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[Galzria]

If you want spectator QT access, send me a PM!!!

The powers are:

Austria: Grujah
England: TwistedArcher
France: Chairs
Germany: nkirbit
Italy: WalrusMcFishSR
Russia:  Liopoil
Turkey: Jack Rudd

The Players Are:

#1. TwistedArcher
#2. Liopoil
#3. Jack Rudd
#4. WalrusMcFishSR
#5. Chairs
#6. Grujah
#7. nkirbit

The starting board is below, see the opening post for some cool Diplomacy resources and tools.

Please send me the moves by PM before the deadline (I will try to be strict yet kind, a difficult and narrow path to walk). 

First deadline is To Be Determined. Deadlines will be 3 Days for Spring/Fall Orders, 24 Hours for Winter Builds (I will aim to keep retreats within the flow of the 7 day cycle). (Early submissions allowed and encouraged; if you change your mind at any time, new moves will be accepted up until I have posted the updated map)

Links

• Diplomacy Official Rulebook
• Quick Teaching Guide
• jDip, a great tool for testing move ideas and making sure they're legal.
• Map for Printing

Current state: (Spring 1900)


Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             3 centers
Germany:          3 center
Italy:                3 centers
Russia:            4 centers
Turkey:            3 centers

[Twistedarcher]

In. Is power selection random?

[Galzria]

In. Is power selection random?

Yes

[Twistedarcher]

In. Is power selection random?

Yes

Boo! The max entropy selection of powers is so much fun

Oh and you have Russia listed as only 3 scs instead of 4

[liopoil]

/in!

so weird seeing all those silly neutral centers on that map.

[Jack Rudd]

Oooh. May I join?

[Galzria]

/in!

so weird seeing all those silly neutral centers on that map.

It's so weird seeing other colors besides Yellow, Blue (light/dark) and a spot of Black.

[Galzria]

Oooh. May I join?

Mhmm, of course!

[liopoil]

green and white aren't too unfamiliar, it's the red that's super out of place.

[liopoil]

this could fill really fast. grujah and shraeye probably want to play, then just two spots left and 4 people who were in last game who might want to play.

[Archetype]

Hmm I've heard good things about this. I'll read the rules and get back to you.

[Galzria]

Yeah, Shraeye definitely has priority over any other repeat player since he hosted the last.

The others though, they're on their own. However, I'll happily run two games if we have the interest for it - although I don't know if we do. Filling Dip2 took a long time. We've grown though, so I'll happily be wrong!

[liopoil]

I still don't understand all the edge cases of the rules. There's some complicated convoy/support rules...

[Galzria]

That reminds me, I should post my QT link in Dip2 with Jimmm, because he and I discussed some edge-cases (well, kind of. But you saw an example RE: Berlin in the final year).

[Archetype]

Yeah, I'm probably not going to /in. I think I'm going to need to watch a game before I can play.

But there are two completed ones...naw, I'll just watch how this one plays out.

[shraeye]

Please send me the moves by PM before the deadline (I will try to be strict yet kind, a difficult and narrow path to walk). 

This path is really really tough to walk.

[Galzria]

Please send me the moves by PM before the deadline (I will try to be strict yet kind, a difficult and narrow path to walk). 

This path is really really tough to walk.

[shraeye]

I still don't understand all the edge cases of the rules. There's some complicated convoy/support rules...

just ask me.  I'm a rules expert, and I swear () that I'll tell you the truth.

[Galzria]

I still don't understand all the edge cases of the rules. There's some complicated convoy/support rules...

just ask me.  I'm a rules expert, and I swear () that I'll tell you the truth.

Yes, but will you be telling him from a position of adversarial opposition or not?

[shraeye]

That reminds me, I should post my QT link in Dip2 with Jimmm, because he and I discussed some edge-cases (well, kind of. But you saw an example RE: Berlin in the final year).

I was looking at things for a while trying to see if there was a way for people to rally against Galz in the last game, and hold him at 17 centers, even if Germany decided to gift Warsaw to the Turkish Empire.  I think there was, but I'm not a complete expert in stalemate lines.

[shraeye]

I still don't understand all the edge cases of the rules. There's some complicated convoy/support rules...

just ask me.  I'm a rules expert, and I swear () that I'll tell you the truth.

Yes, but will you be telling him from a position of adversarial opposition or not?

unknown.  I gotta look at my availability in the upcoming months.

[Galzria]

That reminds me, I should post my QT link in Dip2 with Jimmm, because he and I discussed some edge-cases (well, kind of. But you saw an example RE: Berlin in the final year).

I was looking at things for a while trying to see if there was a way for people to rally against Galz in the last game, and hold him at 17 centers, even if Germany decided to gift Warsaw to the Turkish Empire.  I think there was, but I'm not a complete expert in stalemate lines.

I'm familiar with that line... and it might have been possible, but it was going to be tough if it was - only because I had a troop positioning advantage at that point. England was too Fleet heavy to hold it - I *think*.

[Twistedarcher]

this could fill really fast. grujah and shraeye probably want to play, then just two spots left and 4 people who were in last game who might want to play.

We could always play modern!

Has anyone played other variants extensively?

[Galzria]

this could fill really fast. grujah and shraeye probably want to play, then just two spots left and 4 people who were in last game who might want to play.

We could always play modern!

Has anyone played other variants extensively?

I've personally always been a classic player. However JDIP supports many different varieties.

[Jack Rudd]

this could fill really fast. grujah and shraeye probably want to play, then just two spots left and 4 people who were in last game who might want to play.

We could always play modern!

Has anyone played other variants extensively?

I've played a few. Cambridge University Diplomacy Society got a variable number of players to its weekly meetings, so many variants were played.

Behold the variant I created.

[Galzria]

this could fill really fast. grujah and shraeye probably want to play, then just two spots left and 4 people who were in last game who might want to play.

We could always play modern!

Has anyone played other variants extensively?

I've personally always been a classic player. However JDIP supports many different varieties.

However x2: I still plan on running this one Classic.

[shraeye]

Nifty, you've written for the pouch, Jack?

[Twistedarcher]

Jack, that's a hugeee map and I don't want to think about how long it would take -- but it looks fun! It says no playtesting in the article -- how many times did you get to play it?

[Jack Rudd]

Jack, that's a hugeee map and I don't want to think about how long it would take -- but it looks fun! It says no playtesting in the article -- how many times did you get to play it?

A couple of times. It proved to be a bit unbalanced, and I made a second version, but I have since lost the second version.

[Grujah]

Please be more ruthless with deadlines with shra and don't accept lates! 


/in, but as I played 2 already, put me as "player 8", i'll jump in if we need 7th but will give my spot to a new guy if it comes to that.

[liopoil]

wow, looks like you guys actually have played this a lot. That most recent game was my first game of diplomacy, but since I've played a few games on http://www.playdiplomacy.com/ . I haven't played any variants.

There was a chance for a stalemate line if Germany helped us. That's kinda funny; right now I'm in a game (on the above site) where I'm germany and leading a stalemate line that we've been working on for a long time against a threatening italy.

[Twistedarcher]

Playdiplomacy.com is okay in terms of finding games, but my favorite site to play on is dipbounced.com. The interface is a little harder to use, but once you're used to it it's not bad. The level of play and communication is much higher than what I've found on playdiplomacy, but unfortunately the site is dying

[shraeye]

For interfaces, I like playdiplomacyonline.com.  It's the cleanest interface I've seen, but the site is just starting to take off, so it's hard to get a full set of 7 players without one power (or more  ) just disappearing.

For quality of play, you gotta use the Email judge servers, where the old-school and serious hobby-players hang out.  http://usak.asciiking.com/

[Grujah]

That reminds me, I should post my QT link in Dip2 with Jimmm, because he and I discussed some edge-cases (well, kind of. But you saw an example RE: Berlin in the final year).

I was looking at things for a while trying to see if there was a way for people to rally against Galz in the last game, and hold him at 17 centers, even if Germany decided to gift Warsaw to the Turkish Empire.  I think there was, but I'm not a complete expert in stalemate lines.

I'm familiar with that line... and it might have been possible, but it was going to be tough if it was - only because I had a troop positioning advantage at that point. England was too Fleet heavy to hold it - I *think*.

Imo, I kinda lost when I given away moscow stupidly, I could have hold it for quite longer.

[Galzria]

Bump. Need 3 more still.

[liopoil]

bump! is shraeye playing? he should!

I see why you guys prefer those other sites. I'm playing a game with a really bad russia that is really swinging the game. We've tried to show him the error in his ways but won't listen. Normally players like this would just get killed off, but nobody can afford to fight him right now, so he's sitting at 6 centers.

[Galzria]

Bump. Need 3 more still.

Bump2! C'moooooon! I want to see who's next in line to rule the world!

[liopoil]

bump#4

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Hey, I love Diplomacy!  Didn't see this because it is so far down, but Twisted Archer pointed it out.

/in

[liopoil]

awesome!

[Davio]

this could fill really fast. grujah and shraeye probably want to play, then just two spots left and 4 people who were in last game who might want to play.

We could always play modern!

Has anyone played other variants extensively?

Any of the other maps in jDip looked interesting, just because it would take experienced players out of their comfort zones.

[Twistedarcher]

/out, Sorry. Forum games are taking up too much time.

[Galzria]

/out, Sorry. Forum games are taking up too much time.

Heh, they do that. Moderation my friend. I still play, but I pick and choose much more carefully than I used to.

I'll take your /out for now, but if it starts to look like this might be launchable in the future (a few more sign up), I'll see if you want back in.

[chairs]

/tag.

I'm trying to find another copy of the rulebook, the one on their website seems to be corrupted (or adobe sucks).  I get the basic idea, but I don't understand all the move details - particularly convoy - and I didn't get to the part re: building stuff in winter.

[liopoil]

oh you don't need to bother with convoying, it's never a good idea, especially if you're england.

[nkirbit]

/tag.

I'm trying to find another copy of the rulebook, the one on their website seems to be corrupted (or adobe sucks).  I get the basic idea, but I don't understand all the move details - particularly convoy - and I didn't get to the part re: building stuff in winter.

So for convoying, your moving a land unit across water via a ship.  So, say, if you're england and had an army in London, a fleet in the English channel, and wanted to move your army to belgium, you would order:

Army London - Belgium
Fleet English Channel Convoy London - Belgium.
(Edited, thanks Shraeye).

Your fleet "stays in place" and transports the ground unit along it.

This movement has the same conditions to be resolved as a normal move.. for example, if a german unit were to also move into belgium, the move would bounce and your army would stay in london.  You can support the move into Belgium from a fleet in the north sea, for instance, to provide it further support like you would a normal move.

The one difference is that if a convoying fleet is forced to retreat, the convoy does not go through.  So if your fleet in the English channel was attacked by two french fleets, the move to belgium would not go through, even if no one else moved to belgium.

Any other questions about it?  Or does that clear it up?

[shraeye]

Army London - English Channel - Belgium
Fleet English Channel Convoy London - Belgium.

You only need to specify the convoy path if you are using one of the email judges (USAK, for example).


As far as I know, the current version of the rules allows for ambiguous convoys which will then only be disrupted if both convoying fleets are dislodged. (nkirbit pointed this out, but it's a common mistake to think that you can 'cut' a convoy like you can a support; the convoy will go through unless the fleet is dislodged)

[nkirbit]

Army London - English Channel - Belgium
Fleet English Channel Convoy London - Belgium.

You only need to specify the convoy path if you are using one of the email judges (USAK, for example).


As far as I know, the current version of the rules allows for ambiguous convoys which will then only be disrupted if both convoying fleets are dislodged. (nkirbit pointed this out, but it's a common mistake to think that you can 'cut' a convoy like you can a support; the convoy will go through unless the fleet is dislodged)

Woah, really?  I did not know that.  Cool, thanks.

[chairs]

I recently played some GoT which is basically diplomacy easy-modo.

I'm willing to give this a go, but be ready to yell at me a  lot.

/in

[Galzria]

That leaves us one down if Twisted decides to play. Two if not. Plus Grujah needs to be dragged back in here.

[Grujah]

I am in.

[Twistedarcher]

my mafia commitment is pretty light at the moment, so I'll play now

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I just can't see myself playing competently with both LOTR2 and Doctor Who starting and Harry Potter ongoing.  If this is going to start in the next day or two due to boredom, I'm going to have to

/out.

But I'm totally back in once my mafia commitment dies down.

[Galzria]

I just can't see myself playing competently with both LOTR2 and Doctor Who starting and Harry Potter ongoing.  If this is going to start in the next day or two due to boredom, I'm going to have to

/out.

But I'm totally back in once my mafia commitment dies down.

Given how long we go between sign ups...

I think it'll still be a short time until we launch. Still, that puts us at 1-2 more depending on timing.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Yo I am totally all about Diplomacy, although I haven't played in years. Is there still a slot available?

[shraeye]

get in there, son!

[Jimmmmm]

/tag. Go Germany!

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I always root for Italy.  Gotta love an underdog.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Alright /in then!

[Galzria]

With Umbrage out, we still need one more after I update with Walrus in.

[nkirbit]

I'll play!

This is going to be the peak of my forum games.  This is the last one!

[Galzria]

That will make us full then! I'll setup QT's and produce the board this afternoon, and then give us an "official" start time of 12:00 am forum time (although you'll get this afternoon/evening as extra plotting time).

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I don't suppose a spectator QT could work with this?

[Galzria]

I don't suppose a spectator QT could work with this?

I'll create one as well. Shraeye will want it as well so he can comment on various moves.

[liopoil]

Wow, it finally filled! country assignement time? I'd like turkey please, he seems to usually do well

[Galzria]

Wow, it finally filled! country assignement time? I'd like turkey please, he seems to usually do well

Program is on my PC, and I'm on mobile right now. But I'll have it up by... 5:00 PM forum at the latest.

[Grujah]

I'll be VLA 11-18. I'll be albe to put in moves though, I hope.

[Galzria]

The powers are:

Austria: Grujah
England: TwistedArcher
France: Chairs
Germany: nkirbit
Italy: WalrusMcFishSR
Russia:  Liopoil
Turkey: Jack Rudd

The Players Are:

#1. TwistedArcher
#2. Liopoil
#3. Jack Rudd
#4. WalrusMcFishSR
#5. Chairs
#6. Grujah
#7. nkirbit

The starting board is below, see the opening post for some cool Diplomacy resources and tools.

Please send me the moves by PM before the deadline (I will try to be strict yet kind, a difficult and narrow path to walk). 

First deadline is 8/12, 12:00 am Forum Time. Deadlines will be 3 Days for Spring/Fall Orders, 24 Hours for Winter Builds (I will aim to keep retreats within the flow of the 7 day cycle). (Early submissions allowed and encouraged; if you change your mind at any time, new moves will be accepted up until I have posted the updated map)

Current state: (Spring 1901)


Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             3 centers
Germany:          3 center
Italy:                3 centers
Russia:            4 centers
Turkey:            3 centers

[Galzria]

The game has begun. PM's with QT's are out.

First deadline is 8/12, 12:00 am Forum Time. Deadlines will be 3 Days for Spring/Fall Orders, 24 Hours for Winter Builds (I will aim to keep retreats within the flow of the 7 day cycle). (Early submissions allowed and encouraged; if you change your mind at any time, new moves will be accepted up until I have posted the updated map)

[chairs]

I'm so excited!  I look forward to mutually agreeable outcomes with everyone, as much as possible.

[Twistedarcher]

I'm so excited!  I look forward to mutually agreeable outcomes with everyone, as much as possible.

...says the guy holding the knife....

[chairs]

I'm so excited!  I look forward to mutually agreeable outcomes with everyone, as much as possible.

...says the guy holding the knife....

Let's face it, we're all holding knives.  I choose, however, to believe that we can for the most part come to mutually beneficial opportunities.

[nkirbit]

I'm so excited!  I look forward to mutually agreeable outcomes with everyone, as much as possible.

...says the guy holding the knife....

Let's face it, we're all holding knives.  I choose, however, to believe that we can for the most part come to mutually beneficial opportunities.

Mutually beneficial for all the German people, I agree.

[liopoil]

Hey guys, I'm winning!  (although maybe I shouldn't tell you that - everyone will team up on me!

[XerxesPraelor]

I saw this said sign-ups are open, but from reading the thread, I think it's misleading. could you change that? (If there are spots left, I'd like to join)

[Galzria]

Weird, I did modify the title... must not have posted through. I'll change it, yes.

[Galzria]

Deadline is tonight at midnight. ~12 Hours left. If you haven't already, make sure you get those orders in. If you have and wish to change, get those corrections to me as well. If you're content with what you've got, feel free to ignore the rambling mod.

[Galzria]

Deadline has just passed. I will have the update a bit later tonight when I'm on a PC.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Spring 1901:

Italy: Walrus
F Nap -> ION
A Rom -> Apu
A Ven holds

Austria: Grujah
F tri -> alb
A vie -> bud
A bud -> ser

Turkey: Jack Rudd
A Con -> Bul
F Ank -> Con
A Smy -> Ank

England: TwistedArcher
F Lon -> Nth
F Edi -> Nwg
A Lvp -> Yor

Russia: Liopoil
F stp -> BOT
F sev -> BLA
A mos -> stp
A war -> ukr

Germany: nkirbit
F Kie -> Den
A Ber -> Kie
A Mun -> Ruh

France: Chairs
A Par -> Pic
A Mar -> Spa
F Bre -> MAO

Spring Moves:


Current Game State, Fall 1901:


Deadline for Fall Orders will be 12:00 am forum time, August 15th

Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             3 centers
Germany:          3 center
Italy:                3 centers
Russia:            4 centers
Turkey:            3 centers

[Galzria]

As this wasn't specifically mentioned in the opening post: If you want a QT set up that contains more than just yourself and one other power, just ask me in any QT and I'll be happy to create it and provide it to all involved parties.

[Galzria]

Added edit in most recent gamestate post to include the jdip file for anybody that wants to play around with the movements.

[hyramgraff]

/tag

[Galzria]

Deadline is tonight in just about 6 1/2 hours.

I expect that I'll be home a little bit later than that, but cutoff on orders will stand at midnight, so get them in if you haven't already.

I'll process the orders and we'll begin Retreats/Winter all day tomorrow.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Fall 1901:

Italy: Walrus
A Ven holds
A Apu -> Tun
F ION c A Apu -> Tun

Austria: Grujah
F alb - gre
A ser s F alb -> gre
A bud s A ukr -> rum

Turkey: Jack Rudd
A Bul -> Rum
F Con -> BLA
A Ank -> Arm

England: TwistedArcher
Nth c yor -> bel
A Yor -> bel
Nwg -> nor

Russia: Liopoil
F BOT -> swe
A stp -> norway
A ukr -> rum
F BLA -> ank

Germany: nkirbit
Den -> Nth 
Kie -> Hol 
Ruh S Pic -> Bel

France: Chairs
F MAO - IRI
A PIC - BEL
A SPA - POR

Spring Moves:


Current Game State, Winter 1901:


Deadline for Winter Orders will be 12:00 am forum time, August 16th

Total Centers:
Austria:             5 centers (2 Builds)
England:           3 centers (0 Builds)
France:             5 centers (2 Builds)
Germany:          5 center (2 Builds)
Italy:                4 centers (1 Build)
Russia:            7 centers (3 Builds)
Turkey:            3 centers (0 Builds)

[Twistedarcher]

That's not good

[chairs]

Interesting.

[hyramgraff]

It look like nobody wants England and Turkey to be the powerhouses two games in a row.

[Galzria]

3 hours to build deadline. If you haven't gotten me your orders, get them in soon!

[Galzria]

I'm late, I know. Slow mod is slow. But I've got a perfectly good excuse!: I'm perhaps more than a little drunk... and I got myself wrapped up watching Pulp Fiction (how could I NOT watch it once I noticed it was on?).

I'll update in a little bit. All moves are in, so it's just me now.

[Galzria]

Build Results, Winter 1901:

Italy: Walrus
Build F nap

Austria: Grujah
Build F in tri
Build A in vie

Turkey: Jack Rudd
---

England: TwistedArcher
---

Russia: Liopoil
Build F sev
Build A war
Build A mos

Germany: nkirbit
Build F kie
Build A mun

France: Chairs
Build F bre
Build A par

1901 Winter Builds:


Current Game State, Spring, 1902:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 12:00 am forum time, August 19th

Total Centers:
Austria:             5 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             5 centers
Germany:          5 center
Italy:                4 centers
Russia:            7 centers
Turkey:            3 centers

[Galzria]

At a ball game tonight. I'll update when I get home. Deadline is still in 4 hours.

[shraeye]

At a ball game tonight. I'll update when I get home. Deadline is still in 4 hours.

Giants??!?

[Galzria]

At a ball game tonight. I'll update when I get home. Deadline is still in 4 hours.

Giants??!?

San Jose High Class A affiliate.

San Francisco lost in Miami already today.

[shraeye]

At a ball game tonight. I'll update when I get home. Deadline is still in 4 hours.

Giants??!?

San Jose High Class A affiliate.

San Francisco lost in Miami already today.

Aha, I don't get to catch weekend games much, pretty busy.

[Galzria]

As I have not received orders from all players, I will be extending this deadline by 24 hours. However, this isn't fair to the players who DO make deadline, so I would like for this to not be a consistent issue. Since it's the first time, I'm willing to let it slide by (see trying to be lenient in the OP). Just make sure ya'll get them in by deadline in the future!

-- Should I not have the missing orders by midnight tomorrow, I will process any unordered units with a HOLD order.

[Galzria]

The confusion in deadline time was caused by our silly US system of time keeping. I'm going to retain this 24 hour delay for Spring '02, but in the future all deadlines will be moved to 1:00 am forum time instead of 12:00 am (so you gain an extra hour, and it's clear what time is intended for all parties.

The current Spring 1902 deadline is August 20th, 1:00 am forum time.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Spring 1902:

Italy: Walrus
A Ven Hold
A Tun Hold
F ION -> AEG
F Nap -> ION

Austria: Grujah
A ser -> bul
F gre S A ser -> bul
F tri -> alb
A bud -> ser
A vie -> bud

Turkey: Jack Rudd
F Bla -> Rom
A Bul S F Bla -> Rom
A Arm -> Sev

England: TwistedArcher
F Nwg -> Nth
F Nth -> Ska
A Yor -> Lvp

Russia: Liopoil
A stp -> nwy
F swe S stp -> nwy
A war -> ukr
A mos -> sev
A rum S mos -> sev
F sev -> BLA
F ank S sev -> BLA

Germany: nkirbit
Den -> Nth 
Kie -> Hel 
Ruh S Hol
A Hol Hold
A mun Hold

France: Chairs
A PAR -> BUR
F BRE -> ENG
A BEL HOLD
F IRI -> LVP
A POR -> SPA

1902 Spring Moves:


Current Game State, Spring, 1902 (Retreats):


Deadline for Spring Retreats will be 1:00 am forum time, August 21st

Retreats:

Turkey: Jack Rudd
Fleet in Black Sea
Army in Bulgaria

Total Centers:
Austria:             5 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             5 centers
Germany:          5 center
Italy:                4 centers
Russia:            7 centers
Turkey:            3 centers

[Jack Rudd]

Yuck. My fleet retreats to Constantinople.

[Galzria]

Fall Deadline is at 1:00 am, August 23rd (forum time). If a SET WAIT is ordered, I will delay the deadline until 1:00 am, August 24th.

Spring, 1902 Retreat Orders:

Turkey: Jack Rudd
Army in Bulgaria disbands
Fleet in Black Sea retreats to Constantinople

Current Gamestate, Fall, 1902:


Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             3 centers
Germany:          3 center
Italy:                3 centers
Russia:            4 centers
Turkey:            3 centers

[chairs]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to drop this game.  I'm very sorry, folks, but it appears that I just can't wrap my head around it.

[nkirbit]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to drop this game.  I'm very sorry, folks, but it appears that I just can't wrap my head around it.

You seem to be doing just fine so far, you're in pretty good shape just looking at the board

[shraeye]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to drop this game.  I'm very sorry, folks, but it appears that I just can't wrap my head around it.

please keep going;  I'm thoroughly entertained, and am discussing this game with a friend of mine also.

[Galzria]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to drop this game.  I'm very sorry, folks, but it appears that I just can't wrap my head around it.

You seem to be doing just fine so far, you're in pretty good shape just looking at the board

Indeed, you're not doing badly at all. If you have any questions about the game, don't be shy about PM'ing me and asking I'll be happy to explain anything you're having trouble with.

[shraeye]

I also have a full knowledge of all the rules, ambiguities, exceptions, and such.  I will be very sure not to comment on best choices or my preferences, but I will be very thorough and accurate on all rule-questions, and hypothetical-situation-resolving asked of me

[chairs]

Sorry, just having a bout of emotional weakness.

Nothing to see here, move along, etc etc.

[liopoil]

*wonders if it's all part of his grand scheme*

[Twistedarcher]

I agree, Chairs, you seem to have misunderstood this game.

You want to head for Germany. Or Italy. Or anyone else. But NOT England.

There's still time to right the ship, though.

[chairs]

I agree, Chairs, you seem to have misunderstood this game.

You want to head for Germany. Or Italy. Or anyone else. But NOT England.

There's still time to right the ship, though.

You don't mind if I take a quick detour to London for lunch, then, right?

[liopoil]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to drop this game.  I'm very sorry, folks, but it appears that I just can't wrap my head around it.

please keep going;  I'm thoroughly entertained, and am discussing this game with a friend of mine also.

can you see our QTs?

[Grujah]

I agree, Chairs, you seem to have misunderstood this game.

You want to head for Germany. Or Italy. Or anyone else. But NOT England.

There's still time to right the ship, though.

You don't mind if I take a quick detour to London for lunch, then, right?

They don't have lunch. Only tea.

[Galzria]

Friendly Reminder:

Deadline is in just under 12 hours. Make sure those moves are in.

[Galzria]

I am, to my knowledge, missing the orders of one more player. I'll extend the deadline 24 hours (or as soon as they're in) to accommodate, as that matches the "long" deadline time.

Nevermind, all in.

Nevermind x2. I lied. Still missing 1 player (I can't count after a few beers, apparently).

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Fall 1902:

Italy: Walrus
A Ven -> Apu
A Tun -> Con
F ION C A Tun -> Con
F AEG C A Tun -> Con

Austria: Grujah
A bul s A tun -> con
F gre s bul
A bud  -> rum
A ser s A bud rum
F alb s gre

Turkey: Jack Rudd
A Arm -> Ank
F Con S A Arm -> Ank

England: TwistedArcher
Yor -> Lvp
Ska -> Swe
Nwg -> Nor

Russia: Liopoil
F ank S tun -> con
F BLA S ank
A nwy S swe
F swe S nwy
A mos -> sev
A rum S mos -> sev
A ukr S rum

Germany: nkirbit
den -> swe 
hel -> nth 
hol S ruh -> bel 
ruh -> bel 
mun -> bur

France: Chairs
F IRI -> LVP
F ENG -> LON
A BUR -> PIC
A SPA HOLD
A BEL HOLD

1902 Fall Moves:


1902 Fall Retreats (Did automatically as there was only one location for Turkey to retreat to):


Current Gamestate, 1902 Winter Builds:


Deadline for Winter Builds will be 1:00 am forum time, August 25th

1902 Fall Retreats:

Turkey: Jack Rudd
Fleet in Con retreated to Smy

Total Centers:
Austria:             6 centers (1 Build)
England:           2 centers (1 Disband)
France:             6 centers (2 Builds)
Germany:          6 center (1 Build)
Italy:                5 centers (1 Build)
Russia:            8 centers (1 Build)
Turkey:            1 centers (1 Disband)

[liopoil]

france should have 2 builds. one unit got destroyed, he gained two centers, lost 1.

[Galzria]

france should have 2 builds. one unit got destroyed, he gained two centers, lost 1.

That's correct. France has 2 builds.

[Galzria]

2 1/2 Hours to deadline. Still missing builds from two people.

[Galzria]

I do have all orders in now, however I'm at work until 4:00pm forum time. I'll update as soon as I can.

[Galzria]

Build Results, Winter 1902:

Italy: Walrus
Build A Ven

Austria: Grujah
Build A Vie

Turkey: Jack Rudd
Disband A Arm

England: TwistedArcher
Disband A Yor

Russia: Liopoil
Build A war

Germany: nkirbit
build A mun

France: Chairs
Build F Bre
Build A Mar

1902 Winter Builds:


Current Game State, Spring, 1903:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, August 28th (24 hour extension upon request)

Total Centers:
Austria:             6 centers
England:           2 centers
France:             6 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                5 centers
Russia:            8 centers
Turkey:            1 centers

[Galzria]

The 24 hour extension has been requested. Deadline is at 1:00 am on the 29th

[Galzria]

Just got home from work. I'll update in a few.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Spring 1903:

Italy: Walrus
A Con -> Smy
F AEG S A Con -> Smy
F ION -> ADR
A Ven -> Pie
A Apu -> Ven

Austria: Grujah
A vie -> gal
A bud S A vie -> gal
F gre S A bul -> con Illegal Move
A bul -> con
A ser -> bul
F alb -> adr

Turkey: Jack Rudd
(No Order) - F smy H

England: TwistedArcher
F NWG -> Edi
F SKA -> NTH

Russia: Liopoil
A nwy S swe
F swe S nwy
F ank -> con
F BLA S rum
A sev S rum
A ukr S war -> gal
A rum S war -> gal
A war -> gal

Germany: nkirbit
Nth -> Edi 
Den H 
Bur -> Gas 
Bel -> Bur 
Hol -> Bel 
Mun -> Sil

France: Chairs
F IRI -> ENG
F lon S F SKA -> NTH
F bre -> pic
A pic -> par
A mar S A spa -> gas
A spa -> gas

1903 Spring Moves:


Current Game State,1903 Spring Retreats:


Deadline for Retreats will be 1:00 am forum time, August 30th

Retreats:

Turkey: Jack Rudd
F Smy R ??

Germany: nkirbit
F NTH R ??

Total Centers:
Austria:             6 centers
England:           2 centers
France:             6 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                5 centers
Russia:            8 centers
Turkey:            1 centers

[Jack Rudd]

Retreat to Eastern Med

[nkirbit]

Ska

[liopoil]

you can't do that, that's where TA's unit came from, and units can't switch spots in one season.

[Galzria]

England came in from Ska, so it's unavailable to retreat. Off the top of my head (will double check) the only place you can retreat to is Hel.

[Grujah]

Germany and England, you guys are idiots.

[liopoil]

he can retreat to yorkshire too...

I'll keep in mind that you wanted to go to ska though

[Galzria]

England came in from Ska, so it's unavailable to retreat. Off the top of my head (will double check) the only place you can retreat to is Hel.

Yor is also open.

[liopoil]

Germany and England, you guys are idiots.

I disagree

[Twistedarcher]

Germany and England, you guys are idiots.

Makes no difference who backstabs me, and seeing how France is the only one talking to me...*shrug*

[liopoil]

I'm trying to talk to you!

[Twistedarcher]

There's a very decent chance I missed a message among all the other quick topics I have....ill look again

[nkirbit]

Yeah England has also ignored my messages haha

[nkirbit]

Hel then

[Twistedarcher]

I blame all those survivor qts.

[Galzria]

I'll update in a bit (before I head to work), however...:

Germany: Nkirbit
F NTH R HEL

Turkey: Jack Rudd
F smy R EAS

-----

1903 Fall Deadline is at 1:00 am Forum time, September 1st (24 Hour extension available upon request)

[Galzria]

Order Results, Spring 1903 Retreats:

Italy: Walrus
---

Austria: Grujah
---

Turkey: Jack Rudd
F smy R EAS

England: TwistedArcher
---

Russia: Liopoil
---

Germany: nkirbit
F NTH R HEL

France: Chairs
---

1903 Spring Retreats:


Current Game State,1903 Fall:


Deadline for Fall Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, September 1st

Total Centers:
Austria:             6 centers
England:           2 centers
France:             6 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                5 centers
Russia:            8 centers
Turkey:            1 centers

[Jack Rudd]

Unless someone has a better idea, the move I'm probably bowing out with is F EAS-Smy. I kind of collapsed here.

[Galzria]

Unless someone has a better idea, the move I'm probably bowing out with is F EAS-Smy. I kind of collapsed here.

I think you got the short end of the stick here after Turkey so forcefully stamped it's seal of supremacy on Europe in the first two games.

[nkirbit]

It's kind of funny that TA and I miscommunicated so badly despite living with each other.  Whoops!

[Galzria]

Extension set. ~24 Hours to deadline.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Fall 1903:

Italy: Walrus
A Ven -> Tri
A Pie -> Tyr
F ION -> Gre
F AEG S F ION -> Gre
A Smy -> Con

Austria: Grujah
F gre S bul
A Bul -> rum
A ser S A bul -> rum
A bud S A bul -> rum
A Vie -> gal
F alb -> adr

Turkey: Jack Rudd
(No Order) - F smy H

England: TwistedArcher
F NTH -> Nor
F NWG S F NTH -> Nor

Russia: Liopoil
A nwy -> swe
F swe -> bal
A gal -> war
A sev -> rum
A ukr S sev -> rum
A rum -> bul
F BLA S rum -> bul
F ank -> con

Germany: nkirbit
F Hel -> NTH
F Den -> Swe
A Bur S Bel
A Hol S Bel
A Sil -> War

France: Chairs
A Gas -> Bur
A Par S Gas -> Bur
F Pic -> Bel
F ENG S Pic -> Bel
F Lon -> Wal
A Mar S Gas -> Bur

1903 Fall Moves:


Current Game State,1903 Fall Retreats:


Deadline for Retreats will be 1:00 am forum time, September 3rd - While we technically do retreats first, and then builds, if you feel that the decisions of those retreating will not effect you, feel free to send me your Winter builds/disbands. I will try to process both by the deadline posted above if possible. If it doesn't happen, then Winter will have the standard 24 hours.

Retreats:

Russia: Liopoil
A Nwy R ??

Germany: nkirbit
A Bur R ??

Austria: Grujah
F Gre R ??

Total Centers:
Austria:             5 centers (1 Disband)
England:           3 centers (1 Build)
France:             6 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                8 centers (3 Builds)
Russia:            6 centers (1 Disband)
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Order Results, Fall 1903 Retreats:

Italy: Walrus
---

Austria: Grujah
F gre R alb

Turkey: Jack Rudd
---

England: TwistedArcher
---

Russia: Liopoil
No Order (A nwy R fin)

Germany: nkirbit
A bur Disbands

France: Chairs
---

1903 Fall Retreats:


Current Game State,1903 Winter:


Deadline for Winter Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, September 4th

Total Centers:
Austria:             5 centers (1 Disband)
England:           3 centers (1 Build)
France:             6 centers
Germany:          6 center (1 Build)
Italy:                8 centers (3 Builds)
Russia:            6 centers (1 Disband)
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Sorry, forgot to post, but deadline was (is) extended 24 hours until 1:00 am, September 5th.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Winter 1903 Builds:

Italy: Walrus
A Ven
F Rom
F Nap

Austria: Grujah
A Vie Disbands

Turkey: Jack Rudd
F EAS Disbands

England: TwistedArcher
A Lvp

Russia: Liopoil
F BAL Disband

Germany: nkirbit
A Ber

France: Chairs
---

1903 Winter Builds:


Current Game State,1904 Spring:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, September 8th (24 hour extension available upon request)

Total Centers:
Austria:             5 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             6 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                8 centers
Russia:            6 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Deadline is tonight, in about 11 hours.

[Galzria]

Deadline has been extended by 24 hours. If you have submitted your moves and wish to change, feel free to do so. If you have yet to submit, get those orders in!

[Galzria]

Just a heads up: the update will be published today - I've got everything in, I'm just waiting on a confirmation regarding a moveset.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Spring 1904:

Italy: Walrus
A Ven -> Pie
A Tri -> Vie
A Tyr S A Tri -> Vie
A Smy -> Bul
F Nap -> Apu
F Rom -> TYS
F AEG C A Smy -> Bul
F Gre S A Smy -> Bul

Austria: Grujah
A ser -> tri
A rum -> ser
F ADR S A ser -> tri
F alb S A ser -> tri
A bud S A ser -> tri

England: TwistedArcher
A Lvp -> Yor
F Nor S Den -> Swe
F NWG -> NTH

Russia: Liopoil
A fin -> norway
A sev S gal -> rum
A ukr S gal -> rum
A gal -> rum
F BLA S gal -> rum
F ank -> con

Germany: nkirbit
A bel C bur -> swi Illegal Move, Unit Holds
A hol S bel
F NTH S bel
F den -> swe
A ber -> mun
A sil -> mun

France: Chairs
F pic -> bel
F ENG S pic -> bel
F wal -> IRI
A bur S pic -> bel
A mar -> pie
A par -> pic

1904 Spring Orders:


1904 Spring Retreats: (Did automatically as there was only one location for Germany to retreat to):

Germany: nkirbit
A bel R ruh



Current Gamestate, 1904 Fall:


Deadline for Fall Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, September 12th

Total Centers:
Austria:             5 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             6 centers
Germany:          6 center 
Italy:                8 centers
Russia:            6 centers 
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Grujah]

Balkans situation is damn interesting 

[liopoil]

indeed. Also, germany is the best nation ever for not taking warsaw. He is also the worst nation ever for taking sweden. And also the most confusing nation for convoying an opposing landlocked army to neutral not-in-the-game-territory switzerland with an army on land. that's illegal is 4 different ways.

[nkirbit]

indeed. Also, germany is the best nation ever for not taking warsaw. He is also the worst nation ever for taking sweden. And also the most confusing nation for convoying an opposing landlocked army to neutral not-in-the-game-territory switzerland with an army on land. that's illegal is 4 different ways.

On the site I played often, a lot of games were gunboat, meaning no talking was allowed.. you just submitted moves.  In those games, convoying an opposing unit to Switzerland was a way of sort of declaring peace with that nation, or that you were interested in peace.

I wasn't doing anything with Belgium that turn anyway, so hey, why not!  It is interpreted the same as a hold is.

[Galzria]

21 hours to deadline.

[Galzria]

Deadline extended 24 hours.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Fall 1904:

Italy: Walrus
A Ven -> Tri
A Tyr S A Ven -> Tri
A Vie -> Bud
A Bul -> Ser
F Gre -> Alb
F Apu -> ADR
F AEG -> ION
F TYS -> LYO

Austria: Grujah
F ADR -> ven
A tri -> vie
A bud S A tri - vie
F alb -> gre
A ser S F alb - gre

England: TwistedArcher
F NWG -> Edi
A Yor -> Lvp
F Nor S NTH

Russia: Liopoil
A ukr -> war
A fin -> stp
A rum S bul -> ser
A sev -> bul
F BLA C sev -> bul
A con S sev -> bul

Germany: nkirbit
A ruh S A ber -> mun
A ber -> mun
A sil -> war
F NTH S hol
F swe S NWG

France: Chairs
F IRI -> MAO
F ENG -> NTH
A pic S F BEL
F BEL S F ENG -> NTH
A bur -> ruh
A mar -> bur

1904 Fall Orders:


1904 Fall Retreats:

Italy: Walrus
A vie R boh



Current Gamestate, 1904 Winter:


Deadline for Retreats is ASAP. As there is only a single unit being dislodged, Walrus may post directly into thread here, and Winter can begin. I'll update --This Post-- with the official map (post-retreat) when I have time.

Deadline for Winter Builds will be 1:00 am forum time, September 15th - Extension is built into this deadline already.

Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers (Disband 1 Unit)
England:           3 centers
France:             7 centers (Build 1 Unit)
Germany:          6 center 
Italy:                7 centers (Disband 1 Unit)
Russia:            8 centers (Build 2 Units) 
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Retreat to Boh

[Galzria]

Confirmed.

Winter has begun.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Winter 1904 Builds:

Italy: Walrus
F lyo Disband

Austria: Grujah
F alb Disband

England: TwistedArcher
---

Russia: Liopoil
Build A war
Build A mos

Germany: nkirbit
---

France: Chairs
Build A par

1904 Winter Builds:


Current Game State,1905 Spring:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, September 19th (24 hour extension available upon request)

Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             7 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                7 centers
Russia:            8 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Sorry about the delay. I've had an exhausting weekend, and I've just not even felt up to logging onto my PC. Sitting around napping/staring into space has seemed like such a better idea.

[nkirbit]

Galz, you had mentioned we're looking for a replacement.. is our deadline still September 19th?

[Galzria]

Galz, you had mentioned we're looking for a replacement.. is our deadline still September 19th?

For the time being, yes.

[NotAnAltAccount]

Hey guys, I just joined but I love to play Diplomacy!!! Do you need a replacement??

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Spring 1905:

Italy: Walrus
A Boh -> Vie
A Tyr -> Pie
A Tri S A Boh -> Vie
A Ser S A Rum -> Bud
F ADR -> Apu
F ION -> TYS
F Gre -> ION

Austria: Grujah
F ven -> apu
A Vie S bud
A bud S vie

England: TwistedArcher
F Edi -> NTH
F NWG S F Edi -> NTH
A Lvp -> Yor

Russia: Liopoil
A stp -> fin
A mos -> stp
A ukr -> gal
A war S ukr -> gal
A rum -> bud
F con -> aeg
A bul -> rum
F BLA S bul -> rum

Germany: nkirbit
A ruh s mun
A sil s mun
F NTH -> NWG
F swe -> nwy
A mun H
A hol H

France: Chairs
F ENG -> wal
F bel -> ENG
F MAO -> IRI
A pic -> bel
A par -> pic
A bur S A pic -> bel
A mar S A bur

1905 Spring Orders:


1905 Spring Retreats: (Did automatically as there was only one location for Austria to retreat to):

Austria: Grujah
A vie -> tyr



Current Gamestate, 1905 Fall:


Deadline for Fall Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, September 23rd

Total Centers:
Austria:             3 centers
England:           3 centers
France:             7 centers
Germany:          6 center 
Italy:                7 centers
Russia:            8 centers 
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

All orders are in, I'll update early this afternoon.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Fall 1905:

Italy: Walrus
A tri -> ven
A ser -> tri
A vie -> tyr
A pie -> tyr
F ADR S A tri -> ven
F TYS -> LYO
F ION -> TYS

Austria: Grujah
A tyr -> tri
F ven S A tyr -> tri

England: TwistedArcher
F NTH -> lon
A Yor S F NTH -> lon
F nwy -> NTH

Russia: Liopoil
F AEG -> ION
F BLA -> bul
A rum S bud
A bud S gal
A gal S war -> sil
A war -> sil
A stp -> nwy
A fin S stp -> nwy

Germany: nkirbit
F NWG -> edi
F swe H
A hol -> bel
A ruh -> kie
A mun -> sil
A sil -> pru

France: Chairs
F IRI -> lvp
F ENG -> lon
F WAL S F ENG -> lon
A bel H
A pic S A bel
A bur H
A mar S A bur

1905 Fall Orders:


1905 Fall Retreats: (Done Automatically. Both countries now eliminated.)

Austria: Grujah
F ven Disbands

England: TwistedArcher
F nwy Disbands



Current Gamestate, 1905 Winter:


Deadline for Winter Builds will be 1:00 am forum time, September 26th - Extension is built into this deadline already.

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             8 centers (Build 1 Unit)
Germany:          7 center (Build 1 Unit) 
Italy:                9 centers (Build 2 Units)
Russia:            10 centers (Build 2 Units) 
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[hyramgraff]

You auto disbanded the displaced units but the remaining units from Austria and England are still on the map.  I guess the software you're using requires you to disband them as part of the winter orders.

[Galzria]

You auto disbanded the displaced units but the remaining units from Austria and England are still on the map.  I guess the software you're using requires you to disband them as part of the winter orders.

That's correct. I could've included disband orders pre-entered on the Winter Maps, but I couldn't just knock them out during Retreats resolution. Technically they are still there, while each country must disband the appropriate number. At the end of the day (year), they go away anyway, and my end-of-post status update is correct (those players being eliminated).

Obviously for the sake of completeness, Grujah and TwistedArcher aren't required to submit orders (although they're welcome to PM me telling me to disband them). I try and process "automatic" actions myself wherever possible.

[Galzria]

You auto disbanded the displaced units but the remaining units from Austria and England are still on the map.  I guess the software you're using requires you to disband them as part of the winter orders.

That's correct. I could've included disband orders pre-entered on the Winter Maps, but I couldn't just knock them out during Retreats resolution. Technically they are still there, while each country must disband the appropriate number. At the end of the day (year), they go away anyway, and my end-of-post status update is correct (those players being eliminated).

Obviously for the sake of completeness, Grujah and TwistedArcher aren't required to submit orders (although they're welcome to PM me telling me to disband them). I try and process "automatic" actions myself wherever possible.

Or rather, to be completely accurate, my end status update shouldn't just read "0 centers (eliminated)", it should read "0 centers (must disband X) (eliminated). But eh. I'm lazy.

[Twistedarcher]

I will, in fact, be disbanding all my units.

[liopoil]

Agh. deadline has passed, but I won't be able to look at the map until this afternoon... could you wait till then? (phone posting right now)

[Galzria]

Agh. deadline has passed, but I won't be able to look at the map until this afternoon... could you wait till then? (phone posting right now)

Yeah, PM'd you last night asking. We'll wait.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Winter 1905 Builds:

Italy: Walrus
Build F nap
Build F rom

Austria: Grujah
A tyr Disband

England: TwistedArcher
F NTH Disband
A yor Disband

Russia: Liopoil
Build A war
Build F stp (sc)

Germany: nkirbit
Build A ber

France: Chairs
Build F bre

1905 Winter Builds:


Current Game State,1906 Spring:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, September 30th (24 hour extension available upon request)

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             7 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                7 centers
Russia:            8 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Sorry, what little time I've had these past few days has been demanded by other games. I'll update in about an hour.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Spring 1906:

Italy: Walrus
F LYO -> Spa
F TYS -> WES
F Rom -> TYS
F Nap -> ION
F ADR S F Nap -> ION
A Pie -> Mar
A Ven S A Vie -> Tyr
A Vie -> Tyr
A Ser -> Tri

Russia: Liopoil
A fin -> swe
A nwy S fin -> swe
F stp (sc) -> BOT
F ion H
A war -> liv
A gal -> war
A rum -> ukr
A bud -> gal
F bul (ec) H
A sil S bur -> mun

Germany: nkirbit
F Swe -> BOT
A Pru -> Lvn
A Ber -> Pru
A Mun s Kie -> Ber
A Kie -> Ber
A Hol S Bel
F Edi -> NTH

France: Chairs
F ENG -> MAO
F wal -> ENG
F lvp -> wal
F bre -> gas
A bur S A mar
A mar H
A pic S A bel
A bel H

1906 Spring Orders:


1906 Spring Retreats:

Germany: Nkirbit
F swe R SKA

Russia: Liopoil
F ION Disbands



Current Game State: Fall, 1906:


Deadline for Fall Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, October 5th

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             7 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                7 centers
Russia:            8 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

Note: Master Orders list included in this update in case you're interested in reading through a straight history and progression of the game.

[Galzria]

Retreats updated into post. Fall's begun. Dip File Attached to this post.

[Jack Rudd]

F ION disbands??

What on earth is Russia playing at?

[nkirbit]

F ION disbands??

What on earth is Russia playing at?

An extra build in the north to attack Germany with!

[liopoil]

F ION disbands??

What on earth is Russia playing at?

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Fall 1906:

Italy: Walrus
F Spa - Mar
F WES - MAO
F TYS - LYO
F ION - Tun
F ADR - ION
A Pie S F Spa - Mar
A Ven - Tus
A Tyr - Vie
A Tri - Vie

Russia: Liopoil
A nwy H
A swe S nwy
F stp (sc) - bot
F bul (ec) H
A bud H
A war - pru
A sil S war - pru
A gal S sil
A ukr - war

Germany: nkirbit
F Nth C Hol - Nwy
F Ska S Hol - Nwy
A Kie - Den
A Pru S Mun - Sil
A Ber S Mun - Sil
A Mun - Sil
A Hol - Nor

France: Chairs
F WAL - LON
F MAO S F GAS - SPA
A MAR S F GAS - SPA
A BUR S A MAR
A PIC - PAR
F ENG S A BEL
A BEL HOLD
F GAS - SPA

1906 Fall Orders:


1906 Fall Retreats: (Done Automatically. Only one retreat location available)

Italy: Walrus
F spa R por



Current Gamestate, 1906 Winter:


Deadline for Winter Builds will be 1:00 am forum time, October 8th - Extension is built into this deadline already.

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             7 centers (Disband 1 Unit)
Germany:          6 center (Disband 1 Unit) 
Italy:                10 centers (Build 1 Units)
Russia:            11 centers (Build 2 Units) 
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Order Results, Winter 1906 Builds:

Italy: Walrus
Build F nap

Russia: Liopoil
Build A mos
Build F stp (nc)

Germany: nkirbit
Disband F SKA

France: Chairs
Disband A bel

1908 Winter Builds:


Current Game State,1907 Spring:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, October 12th (24 hour extension available upon request)

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             7 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                10 centers
Russia:           11 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

I've had very little time at a PC, and it keeps slipping my mind while I'm out (and only have my mobile), but there was a deadline extension request through this weekend. So you'll all have until the 15th, at 1:00 am to submit, change, reorder etc.

[liopoil]

I just submitted my orders now.

[Galzria]

Orders are in. I'll update tonight, and then we'll try and get back to a normal schedule.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Spring 1907:

Italy: Walrus
F Por -> Spa
F WES S F Por -> Spa
F Tun -> Naf
F LYO S A Pie -> Mar
F ION -> AEG
F Nap -> ION
A Pie -> Mar
A Tus -> Ven
A Tri -> Ser
A Tyr -> Tri

Russia: Liopoil
A gal -> boh
A war -> pru
A sil S war -> pru
A mos -> lvn
A ukr -> gal
F bul (ec) -> BLA
F BOT -> BAL
F stp (nc) -> BAR
A bud H
A nwy H
A swe -> den

Germany: nkirbit
A Ber -> Kie
A Pru -> Ber
A Mun -> Bur
A Hol -> Edi
F Nth C Hol -> Edi

France: Chairs
F SPA -> por
F MAO -> naf
F ENG -> MAO
A MAR -> SPA
A BUR -> MAR
A PAR -> GAS

1907 Spring Orders:


1906 Spring Retreats:
In an odd twist, the Fleet from Portugal attacking the Southern Coast of Spain somehow manages to destroy the Fleet across the country on the Northern Coast as IT attempted to invade the now vacated Portugal.

France: Chairs
F Spa is Destroyed

Current Game State: Fall, 1907:


Deadline for Fall Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, October 21st (Normal deadlines!)

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             7 centers
Germany:          6 center
Italy:                10 centers
Russia:            11 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

All orders are in. I'll process shortly.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Fall 1907:

Italy: Walrus
F Spa - Por
F WES - MAO
F LYO S A Mar
F Tun - ION
F ION - Gre
F AEG - Con
A Mar H
A Ven - Tri
A Tri - Ser
A Ser - Bul

Russia: Liopoil
F BLA-bul(ec)
A boh-vie
A gal-rum
A sil-gal
A bud S boh-vie
F bar-nwg
A liv-mos
A swe-den
F bal S swe-den
A nwy H
A pru-war

Germany: nkirbit
A Edi - Lvp
F Nth S Den
A Mun - Sil
A Kie S Ber
A den H
A ber H

France: Chairs
F MAO - POR
F ENG - BRE
F LON - ENG
A BUR - MAR
A GAS SUP A BUR - MAR

1907 Fall Orders:


Current Gamestate, 1907 Winter:


Deadline for Winter Builds will be 1:00 am forum time, October 25th

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             4 centers (Disband 1 Unit)
Germany:          7 center (Build 1 Unit) 
Italy:                12 centers (Build 2 Units)
Russia:            11 centers 
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Still need your disband here Chairs

[chairs]

Disband bre. I'm still lacking regular internet, sorry.

[Galzria]

Disband bre. I'm still lacking regular internet, sorry.

No worries. I actually missed that you were down on connection right now.

[Galzria]

Order Results, Winter 1907 Builds:

Italy: Walrus
Build A rom
Build F nap

Russia: Liopoil
-----

Germany: nkirbit
Build A mun

France: Chairs
Disband F bre

1907 Winter Builds:


Current Game State,1908 Spring:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, November 2nd

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             4 centers
Germany:          7 center
Italy:                12 centers
Russia:           11 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

All orders are in, but I don't have time to update this now. I will have it updated by end of day however.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Spring 1908:

Italy: Walrus
F Spa -> Por
F WES -> MAO
F LYO S A Mar
F Nap -> ION
F ION -> AEG
F Gre -> Bul
F Con S F Gre -> Bul
A Mar H
A Rom -> Ven
A Ven -> Tyr
A Tri -> Bud
A Ser S A Tri -> Bud

Russia: Liopoil
A mos -> sev
F bla -> ank
A bud -> ser
A rum S bud -> ser
A vie -> tri
A gal -> bud
A war H
F bal -> pru
A swe -> den
A nwy H
F nwg -> nth

Germany: nkirbit
A Lvp -> Yor
F Nth S Den
A Kie S Den
A Ber -> Pru
A Mun -> Ruh
A den H
A sil H

France: Chairs
A BUR -> MAR
A GAS S A BUR -> MAR
F ENG S F MAO
F MAO H

1908 Spring Orders:


1908 Spring Retreats:

Italy: Walrus
A ser ???



Current Game State: Fall, 1908:


Deadline for Retreats will be 1:00 am Forum Time, November 4th. Fall Orders will be due by 1:00 am Forum Time, November 7th (Normal deadlines!)

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             4 centers
Germany:          7 center
Italy:                12 centers
Russia:            11 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Retreat to Gre

[Galzria]

I still need orders from the French and Russian Generals.

[liopoil]

oh, I thought we were waiting for you to do retreats.

okay, will send orders.

[chairs]

Orders sent.

[Galzria]

oh, I thought we were waiting for you to do retreats.

okay, will send orders.

Yeah, sorry. I put the Fall Deadline in there as well, I was just going to update the retreat with the orders post since it was just a single unit and was fairly straightforward.

Orders sent.

Confirmed

[Galzria]

MODNOTE: My computer is acting up, and I'm unable to upload the images right now, hopefully however I'll be able to attach the files, and I'll try again to upload the pictures when I get home from work.

Orders Results, Fall 1908:

Italy: Walrus
F Por S F WES - Spa
F WES - Spa
F LYO S A Mar
F ION - AEG
F AEG - Con
F Bul S F AEG - Con
F Con - BLA
A Mar S F WES - Spa
A Ven - Tri
A Tyr S A Tri - Vie
A Tri - Vie
A Gre - Ser

Russia: Liopoil
F nwg-nwy
A nwy-swe
A swe-lvn
F bal C swe-lvn
F ank-con
A ser H
A vie S sil-boh
A gal S vie
A rum S ser
A sev-arm
A war-ukr

Germany: nkirbit
A sil-boh
A ber-mun
A kie S den
A ruh-mun
F nth-bel
A yor-lon
A den H

France: Chairs
A BUR - MAR
A GAS S A BUR - MAR
F ENG S F MAO
F MAO HOLD

1908 Fall Orders:


No Retreats

Current Gamestate, 1908 Winter:


Deadline for Winter Builds will be 1:00 am forum time, November 12th

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             2 centers (Disband 2 Unit)
Germany:          9 center (Build 2 Unit - only one free territory) 
Italy:                12 centers
Russia:            11 centers 
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

If there are any mistakes, please let me know!

[nkirbit]

I'm on board with a Germany-Italy-Russia 3-way draw!

[chairs]

disband my armies. I'm not on board with a 3 way draw.

F eng pic
F mao eng

[Galzria]

Order Results, Winter 1908 Builds:

Italy: Walrus
-----

Russia: Liopoil
-----

Germany: nkirbit
Build A mun

France: Chairs
Disband A gas
Disband A bur

1908 Winter Builds:


Current Game State,1909 Spring:


Deadline for Spring Orders will be 1:00 am forum time, November 18th (This should be kept this time, I've got a three day weekend! Yay!)

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             2 centers
Germany:          9 center
Italy:                12 centers
Russia:           11 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

And man, having a new page is nice (I go every 50 posts, so that last page, with all those image uploads, was looooooooong)

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Spring 1909:

Italy: Walrus
F Por - MAO
F Spa S F Por - MAO
F LYO - WES
F Bul - AEG
F AEG - Smy
F Con - Bul (EC)
F BLA - Rum
A Mar - Gas
A Ven - Tri
A Tyr - Vie
A Tri - Ser
A Gre S A Tri - Ser

Russia: Liopoil
F nwy H
A swe-lvn
F bal C swe-lvn
A lvn-war
A ukr-sev
A arm-smy
F ank-bla
A gal-bud
A vie S boh-tyr
A ser S gal-bud
A rum S ser

Germany: nkirbit
A kie s den
A ber - mun
A boh - mun
A mun - bur
A ruh - bel
F bel - eng
A lon H
A den H

France: Chairs
F eng pic
F mao eng

1909 Spring Orders:


1909 Spring Retreats:

Russia: Liopoil
A ser R alb

France: Chairs
F MAO R IRI



Current Game State: Fall, 1909:


Deadline for Fall Orders will be due by 1:00 am Forum Time, November 23rd (Normal deadlines!)

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             2 centers
Germany:          9 center
Italy:                12 centers
Russia:            11 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[Galzria]

Updated. Fall Orders due 1:00 AM, November 23rd (As that's the Day of the Doctor, I may be late updating).

[liopoil]

Sorry folks for the long delay... it'll take me a bit to remember/figure everything out again, will do as soon as possible.

[liopoil]

sent

[Galzria]

Yeah, I'll update on Monday. Busy this weekend.

[Galzria]

Orders Results, Fall 1909:

Italy: Walrus
F MAO - Bre
F WES - MAO
F Spa S F WES - MAO
F Bul S A Gre
F AEG - Smy
F Con - Smy
F BLA - Rum
A Gas S F MAO - Bre
A Tyr - Vie
A Tri - Bud
A Ser S A Tri - Bud
A Gre S A Ser

Russia: Liopoil
A war-gal
A lvn-mos
F bal-bot
F nwy H
A vie-tri
A rum-ser
A bud S rum-ser
A arm S ank
F ank H
A sev-rum
A alb-gre

Germany: nkirbit
A bur - par
A boh s ruh - mun
A ruh - mun
A lon H
A kie H
A ber H
F bel H

France: Chairs
F PIC BEL
F IRI LVP

1908 Fall Orders:


No Retreats

Current Gamestate, 1909 Winter:


Deadline for Winter Builds will be..... As soon as they're in!

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             1 centers (Disband 1 Unit)
Germany:          9 center (Build 1 Unit - No free territories) 
Italy:                14 centers (Build 2 Units)
Russia:            10 centers (Disband 1 Unit)
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

If there are any mistakes, please let me know!

[nkirbit]

Soooo four way draw?

[liopoil]

...sure?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Hahah, sure, whatever! Peace returns to the land!

I was just thinking about this game. Obviously I love Diplomacy and this is the best I've ever done as Italy. I'd love to start another one if there's interest. I would play of course, or I wouldn't mind hosting.

[shraeye]

i wanna see a winner!

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Wanna take over as mod then?

[shraeye]

is that the issue?  I could process the next few orders, assuming everybody has them available.

[shraeye]

Yup; I'm taking over.  Send me those build/disbands.

[liopoil]

Is chairs still around?

[liopoil]

Is chairs still around?

[liopoil]

Is chairs still around?

[liopoil]

Is chairs still around?

[liopoil]

Is chairs still around?

[shraeye]

cccccombo breaker?

[liopoil]

Wow, I was phone posting, and it kept not quite getting service and working (or so I thought) so I just tried again and again...

[shraeye]

Ok, I'm getting serious about finishing this up.

[Twistedarcher]

Just under a month to get this done in a year!

[chairs]

I've set things up so I actually get notifications now.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Galzria Lon -> ENG

[shraeye]

what?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I SAID, GALZRIA LON -> ENG

[Twistedarcher]

I hope he doesn't need to wait until the fall for the next part.

[liopoil]

Galzria Lon -> ENG

ha, nice

[shraeye]

Orders Results, Winter 1909:

Italy: Walrus
Build A Ven
Build A Rom

Russia: Liopoil
Disband F Bot

Germany: nkirbit

France: Chairs
Disband F Lvp

1909 Winter Orders:


Current Gamestate, 1910 Spring:


Deadline for Spring is 3 days?  Who knows.  Get this in.

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             1 center
Germany:          9 centers
Italy:                14 centers
Russia:            10 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[liopoil]

man, it really was a long winter!

[nkirbit]

So does anyone want to replace me?

[XerxesPraelor]

I will.

[liopoil]

cool! nkirbit, send him the links to the relevant QTs?

chairs, xerses, waiting for you to comment in our QT.

[liopoil]

bump. I haven't sent my moves in yet. Chairs & Xerses, talk in our QT? please?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Time is expired! Submit orders immediately! Don't listen to him chairs and Xerxes--He'll only lead you astray with his unctuous Russian wiles!

[shraeye]

He'll only lead you ashtray.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

He'll only lead you ashtray.

[chairs]

I forgot there were QTs.  I also forgot that I didn't submit orders since I don't see any reasonable survival/win choice here.

I"d be happy to read the QT if you can link me.

[liopoil]

thanks chairs. XERSES!!

[WalrusMcFishSr]

[robertbaratheon]GET ON WITH IT

[liopoil]

[robertbaratheon]GET ON WITH IT

what have you done with xerses??

[XerxesPraelor]

Sorry, multiple things. I already submitted, may I change any orders?

[liopoil]

I say you can!

[shraeye]

sure; change away until deadline, which is sometime in the future.  Hopefully soon.

[liopoil]

xerses, when you change your orders, tell me, so that I know you did... also preferably tell me what you changed them to.

[liopoil]

I submitted my orders

[shraeye]

yes, the whole world is waiting on me now.  bwahahaha!

I'll jump on this tomorrow morning, but got no time today.

[shraeye]

Orders Results, Spring 1910:

Italy: Walrus
F MAO - NAO
F Bre - ENG
F Spa - LYO
F AEG - Smy
F Con - Smy
F Bul H
F BLA - Rum
A Gas - Par
A Tyr S A Boh - Vie
A Ven - Pie
A Rom - Ven
A Tri - Bud
A Ser - Bud
A Gre - Alb

Russia: Liopoil
F nor-nwg
A vie S boh-tyr
A rum-ser
A bud S rum-ser
A sev-rum
A gal S sev-rum
A mos-sev
A arm S ank
F ank S aeg-smy (invalid order)
A alb-gre

Germany: nkirbitXerxesPraelor
A Lon-Wal
F Bel-ENG
A Par-Bur
A Mun-Boh
A Kie -Mun
A Ber - Pru
A Den - Swe
A Boh - Vie

France: Chairs
F Pic - ENG

1910 Spring Orders:


No Retreats

Current Gamestate, 1910 Fall:


Deadline for Fall is 5 days?  Who knows.  Get this in.

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             1 center
Germany:          9 centers
Italy:                14 centers
Russia:            10 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[liopoil]

F ank S aeg-smy (invalid order)

oh right, oops

[XerxesPraelor]

Has anyone not sent in their orders yet?

[liopoil]

I sent mine

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Mine as well

[chairs]

...pretty sure i sent mine.

[shraeye]

i may even have them all....but I'm pretty busy until Thursday.

[shraeye]

Orders Results, Fall 1910:

Italy: Walrus
F NAO - NWG
F Bre H
A Par S F Bre
A Pie - Mar
F LYO - TYS
A Ven - Tri
A Tyr S A Ven - Tri
A Tri - Bud
A Ser S A Tri - Bud
A Gre - Alb
F Bul H
F AEG - Smy
F Con - Ank
F BLA S F Con - Ank

Russia: Liopoil
F nwg-edi
F ank H
A arm S con-smy
A alb-ser
A bud S alb-ser
A rum S alb-ser
A sev-ukr
A mos-war
A gal S mos-war

Germany: nkirbitXerxesPraelor
Swe H
Wales to Liv
Vie H
Boh S Vie H
Pru to Liv
Bel H
Bur - Mar
Mun H

France: Chairs
F PIC - BEL

1910 Fall Orders:


No Retreats

Current Gamestate, 1910 Winter (well, after retreats):


Walrus, retreat to Serbia to Greece or Disband?

Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             1 center
Germany:          9 centers
Italy:                14 centers
Russia:            10 centers
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Retreat

[shraeye]

Winter 1910 situation:


Total Centers:
Austria:             0 centers (Eliminated)
England:           0 centers (Eliminated)
France:             0 centers (Eliminated)
Germany:          10 centers --may build 2
Italy:                15 centers --may build 1
Russia:            9 centers --may build 1
Turkey:            0 centers (Eliminated)

Let's get builds in sometime soon, and I promise to update in a more timely fashion

[liopoil]

So, how about that three-way draw?

[chairs]

Oh good, I'm finally eliminated.

[XerxesPraelor]

I agree to a 3-way draw.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I agree as well.

[liopoil]

Yay! was worried you guys would reneg and try to eliminate me, be Italy would just win that way.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Yeahhh it's for the best! I considered if I could make some sort of power play but I'm not sure it's possible.

Hooray Diplomacy! Now we can start a new one, this one took way too long

[XerxesPraelor]

Three-way draws are actually my favorite result (after two-way draws, but those hardly ever happen) so I'm glad Italy accepted.

[shraeye]

so it's official?  Sorry i was a bad takeover mod.  My most recent result (on Droidippy) was a 2-way draw.  It was pretty satisfying.

[WalrusMcFishSr]

Yes! Wine, beer, and vodka for all!

And no prob shraeye, thanks for keeping the game going. Who's hosting Diplomacy 4?

[WalrusMcFishSr]

I don't mind hosting Diplomacy 4 if nobody else wanted to? I'd rather play I think, but I would if that's what it takes to get more Diplomacy rolling!

[shraeye]

I forgot to release this!  I watched and commented on the opening turns.  Then I got lazy and stopped.

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/JGew8AE3jK5y2

[Twistedarcher]

This was a good read, Shraeye. Makes me wish I signed up for Diplomacy 4.

[liopoil]

yeah that was cool to read, wish it had continued. Things were just about to take a turn for the worse!