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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #900 on: May 21, 2014, 08:29:38 pm »
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So two arena runs in a row with zero Epics available to me...lame.

I did just get my first Legendary from a pack!!!!

...but it's a King Krush...which is underwhelming to me.  Am I wrong?

And 3rd arena run in a row with nothing but commons and a few rares.  WTH?

As for King Krush, well of course I had to try to build a deck around him anyway.  I've found...he's an okay finisher, I guess.

Like, I find I'm just working to get my opponent to 8 health by turn 9 with no Taunts.  Or something similar with other minions alive.  So it's like a half-damage, half-control mostly beast deck that just bides it's time while doing average damage.

But then, it's like, in the 4 games I've drawn him, once the guy concedes on Turn 8 because he's going to lose anyway, once I get to use him to win, and the other two times he's just cut down in one turn after I'm forced to slam him into a Taunt.

He's like a fancy extra side dish, not a great main course.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #901 on: May 21, 2014, 08:40:28 pm »
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I just got freeze maged in arena!  My opponent literally never attacked me, but played the following cards:

Alexstrasza, 2x Ice Block, 2x Frost Nova, Pyroblast, Fireball, Blizzard.

Man am I glad that's not a good constructed deck anymore.. was not fun to play against.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #902 on: May 22, 2014, 01:30:18 am »
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Are those patch notes a joke? That doesn't seem like good documentation.  "resolved various bugs and issues".
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #903 on: May 22, 2014, 09:19:17 am »
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Are those patch notes a joke? That doesn't seem like good documentation.  "resolved various bugs and issues".

Still better than Goko.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #904 on: May 22, 2014, 10:42:32 am »
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As for King Krush, well of course I had to try to build a deck around him anyway.  I've found...he's an okay finisher, I guess.

Like, I find I'm just working to get my opponent to 8 health by turn 9 with no Taunts.  Or something similar with other minions alive.  So it's like a half-damage, half-control mostly beast deck that just bides it's time while doing average damage.

But then, it's like, in the 4 games I've drawn him, once the guy concedes on Turn 8 because he's going to lose anyway, once I get to use him to win, and the other two times he's just cut down in one turn after I'm forced to slam him into a Taunt.

He's like a fancy extra side dish, not a great main course.

If you're just using King Krush as an 8 damage burst, then you're not getting any real value out of him. He might as well be 8/1 instead of 8/8. You can do the same damage in 1 card and 6 mana instead of 9 with Leeroy+hero power. To really take advantage of King Krush, you need to use him more like Alexstrasza than Leeroy. Like instead of charging your opponent down to 0 health, make it more like 10 health leaving an 8/8 on the board which they have to find a way to deal with. This requires playing much slower than a typical Hunter deck, like a full-out control deck.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #905 on: May 22, 2014, 12:25:30 pm »
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This new shaman card is really, really, really good:

https://twitter.com/playhearthstone/status/469357019007180800
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #906 on: May 22, 2014, 12:39:27 pm »
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I like it.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #907 on: May 22, 2014, 12:57:28 pm »
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I think leeroys going to have to get nerfed. This card just gives yet another class a one turn kill with leeroy
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #908 on: May 22, 2014, 01:04:27 pm »
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This new shaman card is really, really, really good:

https://twitter.com/playhearthstone/status/469357019007180800

Ooo I like it. It's going to be especially nice with all the new deathrattle cards.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #909 on: May 22, 2014, 03:00:49 pm »
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I think leeroys going to have to get nerfed. This card just gives yet another class a one turn kill with leeroy
Shaman already had Leeroy OTKs.  Especially with, y'know, that other two mana shaman spell that allows Leeroy to attack again.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #910 on: May 22, 2014, 04:07:31 pm »
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I think leeroys going to have to get nerfed. This card just gives yet another class a one turn kill with leeroy

Shaman could already OTK with Leeroy+Rockbiter+Windfury (and whatever else). This is just 6 more damage for 2 mana, which is okay, but second Rockbiter or Flametongue can also add 6 damage for 1 or 2. It adds another option but doesn't create a OTK that wasn't there before.

The cooler combos are with deathrattle. Sylvanas+Rebirth is huge blowout potential.

It also doubles as a silence of battlecries/buffs, I think. Like Edwin should turn back into a 2/2, and AoW into a 5/5, etc.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #911 on: May 22, 2014, 06:54:42 pm »
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I think leeroys going to have to get nerfed. This card just gives yet another class a one turn kill with leeroy
Shaman already had Leeroy OTKs.  Especially with, y'know, that other two mana shaman spell that allows Leeroy to attack again.

I agree that it did, but this 2 mana spell is way better than that 2 mana spell.  Windfury is not a good card outside of finishing, while Rebirth has a lot of versatility with Deathrattle cards (Sylvanas in particular), and even uses outside of that.. like HME said, it's a silence sometimes.  Plus, redundancy isn't a bad thing, especially for a deck like Shaman which doesn't have lifetap like Warlock does or quite as much synergy with Auctioneer as rogue does.

Shaman could do it before, but this makes it a lot more consistent while adding a card that has uses outside of a OTK.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #912 on: May 22, 2014, 07:57:24 pm »
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http://arenamastery.com/C6wW

This may have been my worst draft ever.  Yes, it went 0-3 in very short order.  No, none of the games were even close.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #913 on: May 22, 2014, 10:12:36 pm »
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http://arenamastery.com/C6wW

This may have been my worst draft ever.  Yes, it went 0-3 in very short order.  No, none of the games were even close.

That deck looks fine to me.  Shrug.

I don't really like shiv that much, though.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #914 on: May 22, 2014, 11:22:04 pm »
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What do people think of the new Shaman card that'll be coming out?

"Destroy a minion and return it to life with full health." (images are beyond my abilities here)

I don't see it being amazing at first glance. I mean it's ok as a buff removal, but Hex is only 1 mana more and pretty much better. It could be good with divine shield, but otherwise it'll be an expensive Ancestral healing.

Oh yeah and Deathrattles will be good with it. but Still don't see it as amazing.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #915 on: May 22, 2014, 11:33:18 pm »
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What do people think of the new Shaman card that'll be coming out?

"Destroy a minion and return it to life with full health." (images are beyond my abilities here)

I don't see it being amazing at first glance. I mean it's ok as a buff removal, but Hex is only 1 mana more and pretty much better. It could be good with divine shield, but otherwise it'll be an expensive Ancestral healing.

Oh yeah and Deathrattles will be good with it. but Still don't see it as amazing.

Isn't it meant to be used on your own minions most of the time, usually un-silencing or bring it back to full strength after a few hits?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #916 on: May 22, 2014, 11:44:50 pm »
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What do people think of the new Shaman card that'll be coming out?

"Destroy a minion and return it to life with full health." (images are beyond my abilities here)

I don't see it being amazing at first glance. I mean it's ok as a buff removal, but Hex is only 1 mana more and pretty much better. It could be good with divine shield, but otherwise it'll be an expensive Ancestral healing.

Oh yeah and Deathrattles will be good with it. but Still don't see it as amazing.

Isn't it meant to be used on your own minions most of the time, usually un-silencing or bring it back to full strength after a few hits?

I saw some comments that it could be good with Sylvannas Windrunner, or Cairne. Ancestral Healing is better at healing.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #917 on: May 22, 2014, 11:49:27 pm »
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It's be cool if it could un-polymorph, but I'm assuming that doesn't work.

I think it's like, for a cheap example, my Senjin got silenced, so I destroy it and return it to life with Taunt again.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #918 on: May 23, 2014, 07:16:17 am »
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You can Leeroy, attack, kill him, attack again for 12 burst, among things you've already mentioned (Cairne adding huge value to already quite high value guy being probably the best).
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #919 on: May 23, 2014, 10:01:25 am »
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You can Leeroy, attack, kill him, attack again for 12 burst, among things you've already mentioned (Cairne adding huge value to already quite high value guy being probably the best).

If Leeroy dies you can't play this card on him. It's immediat. But yeah, Leeroy was also a good contender for this card. It seems pretty specialised though.

EDIT: Actually, with the new "Deathrattle play twice" Legendary, you could play on Cairne say and spawn 2 4/5's and still have Cairne.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #920 on: May 23, 2014, 10:52:16 am »
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Oh, btw I uninstalled then reinstalled battle.net and my friends list got wiped. So I added everyone again, you can just accept the request that you would be coolio.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #921 on: May 23, 2014, 07:53:02 pm »
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Mages continue to find ways to make me hate them.

Immune to fatal attacks?  What?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #922 on: May 23, 2014, 08:39:51 pm »
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Mages continue to find ways to make me hate them.

Immune to fatal attacks?  What?

Sure, but only once!  And it's an Epic...
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #923 on: May 23, 2014, 10:32:26 pm »
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Mages continue to find ways to make me hate them.

Immune to fatal attacks?  What?

Sure, but only once!  And it's an Epic...

It costs so little, cast it early and forget it.  By the time it's use, you've drawn your second.

I think rareness isn't an inhibitor to play.  Cards costs more (mana) to make them harder to "obtain" in the King's Court sense, I suppose.  But since all cards are "obtainable," it's epic doesn't really work as a card balance mechanic.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #924 on: May 23, 2014, 10:53:25 pm »
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Just did my first 12-0 arena run. The deck looked good but I wasn't expecting such a good run off it. (It's a Paladin deck with no Truesilver Champion or Consecration!) Instead, most games were total blow-outs, so obviously I'm not good at judging arena deck quality. Some of my opponents were pretty bad, and/or had bad decks, and/or had bad luck, so I'm not convinced that it's just the deck quality at work.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilder/paladin#19:1;23:1;29:1;33:1;74:2;84:1;140:1;142:2;157:1;174:1;191:1;213:2;250:1;283:2;305:1;326:1;350:2;392:1;463:1;475:1;509:1;557:1;627:1;648:2;

It's a two legendary deck. Amusingly, for the first legendary pick, I was offered choice of: Nat Pagle, Tinkmaster, Nozdormu. That's 3 of the 4 legendaries in Trump's "terrible" tier. Then in one game, I played Pagle and got three straight draws from him, and he eventually drew an Eviscerate. That's value.
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