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[eliegel34]

People talk about Fermenting/Reformation quite a bit. It is a a strong combo but there is a lot you can do to defend against it.  I think my opponent did a great job of defending against F&R. Below is a list of some of the stronger counters to F&R, but there are a lot of things that will sometimes work.  I've even stolen Fermenting with City States since they had castles splayed and it was their only top castle card. 

I forgot to post the log for this, and can't find it now.  If anyone knows how to find it, that would be great it was between me and dudeHere around 2:30 am MDT 8/15.

Counters to F&R

• Fast Scoring (Clothing, Currency, Perspective, Coal, Machine Tools)
• Sharing Dogmas (Sailing, Experimentation, Railroad, Corporations)
• Board Screwing (Engineering, Gunpowder, Fission, Globalization, Bioengineering)
• Hand Size Attacks (Classification, Explosives, Composites)

[popsofctown]

Aren't you supposed to link a game?

Compass, Engineering, and Gunpowder disrupt it.  If any other cards stop your fermenting/reformation strategy, you're probably doing it wrong. 

I guess Sailing works if you use Code of Laws as one of your enablers.  Optics, pretty tough to share with a Fermenting player.  Alchemy and Physics really shouldn't work at all, the Fermenting player can keep his icon count lower than that.

[dondon151]

Classification can hurt, too, but the problem there is that you're not actually stopping the combo; you're just melding some of his cards.

There's stuff in higher ages like Railroad, Electricity, and Mobility that would do something in theory, but by then your opponent is drawing 8+ cards per dogma anyway. Composites sounds painful, though.

[popsofctown]

The Fermenting player can often guarantee you don't draw composites by leaving 2 cards in the 8 stack, then using double fermenting to draw 12 cards.

If you have enough icons to share experimentation, corporations, or railroad, you're doing it wrong.