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Fastest 2-player finish?
« on: August 06, 2013, 01:06:39 am »
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Forgive me if this has come up before, but even if it has I imagine that it might be time to revisit it with DA and Guilds...

What is the fastest that a 2-player game can end, without a player resigning?  Assume ideal conditions; you can set up the kingdom, make all decisions for both players, and assume perfect shuffle luck. 

There was a CouncilRoom.com achievement called "The Flash" (win in less than 10 turns i.e. 9 or fewer) that was VERY tough to pop.  It only happened 1,004 times in over 10.5 million Isotropic games, or about once every 10,500 games.  I played 4,457 Isotropic games and never popped it.

Isotropic didn't have Dark Ages.  Is Rebuild the key to a new solution?  How about if both players do this with 5/2:

Turn 1: Buy Rebuild
Turn 2: Buy Estate
Turn 3: Draw 5 coppers, buy Rebuild
Turn 4: Play rebuild (Estate into Duchy), trigger shuffle
Turns 5-8: With all the reshuffles from Rebuild, I think you could draw both Rebuilds into your hand at the start of each of these turns.  You need 8 total Rebuild plays to change 4 Estates into 4 Provinces.  Both players get their 4th Province on Turn 8.

I don't know if that works or not.  Thoughts?  Logs?  Other solutions?   

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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 01:17:37 am »
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A single player can buy every single card in the supply in 4 turns(without guilds):
http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=6855.msg197272#msg197272

With guilds and two players, may be it can be faster, but I have no idea how.

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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 01:20:35 am »
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With Guilds and one player, it's possible to end the game on turn 3.  Maybe empty the supply with two players.
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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 02:13:40 pm »
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yeah, in the empty supply in 3 turns thread (which hasn't been achieved yet) I showed how you can 3-pile in 3 turns in solotaire.
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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 07:15:57 pm »
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yeah, in the empty supply in 3 turns thread (which hasn't been achieved yet) I showed how you can 3-pile in 3 turns in solotaire.
...You mean this thread? http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=8448.0
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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 09:09:20 pm »
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oh, whoops. it's the most VP in 3 turns thread: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4334.0

Editted for wrong link
« Last Edit: August 17, 2013, 03:58:27 pm by liopoil »
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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 01:56:35 pm »
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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2013, 02:38:25 pm »
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Re: Fastest 2-player finish?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2013, 03:58:01 pm »
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oh wow, fail. copy pasted wrong link. it is the most VP in 3 turns thread though: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=4334.0
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