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shMerker

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Re: When opening terminals miss the reshuffle
« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2013, 07:12:40 pm »
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The term was used for Magic before it was used for Dominion.

I didn't realize that. I don't know a whole lot about Magic but it seems like that idea would be more relevant in that sphere, where there's a wider range of cards that could be in play at any given time.

But I have to wonder, do Magic players have this same argument? Edge cases are pretty much the entire game.
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Re: When opening terminals miss the reshuffle
« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2013, 08:44:19 pm »
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I quoted a nice definition from a mtg wiki earlier in this thread.  Maybe I was a bit too adamant about there being *no* exceptions.  But I think it is fair to say that forced discard or forced trashing are not strictly worse or better than not having that on a card, and it should be very, very obvious that Scheme cannot be strictly better than Sea Hag because they are completely different cards.
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Re: When opening terminals miss the reshuffle
« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2013, 12:44:30 pm »
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And now, assuming the MtG wiki can be trusted, I can answer my own question.

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The convention is well understood among experienced Magic players. However, those new to the terminology may complain that a strictly better card is not better in all situations than a strictly worse card. For example, Shock is a better card to draw than Lightning Bolt if both players are at two life and the opponent controls a Booby Trap naming Lightning Bolt. Such examples are not a failure of the terminology; it compares only the attributes of the cards regardless of obscure situations that may arise in play.

So yeah they do have this argument, but there's still general consensus about it.

Edit: VVV Yeah sorry I'll stop posting if it's not about terminal collisions.
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Re: When opening terminals miss the reshuffle
« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2013, 02:34:23 pm »
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I think this discussion has become strictly worse than it should.
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