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Tips from the pros
« on: June 24, 2013, 11:52:47 am »
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I'm thinking it would be fun to create a list of short pro tips for all the cards that people can quickly reference. Something like this:

Cellar
   DO: Village Smithy type engines
   DON'T: Militia
   TRAP: Tunnel, Slogs (yes you have lots of crap to discard, but you'll draw mostly crap)
   
Chapel
   DON'T: slogs, Copper is good

Moat
   DO: 3 or 4 player games with attacks
   DON'T: 2 player games with attacks
   TRAP: building an Village/Smithy engine with this (eg Festival/Moat)

Chancellor
   DO: Stash, Familiar

Village
   DO: big terminal draw and a +buy
   DON'T: Big Money, Slogs
   TRAP: big terminal draw without +buy
   
Woodcutter
   DO: desperate for a +buy in an engine
   
Workshop
   DO: slogs, rushes and engines with cheap components
   DON'T: Big Money

Would this be useful?
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 12:03:21 pm »
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Would this be useful?

Might be useful. At least couldn't hurt.

One disagreement:
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Moat
   DON'T: 2 player games with attacks
It's not as good as in 3-4 players, but it's still worth it enough of the time that I wouldn't call it a "DON'T".

The trouble with these is that we'll get caught in edge-cases, but I don't think this is an edge case. Moat is at least an above-average cheap terminal when there are strong attacks around.
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 12:54:32 pm »
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Just add that info to the wiki.

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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 12:59:14 pm »
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Chapel
   DON'T: slogs, Copper is good

DON'T: after turn 2, more than 1.
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 01:21:02 pm »
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I'm thinking it would be fun to create a list of short pro tips for all the cards that people can quickly reference. Something like this:

Cellar
   TRAP: Tunnel, Slogs (yes you have lots of crap to discard, but you'll draw mostly crap)

Uh, disagree heartily. Cellar works will Tunnel, not as well as some other things, but it's decent. And yeah, Cellar can be pretty key in slogs. Not like the best, but I certainly wouldn't use the word "trap."
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 01:39:21 pm »
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Chapel
Don't
BM

Smithy
Don't
Slogs

Edit: I guess I am not a pro, though.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2013, 01:20:08 pm by Mr Anderson »
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 02:42:23 pm »
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DON'T: Try to generalize Dominion into a list of do's and don'ts.
DO: Expect arguments to break out when you do.




Note: I actually don't think this is a bad idea.  But there's not going to be much that we can't say "depends on the board" about.
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 02:48:33 pm »
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DON'T: Try to generalize Dominion into a list of do's and don'ts.
DO: Expect arguments to break out when you do.

I disagree. I think it depends on the board.
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 03:24:14 pm »
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Man, so many don't listed for Chapel so far. That card must seriously suck, I guess.

I'm not pro enough to really contribute, but I can at least add this one:

Scout
DO

(Also I think this is a really good idea. When complete, it might make for a nice front page article, maybe. Perhaps with a short summary paragraph for each card, and one article per expansion)
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 03:35:22 pm »
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What constitutes "Pro"?  Goko 6000+ or iso 40+?   ;)

Edit:

My single biggest pro-tip:  Do not ever blindly see Card X and say "OMG Card X OP" and go with that strategy.  Take a minute to evaluate the board and make a decision of your strategy after careful considering the potential interactions present, because all of us know that in dominion, it depends on the board
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 04:49:47 pm »
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TRAP: Counting House
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2013, 05:01:51 pm »
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2013, 06:46:49 pm »
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I like it. These forums are full of knowledge, but you have to be pretty dedicated to find it. The existing summaries help a lot, and we could definitely use more.

I'd prefer a more web-oriented implementation: links to illustrative games, strategy articles, etc. With a bare list, I can imagine a new player seeing "Saboteur: DON'T" and going "wtf? Saboteur can trash Colonies. These guys are on crack."
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 06:53:41 pm »
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I like it. These forums are full of knowledge, but you have to be pretty dedicated to find it. The existing summaries help a lot, and we could definitely use more.

I'd prefer a more web-oriented implementation: links to illustrative games, strategy articles, etc. With a bare list, I can imagine a new player seeing "Saboteur: DON'T" and going "wtf? Saboteur can trash Colonies. These guys are on crack."


Isn't this exactly what the Wiki is for?
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 07:45:44 pm »
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Needs a web page where you can paste in a board and get back the set of quick tips for that board, prefaced by

DON'T: Try to generalize Dominion into a list of do's and don'ts.
DO: Expect arguments to break out when you do.

I disagree. I think it depends on the board.
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Re: Tips from the pros
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2013, 07:40:41 am »
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What constitutes "Pro"?  Goko 6000+ or iso 40+?   ;)

iso 55+
-Stef-, pls write that list!
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