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Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« on: July 27, 2013, 07:36:51 am »
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Just bought them both with 20 Gokoins or 10 Gokoins for one. Glad, I didn't reach 100 VP tokens. I am at 82, soon will get 100 and then I can have Walled Village, and I already have the other promos. I am surprised they are not selling the other three individually just yet
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 09:45:09 am »
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Nice! I had exactly 10 Gokoins left with which to buy Black Market. I already had the other 4 Promos, so it works out perfectly.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 09:49:38 am »
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Well don't I feel silly now for getting BM the hard way.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 09:50:47 am »
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Nice! I had exactly 10 Gokoins left with which to buy Black Market. I already had the other 4 Promos, so it works out perfectly.
How did you get the other 4? There aren't enough adventures to get them...
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 10:21:35 am »
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Nice! I had exactly 10 Gokoins left with which to buy Black Market. I already had the other 4 Promos, so it works out perfectly.
How did you get the other 4? There aren't enough adventures to get them...

I submitted a lot of detailed Hinterlands bug reports when it came out and they gave me Governor.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 10:59:52 am »
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Wow, isn't 10 Gokoins like 1 dollar? 100 VP = 1 dollar is a horrible exchange rate. I hope they leave most of the promos as VP only, otherwise I'm going to feel stupid for spending so much time for governor and envoy.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2013, 11:07:09 am »
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Wow, isn't 10 Gokoins like 1 dollar? 100 VP = 1 dollar is a horrible exchange rate. I hope they leave most of the promos as VP only, otherwise I'm going to feel stupid for spending so much time for governor and envoy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2013, 11:13:42 am »
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I didn't know you could buy the last 2 promos with just gokoins. Thanks for the hjeads up. Got Black Market about a minute ago.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2013, 11:38:52 am »
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So why hasn't Goko made the other three purchasable?  This is really getting frustrating.  If they made all the promos purchasable with Gokoins, or if they provided away to earn 500 VP, or if they had launched Black Market and Stash as purchasable with Gokoins... any of those would be acceptable.  But right now, they've probably just pissed off customers who spent VP on Black Market and Stash during the past week, and are now for some inexplicable reason among the few users who cannot attain all of the promos.  And there is simply no rational explanation for this that I can think of.

I can see good intentions in Goko's original plan.  I appreciate that they were allowing us to obtain the promo cards for "free" rather than selling them.  I also appreciate that they intended the promo cards as awards at the end of a fun and unique adventure mode.  But the adventure mode was not fun.  They totally screwed the pooch on that one.  But there are other fun ways of giving out VP.  I feel that what most of us want is a fun way to earn promos while playing against other humans.  Why not implement an achievement system, like the one CouncilRoom added to Iso, and award some number of VP each time a player unlocks an achievement (for the first time)?  So long as most of the achievements are fun, we'd even let slide a few money grubbing ones, like "buy an expansion", "buy all expansions", "play a game every day for a month", and so on.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 01:25:19 pm »
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Sometimes I think it's a no win for Goko. They give us what we want, the ability to purchase the new promos (and even at the price requested explicitly in other threads -- $1/card), and people complain they should have done something else!
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2013, 01:46:07 pm »
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Sometimes I think it's a no win for Goko. They give us what we want, the ability to purchase the new promos (and even at the price requested explicitly in other threads -- $1/card), and people complain they should have done something else!

I don't think that anyone requested that specifically the new promos be sold.  Maybe someone said something to the effect of "Here's my money, now please just give me Black Market!". But if Goko really is trying to honor this, surely they are following the letter and not the spirit.

The other complaint they've nearly fixed is "please allow us to obtain all of the available promos!". I say that they've only nearly fixed this since, unless they are allowing VP spent on the latter promos be refunded, anyone who recently bought those cards now are unable to acquire enough VP for the previous three promos.

Goko was NOT in a lose lose situation.  It has never been a difficult problem to solve.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2013, 01:57:55 pm »
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Sometimes I think it's a no win for Goko. They give us what we want, the ability to purchase the new promos (and even at the price requested explicitly in other threads -- $1/card), and people complain they should have done something else!

I don't think that anyone requested that specifically the new promos be sold.  Maybe someone said something to the effect of "Here's my money, now please just give me Black Market!". But if Goko really is trying to honor this, surely they are following the letter and not the spirit.

The other complaint they've nearly fixed is "please allow us to obtain all of the available promos!". I say that they've only nearly fixed this since, unless they are allowing VP spent on the latter promos be refunded, anyone who recently bought those cards now are unable to acquire enough VP for the previous three promos.

Goko was NOT in a lose lose situation.  It has never been a difficult problem to solve.

Seriously, all they had to do was make all five purchasable.  Bam, done.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2013, 02:54:30 pm »
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Wow, isn't 10 Gokoins like 1 dollar? 100 VP = 1 dollar is a horrible exchange rate. I hope they leave most of the promos as VP only, otherwise I'm going to feel stupid for spending so much time for governor and envoy.
Dominion shouldn't be an MMORPG where you're rewarding for grinding (i.e. wasting time) by getting stuff. This attitude is more appropriate to WoW and such.

I don't think that anyone requested that specifically the new promos be sold.
Uh, I have, though maybe never directly to them. It's incredibly weird that the other promos remain unbuyable.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 02:58:23 pm »
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I don't think that anyone requested that specifically the new promos be sold.
Uh, I have, though maybe never directly to them. It's incredibly weird that the other promos remain unbuyable.

Also, shark bait did here.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2013, 03:26:22 pm »
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I don't think that anyone requested that specifically the new promos be sold.
Uh, I have, though maybe never directly to them. It's incredibly weird that the other promos remain unbuyable.

Also, shark bait did here.

He explicitly did not, unless you think he wanted five copies of Stash.  Possibly for some Chancellor deck.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2013, 08:07:37 pm »
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Wow, isn't 10 Gokoins like 1 dollar? 100 VP = 1 dollar is a horrible exchange rate. I hope they leave most of the promos as VP only, otherwise I'm going to feel stupid for spending so much time for governor and envoy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs#Loss_aversion_and_the_sunk_cost_fallacy

This is not the relevant fallacy... Sunk cost fallacy is people thinking they have to use something which they don't want to because they paid for it. An example would be that if you grinded for 30 VP tokens, you feel like you have to get the rest or those 30 would be a waste.

This is a different problem. People don't want something that they paid for to go down in cost. Clearly it was worth the previously paid cost at the time they paid it, but now it's a waste.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 03:33:17 am »
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I don't think that anyone requested that specifically the new promos be sold.
Uh, I have, though maybe never directly to them. It's incredibly weird that the other promos remain unbuyable.

Also, shark bait did here.

He explicitly did not, unless you think he wanted five copies of Stash.  Possibly for some Chancellor deck.
Sorry, I misunderstood. (I thought you meant that nobody asked for promos to be buyable.)
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2013, 08:06:55 am »
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I don't think that anyone requested that specifically the new promos be sold.
Uh, I have, though maybe never directly to them. It's incredibly weird that the other promos remain unbuyable.

Also, shark bait did here.

He explicitly did not, unless you think he wanted five copies of Stash.  Possibly for some Chancellor deck.
Sorry, I misunderstood. (I thought you meant that nobody asked for promos to be buyable.)

That is also what I thought.
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Re: Black Market + Stash now for purchase with Gokoins
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2013, 03:53:27 pm »
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Maybe someone said something to the effect of "Here's my money, now please just give me Black Market!"

I know I told them pretty much that (but I don't want Black Market)

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Here I am before you, with cash (ok, credit card) in my hand, begging you for some other way (any way at all, actually) to get the promo cards. *lip starts to quiver* Will you help me?
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