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[Grujah]

I recently opened a pack with no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

[KingZog3]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

[markusin]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

I recently opened a pack as well. It had a golden Legendary, specifically Gruul. Don't know what to do with that.

[pingpongsam]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

I recently opened a pack as well. It had a golden Legendary, specifically Gruul. Don't know what to do with that.

If you don't want a Gruul then DE and get a legendary you do want. I have a Gruul from a pack I never use anymore. It was my first legendary ever so it did get some mileage before I got better ones.

[markusin]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

I recently opened a pack as well. It had a golden Legendary, specifically Gruul. Don't know what to do with that.

If you don't want a Gruul then DE and get a legendary you do want. I have a Gruul from a pack I never use anymore. It was my first legendary ever so it did get some mileage before I got better ones.

But the collector in me likes the shiny gold legendary.

[pingpongsam]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

I recently opened a pack as well. It had a golden Legendary, specifically Gruul. Don't know what to do with that.

If you don't want a Gruul then DE and get a legendary you do want. I have a Gruul from a pack I never use anymore. It was my first legendary ever so it did get some mileage before I got better ones.

But the collector in me likes the shiny gold legendary.

Yeah, I got a golden Cho once and actually considered keeping it because it was golden. I was talked sense into here at f.ds and now have a Ragnaros instead which continues to get mileage.

[markusin]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

I recently opened a pack as well. It had a golden Legendary, specifically Gruul. Don't know what to do with that.

If you don't want a Gruul then DE and get a legendary you do want. I have a Gruul from a pack I never use anymore. It was my first legendary ever so it did get some mileage before I got better ones.

But the collector in me likes the shiny gold legendary.

Yeah, I got a golden Cho once and actually considered keeping it because it was golden. I was talked sense into here at f.ds and now have a Ragnaros instead which continues to get mileage.

Yeah I think I'll do the same. Actually, I'll wait for Goblins vs. Gnomes to come out as the worth of each legendary will likely change once it does.

I actually think Milhouse Manastorm is more useful than Gruul. Gruul is pretty much a giant and not much deadlier when left alone. It comes too late to be useful. Milhouse at least has potential to heavily influence the flow of events of your opponent can't make use of the free spell turn.

[KingZog3]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

I recently opened a pack as well. It had a golden Legendary, specifically Gruul. Don't know what to do with that.

If you don't want a Gruul then DE and get a legendary you do want. I have a Gruul from a pack I never use anymore. It was my first legendary ever so it did get some mileage before I got better ones.

But the collector in me likes the shiny gold legendary.

Yeah, I got a golden Cho once and actually considered keeping it because it was golden. I was talked sense into here at f.ds and now have a Ragnaros instead which continues to get mileage.

Yeah I think I'll do the same. Actually, I'll wait for Goblins vs. Gnomes to come out as the worth of each legendary will likely change once it does.

I actually think Milhouse Manastorm is more useful than Gruul. Gruul is pretty much a giant and not much deadlier when left alone. It comes too late to be useful. Milhouse at least has potential to heavily influence the flow of events of your opponent can't make use of the free spell turn.

Millhouse is useful if you like to laugh a lot. But honestly, he's so risky against essentially every deck except Zoo and some aggro.

[markusin]

I recently opened a pack with a no commons (1 epic, 4 rares, one of which was gold).

I recently opened a pack.

I recently opened a pack as well. It had a golden Legendary, specifically Gruul. Don't know what to do with that.

If you don't want a Gruul then DE and get a legendary you do want. I have a Gruul from a pack I never use anymore. It was my first legendary ever so it did get some mileage before I got better ones.

But the collector in me likes the shiny gold legendary.

Yeah, I got a golden Cho once and actually considered keeping it because it was golden. I was talked sense into here at f.ds and now have a Ragnaros instead which continues to get mileage.

Yeah I think I'll do the same. Actually, I'll wait for Goblins vs. Gnomes to come out as the worth of each legendary will likely change once it does.

I actually think Milhouse Manastorm is more useful than Gruul. Gruul is pretty much a giant and not much deadlier when left alone. It comes too late to be useful. Milhouse at least has potential to heavily influence the flow of events of your opponent can't make use of the free spell turn.

Millhouse is useful if you like to laugh a lot. But honestly, he's so risky against essentially every deck except Zoo and some aggro.

A turn 1/2 Milhouse is not so bad against Shaman either, I don't think. Most Shaman spells are cheap, but have overload, and lightning bolt and rockbiter weapon don't quite 1-shot Milhouse.

Milhouse isn't very competitive, I don't think. Gruul just has coolness factor, but doesn't serve any real role other than being a big body.

[ycz6]

Today I learned, to my chagrin, that playing Master of Disguise on a Knife Juggler does not give it Stealth.

[pingpongsam]

Today I learned, to my chagrin, that playing Master of Disguise on a Knife Juggler does not give it Stealth.

Sure it does, then KJ attacks and loses stealth.

[blueblimp]

Today I learned, to my chagrin, that playing Master of Disguise on a Knife Juggler does not give it Stealth.

Sure it does, then KJ attacks and loses stealth.

It doesn't attack, it "deals damage". The wording is consistent in this case.

Stealth: "Can't be attacked or targeted until it deals damage."
Knife Juggler: "After you summon a minion, deal 1 damage to a random enemy."

(The "can't be attacked or targeted" is wrong though because, as far as I know, the owner of the stealthed minion can target it freely.)

[KingZog3]

Can't be attacked by opponents but I'm sure they cut it save space in the little box.

[blueblimp]

Can't be attacked by opponents but I'm sure they cut it save space in the little box.

It's misleading though because Faerie Dragon says something similar, "can't be targeted by Spells or Hero Powers", and in that case you _can't_ target your own Faerie Dragon. So even the inconsistency is inconsistent.

[popsofctown]

If you Master of Disguise a Knife Juggler and it throws at a Scarlet Crusader, the Juggler SHOULD remain stealthed, if the wording matches Emperor Cobra hits Scarlet Crusader.

[markusin]

If you Master of Disguise a Knife Juggler and it throws at a Scarlet Crusader, the Juggler SHOULD remain stealthed, if the wording matches Emperor Cobra hits Scarlet Crusader.

Good point. It's really "stealthed until it does something vaguely aggressive."

[HiveMindEmulator]

If you Master of Disguise a Knife Juggler and it throws at a Scarlet Crusader, the Juggler SHOULD remain stealthed, if the wording matches Emperor Cobra hits Scarlet Crusader.

Nope. The Knife Juggler still "deals damage", but the Scarlet Crusader isn't "damaged" by it.

[ashersky]

If you Master of Disguise a Knife Juggler and it throws at a Scarlet Crusader, the Juggler SHOULD remain stealthed, if the wording matches Emperor Cobra hits Scarlet Crusader.

Nope. The Knife Juggler still "deals damage", but the Scarlet Crusader isn't "damaged" by it.

Gain versus Would Gain, I guess.

[HiveMindEmulator]

Well there is actual damage dealt. It's just to the shield rather than to the minion.

[popsofctown]

Well there is actual damage dealt. It's just to the shield rather than to the minion.

Actually by the way, why does Water Elemental freeze armored heroes but not shielded minions? It's kinda the same thing.

[KingZog3]

Well there is actual damage dealt. It's just to the shield rather than to the minion.

Actually by the way, why does Water Elemental freeze armored heroes but not shielded minions? It's kinda the same thing.

They decided armor is not Freeze immune, while Divine Shield is. They should make a tab on the main menu describing all the different things in the game. At least the effects that are on minions. A basic rule book to clarify their choices on how basic things work.

[Galzria]

Well there is actual damage dealt. It's just to the shield rather than to the minion.

Actually by the way, why does Water Elemental freeze armored heroes but not shielded minions? It's kinda the same thing.

They decided armor is not Freeze immune, while Divine Shield is. They should make a tab on the main menu describing all the different things in the game. At least the effects that are on minions. A basic rule book to clarify their choices on how basic things work.

While I don't disagree at all, I imagine the "oversight" is a product of making this game 'based off' WoW, and the mechanics therein. Divine Shield means immunity for all intents and purposes, whereas an increase in armor is a damage reduction tool.

I think a lot of the inconsistencies in wording are born out of a belief on their end that "Oh, players know what we mean", or more often "that's how it works in WoW, so it does here too. Why would anybody expect different?". That is, I don't think they always take into consideration (and they should) that there's probably a significant portion of the player base that doesn't know WoW, or it's mechanics and interactions.

[pingpongsam]

I think it is appropriate for the game to mimic its ancestry and for the rest of us to figure it out. It's not like these things cause mass confusion or anythin.

[ashersky]

Nothing more disappointing than opening a legendary that you already have...Cairne again.

[markusin]

Nothing more disappointing than opening a legendary that you already have...Cairne again.

Such first world problems. At least you have Cairne.

My next Legendary after Gruul was Illidan. I'm getting closer I guess. Right now the only Legendary I'm using is Prophet Velen.

He's not that unplayable, actually. He's just not as good as the alternatives.

Edit: And now just got Archmage Antonidas. Might become relevant in GvG with all the spare parts.