Topic: Room 25 II - Prisoners win! (Read 36028 times)

theorel · « **Reply #350 on:** August 28, 2013, 07:54:24 am »

Okay, actually, I kind of like the following plan, but obviously both hyramgraff and liopoil would need to be on board for it:

hyram controls 5 right, I control A up.
hyram looks in A5 (currently A1), and liopoil moves into whichever of D5 and E4 is "safe".

I think this requires minimal trust, and gets good use out of our turns.

If hyram doesn't move 5 right, then liopoil can move to the vision chamber.
If I don't move A up, hyram wastes an action.
If hyram doesn't look in A5, he could move into my space, and then I act before him and besides I'd be surrounded by empty/safe rooms.
liopoil is forced to move into D5 or E4 which could be trapped/acid bath.

liopoil goes first next round, so he can move into the vision chamber then.

Let's see, analyzing the situation where I'm a guard...
if I didn't move A up, I'd have 2 actions that I could use to mess things up...
If E4 is an acid bath, AND I control 4 left, I could move into the acid bath and kill liopoil.

So, if E4 is an acid bath, hyramgraff should not go through with this. Otherwise though, I think it would work.

What's nice about this is, if hyram's a guard we reveal room E4 which might be an unannounced Room 25 (that would mean he wouldn't go along with it though).
If liopoil's a guard we might be forcing him to reveal C5, since E4 could be the mortal chamber.

Otherwise, this is essentially the same as hyram moving into the vision chamber and looking at A1.

liopoil · « **Reply #351 on:** August 28, 2013, 08:46:26 am »

I can move into E4

hyramgraff · « **Reply #352 on:** August 28, 2013, 05:55:05 pm »

Quote from: theorel on August 28, 2013, 07:54:24 am

Okay, actually, I kind of like the following plan, but obviously both hyramgraff and liopoil would need to be on board for it:

hyram controls 5 right, I control A up.
hyram looks in A5 (currently A1), and liopoil moves into whichever of D5 and E4 is "safe".

I think this requires minimal trust, and gets good use out of our turns.

If hyram doesn't move 5 right, then liopoil can move to the vision chamber.
If I don't move A up, hyram wastes an action.
If hyram doesn't look in A5, he could move into my space, and then I act before him and besides I'd be surrounded by empty/safe rooms.
liopoil is forced to move into D5 or E4 which could be trapped/acid bath.

liopoil goes first next round, so he can move into the vision chamber then.

Let's see, analyzing the situation where I'm a guard...
if I didn't move A up, I'd have 2 actions that I could use to mess things up...
If E4 is an acid bath, AND I control 4 left, I could move into the acid bath and kill liopoil.

So, if E4 is an acid bath, hyramgraff should not go through with this. Otherwise though, I think it would work.

What's nice about this is, if hyram's a guard we reveal room E4 which might be an unannounced Room 25 (that would mean he wouldn't go along with it though).
If liopoil's a guard we might be forcing him to reveal C5, since E4 could be the mortal chamber.

Otherwise, this is essentially the same as hyram moving into the vision chamber and looking at A1.

I'm not on board with this plan. Mostly because E4 is red.

liopoil · « **Reply #353 on:** August 28, 2013, 06:08:54 pm »

I don't care - I know it won't kill me.

Kuildeous · « **Reply #354 on:** August 29, 2013, 08:27:47 am »

Welcome back, audience. We still have two mangled and charred corpses out there. How's that for motivation!

Hyramgraff goes first. He throws a few levers and shifts his row left.

Liopoil is shivering in that room. He has an action programmed. Does he wish to execute it now or later? And if now, then what is the target of his action, if any?

liopoil · « **Reply #355 on:** August 29, 2013, 08:39:02 am »

Prediction: hyramgraff=guard, E4=room 25. anyway, I don't use my move yet.

Kuildeous · « **Reply #356 on:** August 29, 2013, 09:11:52 am »

So, so cold. It's so cold that liopoil doesn't do anything until the next action.

Mail-mi is nice and warm in that acid bath, though. Those fumes clear the sinuses right up! However, it looks like mail-mi is tired of breathing all that in and is on the move. Where does he move to?

mail-mi · « **Reply #357 on:** August 29, 2013, 09:18:25 am »

To D2, my fine enemy.

Kuildeous · « **Reply #358 on:** August 29, 2013, 09:37:06 am »

Oh good, mail-mi can breathe more easily—literally.

It's Theorel's turn. Looks like he's going to shake the cube up a bit. What's he shifting?

theorel · « **Reply #359 on:** August 29, 2013, 09:21:16 pm »

Control A up

Kuildeous · « **Reply #360 on:** August 29, 2013, 11:12:35 pm »

That happens. Now hyramgraff makes his move. Where to?

hyramgraff · « **Reply #361 on:** August 30, 2013, 10:08:59 am »

Move to D4, look at A5.

Kuildeous · « **Reply #362 on:** August 30, 2013, 11:42:08 am »

Hyramgraff moves into the vision chamber and looks at another room.

Now liopoil can finally move out of that cold chamber. Where do you move to, liopoil?

liopoil · « **Reply #363 on:** August 30, 2013, 12:24:48 pm »

Move: C4

mail-mi · « **Reply #364 on:** August 30, 2013, 01:01:24 pm »

look: C2

Kuildeous · « **Reply #365 on:** August 30, 2013, 02:22:42 pm »

We had a move and a look.

Theorel gets to move now.

theorel · « **Reply #366 on:** August 30, 2013, 03:10:05 pm »

Move A4

Okay, so we've seen everything now...
Anyone seen our exit?

theorel · « **Reply #367 on:** August 30, 2013, 03:19:22 pm »

And, if everyone claims to have NOT seen an exit, then I'm clearly a prisoner (since I've seen none of the rooms...I'm not the liar).

In that case...I think we should have everyone claim room colors to help figure out who's lying.

Kuildeous · « **Reply #368 on:** August 30, 2013, 03:40:18 pm »

Theorel made his move.

Time to program for Turn -3 now. You have three turns to find Room 25 and move it out of the complex with all three of you in it.

liopoil · « **Reply #369 on:** August 30, 2013, 04:24:33 pm »

okay, I don't think anyone should program anything until we've all agreed on a plan at least for this round. let's figure this thing out.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #370 on:** August 30, 2013, 04:43:59 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on August 30, 2013, 04:24:33 pm

okay, I don't think anyone should program anything until we've all agreed on a plan at least for this round. let's figure this thing out.

Now there's a plan I can agree with.

A5 is yellow.

hyramgraff · « **Reply #371 on:** August 30, 2013, 04:46:33 pm »

Quote from: theorel on August 30, 2013, 03:10:05 pm

Move A4

Okay, so we've seen everything now...
Anyone seen our exit?

That's a known flooded chamber, you shouldn't be able to move there.

Kuildeous · « **Reply #372 on:** August 30, 2013, 07:08:37 pm »

Quote from: hyramgraff on August 30, 2013, 04:46:33 pm

Quote from: theorel on August 30, 2013, 03:10:05 pm
Move A4

Okay, so we've seen everything now...
Anyone seen our exit?

That's a known flooded chamber, you shouldn't be able to move there.

Apologies. I should have caught that.

Hyramgraff is correct. That chamber is locked. You need to choose A2 or B3. At least neither of those will kill you.

Kuildeous · « **Reply #373 on:** August 30, 2013, 07:09:34 pm »

[The nice thing about D&D is that if the party gets wiped, the adventure can continue in the afterlife. *grin*]

theorel · « **Reply #374 on:** August 30, 2013, 09:04:20 pm »

Oh, good call...I'll Move A2 (Swap pending...)
(I didn't take into account that hyramgraff had controlled 5 left)

Are people willing to discuss colors of things they've seen before I swap, or are you all determined to wait?
(if you're willing to discuss, then we can know either where Room 25 supposedly is or at least have some idea of who might be lying...and I could swap accordingly)

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