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Re: Showdown
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2013, 06:37:23 pm »
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I have no idea how well Puzzle Strike actually plays, but Sirlin gets huge negative points from me because he ripped off Puzzle Strike's chip design from someone at BGG.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2013, 06:40:15 pm »
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I have no idea how well Puzzle Strike actually plays, but Sirlin gets huge negative points from me because he ripped off Puzzle Strike's chip design from someone at BGG.

Wait, that wouldn't work for deck-inspection...
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2013, 06:49:56 pm »
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I have no idea how well Puzzle Strike actually plays, but Sirlin gets huge negative points from me because he ripped off Puzzle Strike's chip design from someone at BGG.

Wait, that wouldn't work for deck-inspection...

Yeah, chips probably don't work well for a few different mechanics.  You'd probably need privacy screens because big hands would be hard to handle as well.  For deck inspection, you probably pull out a chip and either leave it out in their "discard" or set it aside to be their "next draw".
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2013, 06:58:06 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2013, 07:00:27 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...
You could have a draw bag and a discard bag.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2013, 07:05:55 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...
You could have a draw bag and a discard bag.

But what about things on top of your deck?
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2013, 07:42:57 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...

It worked just fine for base Dominion as I recall.  However, the advent of Courtyard pretty much killed that ability.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2013, 07:48:41 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...
You could have a draw bag and a discard bag.

But what about things on top of your deck?
You could have a small "deck" of chips that represent the top of your deck.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #58 on: August 04, 2013, 08:05:55 pm »
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He mentioned somewhere that if you know the top card(s) of your deck, you'd just put the subsequent drawn chips in a small stack next to your draw bag.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2013, 08:08:02 pm »
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I'm not sure the original creator's intention behind using chips.  Might have just been for fun.  But other people have found the chips better than cards for people who have trouble shuffling due to disability or illness.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2013, 08:11:01 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...

It worked just fine for base Dominion as I recall.  However, the advent of Courtyard pretty much killed that ability.

Well, there's the Spy and Bureaucrat...
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #61 on: August 04, 2013, 08:21:10 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...

It worked just fine for base Dominion as I recall.  However, the advent of Courtyard pretty much killed that ability.
Spy?
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #62 on: August 04, 2013, 08:33:09 pm »
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The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...

It worked just fine for base Dominion as I recall.  However, the advent of Courtyard pretty much killed that ability.
Spy?

The whole chip idea for deckbuilding is fine, but it doesn't work for Dominion...  I wonder why the guy did it...

It worked just fine for base Dominion as I recall.  However, the advent of Courtyard pretty much killed that ability.

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Re: Showdown
« Reply #63 on: August 04, 2013, 08:40:17 pm »
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He mentioned somewhere that if you know the top card(s) of your deck, you'd just put the subsequent drawn chips in a small stack next to your draw bag.

Seriously, guys.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #64 on: August 04, 2013, 09:13:27 pm »
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I have no idea how well Puzzle Strike actually plays, but Sirlin gets huge negative points from me because he ripped off Puzzle Strike's chip design from someone at BGG.

Wow.  I've seen that linked many times, but I always assumed that the image was only a photoshop making fun of Puzzle Strike being a clone of Dominion.  Now that I see the "secret history" of Puzzle Strike, I am appalled.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #65 on: August 04, 2013, 09:38:36 pm »
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I'm not sure the original creator's intention behind using chips.  Might have just been for fun.  But other people have found the chips better than cards for people who have trouble shuffling due to disability or illness.

Or they just don't like shuffling. It can add significantly to playtime so it makes sense that someone would be motivated to cut down on it as much as possible.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2013, 10:43:23 pm »
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I've probably played Puzzle Strike more extensively than anyone else on the forum.  So if that is somehow seen as the most likely adversary, hit me up. 
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2013, 10:45:21 pm »
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Maybe it would be helpful to ask Tom Vasel what other deck builders are most likely to be discussed, to allow any potential guest to prepare (or judge their own qualifications).
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2013, 11:04:50 pm »
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Here's a link to the thread that caused me to quit Puzzle Strike:
http://www.fantasystrike.com/forums/index.php?threads/why-is-bank-screw-deliberately-included-in-this-game.5455/#post-162420

Rather ironically, Dominion is far more suited to competitive play because a best out of three Puzzle Strike match is wildly inaccurate.  Game one is heavily affected by who gets hit hardest by bank screw, even an expert will lose if they have two character chips with "+1 action, only for red chips", and the bank has no red chips.

After the RNG picks a winner for game one, it's like breaking serve.  The player who lost the most recent game gets to swap out one card from the bank with any other card in existence.  (The character with Throne Room as a character chip might bring Bridge in, for a real example).  So the second and third games will usually go to the guy with the edge, making tournament games essentially best of 1.

I tried playing in Puzzle Strike tournaments, it was not satisfying at all.  I got knocked out by a guy who bought 3 f******ing Copper turn 2, and I promise you, no, it's not a thing.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #69 on: August 05, 2013, 07:23:22 am »
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I've played Quarriors and Ascension.  Both of them add an extra level of randomness that I find unappealing.  Getting a bad draw of dice in Quarriors and then rolling sucky is like a one-two punch of fuck you from lady luck.

EDIT: With Quarriors I feel there's a really stellar game that just isn't there as it stands.  Ascension I just found way too random in 4 player - there's a chance it could improve a lot as a 2 player game.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2013, 09:14:18 pm »
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Does anyone know if this actually ended up happening, and if so, where I can find it? I had a look at the BGG thread, and there's a single episode up there which has TS3 vs. Eclipse and Resistance vs. Mafia, but I don't see an episode 2 linked anywhere.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #71 on: November 28, 2013, 01:48:04 am »
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Does anyone know if this actually ended up happening, and if so, where I can find it? I had a look at the BGG thread, and there's a single episode up there which has TS3 vs. Eclipse and Resistance vs. Mafia, but I don't see an episode 2 linked anywhere.
ITunes has a total of 6 episodes listed. I've only ever listened to the two you named. I don't know if the Dominion has happened yet, but I'll be really bummed out if someone from here didn't go and represent the game. The Resistance vs. Mafia one was really interesting.

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Re: Showdown
« Reply #72 on: November 28, 2013, 04:07:56 am »
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But Resistance vs Mafia is easy.

Resistance: No one gets eliminated, groups up to 10.
Mafia: Elimination puts players more on edge, facilitates larger groups.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #73 on: November 28, 2013, 11:12:50 am »
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But Resistance vs Mafia is easy.

Resistance: No one gets eliminated, groups up to 10.
Mafia: Elimination puts players more on edge, facilitates larger groups.
Resistance: No Mod, IRL has more proof than "I'm Town, I'm Town, I'm Town", no elimination
Mafia: Elimination, players could lose interest if they're just a Vanilla Townie.

My general opinion is that I'd play Resistance with <10 people and Mafia with 11+.
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Re: Showdown
« Reply #74 on: November 28, 2013, 11:20:27 am »
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Yeah, I mean it's no contest. Resistance is a better game for a small number of people, and mafia is better for a lot of people.

I also think mafia is better online and Resistance is better in person.
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