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Mr Anderson

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Multiple Possessions
« on: May 31, 2013, 09:00:40 am »
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If I play multiple Possessions in my turn (for example due to KC), and another Possession in the turn I control my opponent, when will he possess the third player/me, will my other Possession turns still happen?
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 09:23:44 am »
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If I play multiple Possessions in my turn (for example due to KC), and another Possession in the turn I control my opponent, when will he possess the third player/me, will my other Possession turns still happen?

Oh boy. Such questions are tricky, but this is what would happen.

You play Possession x2. At the end of your turn, the player to your left takes an extra turn in which you control him. During that extra turn, he plays Possession, because you made him for some reason.

Now, at the end of that turn, 2 different things are about to happen at the same time... he should take an extra turn from your previously played Possession, and the player to his left should take an extra turn from the newly played Possession. As it is his turn, he gets to decide what order they happen in, but as you are possessing him, you make that decision for him. So you get to choose which happens first. his extra turn will happen first. But no matter which one you choose, the same 2 things will end up happening, He'll get 1 more extra turn possessed by you, and then the player to his left will get an extra turn possessed by him. After both those extra turns are done, he will continue with his normal turn.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 10:08:00 am by GendoIkari »
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 10:01:04 am »
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Thank you so much.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 02:32:25 pm »
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On  Goko, this isn't implemented right yet; it always plays the turns in player order, I think.

This isn't actually right, but by god it's not something I want them to spend much time fixing, it's super-confusing to get right and matters so, so rarely.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 04:07:34 pm »
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AFAIK Donald stated in older discussions about this, that the multi-time possessed player is not under control between turns and can decide himself, which turn next. But that was mostly about who decides the order of remaining Possession turns and a turn from an Outpost played during a possession.

For the case here i would say, that since there happens the same to several players, it goes in turn order. So first second (or third) possessed turn, then the possesed turn of next player, then back to normal turn of first possessed player.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 08:49:53 pm »
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The first answer given here was wrong.

Yes, in the example two things are about to happen at the same time. But since it's happening to different players, we go in turn order starting with the active player. It's only when several things happen to the same player that he decides the order. So it sounds like Goko has this right.

In between turns, if a decision has to be made, it's the player who last had a turn who decides. But if that player was possessed on that turn, it's the possessor who decides instead. This only matters for Possession + Outpost. See the FAQ in my sig for the sources for this.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2013, 04:07:53 am »
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Ok, thank you.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2013, 05:52:58 am »
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I'm not entirely convinced Goko does have it right; I had a game where my opponent misclicked on my Possession while possessing me, and it gave me my normal turn before letting me possess them for a turn. The card says "takes an extra turn after this one" (i.e. after the turn in which I am possessed), so by my reading, I should possess them before having my normal turn.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2013, 10:08:48 am »
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The first answer given here was wrong.

Yes, in the example two things are about to happen at the same time. But since it's happening to different players, we go in turn order starting with the active player. It's only when several things happen to the same player that he decides the order. So it sounds like Goko has this right.

In between turns, if a decision has to be made, it's the player who last had a turn who decides. But if that player was possessed on that turn, it's the possessor who decides instead. This only matters for Possession + Outpost. See the FAQ in my sig for the sources for this.

Oops, I did say it was tricky! I made some edits.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2013, 10:11:42 am »
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I'm not entirely convinced Goko does have it right; I had a game where my opponent misclicked on my Possession while possessing me, and it gave me my normal turn before letting me possess them for a turn. The card says "takes an extra turn after this one" (i.e. after the turn in which I am possessed), so by my reading, I should possess them before having my normal turn.
I'm convinced Goko has it wrong.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2013, 12:43:37 pm »
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I don't know why everyone is so critical of Goko's implementation of Possession. It has gotten a LOT better since released. It's actually quite playable now. I don't think anyone has an excuse not to be purchasing the Alchemy expansion immediately, probably should make at least one alt and purchase a second time to show full support for Possession.
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Re: Multiple Possessions
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2013, 01:02:58 pm »
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probably should make at least one alt and purchase a second time to show full support for Possession.

Let's show Goko our appreciation for their thoroughly mediocre product.
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