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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #675 on: May 06, 2014, 03:09:20 pm »
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If you're playing for the long term, crafting Legendaries > crafting Epics > crafting Rares, just because it will save you dust when you accidentally open the rares you crafted.

In the short term, if you want a good deck now, craft any Epics you need first, then Rares on a case by case basis. There are some legendaries which are really nice and hard to find budget versions of (like Leeroy in any aggro deck, arguably Thalnos as well), but you don't need too many.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #676 on: May 06, 2014, 03:59:57 pm »
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It's very hard to determine what the best crafting strategy is, as it really depends on what you want. You know a legenedary is 2 epics or 4 rares, but without having played with the decks you plan on making, it's hard to say how much impact each of the cards will have. One of the worst feelings is saving up 1600 dust for some legendary, putting it in a deck, and immediately realizing you don't actually like the deck. If there's cards you might want 2 of, those are nice to craft, since you're not likely to open 2 of them that soon, and you can kind of see how the singleton copy works out.

I need like Sword of Justice, 2s Eaglehorn Bows, Aldor Peacekeeper/Imp Master, prolly some Young Priestesses as well.

I also need Leeroy, and probably Black Knight, and in long term - Rag/Ysera.

Of these cards, I think Leeroy and Aldor are the biggest overall impact cards in general. Leeroy can really open up making a lot of different decks that simply wouldn't work without him, and Aldor is just plain good like all the time.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #677 on: May 06, 2014, 04:03:52 pm »
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I got Eaglehorn bows for now, as I do want to play a Secret Based Hunter, and it loses a lot of its power without the bow.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #678 on: May 06, 2014, 05:13:53 pm »
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I got Eaglehorn bows for now, as I do want to play a Secret Based Hunter, and it loses a lot of its power without the bow.

Oh joy, another stupid hunter deck.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #679 on: May 06, 2014, 05:26:22 pm »
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I got Eaglehorn bows for now, as I do want to play a Secret Based Hunter, and it loses a lot of its power without the bow.

Oh joy, another stupid hunter deck.

I like my stupid hunter deck. :P It's very effective without needing Legendaries or Epics.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #680 on: May 06, 2014, 06:08:03 pm »
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I got Eaglehorn bows for now, as I do want to play a Secret Based Hunter, and it loses a lot of its power without the bow.

Oh joy, another stupid hunter deck.

I like my stupid hunter deck. :P It's very effective without needing Legendaries or Epics.

I think it's acceptable to play Hunter if you aren't playing it super aggro. I have a sort of control Hunter, and it's fun to play without being annoying.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #681 on: May 06, 2014, 06:16:44 pm »
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What annoys me about Hunters is that there aren't really any one true counters. If you drop lots of minions, you lose to Unleash and Explosive Trap. If you drop fewer, tougher minions, you lose to Deadly Shot and Misdirection. Hunter's Mark can get through big taunts, Kill Command gives lots of reach...

It's not that Hunters can't be beat, it's more that Hunters have a good answer to most counter-strategies, and you have to hope they don't draw the right counter cards. I suppose "no strong counters" is a requirement for most good decks though.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #682 on: May 06, 2014, 06:49:13 pm »
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^The counter to aggro Hunter is healing/taunt, and the counter to mid-range Hunter is combo decks, which rely on spells rather than minions. The devs have made it clear though that they want the game to focus on minion-based decks, which is why they nerfed freeze, and now they're nerfing UTH to 3 mana.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #683 on: May 06, 2014, 07:46:36 pm »
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^The counter to aggro Hunter is healing/taunt, and the counter to mid-range Hunter is combo decks, which rely on spells rather than minions. The devs have made it clear though that they want the game to focus on minion-based decks, which is why they nerfed freeze, and now they're nerfing UTH to 3 mana.

Why didn't I read this before I bought the Bows. Sigh.

I am playing midrange.

And how are things like Lock/Gaints or ControlWarrior minion-based? XD
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #684 on: May 06, 2014, 08:44:35 pm »
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Dear opponent I'm sorry..


For dropping 2 Molten Giants turn 8 in the Arena.

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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #685 on: May 06, 2014, 09:16:28 pm »
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Dear opponent I'm sorry..


For dropping 2 Molten Giants turn 8 in the Arena.

I had a Level 20 Mage drop 3 legendaries in 3 turns on me in Ranked.  The 8/8 one that can't attack, some super special Spell Damage one that gave him free Fireball cards every time he cast a spell, and some other one that was just to rub it in.

I had him down to 3 health and then couldn't finish him off in the face of that.  Had I drawn a Swipe or Starfire...

But really, those 3 legendaries and only level 20?????
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #686 on: May 06, 2014, 09:19:34 pm »
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Standard Mage stuff. :P

Prolly took a pause of HS.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #687 on: May 06, 2014, 09:27:02 pm »
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Are there any Pro Druids here?  I'm running a modified ramp up swamplock deck, but I'm really lacking the payoff cards at the top mana costs to finish the job.  I'm finding I get opponents down to single digit life in the first 6-8 turns, but then I'm not drawing enough/drawing big baddies to shut them down when my opponents invariably drop their own awesome.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #688 on: May 06, 2014, 10:39:06 pm »
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I got Eaglehorn bows for now, as I do want to play a Secret Based Hunter, and it loses a lot of its power without the bow.

Oh joy, another stupid hunter deck.

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Oh joy, another stupid Goons deck.

Play to win within the constraints of the game, right? Why wouldn't you play what wins?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #689 on: May 06, 2014, 11:19:26 pm »
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Are there any Pro Druids here?  I'm running a modified ramp up swamplock deck, but I'm really lacking the payoff cards at the top mana costs to finish the job.  I'm finding I get opponents down to single digit life in the first 6-8 turns, but then I'm not drawing enough/drawing big baddies to shut them down when my opponents invariably drop their own awesome.

Could you post your decklist?  I'll try and help if I can, with the caveat that I'm not quite pro!
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #690 on: May 07, 2014, 12:37:17 am »
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Are there any Pro Druids here?  I'm running a modified ramp up swamplock deck, but I'm really lacking the payoff cards at the top mana costs to finish the job.  I'm finding I get opponents down to single digit life in the first 6-8 turns, but then I'm not drawing enough/drawing big baddies to shut them down when my opponents invariably drop their own awesome.

I used to be a pro Druid, but then I took an arrow t... not, wait.

I used to be a pro Druid, but life caught up and tanking raids just wasn't in the cards any longer.

That likely doesn't help you with Hearthstone though.  Sorry.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #692 on: May 07, 2014, 04:28:05 am »
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Arena, Druid, First pick of the draft:

Force of Nature, Ancient of Lore, Ancient of War.

Thoughts?
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #693 on: May 07, 2014, 04:41:10 am »
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Arena, Druid, First pick of the draft:

Force of Nature, Ancient of Lore, Ancient of War.

Thoughts?

Force of Nature: Good to end the game with if aggressive, good to clear the enemy board in a more control deck. Nice, but I don't think it compares to the other 2

Ancient of Lore: What I'd pick. The 2 cards are ridiculously good, and although the healing isn't as good as a big taunt in arena, it can help if you really need it to.

Ancient of War: I like this card a lot, and it can stop a lot of boards in their tracks, but given that it's the first pack you'll be likely to see an Ironbark Protector if you need a big taunt.

Roughly, Force of Nature shares similar roles as Starfire or Starfall, and Ancient of War could be replaced by Ironbark, but nothing replaces Ancient of Lore.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #694 on: May 07, 2014, 10:20:48 am »
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Yeah, Ancient of Lore is one of Druid's best cards. One of my best arena runs was fueled by 2 Ancients of Lore.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #695 on: May 07, 2014, 10:33:49 am »
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And how are things like Lock/Gaints or ControlWarrior minion-based? XD
The "problem" isn't decks without minions, it's decks that force your opponent to play minionless. They think some portion of the customer base will be turned off by not getting to use minions.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #696 on: May 07, 2014, 11:52:42 am »
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And how are things like Lock/Gaints or ControlWarrior minion-based? XD
The "problem" isn't decks without minions, it's decks that force your opponent to play minionless. They think some portion of the customer base will be turned off by not getting to use minions.

Also, holding minions back to not play into UTH just feels bad in a way that holding back minions to not play into flame strike doesn't. At least that's my experience
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #697 on: May 07, 2014, 12:14:55 pm »
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After realizing my hunter deck is pretty strong against Murlocks I decided to embrace it by removing my Arcane Shot and replacing it with a Crab. (It's not a terrible addition as it's a Beast anyways).
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #698 on: May 07, 2014, 12:51:45 pm »
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After realizing my hunter deck is pretty strong against Murlocks I decided to embrace it by removing my Arcane Shot and replacing it with a Crab. (It's not a terrible addition as it's a Beast anyways).

nom nom nom. That should teach those filthy murlocks.
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Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« Reply #699 on: May 08, 2014, 03:55:11 am »
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Apparently people are still filtering their way up in ranked... I just played someone who dropped not one but three golden legendaries.  Followed by someone who played three non-golden legendaries.

Edit:  at Rank 19.

Im just got to rank 15 and I have 1 or 2 legendaries in all my decks.

o.O

I have a total of one legendary (class-specific) and like three epics so far.  I cannot imagine how anyone can have multiple golden legendaries without either spending a bunch of cash, or doing really, really well at arena... in which case they really shouldn't be near rank 20 should they?
Doing well in arena is so easy though.  Everyone in arena is bad

The arena is everyone, and you're also probably very good at drafting decks. So to you everyone is bad. To me it's 50/50. To Kirian maybe it's another ratio, but certainly getting 12 wins is not super easy because we would all have gotten it already.

Also, someone has to lose in the arena. Not everyone can win.

Some of you guys haven't done your first 12 win runs yet? 
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