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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2725 on: September 17, 2016, 05:11:34 pm »
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I didn't know about this. In my last Tavern Brawl pack, I got Lorewalker Cho, so I'm not expecting a new Legendary from 10 more packs. But you never know. I'm also missing epics.

Got Antonidas as my Legendary, which I already have. Seriously, I only have 2 of the 9 classic class Legendaries and they give me a duplicate. Too bad I could only buy the bundle once. I got a good number of golden cards in my packs though.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2726 on: September 17, 2016, 09:24:33 pm »
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I opened the packs for a friend and snagged 2 additional legendary cards for him on top of the initial. All I got for mine were a ton of golden cards.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2727 on: September 18, 2016, 01:04:15 am »
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I never paid for anything in Hearthstone before, but I got the Welcome pack partly because it seemed like a good deal and because there are several good classic commons that I still haven't gotten.
I got Prophet Velen as my automatic Legendary (not my first choice but not bad). Also got Onyxia from one of the packs.
Cards which were on my wanted list that I got:
1 Earthen Ring Farseer
1 Explosive Shot
2 Mirror Entities
1 Big Game Hunter
1 Stampeding Kodo
Other good-looking cards I got that I didn't have before:
1 Bloodsail Raider
1 Holy Fire
(and 2 golden commons)

Classic Commons that I want and still haven't gotten any of:
Scavenging Hyena
Harvest Golem
Sorcerer's Apprentice
Cold Blood
Dust Devil
Tuskar Totemic
Rampage

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2728 on: September 18, 2016, 01:22:03 am »
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Tuskar Totemic (the 3/2 that summons a random totem) is not in Classic. It's from The Grand Tournament expansion.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2729 on: September 18, 2016, 04:55:30 am »
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Also, you may want to rethink Dust Devil. The other cards in that list are either playable or fun. Dust Devil gets invalidated by Mage, Rogue, and Druid immediately unless you have a ton of setup. It doesn't help that Shaman has few ways to increase the health of their minions, besides neutral cards and Ancestral Spirit as a stretch.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2730 on: September 25, 2016, 03:18:16 pm »
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Just a heads up, for the play a friend quest, the questholder needs to be the one initiating for the quest to activate.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2731 on: September 29, 2016, 06:55:07 pm »
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Big balance changes ahoy!

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20303031#comments

They all seem appropriate. Good stuff.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2732 on: September 30, 2016, 04:09:02 am »
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Just a heads up, for the play a friend quest, the questholder needs to be the one initiating for the quest to activate.

You'll also be disappointed if the game ends by a resignation that it thinks is too early.  You can probably look up what that means, but the safe thing is to play the game out fully.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2733 on: September 30, 2016, 11:38:00 am »
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Big balance changes ahoy!

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20303031#comments

They all seem appropriate. Good stuff.

I like how the the Tuskaar Totemic nerf opens up the design space for more powerful Totems.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2734 on: September 30, 2016, 11:50:56 am »
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I support all the changes. I think it would be cool to see a buff some time like ever.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2735 on: September 30, 2016, 12:07:05 pm »
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The new Charge also opens up some design space. Magnataur Alpha for example sucks less now. Alextrasza shenanigans are also much less likely to get out of hand.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2736 on: September 30, 2016, 07:34:37 pm »
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What is the new charge?  I've seen the list of changes, but it doesn't say what the new effect of the charge spell is.

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2737 on: October 01, 2016, 04:40:49 am »
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What is the new charge?  I've seen the list of changes, but it doesn't say what the new effect of the charge spell is.

Costs 1, can only attack minions.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2738 on: October 01, 2016, 08:04:12 am »
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also it doesn't give the damage anymore.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2739 on: October 03, 2016, 05:19:27 am »
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What is the new charge?  I've seen the list of changes, but it doesn't say what the new effect of the charge spell is.

Costs 1, can only attack minions.
Can only attack minions *this turn*, isn't it?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2740 on: October 03, 2016, 08:47:11 am »
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What is the new charge?  I've seen the list of changes, but it doesn't say what the new effect of the charge spell is.

Costs 1, can only attack minions.
Can only attack minions *this turn*, isn't it?

Right, the Charge turn.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2741 on: October 27, 2016, 09:52:09 pm »
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Man, I didn't realize until playing this week's brawl that the quest changes make it really hard to complete quests in brawl or arena. Right now I have a quest to play murlocs, a quest to play deathrattle minions, and a quest to play overload cards. The overload cards I can kinda do by just picking Shaman, but the other two are so much harder to do than the old win-with-a-class quests.

I wonder if that's deliberate, to encourage people to play constructed, since that's the most lucrative mode for Blizzard. (They get nothing off of Brawl of course, and most likely are making far less off Arena than Play.)
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2742 on: October 27, 2016, 10:46:22 pm »
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Man, I didn't realize until playing this week's brawl that the quest changes make it really hard to complete quests in brawl or arena. Right now I have a quest to play murlocs, a quest to play deathrattle minions, and a quest to play overload cards. The overload cards I can kinda do by just picking Shaman, but the other two are so much harder to do than the old win-with-a-class quests.

I wonder if that's deliberate, to encourage people to play constructed, since that's the most lucrative mode for Blizzard. (They get nothing off of Brawl of course, and most likely are making far less off Arena than Play.)

Yeah it's a bit of a shame.

I had a quest to play 30 paladin cards for 40 gold and one to play 50 hunter cards for 60 gold. At least these "play x class cards" quests don't necessarily push you to play a crappy deck. Most classes have some workable deck filled with its class cards. Typical standard Hunter decks are almost all class cards at this point.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2743 on: October 27, 2016, 10:51:21 pm »
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As someone who plays only Arena and Brawl, this was my main worry. It does feel like an intended side effect. They could have made the quest numbers smaller to make them easier to achieve incidentally, but it feels like you have deliberately build decks to get these quests done fast.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2744 on: November 02, 2016, 07:37:23 pm »
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I'm just not a big fan of the new quests at all.  For me we've sort of reached the point where there are too many single-class quests that I can't reliably match up the quests I have with the three classes offered to me, or line it up to complete multiple quests at the same time.  I've found myself missing days of quests for basically the first time since beta, and I think the new quests have a lot to do with that.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2745 on: November 03, 2016, 12:50:31 am »
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Playing specific card keywords is not fun. Just put all enrage cards into a deck and play casual. I get it for new players its a thing to inspire new types of decks....but the cards aren't there! If there were good cards of each keyword, then maybe the quests would encourage diversity in decks. Right now they just encourage brain dead auto fill decks.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2746 on: November 03, 2016, 02:04:25 am »
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Playing specific card keywords is not fun. Just put all enrage cards into a deck and play casual. I get it for new players its a thing to inspire new types of decks....but the cards aren't there! If there were good cards of each keyword, then maybe the quests would encourage diversity in decks. Right now they just encourage brain dead auto fill decks.
I like some of the keyword ones, like 'beast' or 'divine shield'. I made a new paladin deck which focussed a little more on divine shield and it works pretty well. But I don't want to play an 'enrage' deck. It might help if we could switch out more than one quest per day.

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2747 on: November 03, 2016, 11:18:23 pm »
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Playing specific card keywords is not fun. Just put all enrage cards into a deck and play casual. I get it for new players its a thing to inspire new types of decks....but the cards aren't there! If there were good cards of each keyword, then maybe the quests would encourage diversity in decks. Right now they just encourage brain dead auto fill decks.
I like some of the keyword ones, like 'beast' or 'divine shield'. I made a new paladin deck which focussed a little more on divine shield and it works pretty well. But I don't want to play an 'enrage' deck. It might help if we could switch out more than one quest per day.

The "Battlecry" keyword is okay to satisfy if you can make a dragon deck. "Deathrattle" keyword can be hit reasonably with Hunter. "Divine Shield" is meh but okay to satisfy with Paladin if you use Argent Squire, Argent Horserider, and Shielded Minibot if in Wild.

Why do they make you play 30 murlocs but only 10 pirates? Both murloc decks and pirate decks run out of steam at around the same point. Murloc swarm a bit, but not from hand. This is not even getting into the 75 Murloc quest.

"Enrage" quest is dumb with so few strong Enrage minions, but Amani Berserker, Bloodhoof Brave, and Aberrant Berserker will get you there with only 10 Enrage cards needed to play.

"Inspire" quest where you must hero power 30 times for 50 gold? That's gotta be the worst quest right now.

Edit: I do feel like these quests are annoying for someone playing as long as I have overall, but more frustrating is that these quests were introduced with absolutely no warning to allow for collective player feedback beforehand.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2748 on: November 04, 2016, 07:59:25 am »
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There's no incentive to win with these quests. I just throw together decks that only have cards with the keyword and go to wild rank 24.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #2749 on: November 04, 2016, 12:03:05 pm »
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I downloaded Hearthstone, but have not played it so far.
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