episode is tomorrow night, and it's a TWO HOUR LONG SPECIAL!!! But, I have a contradiction. As of last year, a am a huge fan of Arrow, and it just so happens that it shares a time slot with Survivor. I know this is entering the "Survivor" thread, so all your answers might be biased, but I would like to hear some opinions. What should I watch, Arrow or Survivor?
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« Reply #271 on: March 17, 2015, 09:39:41 pm »
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Survivor.

That one was easy  :P
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« Reply #272 on: March 18, 2015, 04:34:35 am »
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How do you guys feel about the season?

I'm liking it this far. The swap tomorrow should be very interesting.
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« Reply #273 on: March 18, 2015, 07:41:16 am »
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So I'm having a little bit of trouble finding anyone I like this season. After the first episode I thought Jenn might be pretty smart but after seeing her group stumble through these two tribal councils, that sort of got lost, I'm back to the standard resentment for the Recruit Tribe ("no collar tribe"). The only guy on the Blue Collar tribe that I like is the mail man, and I don't even remember his name so that shows you how much I like him.

The White Collars are a little more interesting, I kind of liked Shirin for a bit but not anymore, so it's between Max and Carolyn. Let's just hope we get to see something that makes me like people more, yeah?

As for a tribe switch, I think I've said this before but this season would be much more interesting if they didn't do it. I wish they would take three tribes into a merge, I wish they would actuall follow through on their theme rather than abandoning it three episodes into the game. But oh well.

I'm sort of rooting for the white collar people, I guess I'm more like a white collar guy myself and they remind me of the brain tribe which I also liked.
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« Reply #274 on: March 18, 2015, 09:54:52 am »
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Brain tribe, the least successful tribe in the history of the show? :)

For me, the big thing is, even after the first episode, I remembered pretty much everyone's name. Sierra and Kelly have gotten pretty much invisible edits, but I'm pretty sure I could actually give a sentence or two about everyone else in the game already. It's remarkable. I did watch a lot of pre-game stuff though which I had never done to this extent, so that is probably a factor too.

Lindsey is hilarious. "Wish come through motherfucker" is the single greatest line of the show this far. She can't go far, but she has personality and is good tv. Boston Rod, also hilarious. I thought he'd be much more of a tool, he is still a tool but has some serious chops as well.

I like Max, and Tyler, while not likable per se for me, seems like a really solid player.

If I was gay, I'd want to date Joe. He might have the hair I've ever seen on anyone, and seems just about the nicest guy on the planet. Splitting of the vote in episode 2 was a really bad look strategically, but I'm holding out hope. Will is fun to watch. Jenn seems cool, although her attitude will get her in trouble.

Just thinking of the boots, Nina was bad at every aspect of the game, but So could have actually done some damage had things gone differently and Vince was incredibly entertaining.

Apart from Nina, I don't see any total duds in the cast (and Nina could have been great buffer for the better character in NC to survive further.. alas). One thing to remember about the theme, they cast people first and come up with the theme later. It's pretty much just an inconsequential marketing shtick, and when they inevitably stop with the work ethic theme after the swap, I think the season will be better for it.

Who do I think could win? Tyler certainly, then maybe Carolyn (played deceptively well this far), Kelly (total non-factor in the edit though), Joaquin (seems to have a decent head in his shoulders, possibly not likable enough though), Max although it's tricky for him, I guess Joe although getting duped by Vince of all people about Nina having an idol (???) is not a good look.

Just a lot of story lines I'm interested in. Yay for double episode tonight!
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« Reply #275 on: March 18, 2015, 10:29:39 am »
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Brain tribe, the least successful tribe in the history of the show? :)

Hey, Ulong was less successful, at least Spencer and Kass made it deep in the game that season. And however successful they were, I still liked them, especially Spencer <3 <3 <3
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« Reply #276 on: March 18, 2015, 08:01:13 pm »
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Eevee, I agree with virtually every word of what you said! This season feels full of a lot of a lot of real and interesting people.

On that note, Adam, why do you call no collar the recruit/model tribe? I've enjoyed watching them quite a lot, though sure they've been making plenty of mistakes (chief among them was voting out Vince, which fell squarely on Will and surely doomed them). Calling them recruits seems to really belittle their genuinely interesting qualities, and the fact that they have the looks to be what you've called the "model" tribe shouldn't actually diminish their value as players. Jenn KEEPS talking about how she's been a fan since she was 8, and Haley is a criminal justice lawyer trying to overturn the freaking system! Of course, they must be judged on how they actually play, and so far it's so-so at best.

If I was gay, I'd want to date Joe.

F*** yes!! He's made some seriously questionable decisions, but all can be forgiven. I have a soft spot for Nina since I have moderate hearing loss myself, and I think that she may well have performed better than Will, but both of them are/were weak. Nina was playing pretty poorly and seemed to be overreacting to how the others were treating her.

Hey, Ulong was less successful, at least Spencer and Kass made it deep in the game that season. And however successful they were, I still liked them, especially Spencer <3 <3 <3

I loved brain tribe! Tosha was great too. A few of my friends who know Survivor say he and I are eerily similar. O.o

Edit: it's Hali and she's actually in law school rather than already a lawyer, oops.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #277 on: March 18, 2015, 08:11:32 pm »
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On that note, Adam, why do you call no collar the recruit/model tribe?

They're all from the LA area or were found on YouTube. As a YouTube sensation myself who has applied repeatedly, I recognize and embrace my personal bias on this issue.

But anyone who was recruited or anyone who says they're a fan of the show has something to prove to me. If Jenn was really a fan of the show I'd really expect her to play better than what she did. She was on her way to proving me wrong during the first episode but took steps backwards in both of the last two episodes.

Maybe I'm expecting too much, but I really enjoy watching people on reality TV who aren't caricatures, but are real people with real flaws and quirks and have depth to their personality. You know, people like me who would make great TV and aren't completely one-dimensional, and could arguably play the game at a high level at the same time (are you reading this CBS?) Joe is an attractive guy, don't get me wrong, but I just have trouble connecting with him. I tried connecting with Jenn but that hasn't gone so well. The other people on the tribe, meh.

As for the Blue Collar tribe, if I was into tattoos I could consider them to be pretty attractive too. And yeah they have character flaws and seem to be real people, but again they're one-dimensional (with the exception of Dan). They seem to cast a lot of law enforcement/firefighters and less software engineers and I wish they would showcase some other professions, you know? Hey, CBS, did you see my video? I develop software for a living!  ;D

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Re: Survivor
« Reply #278 on: March 18, 2015, 10:11:54 pm »
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NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

You make me like him and then you vote him out!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

This is so sad  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #279 on: March 19, 2015, 09:27:12 am »
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Great double episode! I think Max, as a student of the game, took the old saying "you can't hide who you really are in survivor" a little too far and didn't even try to blend in.

Little gestures like orchestrating a birthday party go a long way in survivor. Despite Will knowing he is in the bottom in the NC 4, I don't doubt they'll stay together after the merge. If they can get together with some WC through Carolyn, we could see a lot of BC boots after the merge. Jenn is taking the narrator role, which is nice. Kelly is insanely tough, holy hell she stayed calm despite not seeing anything and bleeding all over. She is going to go far in the game, I'm sure. It's amazing how well she is staying under the radar.

Interested to see where the Joaquin/Rodney friendship develops. Fun times ahead! I really love this casting. I find Sierra annoying, and Hali is kind of a dud, but everyone else seems like a great character. Lots of powerful players left too, really hard to say how things will work out after the merge. The three tribe format seems pretty great.

edit: I loved Carolyn's flip. Tyler is still the only person who knows about her idol, right? She is going to be in a great position come the merge.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #280 on: March 19, 2015, 10:07:52 am »
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Great double episode! I think Max, as a student of the game, took the old saying "you can't hide who you really are in survivor" a little too far and didn't even try to blend in.

Yeah this is sadly true. Here's a thought I had, though, along these same lines. When it came down to it, Jenn took the road of making fun of the hardcore fans of the show even though she claims to be a fan herself.

I wonder how many Geminis have won?
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« Reply #281 on: March 19, 2015, 11:13:40 am »
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Great double episode! I think Max, as a student of the game, took the old saying "you can't hide who you really are in survivor" a little too far and didn't even try to blend in.

Yeah this is sadly true. Here's a thought I had, though, along these same lines. When it came down to it, Jenn took the road of making fun of the hardcore fans of the show even though she claims to be a fan herself.

I wonder how many Geminis have won?
Being a fan doesn't have to mean obnoxiously bringing up weird little facts about the game all time. I don't think it was being a survivor fan that rubbed people the wrong way about Max (and Shirin).

I'm sort of sad no one seems to like Shirin. I find her quirkiness endearing, even if she is getting a horrible edit.
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« Reply #282 on: March 19, 2015, 11:15:54 am »
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Being a fan doesn't have to mean obnoxiously bringing up weird little facts about the game all time.

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« Reply #283 on: March 19, 2015, 12:03:14 pm »
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Once again I agree with you, Eevee! Except that I don't think Hali is a dud, she seems interesting but just doesn't get tons of screen time. I didn't love the moment about the feet in the water pot, but I don't really think that was about feet in a water pot. She also has this super unique way of lounging on sand for confessionals.

I don't even think Shirin is getting that bad of an edit; the worst thing anyone can say about her is that she talks too much which appears demonstrably true. I think she seems really fun to be around, just not 24/7.

I'm really happy that no former tribe is dominating or getting decimated. White collar appears to be in the weakest position, but only because Shirin is in the weakest position.

I am unhappy that the new tribes are super unbalanced, which is only exacerbated by the loss of Max. The only sane prediction is total steamrolling by the red tribe unless something gets shaken up. Which is a shame because their tribal dynamics seem like they'd make for very juicy tribals.
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #284 on: March 19, 2015, 02:43:19 pm »
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A few other thoughts about this episode.

The challenge with the "maze of holes" was such a cool idea! I was really thrilled to see that happen. I also liked that there were reward-only challenges, but they messed with me on the second one. There were clearly three slingshots there and you knew the tribe switch-up was coming. I thought for a moment that there would still be three tribes, which would have been amazing, but then they took away one of the slingshots after the switch-up and I was sad.

And finally, I think the editors are doing something really different this season -- they set up Rodney for a big fall and he didn't get one. They set up Jenn for a big fall two episodes ago and she didn't get one. They set it up so Shirin looked like a sure boot this time and she wasn't. Now I'm questioning a lot of things I normally think about the "winner's edit." They didn't have to show a lot of Rodney's scenes and they wouldn't have if he's going to win, but maybe he wins anyways! I've sort of dismissed a lot of people from winning this season but maybe they're trying to get us.

And finally, I really don't think Carolyn chose the best place to make her move. If she didn't like the other White Collars, she had options that would have moved her forward in the game (voting out Will was really good for her) but would have still kept around Max and Shirin, who actually still had loyalty to her -- it's actually the best kind of loyalty where you don't return the same loyalty if you can pull it off. She could have gotten together with Kelley and formed a bond there in the process and had a great position both now and when the tribes merge.

But she didn't want to keep people she felt were annoying around long enough to benefit from it, and now she's taken the good position she could have had and given it to the No Collars. I think she made a huge mistake.
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« Reply #285 on: March 19, 2015, 04:28:31 pm »
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I don't think the red tribe will have time to get decimated, I would expect them to merge at 10. It will be interesting to see if Carolyn "flips back" and keeps Shirin now that she has nowhere else to go. The reason I liked her split was that the WC tribe was clearly divided anyways, and this way she got to do it on her terms. She also didn't lose anyone's but Shirin's trust, and she has absolutely no allies left, even that could be remedied.

I thought the editing was kick-ass already last season. So many power players seemingly destined for greatness crashing and burning the very next episode. I think they are being extra deceptive this time around though, especially the blue collar makes have been portrayed in a way that's not necessarily accurate. It just seems they didn't get along at all, and now suddenly they are all buddies again. Boston Knob (I love these nicknames) is of course a total spazz, but Dan and especially Mike almost seemed like they might have half a clue after all in the last episode. Dan definitely not way smarter than he looks though..
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« Reply #286 on: March 21, 2015, 10:37:38 am »
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« Reply #287 on: March 26, 2015, 12:31:41 pm »
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You should catch up! It's a good season.

Fine episode again (this was the one where Joaquin went home, for reference to Robz). Some thoughts:

Jenn in a good position and a lot of fun to root for. Mike has really cleaned up after a slow start, I'd put them two as the two most likely to win right now. I guess we'll see how good Tyler is as a player now that he is potentially in trouble for the first time. I think he has still played well, but his position isn't looking too good now and he's been very invisible lately. I'm officially giving up hope on Joe, I like him a lot but he is just not a very good survivor player. He definitely should have offered a place in the NC alliance for Sierra, it's two girls roughly her age, Will who must seem fun even from afar and Joe who everyone ever must have a crush on, what's not to love for her? She even said she hates all her options multiple times, Joe should really have offered her a new one. It's never a promising sign when everyone is throwing your name around all episode and you only get one confessional, Joe seems to just be floating around hoping everything will turn out fine and amazingly, that's exactly what happened here. Dan had a strong showing in the challenge, he's hanging in there surprisingly well. Shirin really impressed me with how well she took Max being voted out. I really liked how she realized her situation is bad, but tried to think of ways of fixing it instead of feeling sorry for herself. Honestly, she seems like someone that would be fun to have in your life. I'm hoping she'll find another friend in the island before she gets voted out. Joaquin gained my respect for taking the blindside in stride. "This was my faith, and I'm going to take it with a smile on my face" is the best way to go out of survivor.

So, seems like it's merge time next episode. Are Mike, Dan, Kelly and Sierra and the no collars forming a power alliance? That would leave Shirin, Hot Rod (it's really so easy), Tyler and Carolyn in trouble. That would be really interesting, since the alliance would be 4 no collars and 4 blue collars with Will knowing he is on the bottom on one side and Sierra really hating one person on the other and generally not feeling very in with them. Seems like Mike was the one that got her to stay with them this episode and is generally keeping her in the fold, so it will be interesting to see how he does going forward. Again, this was a really strong episode for Mike.

The challenges have been fun this season, by the way.

I'm liking Jenn, Joe and Shirin the most. Tyler seems to have played well but needs to do something more than avoid making mistakes now. Carolyn's stock fell this episode. Kelly is still a potential winner, her position in the game seems good and I don't think they could have made her look any better in the fiasco with the challenge. I hate Sierra. I feel the swing votes are often people I most dislike, I guess that's because they are often people who feel wronged by their alliance and act really whiny about it. Hali is still boring to me, but I don't actively dislike her. It's hard to say what Will will do, he definitely has the cards to getting far but needs to play them well. He won't get to the end ever by just riding the NC alliance, but it really gives him room to maneuver. I'm holding out hope he won't just stay idle until he is in the bottom and voted out, but we'll see.

It could also be that NC and BC don't go together, but I think the NC 4 will be in the majority no matter what (which is fine by me, I like them). The other option I see possible is NC staying with Carolyn, who would bring in Tyler and maybe Shirin (?), which would leave Rodney, Mike, Sierra, Dan and Kelly (later, as I think the bonds she's formed with the no collar will have some value) in trouble.

Either way, Jenn is looking good, so officially calling her to win now! The NC4 seems to be in a power position, but Hali and Joe seem incapable of making any moves, and while Will seems capable of moves, it's still highly questionable if he's capable of good moves. If they go with the WC, I see Tyler and Carolyn as her biggest competition, and if they go with BC, I see Mike and Kelly as the 2nd and 3rd most likely winners.

Looking forward to Rodney's reaction to the boot next week. It's going to be great tv.
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« Reply #288 on: March 26, 2015, 01:28:29 pm »
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My fiancee and I were watching this episode together, and we were pretty sure Joe was going home as TC started, but then she noticed something (that went completely over my head). When Sierra was talking at TC about her situation and Mike gave her that awkward from-behind-hug, Sierra's expression was genuine, like she truly enjoyed it. This highlights a social game Mike seems to have that we're led to believe he doesn't, or at least that he didn't have for the first 9 days of the game. Could this be a story of personal growth for him that we'll see him reference at a FTC as a reason why he should win?

They showed a lot of the Blue Collar tribe early on when they really didn't have to, I'm pretty suspicious that one of them is going to win the game, which is unfortunate because the only one of them that I really like is Dan and there's just no way for him.

I'm really scared Rodney is going to win. I really hope he doesn't, but I just feel like it's going to happen. Please don't let that happen.
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« Reply #289 on: March 26, 2015, 01:40:00 pm »
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Rodney can't win. No way no how.
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« Reply #290 on: March 31, 2015, 05:20:00 am »
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I've changed my mind!

In the latest episode, Sierra referring to Joaquin and Tyler as "the most trustworthy people around here", and that struck to me as weird. Joaquin certainly seemed like everything but trustworthy from the edit we got, starting with how he handled the decision in episode 1. Now, in his RHAP exit interview, Joaquin had nothing but highest praise to say about Tyler, he repeated how he loves the kid over and over and said he is probably the best person and purest soul he's ever met. Huh. I'm piecing together that it was Tyler's good guy qualities that also impressed Sierra, who then sort of projected them to Joaquin by association because he was fun to be around?

I think Mike's decision to vote Joaquin out over Joe is going to end up coming back to haunt him. Carolyn and Tyler were close with Joaquin, and Joe is an obvious threat from the opposing alliance, so I don't see Carolyn and Tyler being too happy with what happened. I think the BC alliance is in shambles. Sierra hates Dan and Rodney, who in turn is just wicked mad at all of them. The three of Kelly, Dan and Mike is solid, but the prospect of a solid five must seem threatening to everyone else in the game and the group is much less unified than it appears. If someone sees the block of five as a threat and goes looking for a crack, they don't exactly have to dig deep to find a huge canyon.

I think we'll have an unpredictable post-merge, but I wouldn't count out Tyler yet, and I think the great edit Mike has been getting is setting him up for a downfall. Dan should be safe for a while because he is the polar opposite of threatening, and Kelly has connections everywhere which might make the people who decide things want to keep her as a potential future number. That leaves Mike, who is also the head chief of the alliance and a big dude (who has sucked in challenges, but still), as the person to target for everyone else in the game. I don't necessarily credit the NC's with enough strategic acumen to see this, but I think Tyler and Carolyn will bring enough people, whoever they are, together to take Mike down. And soon.
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« Reply #291 on: April 09, 2015, 11:10:57 am »
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Omg this season is amazing. Both post-merge episodes have been incredible!
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Re: Survivor
« Reply #292 on: April 09, 2015, 12:28:54 pm »
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Being a fan doesn't have to mean obnoxiously bringing up weird little facts about the game all time.



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« Reply #293 on: April 09, 2015, 01:14:52 pm »
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That Dan sure seems like a smart cookie.. At least you don't have to worry about him going through your mail and reading it since it seems he can't read.
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That Dan sure seems like a smart cookie.. At least you don't have to worry about him going through your mail and reading it since it seems he can't read.

This was such good tv. His pomposity is hilarious.
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« Reply #295 on: April 15, 2015, 11:34:32 am »
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Several points to make from the last few episodes, but I've either been lazy or forgotten to post about them.

Remember that challenge when Kelley got hit on the head and was bleeding everywhere? Well they bandaged her up for the rest of the challenge, which I agree with, but they didn't clean the blood off of her! Isn't that extremely dangrous? I remember feeling really uncomfortable watching that on TV, just feeling like I was going to catch something. Even when they went back to camp she still had some blood on her. I mean, wow.

So who's going to win this season? I can tell you lots of people who definitely aren't going to win, the ones I'm most sure of are Joe, Dan, and Carolyn. As for the other people, I think the people who have the strongest chances are:

Tyler: everybody trusts him, everybody likes him, nobody wants to vote him out.

Shirin: so this may seem like a bit of a stretch, but let's talk through some stuff about her. First, she's very similar to Sandra, people have been saying this all along since before the season started, her game has been very similar to Sandra's, which means she's very dangerous if she makes the merge. She made the merge. She's dangerous. She has a very good chance of being taken to the finals, because other people think she's not a threat to get jury votes, just like Sandra.

But you say she's been edited poorly? You say nobody actually likes her? Well first of all Sandra never had a glowing edit so that. But a few episodes ago after Max got voted out, Shirin had this confessional where she was very well-spoken and intelligent, she said that her game wasn't working for her because people didn't like her, so she needed to bond with these people and form friendships to get herself further. Well she certainly got on the No-Collar-Alliance's good side as it seems, so there's one success. She's in a great position now because Joe is a bigger threat than her and Jenn might just blow up next week (I have more on that later), so as the last member of that alliance who is standing, she has a great chance to crack the opposing alliance and have people on the jury who like her. Then there was this week, with her talk in the water with Dan. Listen to the music during that entire scene. Dan is heavily edited to look like a jerk and Shirin has totally stolen Rodney's 3Cs (cool, calm, and collective) and looked very intelligent. Why would they set that up without some kind of payoff? We now want Shirin to get the best of Dan, so my theory is that Dan is the real F3 goat and Shirin beats him in front of a jury. It would be a personal growth story arc for Shirin and I think she has a real shot at it.

Rodney: Yeah yeah I still haven't counted out the possibility that the editors are just messing with us and Rodney wins. I hope I'm wrong, and it will just make things so much more satisfying when he gets voted out :-)

So the previews for next episode, "Jenn might throw in the towel." I've been tough on Jenn all season, saying she's a fan but I don't really think she is. This preview alone is enough to show me I was right about her. No fan would ever get caught being out there and being like that, I don't know if she's talking about quitting but hopefully this episode will confirm that I was right about her. I don't get to be right very often so I'll be enjoying that :-)

And finally, I don't know how people feel about cast "spoilers" for future seasons, but there was some news just recently released on that front. Does anyone object to talking about that in this thread?
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« Reply #296 on: April 24, 2015, 01:50:57 am »
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I think I've seen the same stuff, but I think casting spoilers are fair game and an interesting topic. Maybe use spoiler tags?


Taking it back, Rodney absolutely can win. And I'm sort of pulling for it..
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« Reply #297 on: April 24, 2015, 09:10:57 am »
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Taking it back, Rodney absolutely can win. And I'm sort of pulling for it..

After this last episode I'm a little more freaked out about the possibility of a Rodney win. Both myself and my fiancee will be highly disappointed if that happens.

Shirin, though. If she survives next week I think she has a real shot at winning. Once Mike gets on the jury, that will be 4 people on the jury that really like her, and nobody left in the game even realizes that -- they could try to take her to the end as a goat and then just get crushed. At this point, I'm rooting for that to happen.
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« Reply #298 on: April 24, 2015, 10:12:56 am »
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I definitely agree about Shirin, both about the fact that she could win and about how she wouldn't be a bad winner.

Rodney was definitely the big winner in the last episode.
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« Reply #299 on: May 07, 2015, 07:36:50 am »
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Carolyn and Mike are overwhelming favorites to win out the rest of the immunities at this point, right? Which would make one of them a very likely winner. Mike is obviously winning in all scenarios if he gets there, but surviving any vote where he isn't immune seems like such an uphill battle. Carolyn's position hinges largely on how mad Rodney is at her, I guess we'll find out next week. Dan's double vote might not even be a factor, ever? It would be very good against split votes or for a faction with an idol, but not so much in the hands of a goat in the majority alliance.
 
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Rodney is actually crazy, and Dan celebrating early is now one of my favorite motifs of the season. I was torn between wanting to see Tyler succeed and wanting people to recognize him as a threat and take him out. At this point, I am liking Mike and Carolyn, so would be pleased with either of them winning.

Can we talk about Will and Shirin? I've been annoyed with Will since he stayed instead of Nina, and then even more annoyed when he turned on the no collars without any fanfare.

I thought he was somewhat redeemed when he shared his food but that turned around almost immediately when he attacked Shirin. We didn't see her accusing him of withholding, but even if she did...That's the game. We had seen several examples of it already this very season! His reaction I thought was so disgusting, vile even. He's the ultimate goat now, but Dan and others hardly even reacted to Will. Dan even said she had it coming. Really???
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« Reply #301 on: May 07, 2015, 12:46:05 pm »
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Yeah, what Will did was disgusting. I can't believe he wouldn't apologize, even afterwards. Someone really should have stood up, said "Fuck you Will", led Shirin away from the situation and said "If anyone else feels like what Will is doing is vile, and just wrong, you are welcome to follow us". Alas. It's tricky for anyone not named Will though, as much as it's obvious you don't treat anyone the way he did, the others are there trying to win the game and rocking the boat by siding with someone (generally disliked) from outside the alliance is, while what you absolutely should do in real life, also potentially bad and scary as a game move. It's actually somewhat sad that someone like Will has a good shot at 100k for 2nd/3rd place finish, while people like Joe get targeted early and have the experience they love cut short because they are threatening.

About Shirin, I liked her when she was on the show, but after seeing her in Ponderosa (in her own video and in Tyler's which she basically hijacked) I'm starting to think she might have gotten a very favorable edit. Tyler actually said to her "Hey, this is kind of my moment... can we not talk about you for a minute?" which was pretty amusing.

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« Reply #302 on: May 08, 2015, 09:58:06 pm »
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Wow, now that Tyler is gone I really don't like anyone who is left. Sad. I guess I'll be happy if Rodney doesn't win. I was really disappointed to see Tyler voting for Mike, he should have known he was in trouble enough to throw his vote at Dan at the very least.

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« Reply #303 on: May 09, 2015, 01:07:53 am »
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I do!! He was playing hard and wanted it a lot. Makes for great TV.
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« Reply #304 on: May 10, 2015, 12:25:42 pm »
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I'm finally all caught up with the current season of Survivor, so time for opinions. I loved Mike's move to save Shireen (spell check), making him more preferable to me if he makes it to the final four. Right of the bat, I wanted Rodney gone. His "give no respect" is, bluntly put, a discredidation (bring out the spell check) to not just humans, but also to the ideas of liberty and equality. How he's made it this far, I don't know. Will and Shireen, man, I am so biased on this. Will probably shouldn't have come this far in the first place. Sure, it was a nice gesture for him to give up his personal stash of food, but that doesn't mean he is hiding any. I believe Shireen had a right to ask if Will left some particulars out, then again, a whole verbal fight shouldn't have ensued. Did I say fight? Strike that. First quarter was a fight, rest of the talk was a verbal bullying. I believe Will was in most of the wrong, and Shireen shouldn't have been the abusee. Can't wait to see what happens next time on... Survivor!
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« Reply #305 on: May 14, 2015, 01:33:41 pm »
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NOT LOOKING NOT LOOKING NOT LOOKING NOT LOOKING

I'm 25 minutes into the first episode. Wow the guys are all idiots.
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« Reply #306 on: May 14, 2015, 01:41:30 pm »
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Edit: It just got worse when the fat guy said stuff.
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« Reply #307 on: May 21, 2015, 09:21:56 am »
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So not the most exciting finish. I'm happy Mike won though.

Cast for 31 looks fun, I'm unhappy Woo made it over someone like Shane or Troyzan though.

Carolyn had a really really bad night, wowzers.
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« Reply #308 on: May 21, 2015, 11:42:09 am »
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Rodney didn't win, so I'm about as happy as I can be with this finale. My fiancee and I had a little celebration when he was eliminated ;D

I'm actually really happy about the cast for next season. There were three things I really wanted to happen: Andrew Savage and Stephen Fishbach are in, and Brad Culpepper is not. All of these things happened so I'm really happy. I would have liked to have seen Shane Powers and Stephanie in there, and I was sad when they didn't get picked, but other than that I'm really happy about it. Spencer <3 <3 <3 is there, Kelly W. is there, Kimmi is there. I have so many people to root for!

I suppose I'm pickier about the men than the women, because in my mind each male cast on the show is taking MY spot :P I'm really hoping that Culpepper not being picked signals to the CBS cast that next time they feel like casting a celebrity on the show, which is an awful idea by itself, that they realize that nobody wants to see that and instead they cast me.

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« Reply #309 on: May 21, 2015, 01:23:57 pm »
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Would people in here have interest for doing some sort of a draft for the winner of S31? Or even some sort of a point system for whoever predicts who does and doesn't do well best. We could play for the title of the survivor expert of f.ds or something!
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« Reply #310 on: May 21, 2015, 02:01:54 pm »
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STILL NOT READING STILL NOT READING STILL NOT READING

I am like half way thru the season--I just saw Hali booted. That was a huge bummer; I can't ever recall a previous season where I was so decisively rooting for one tribe/alliance (NC) over another (BC). The NC alliance has the amazing, hilarious, brilliant Jenn; the lovable, attractive, Constitution-affirming Hali; entertaining superfan Shrin; and walking human perfection Joe. The Blue Collar alliance has Dan, a caricature of a sneering hateful government employee; Rodney, who is closing in on Worst 5 people on Survivor ever (with Naonka, Colton, and Brandon Hantz); whiny, wishy-washy Sierra; and Mike, who I guess is fine (and probably winning this game, he seems like he's getting the victory edit), but just not my fav.
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« Reply #311 on: May 21, 2015, 02:22:44 pm »
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Would people in here have interest for doing some sort of a draft for the winner of S31? Or even some sort of a point system for whoever predicts who does and doesn't do well best. We could play for the title of the survivor expert of f.ds or something!

I did a Fantasy League a few years ago. I'd be up for doing this with some people here, to see who can get the highest score among us.
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« Reply #312 on: May 25, 2015, 11:00:08 am »
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« Reply #313 on: May 25, 2015, 02:21:47 pm »
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Finally watched the finale last night. I actually liked Carolyn and wished to the stars and back that she would have gotten more votes than terrible, terrible Will. Mike was the deserving winner, and although he got a favorable edit, there were moments (Shirin in Final Tribal; Sierra earlier in the game) that revealed him as a really solid person. Not perfect (that moment at the auction was a very low point), but a solid person and great competitor who deserves the title.

Next season I am just ridiculously excited about. I get half my beloved brain tribe back, and perfect Joe? Stop right there, it's already a great season. But then we get Kelly W AND Kelley W, Shirin, Savage, Keith, Vytas, Terry, and Ciera too?? It's too much. The only other person I really hoped we'd see back was Shane, but who knows if he would be half as entertaining if he wasn't coming off of a nicotine addiction.
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« Reply #314 on: May 25, 2015, 02:24:00 pm »
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I would definitely participate in a fantasy game. Although I'm unlikely to ever be able to discuss the results the day of because I have another important commitment on Wednesday nights now. :'(
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« Reply #315 on: May 25, 2015, 02:29:06 pm »
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He said he would have quit cold turkey this time as well.  :'( It's a travesty he didn't get to play again.

Shane did an interview with Rob C the day after the finale of S30 (and the cast announcement for 31). Highly recommend for everyone, Shane is amazing and he shares some fun insight on the coming season as well. http://robhasawebsite.com/the-survivor-31-second-chances-funeral-of-shane-powers/

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« Reply #316 on: June 14, 2015, 02:22:02 pm »
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I finished the season!

I was fine with Mike winning, he played well, and is a good guy. Someone to root for. I think, arguably, Carolyn played a stronger game... slightly weaker in challenges but still pretty good, and then just much stronger in terms of the social game, and especially strategically. She was deemed the biggest non-Mike threat at the Dan vote, and then yet somehow survived when vulnerable at the Sierra and Rodney votes. Pretty impressive.

Overall, I would say this was just an average season of Survivor. It was interesting, and I liked that most of the players seemed interested in strategy and game play (especially when compared to last season, when everyone was nice but boring), but man, a lot of these people were just loathsome human beings. I thought Rodney was bad, but Will was even worse, and I think, ultimately, he was topped by Dan, who is just an utter glowering sociopathic misogynist. I pray to the Survivor gods that they never bring him back.

And I'm super excited about next season! Only a couple choices--Kimmi and Kelley Wentworth--stood out to me as particularly bad. On the whole, I think it's actually a much stronger cast than Fans vs. Favorites II. Super excited to see Vytas again, PG Law, Terry... and of course, walking human perfection Joe. I feel the way about Joe that Adam feels about Spencer.
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« Reply #317 on: June 14, 2015, 05:33:36 pm »
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I'm a gigantic Joe fanboy, but I don't think he played particularly well his first time around. I can't really imagine him doing well.

A simple draft for the winner of next season would be very easy to do via the forum if we could get 4 or 5 people (since there are 20 players).
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« Reply #318 on: June 14, 2015, 06:59:32 pm »
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I love both Spencer and Joe just so much. It's my fantasy that they'll kiss work together.
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« Reply #319 on: September 24, 2015, 03:56:58 pm »
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Season premiere of S31 was last night! SQUEEEEE!!!!!

I was really happy with pretty much all of the cast this season. Only a few people that I actively dislike and only a few more that I'm mostly apathetic about. This season I'm rooting for Spencer and Savage, and I also want to see Shirin and Fishbach do well.

I was really happy to see Vytas voted out first, especially because Shirin totally pegged him and struck very effectively. I'm also happy to see that tribe lose because all of the people I dislike are there: Vytas, Peih-Gee, Kelley Wentworth (why did they put two Kelly/Kelley W people on the same tribe? It's going to be really difficult to talk about them).

A big confusion I had surrounded Jeff. He seemed to be playing really poorly at Tribal Council, just talking way too much and overplaying his hand on day 3. I really don't see him going far and the whole time I was wondering why on earth he would talk as much as he did. I really don't see him making it much past the merge. But then I heard that he went into the game with a pre-game alliance with Terry, Kelly Wigglesworth, and maybe some other people, and he decided to turn on them. So at least that explains why he was saying a lot of the things he said, but still that doesn't make it a good idea.

They seemed to focus a lot on Woo for some reason. Is that because he wins? I'd be really disappointed if he won.

Anyways, I'm really excited to see where this one goes. When was the last time there was no tribe switch? S23? It's been a minute. It would be really refreshing to not see one this time, though I'd be shocked if that happened. I wonder how many people out there will be genuinely shocked when the tribes switch? :P
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« Reply #320 on: September 30, 2015, 03:02:11 pm »
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I just watched it. Very entertaining episode, hugely promising cast. This has the makings of a great season.

I LOVED the twist with the Hidden Immunity Idol. That was a brilliant idea. And watching Wentworth try to decide to go for it, go for it, and get away with it, was super suspenseful and masterfully edited. I was very impressed with her, actually. I could totally see her doing well. She fits the mold of returning people who do well in subsequent seasons, too... think Amber, Parvati, etc.

I liked Vytas a lot last time. It's clear, though, that he was doing a terrible job here, and was just alienating all the women. I do think booting him was a self-crippling move for that team, though. They were already physically outmatched, and this makes the difference between the two teams really stark. I also give all the Vytas voters 5 more minutes before they regret not extinguishing Abi when they had the chance. She is, frankly, the worst.

Surprised by how excited I was to see all the people from Tony's season back--even Spencer and Woo, people I really didn't care for. Tasha is pretty great. Kass... ah, Kass is so great. I mean, no, she's terrible, but what a great Survivor character. Just someone who quietly wants to ruin everything, just because she can and thinks she's entitled.

Jeremy's decision to band together all the strong guys is fairly smart, especially after last season's "execute the strong" unfolded week after week until no one capable of defeating Mike was left in the second half of the game. Of course that kind of alliance is vulnerable to getting picked off by the girls + 1 weaker or marginalized guy (hey, Fishbach!).

Not sure what to make of Varner. He's playing a little too loudly, I think, to do well. Spencer and Shirin seem well-placed to run that tribe behind the scenes, especially if they work together.

Joe, still walking human perfection (Savage's daughters speak for everyone), still has no way to win the game, short of never losing a challenge. But if anyone could do it, it's him.
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« Reply #321 on: October 08, 2015, 10:15:11 am »
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It's been a fun season, as expected! It's really hard to say who is doing well and who isn't. Jeremy and Kelly Wentworth seem to be in good positions, maybe?

Woo being blindsided again and again is hilarious. Living with Abi must be really miserable.

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« Reply #322 on: October 14, 2015, 09:11:15 am »
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SQUEEEEEE!!!!!!

They used my tribe switch idea from FS2! This not only means that it was a good idea but it also means that they followed FS2 really closely and they're definitely going to cast me! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think Savage made a mistake here -- they were in a great spot and could have voted out Abi, but Savage decided to go to PG with that and align with Abi instead. I feel like his alliance with PG and Woo would have been better for them than Jeff and Abi. We'll see if it ends up biting him, I think it will.
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« Reply #323 on: October 14, 2015, 09:30:32 am »
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PG was tight with Woo, and with Jeff. What makes you think they wouldn't have voted Savage/Tasha out next week? Whereas Woo and Abi obviously aren't getting along, and now they are in all likelihood ousting Jeff next, unless Abi goes crazy enough to turn it on herself of course (a possibility that shouldn't be dismissed of course).
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« Reply #324 on: October 14, 2015, 09:34:37 am »
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I mean, you could be right. We aren't seeing the whole story, but that's my read. It's based on the fact that this whole thing started with people wanting to vote out Jeff in the first place, so I assume he would be next and it would be down to PG/Woo and Savage/Tasha. I think that alliances like that, with two tight pairs, tend to be pretty loyal to each other since there's even footing there -- you know if one person wants to make a move, two people have to hide it from you. It's also a chance to be in an alliance without people being threatened by the fact that you are part of a tight pair, which is rare in Survivor.

But we'll see how it works out. Abi seems to discard her former "alliance" every week in favor of something new and chaotic, so let's see what she comes up with this week.
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« Reply #325 on: October 14, 2015, 01:34:06 pm »
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I first thought keeping Abi and booting PG was a mistake for Savage/Tasha, but the more I think about it, the more confident I am it was smart. I think getting rid of Abi could very well have resulted in a return to the status quo: Woo/PG/Varner vs. Tasha/Savage. Booting PG essentially allowed them to create a future victim in Woo, or POSSIBLY Abi next time. That's the only way for them to survive... they can't win challenges.

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« Reply #326 on: October 22, 2015, 11:10:33 am »
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I did a draft with a friend before yesterdays episode, the rules were

not voted out = 1p
making final 3 = 3p
winning = 6p

winning individual immunity 1p

finding idol 2p
using idol when would be eliminated 2p
eliminated not using the idol -2p

and we went ABBAABBAABBAABBA, he picked first.

Whose side do you like, any commets or criticisms for the picks? I think he might have gotten the better team, although I can't pinpoint where I went wrong. My team will be in a world of hurt in immunities, which is certainly not optimal for this setup.

Friend: jeremy, terry, savage, joe, ciera, monica, kimmi, kelly wiggle

Me: kelly wentworth, spencer, tasha, fishback, kass, keith, abi, woo

Just watched the episode, it was very good! Blindsides are always fun.
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« Reply #327 on: October 22, 2015, 11:32:14 am »
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I did a draft with a friend before yesterdays episode, the rules were

not voted out = 1p
making final 3 = 3p
winning = 6p

winning individual immunity 1p

finding idol 2p
using idol when would be eliminated 2p
eliminated not using the idol -2p

and we went ABBAABBAABBAABBA, he picked first.

Whose side do you like, any commets or criticisms for the picks? I think he might have gotten the better team, although I can't pinpoint where I went wrong. My team will be in a world of hurt in immunities, which is certainly not optimal for this setup.

Friend: jeremy, terry, savage, joe, ciera, monica, kimmi, kelly wiggle

Me: kelly wentworth, spencer, tasha, fishback, kass, keith, abi, woo

Just watched the episode, it was very good! Blindsides are always fun.

I think you might actually have the better team. You have more of the people I expect to go far, and even win the game. I think Kass and Kelley Wentworth are probably the most likely winners--they are non-threatening, well-liked members of a strong, majority alliance, and have gotten good screen-time and confessionals (Ciera doesn't have this last key ingredient). Kelley even has a secret idol. Keith is likewise likely to go far. Spencer and Tasha have  gotten vastly disproportionate screen time, which suggests to me they may stick around (Tasha might be rejoining that majority alliance post-merge, even).

Your biggest problem is that you are going to lose individual immunity challenges, and Abi and Woo are probably the next most likely people to depart. The sooner the merge, the better for you.
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« Reply #328 on: October 22, 2015, 02:20:55 pm »
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Oh man, this episode made me so happy. No tribe switch, meaning that they're going to stick with three tribes for a bit longer. I really really want them to go into a merge with 3 tribes. Angkor didn't lose, so less risk of them just dying before a merge happens.

And Monica, I never liked her in her first season, I didn't like that they brought her back, and I've always thought she was overrated. Then to see her get blindsided for saying some things that just seemed really awful. It was so satisfying. Like, you could kind of see it coming, but I didn't care, I just knew it was going to happen and I enjoyed every second of watching it ;D

But my favorite part of the episode was Spencer catching fish. Man, he's living my dream so hard out there. <3 <3 <3 Spencer <3 <3 <3

I think Jeremy is the only person on your friend's team with a real shot of winning the game, btw.
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« Reply #330 on: March 16, 2016, 11:23:17 pm »
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« Reply #331 on: April 04, 2016, 08:39:24 pm »
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Any body watching? I thought this season was bad, then it got good, now it's bad again.

And I mostly blame production. The incessant medical evacuations are TERRIBLE, and it's totally production's fault. It's detracting from the most interesting narratives. Like, take better care of the players, sheesh.
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« Reply #332 on: February 28, 2018, 04:04:17 pm »
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Is anybody still watching survivor? new season tonight!
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« Reply #333 on: February 28, 2018, 04:17:12 pm »
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Is anybody still watching survivor? new season tonight!

Yep!
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« Reply #334 on: March 01, 2018, 10:36:31 am »
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Is anybody still watching survivor? new season tonight!

Yep!

What did you think of the episode last night? I was skeptical of the ghost island theme at first but I liked it a lot more than I thought I would last night.  My favorite part of the episode was stephanie knowing exactly who jacob was and what she needed to say to him in order for him to spill all his secrets from ghost island hahaha
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« Reply #335 on: March 01, 2018, 11:57:50 am »
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Is anybody still watching survivor? new season tonight!

Yep!

What did you think of the episode last night? I was skeptical of the ghost island theme at first but I liked it a lot more than I thought I would last night.  My favorite part of the episode was stephanie knowing exactly who jacob was and what she needed to say to him in order for him to spill all his secrets from ghost island hahaha

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Yep! Loved the episode, I'm not a fan of the ghost island theme but I'm so happy to not have tribe themes I am willing to overlook the constant selling of "authentic survivor memorabilia". This coming from a guy who bought his wife buffs. It's like I like the show, I remember the moments I recognize the artifacts, I don't need them shoving it in my face though.

On to the players! Really like the group of people they got. It seems there is a good blend of "fans", "I'm here for the experience" and "I'm here to win" archetypes which I think makes for really interesting dynamics.

I found it very interesting that we had two players both make a fake idol, both tell people, and both not think through what that meant. It's literally the opposite of the golden idol rule (tell no one ever). Jakob absolutely got himself voted out, there was zero longevity to his plan as he can't actually play the idol. Even if the "plan" get them not to vote him one tribal, if he doesn't play it, he gets voted out next because he has an idol he's holding on to, if he does play it, jeff throws it in the fire and then he gets voted out next tribal. On the other tribe the construction manager did a great job finding an idol, but then goes off and makes a fake idol to show cross wearing pretty boy(i'll get their names eventually). What in the world does he think this is going to do. In effect the fake idol is identical to the real idol, the only difference is he can give pretty boy the fake idol to screw him over, but he would need a majority vote at that point anyway and the ruse is pointless. He literally threw away the advantage he gained by revealing to someone he knows wants him out he has an idol.

I absolutely could not stand gonzales and was so glad she went home. Another player that made a move not thinking through what it meant. I think it's likely she was going home anyway but if not, the "discussion" she had at tribal made zero sense. What is she hoping to check, who people are voting for? She's not pushing for a change of anything previously discussed so all she is doing is confirming anyone's paranoia that she is crazily playing too hard. I think its possible the 18yr old flipped his vote then and there when he leaned forward to say something to the two girls who previously discussed taking out gonzales but he said he wanted to keep the tribe strong.

Loved the first challenge, the whole decided what to do plan was a great mechanic. Losing the fishing gear with how little rice they have is absolutely horrible, I don't care at all about the flint and shelter building equipment, everyone should know how to build shelters by this point, so not losing the fishing gear was priority number one. The leader and puzzle solver got to talk while the runner was getting keys, my wife brought up a great point that the goal should be to look like you 100% know what you are doing. Let your leader know to tell you when there is about 20% sand left, you will say don't worry about it if you are making actual progress, you will say I've got this if you haven't made a ton of progress and you slide those pieces like a mad person. That lets your leader know to pull the plug before time runs out but the strategy is to make the other tribe pull first not to solve the puzzle.

Final thoughts are that I think player are slowly understanding "strong" is a pretty useless term nowadays. Challenges haven't been about physical strength in years because of the male bias that leads to. Things are either bodywieght/endurance strength which means it isn't beneficial to be on the obscene amounts of TRT those guys are on, or it is skill based strength and coordination. If you really want to make the tribe "strong" play a game of telephone and vote out the person who screws it up the most.

Spoilers for scenes from next week:
Sooooo sick of constant tribe swap/merges. It benefits stupid players too much and makes the eventual merge uneventful. I like it much better to force tribes to really rely on a majority alliance to keep you safe until a merge where the bottom 3, outside 3 final 7 and bottom 2, outside 2, final 5 mechanics can kick in.

Oh also I don't like the ghost island mechanic as it screws the voting purist in me over but at least it isn't redemption island. Obvious plan is to go, don't play the game unless you absolutely have to, tell your tribe there is a game and you chose not to play because the penalty for losing is losing a vote and advantages just get you voted out anyway.
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