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Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« on: June 24, 2013, 01:14:10 am »
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A Goko player with the username "btard" has selected as his/her profile image the naked torso of a woman.

This should probably be prevented by the powers that be.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 01:15:55 am »
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A Goko player with the username "btard" has selected as his/her profile image the naked torso of a woman.

This should probably be prevented by the powers that be.

Um, isn't it the extension that allows profile images? Not Goko?
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 01:17:50 am »
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This isn't really Goko's fault; the custom avatars are part of the extension. With the Chrome or Safari versions linked in my signature (or the latest Version for Firefox on my GitHub), you can blacklist players so you don't need see then in the lobbies or games they're part of.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 01:20:26 am »
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A Goko player with the username "btard" has selected as his/her profile image the naked torso of a woman.

This should probably be prevented by the powers that be.

Um, isn't it the extension that allows profile images? Not Goko?

I don't understand technology, so whatever you just said, that's nice.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 01:22:17 am »
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This isn't really Goko's fault; the custom avatars are part of the extension. With the Chrome or Safari versions linked in my signature (or the latest Version for Firefox on my GitHub), you can blacklist players so you don't need see then in the lobbies or games they're part of.

Well, okay. But, I'm just going to guess here, Goko is going to get annoyed if your extension lets people make pornographic images as their profiles. Even if there is some extension method of solving it.

Or do only the people with the extension see custom images at all?

Again, I am a toddler with respect to these tech questions.

(Also, I am not offended by the images--I just expect other people to be, and for Goko to sensibly not want that.)
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 01:26:56 am »
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Well, somehow Robz is being sent the pornographic information, even if he needs an extension installed to view it.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 01:37:34 am »
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Well, somehow Robz is being sent the pornographic information, even if he needs an extension installed to view it.

I am confused. I am pretty sure everyone with the extension can see it. I don't know if everyone everyone can see it. Either way, I doubt Goko will like it, and I don't blame them. Am I way off base here?
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 01:47:13 am »
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I don't know if you need the extension to see it.  I have the extension installed also.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 02:02:01 am »
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Of course you need the extension to see custom imgages, everything else would be a massive design and security flaw on goko's side.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 02:05:25 am »
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Of course you need the extension to view it.  Someone else's Greasemonkey script can't overwrite Goko's graphics and force them to display on my computer, Greasemonkey is LOCAL TO YOUR MACHINE.  If you don't choose to install the extension to read other people's custom avatars, you can't possibly see them.  It isn't actually changing anything about the Goko program.

In which case, I don't see why Goko should care, it isn't their product, their fault, or their problem.  Especially because you had to go out of your way to find the extension.  I could see them caring if it was in any way a supported product, but it isn't.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 02:12:08 am »
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Of course you need the extension to see custom imgages, everything else would be a massive design and security flaw on goko's side.

This comment has made me even less sure whether you need the extension or not.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2013, 02:15:48 am »
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Of course you need the extension to view it.  Someone else's Greasemonkey script can't overwrite Goko's graphics and force them to display on my computer, Greasemonkey is LOCAL TO YOUR MACHINE.  If you don't choose to install the extension to read other people's custom avatars, you can't possibly see them.  It isn't actually changing anything about the Goko program.

In which case, I don't see why Goko should care, it isn't their product, their fault, or their problem.  Especially because you had to go out of your way to find the extension.  I could see them caring if it was in any way a supported product, but it isn't.

I don't understand all of this jargon that you're using.  How could I view someone else's custom avatar unless I am somehow being sent data from that user?
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2013, 02:27:18 am »
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Looks like they're stored at http://dom.retrobox.eu/

The extension uploads your custom image to that site, and reads other people's image.  This has nothing to do with Goko.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 02:33:44 am »
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Of course you need the extension to see custom imgages, everything else would be a massive design and security flaw on goko's side.

This comment has made me even less sure whether you need the extension or not.
Never would have expected that.


But seriously, how does this avatar thing can work at all?  I have not looked at the code of neither the extensions nor goko, but...
First, standard goko.  You are loading goko.com.  This website tells your browser to look for an image at a specific place also at goko.com.   There is no way for someone not working at goko to change the images that are  stored at this place.*
What can the extension do? It changes your browser.  When goko wants to tell your browser to look for avatar images at goko.com, the extension tells your browser to not listen and to look for the images somewhere else.  That's where the custom avatars are stored.

* Of course, excluding hacking their website.  But if you could do this, the sensible way is not to use it to let other people upload custom avatars, but to insert some code that steals credit card information of the users.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 02:41:30 am »
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Yeah, the custom avatars are entirely the extension, not goko. Goko still has the limited selection of avatars with the cartoony knights.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2013, 02:43:42 am »
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Yeah, the custom avatars are entirely the extension, not goko. Goko still has the limited selection of avatars with the cartoony knights.

Which is, let's be honest, the real atrocity here.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2013, 02:53:24 am »
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In which case, I don't see why Goko should care, it isn't their product, their fault, or their problem.
People may install the extension, be bothered, not realize it's the extension allowing it and not Goko itself, and complain directly to Goko. If Goko feels it's giving them a bad image, then they would care.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2013, 03:27:16 am »
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Yeah, the custom avatars are entirely the extension, not goko. Goko still has the limited selection of avatars with the cartoony knights.

Which is, let's be honest, the real atrocity here.

If Goko allowed custom avatars, then they would have to commit extra resources to deal with the problem that is the topic of this thread.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2013, 03:29:44 am »
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Yeah, the custom avatars are entirely the extension, not goko. Goko still has the limited selection of avatars with the cartoony knights.

Which is, let's be honest, the real atrocity here.

If Goko allowed custom avatars, then they would have to commit extra resources to deal with the problem that is the topic of this thread.

They don't have to allow custom avatars. Literally anything but the knights would be preferable. I mean, it's a totally minor issue that they probably shouldn't spend time on in the grand scheme of things, but I still hate them.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2013, 03:51:47 am »
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There are far worse usernames floating around than the avatar you describe and Goko seems okay with it.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2013, 09:14:03 am »
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I would dispute the use of the word "pornography" here, especially to non-Americans; the picture being used is no worse than what one would find in a PG-13 movie or on Page 3 of the Sun (or similar pages in most European and S. American newspapers).

That said, a warning at the download page of "Use this at your own risk, some people abuse the pictures and here's how to blacklist them" would be in order.  Is there anywhere to download these other than from the page on this website?

Note:  Vermilion (forum name)/BTard (Goko name) is still a jerk for doing this and using his standard game name.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2013, 10:01:32 am »
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This doesn't really seem like it has to do with Goko at all.  It's not even like they have any control over it.  I would just suggest that the extension author makes clear that people could be using inappropriate images as their avatars.

It would be like if you guys all agreed to use Google Glass, and then all installed a certain app that replaced all the pictures in NYTimes with any random image selected by other users, and then complained to the NYT about it.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2013, 04:47:04 pm »
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A problem might arise if Goko decide that they want to ban the use of an extension that allows custom avatars on top of the officially-sanctioned ones, based on this.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2013, 04:48:57 pm »
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A problem might arise if Goko decide that they want to ban the use of an extension that allows custom avatars on top of the officially-sanctioned ones, based on this.

Not only might they do this, I assume they will do this.
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Re: Goko Gives Us Something Isotropic Never Did: Pornography
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2013, 05:01:39 pm »
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A problem might arise if Goko decide that they want to ban the use of an extension that allows custom avatars on top of the officially-sanctioned ones, based on this.

Can they actually ban it, though? I'm not sure that's possible.
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