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[Kuildeous]

Liopoil moves into a seemingly innocuous room. Oh, no, it's a cold room! So cold. Brr! Though, one has to wonder just how awesome our illusions are to not feel that one coming.

It is time for mail-mi to act. He is shifting something. What is he going to shift and in which direction? He can shift row 2 in either direction, but he could only shift column E down this turn.

[hyramgraff]

ugh.  Move: D5, switch with A4

You had the choice of moving into an empty room or a cold chamber and you chose the cold chamber?!  Why?

[mail-mi]

Shoot I was gonna shift E up. Well, I guess I'll just shift 2 left.

[Kuildeous]

And row 2 moves over a little bit.

Time for theorel to make his move. Where does move to?

[theorel]

Move A4, switch E2

[Kuildeous]

And Theorel comes roaring through the door. Oh man, look at all those traps. Look at those flames shooting out. Man, this room looks nasty. No, wait, turns it the room is really empty, but man did those illusions look super scary!

And now it's hyramgraff's turn. He's going to take a look. There's only one option for him to look that is meaningful, so I'll jump to the chase on this one. He looks in E4.

Liopoil takes a look. Again, he has one option, so he looks in C5.

That takes us to mail-mi and the end of this round. Mail-mi moves somewhere. Where to?

[mail-mi]

Well shoot. I was not expecting E to move down. Are. C2 and D3 safe?

[theorel]

You can move through the Trapped Chamber if needed. (as long as you move as your first action next turn)

Let's see where we're at...
You can use the illusion chamber to swap with B1 (safe according to hyram and myself)
You know what's in E3 and whether that's safe.
liopoil claims D3 is not safe (red).
liopoil claims that C5 is not safe (red).

A1, C2, and E4 are complete unknowns.


X R N T A
O F X E I
M E C ? ?
E D E V X
E F ? O E

B1=red-not instant death-according to theorel/hyramgraff
E3=mail-mi has looked here
D3=liopoil has looked here (This is supposedly red)
C5=liopoil has looked here (He refuses to comment on color, but says it's bad)

[theorel]

Oh, hyramgraff just looked in E4.

[mail-mi]

I think I'll move to E2 and swap with B1.

[hyramgraff]

Oh, hyramgraff just looked in E4.

Yes, I can't decide if I should reveal the color because there is still one guard.  I will say that it's not green.

[Kuildeous]

Mail-mi enters the mysterious chamber. Aw, look, flowers and bunnies. How sweet. Oh, look at how everything melts. Wait, this is not the Disney Enchanted Forest Chamber. It's an Acid Bath. Better hope nobody else enters this room while mail-mi is in it.

And that concludes turn -5. We'll be back after this short commercial break.

Meanwhile, time for our contestants to program turn -4. Time is running out, and Room 25 is still hidden away. Did I even add that to the shuffle? Find out after a word from our sponsors.

[Kuildeous]

And a couple of reminders…

Hyramgraff goes first this turn, so please include the target of your first action.

Liopoil can only program one action this turn.

[theorel]

@hyramgraff: kudos for not obviously lying about the color of the room, since there are no green rooms left


X I N T A
O F X E B
M E C ? ?
E D E V ?
E F ? O E

E3=mail-mi has looked here (no info given)
E4=hyramgraff has looked here (no info given)
D3=liopoil has looked here (This is supposedly red)
C5=liopoil has looked here (He refuses to comment on color, but says we should *NOT* go there)

Rooms Left:
1 Acid Bath
1 Mortal Chamber
1 Trapped Chamber
1 Vortex Room
Room 25

I'm most suspicious of liopoil at the moment only because of his unwillingness to comment on C5.  If C5 is Room 25 then he might would say these kinds of things as a guard.  He would also say them if C5 is a vortex room or Mortal Chamber and he were trying to WIFOM us.  He might do it as a prisoner to try to WIFOM the guard?

So, we know very little about where room 25 is.  All of the question marks are unconfirmed locations (i.e. seen by only one player), and the X's are completely unseen.  We have 4 turns left to get everyone into room 25?  We might need to consider how we can get everyone in there once we find it even.

[liopoil]

It's red, the worst red. I was trying to not tell the guard, but oh well, that didn't work out.

[theorel]

Oh, hey there's a Dark Room somewhere too.  I left that one out.

@hyramgraff/mail-mi, maybe after programming moves, you could both share the color of your rooms?

[mail-mi]

I'm looking in C2 to check for room 25. Because of controlling, it might be there.

[hyramgraff]

I'm thinking that I'll head for the vision room, but to reach there this round I'll need to program a control as my first action.

[liopoil]

me too - control up, not sideways.

[theorel]

(non-guard) hyramgraff should obviously not go into the vision chamber if liopoil is going to be there, because liopoil goes before him next round.  This means liopoil should not expect to go into the vision room this turn (since hyram goes first)

[liopoil]

it will take hyramgraff two turns to get there, it will only take me one.

[theorel]

It will take hyram 2 actions = 1 turn to get there, it will take you 1 action=1 turn to get there.

Those are the same.

[liopoil]

well, okay, but I will get there first. besides, where else can I go?

[theorel]

Regardless of how he moves row 5 the position above you will be safe, unless the position to your left is currently safe.

There is only one hidden place left on the board that kills you instantly all others give you at least 1 action to escape.

If hyram controls E up, it's safe for a non-guard liopoil to move to the vision chamber because you get to move OUT before hyram can do anything to you.
But that's NOT safe for a non-guard hyram, so if he's not a guard (or concealing his guardiness) he shouldn't do that in the first place, which takes us back to the top.

[theorel]

I would prefer hyramgraff to use the vision chamber, because it would be nice to have a balance in the number of rooms looked at and unrevealed, and you currently have the most.  If hyramgraff has an option that lets him look at a room without moving to the vision chamber I prefer that (i.e. if there's a vortex room above him), but otherwise I'd rather hyram see 1 room than liopoil see 1 room.