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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #450 on: July 24, 2013, 07:52:04 pm »

Is the fakeclaim usually first even in non-pressure situations?  I mean, it makes perfect sense for fakeclaims to generally be first, particularly in the instance of "oh crap, I need to divert attention", but is this true in a "Oh, I think I have important information" claim?

Because I don't feel like there was any chance of me being lynched today, going into the day.

Day 2 of mean girls where Ashersky claimed tracker (ask him about it sometime, he loves to talk about it), Day 3 of pirates where Galzria claimed.. cop I believe? are two recent ones, if you're actually curious and want to read them.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #451 on: July 24, 2013, 08:59:14 pm »

Is the fakeclaim usually first even in non-pressure situations?  I mean, it makes perfect sense for fakeclaims to generally be first, particularly in the instance of "oh crap, I need to divert attention", but is this true in a "Oh, I think I have important information" claim?

Because I don't feel like there was any chance of me being lynched today, going into the day.

Yes.  The first good recollection of this is my first game (MX).  Frisk claimed Cop when I was the Doctor, and there could be no Cop.

Hydras is one that really sticks out, as I was the real cop there and counterclaimed, but we still lost.

Me in Mean Girls, Galz in Pirates...Robz's on D1 of Mafia Noir where he fake claimed as town.  It's basically every time.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #452 on: July 24, 2013, 08:59:39 pm »

vote: Jimmmmm
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #453 on: July 24, 2013, 09:01:08 pm »

Vote: Jimmmmm
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #454 on: July 24, 2013, 09:01:46 pm »

I looked at the interactions with nkirbit of both cop claims.

Jimmmmm is the more likely partner, by far.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #455 on: July 24, 2013, 09:02:18 pm »

If we're right, by the way, I'd ask that night not last the full 12 hours, as nkirbit can kill whomever he wants and we'll just lynch him.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #456 on: July 24, 2013, 09:02:42 pm »

Vote: Umbrage

Don't do it ash!
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #457 on: July 24, 2013, 09:03:04 pm »

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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #458 on: July 24, 2013, 09:03:51 pm »

EFHW, which way are you leaning?  I'd ask that you vote now, if you feel okay about it.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Night 1!)
« Reply #459 on: July 24, 2013, 09:05:36 pm »

Vote Count 2.5



UmbrageofSnow (1, u2): Jimmm
Jimmm (1, u2): Umbrageofsnow
EFHW (1, u1): Nkirbit
Nkirbit (0, u2):

Not voting (2): Ashersky, EFHW

WIth 5 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is at 10 pm on Thursday, July 25.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #460 on: July 24, 2013, 09:34:09 pm »

unvote
I guess you want the hammer?  Ok.  vote: Jimmmmm
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Night 1!)
« Reply #461 on: July 24, 2013, 09:36:44 pm »

Vote Count 2.6



Jimmm (2, u3): Umbrageofsnow, EFHW
UmbrageofSnow (1, u2): Jimmm
EFHW (1, u1): Nkirbit
Nkirbit (0, u2):

Not voting (1): Ashersky

WIth 5 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is at 10 pm on Thursday, July 25.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #462 on: July 24, 2013, 09:37:54 pm »

Vote: Jimmmmm
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #463 on: July 24, 2013, 09:38:09 pm »

White flag.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #464 on: July 24, 2013, 09:38:51 pm »

Stole the hammer!  One last act of defiance!  Any last words?
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #465 on: July 24, 2013, 09:39:14 pm »

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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #466 on: July 24, 2013, 09:40:21 pm »

Only time for a flip, no flavor :(

Jimmm was a Mafia Goon.

I will start D3 as soon as I have received all night actions.

Get your night actions in!
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Night 1!)
« Reply #467 on: July 24, 2013, 09:41:15 pm »

Vote Count 2.Final



Jimmm (3, u4): Umbrageofsnow, EFHW, Jimmm
UmbrageofSnow (1, u2):
EFHW (1, u1): Nkirbit
Nkirbit (0, u2):

Not voting (1): Ashersky

WIth 5 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Night 1!)
« Reply #468 on: July 24, 2013, 09:45:03 pm »

Mafia decided to go easy on you guys. There were no deaths last night!

Vote Count 3.1



Not voting (1): Ashersky, EFHW, Nkirbit, UmbrageofSnow

WIth 4 players alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is at 10 pm on Thursday, July 25.

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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #469 on: July 24, 2013, 09:48:49 pm »

Vote: nkirbit

Thanks for believing me, guys.

Sorry I screwed that up so bad.
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #470 on: July 24, 2013, 09:49:19 pm »

Vote: Nkirbit
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #471 on: July 24, 2013, 09:50:25 pm »

I feel for you nkirbit.  Lynched twice in the same day, and neither one really your fault.  (And actually, both the fault of me getting powerroles.)
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #472 on: July 24, 2013, 09:53:37 pm »

So you're not going to PM me my investigation result, TA?  :'(
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #473 on: July 24, 2013, 09:55:00 pm »

You didn't mess up Umbrage. 

Tough break, nkirbit.  vote: nkirbit
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Re: ZM15: Time for Something Completely Different (Day 2!)
« Reply #474 on: July 24, 2013, 09:55:49 pm »

For what it's worth:

The entire decision to kill Sudgy was my idea.  We only had a brief period online together, and we chose Ash.  But, I had serious misgivings, and posted them in the QT, but Jimm was unfortunately at work and unable to stop me.  He was only able to post a brief message saying he would think about it, but was stuck at work too late to stop me.  Entirely my fault for switching.

The reason moving off Ash:

I convinced myself that killing Ash didn't leave us in a good position.  There would be an alive cop, who had the confirmed role of another player.  I talked myself into believe that the only way killing Sudgy or UoS would be worse than that was if the cop was left alive and they investigated EFHW, unfortunately, that was what happened.

I didn't think EFHW was an option because I thought Ash would protect her.  Who did you protect, Ash?

The reason I killed Sudgy, not UoS, wasn't because I thought Sudgy was any more likely to be the doctor.  I thought that if Sudgy was the doctor, he would be investigating EFHW for certain.  I wasn't sure who UoS would investigate.  It could be EFHW, but I also could have seen him investigating myself, or Jimm, or Sudgy.  So I killed Sudgy.  Obviously the wrong choice, and sorry for making it Jimm.  i panicked.

I think the 12 hour night is too short.  We had a complex decision, with a lot to go over, and with Jimm being in Australia and me in America, not enough time online together to talk it through.  We really could have killed anyone, and for each target, we had a different set of claims we would have to deal with.  I think if we had more time, I wouldn't have fucked up, be we didn't, and I did.
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