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Black Market and Stash available
« on: July 23, 2013, 03:41:47 am »
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hi guys just read a message from the goko staff in chat that in about one hour we will be able to buy the remaining promos for 100 VP each.
the question is will there be enough adventures to reach all 5 promos? ;)
« Last Edit: July 23, 2013, 03:42:50 am by RTT »
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 04:20:09 am »
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the question is will there be enough adventures to reach all 5 promos? ;)

Right now there isn't, but eventually yes. However, even with a Guilds campaign it won't be enough to even get 4 of the 5 Promos. So yeah... we need more adventures.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 04:21:46 am »
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Rather, they need to just sell the Promos - or do people actually enjoy the adventures?
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 04:27:48 am »
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there should be another way to get VPs like goko organised small tournaments or achievments (win 5 games in a row/ win without buying a province /...)
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 04:51:56 am »
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I just hit 100VP—and Black Market is coming out?  Timing!

EDIT: And here's a trial game.  The (Firefox) log viewer copes fine.  It's an Iso-style limited Black Market deck:

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Black market deck cards: Pirate Ship, Wharf, Stables, Mint, Highway, Fool's Gold, Tunnel, Warehouse, Tactician, Copper, Crossroads, Duchy, Remake, Scout, Hunting Party, Bridge, Cutpurse, Courtyard, Armory, Village, Secret Chamber, Watchtower, Gardens, Hermit, King's Court

Spot the deliberate mistake.  It wasn't possible to buy Duchies normally.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 05:21:45 am »
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Quote from: qmech link=topic=8955.msg271956#msg271956 EDIT: [url=http://
And here's a trial game.[/url]  The (Firefox) log viewer copes fine.
Link don't work.

EDIT: Works now.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 05:22:45 am »
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Quote from: qmech link=topic=8955.msg271956#msg271956 EDIT: [url=http://
And here's a trial game.[/url]  The (Firefox) log viewer copes fine.
Link don't work.

Caught it while you were posting!

Maybe I'll claim that was the deliberate mistake. :)
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2013, 05:27:28 am »
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Spot the deliberate mistake.  It wasn't possible to buy Duchies normally.
Did you hack it? Or is that Goko bug?
« Last Edit: July 23, 2013, 05:29:16 am by yed »
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2013, 05:30:01 am »
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Spot the deliberate mistake.  It wasn't possible to buy Duchies normally.
Did you hack it? Or is that Goko bug?

That's a bug.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 05:35:32 am »
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Spot the deliberate mistake.  It wasn't possible to buy Duchies normally.
Did you hack it? Or is that Goko bug?

That's a bug.
I've reported that:
https://getsatisfaction.com/goko/topics/duchy_in_black_market_deck?rfm=1
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2013, 05:37:25 am »
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Spot the deliberate mistake.  It wasn't possible to buy Duchies normally.
Did you hack it? Or is that Goko bug?

That's a bug.
I've reported that:
https://getsatisfaction.com/goko/topics/duchy_in_black_market_deck?rfm=1

Thanks, getsatisfaction stopped working for me at some point.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 07:33:58 am »
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Hmm, Adventurer is a pretty strong card when you're starting each game with 7 Silvers.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 08:58:53 am »
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Man, I hope they add a way to get shields soon.  I feel really dumb for buying a card I hate thinking I'd one day be able to get all five of them anyway.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 10:54:56 am »
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Hmm, Stash or Black Market?

For those of you with the User Extension, if you use the extension to create a game with a code like "Intrigue", is the Black Market deck also all Intrigue? Would it be possible for the Extension control what's in the Black Market in some other way?
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 11:19:10 am »
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Would it be possible for the Extension control what's in the Black Market in some other way?

Since I could make the extension let you specify cards even for pro games you host, I imagine controlling the Black Market would be possible :P
(no guarantees though)
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2013, 11:19:57 am »
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Also I am interested to hear just how bad the Stash shuffling interface is...
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2013, 11:44:59 am »
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Would it be possible for the Extension control what's in the Black Market in some other way?

Since I could make the extension let you specify cards even for pro games you host, I imagine controlling the Black Market would be possible :P
(no guarantees though)

That would be wonderful. I would love to have a Donald X. style Black Market deck, a.k.a. a game of Prosperity and Alchemy where the Black Market that's just Hinterlands, for example.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2013, 12:23:50 pm »
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Rather, they need to just sell the Promos - or do people actually enjoy the adventures?

I enjoy the adventures where I can use zaps to get my deck back to 3 Estates and 7 Coppers. The adventures where I'm stuck with 5 dead cards are just infuriating.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2013, 09:44:55 pm »
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Also I am interested to hear just how bad the Stash shuffling interface is...

After my first test, I'm pleasantly surprised at how well it works. It spreads out the cards of your deck (face down, of course), and clicking on a card places a Stash above it. There are also buttons for the top and bottom of the deck.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2013, 11:40:41 pm »
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Well, Black Market is interestingly glitchy. Tell me what you notice that's odd about the opening turns.

http://dom.retrobox.eu/?/20130723/log.505c7f4ca2e6c78ad2ed5ba1.1374637104260.txt

If someone could report this on Getsatisfaction (if it isn't already) that'd be great. I can't seem to login there anymore.

Edit: The main oddity here is that my deck, despite the log saying otherwise, consists of 3 coppers and 3 estates. My opponent is less fortunate and starts with 1 copper and 3 estates. There's also weirdness like Gold and Coppers in the Black Market deck but that's been noted before.

Edit 2: That said outside of obvious glitches, the interface for Black Market is very nice. It draws the cards over the supply, but you can click on them to move them away so you can see the supply. Unfortunately that means you can't click on them to zoom in and read them, which considering they're cards not in the current game is something people would probably want to do....
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2013, 11:11:21 am »
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Now I get to waste 2 hrs playing adventures! Yay.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2013, 01:11:22 pm »
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I would literally give goko more money for the promos.  I don't want to take the time to flail around in the adventures.  Call me cray cray.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2013, 01:17:05 pm »
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Here Goko, I'm giving you money.

5 Promos for $5.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2013, 02:21:41 pm »
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The only reason I can think of why they don't allow you to outright buy them is that playing through the adventures may make some people want to buy more expansions (to unlock more Adventures). Or maybe they function as a usable achievement for completion, or something.

But if you already own all of the expansions, playing more Adventures definitely won't lead to any more money for them, so why not unlock the ability to buy the promos after buying all the expansions? I don't really have a good answer for that.

On the plus side, having the promos so hard to get makes it much less likely for me to come across Black Market in a game on Goko.  8) And that, my friends, is a very good thing indeed.
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Re: Black Market and Stash available
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2013, 02:38:02 pm »
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Can someone give me a quick guide on the best way to grind to Black Market? I have no idea what I'm doing in these adventures.
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