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PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« on: May 06, 2013, 05:10:34 pm »

Rules: http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/78941/rulebook-3rd-printing

TA to place an action pawn.

Food chain order:
Voltgloss - insects (green) 1 free species anywhere on earth at end of speciation. 16VP.
Hyramgraff - arachnids (red) Can eliminate one species it shares a tile with at beginning of competition. 11VP.
Liopoil - amphibians (teal) Starts with 3 sea elements 13VP.
TwistedArcher - birds (yellow) Species can migrate 2 spaces instead of one. 6VP.
Theorel - reptiles (black) Has a permanent AP in the last regression space. 14VP.
Watno - mammals (white) Can save one species from extinction each round. 26VP.

Turn order:
Voltgloss - insects (green) 2 grass, 1 sun, 3 AP, gene pool=20, eliminated=2
Hyramgraff - arachnids (red) 3 grub, 1 grass, 4 AP, gene pool=26, eliminated=4
Liopoil - amphibians (teal) 3 water, 1 grass 3 AP, gene pool=21, eliminated=2
TwistedArcher - birds (yellow) 2 seed, 1 meat, 3 AP, gene pool=26, eliminated=3
Theorel - reptiles (black) 2 sun, 1 seed, 3 AP, gene pool=23, eliminated=1
Watno - mammals (white) 2 meat, 1 sun, 3 AP, gene pool=26, eliminated=0

Survival card: Voltgloss

Gameboard (last updated at the start of Round 3):



AP placement area (last updated at the start of Round 3):



Dominance cards:
Biodiversity: 1VP per tile shared with 1+ opposing species.
Mass Exodus: Select a tile. Move all species there onto adjacent tiles.
Parasitism: You an each player below you in the food chain gain an action pawn.
Aquatic: Place an element of your choice onto any sea or wetland tile. Place up to 4 species from your gene pool on that tile.
Blight: Select a tile. Remove all but one element disk from that tile.

Other info:

Bonus points for various things: (note that there's a pattern: the amount of points given per extra thing increases by 2, then 3, 4...)
Quantity: 1  2  3  4    5    6    7   8    9+
Points:    1  3  6  10  15  21  28  36  45

Tile scoring:

Sea: 9-5-3-2
Wetland: 8-4-2-1
Savannah: 7-4-2
Jungle: 6-3-2
Forest: 5-3-2
Desert: 4-2
Mountain: 3-2
Tundra: 1
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2013, 05:10:45 pm »

/reserved if I need it for some reason.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2013, 05:22:58 pm »

Time to get reading the rules! Here's a link if anyone else needs it:

http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/78941/rulebook-3rd-printing

(It says it's for the 3rd edition which is the same except for graphics and such)
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2013, 06:28:38 pm »

So "domination" and "dominance" are two completely different things? 
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2013, 06:49:15 pm »

Yes, they are, and yes, that is incredibly confusing.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2013, 07:42:37 am »

Okay, I can't resist.  I want in.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2013, 04:38:16 pm »

okay. Grujah, you want the last spot?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2013, 05:11:45 am »

go without me, I cannot commit right now it seems.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2013, 08:22:40 am »

So we need someone else.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2013, 07:30:48 pm »

yep! one more...
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Re: PBF Dominant Species (One spot left!)
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 02:16:45 pm »

I'll join.  Reading the rules now.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species (One spot left!)
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2013, 07:11:25 pm »

Woohoo!

Do we want to do species randomly, or by choice?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species (One spot left!)
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2013, 07:30:05 pm »

I'm open to whatever you guys want. each species is distinctly different, and it does seem to me that some are slightly better than others
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2013, 07:36:58 pm »

Given that its my first game I would probably rather do random selection.

We are going to be playing this on vassal?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2013, 07:41:48 pm »

another question: do you guys want to play the "short" game (not actually short, and still works just as well), or the long game? the only difference in the short game is that the dominance card deck is 4 cards smaller.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2013, 07:51:00 pm »

I think I'll probably post pictures from VASSAL here.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2013, 09:17:07 pm »

I'm good with random species.  I'd vaguely prefer the normal game over the short game.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2013, 09:19:13 pm »

okay, I'll do it random. I'd like to hear what other people think about short game/long game. I haven't played the long game, but it seems the cards it includes are imbalanced. They can give players extra action pawns!
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2013, 09:22:49 pm »

species have been determined. Each species comes with a color, so those have been determined as well. It's in the OP now.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2013, 09:28:30 pm »

okay, I'll do it random. I'd like to hear what other people think about short game/long game. I haven't played the long game, but it seems the cards it includes are imbalanced. They can give players extra action pawns!

Mmmm...extra action pawns.  That's why I want to keep them.

Also, I've been made to understand that the cards are imbalanced with or without them (it makes the early spots on the domination action more valuable).  I don't think they're considered the strongest cards, they're just the ones that lengthen the game...but I think that has a lot to do with Analysis Paralysis, which tends to be less of an issue in forum games.

Anyways, that's my 2 cents.  Others should weigh in obviously, I've never actually played the game just read about it.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, choosing species.
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2013, 10:23:46 am »

Slight preference for long game here.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2013, 10:35:31 am »

okay, it's ready to go! gameboard is in OP now by the way. I used the long game. It is now Qvist's turn to place an action pawn.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2013, 10:36:15 am »

I hope the board isn't too small. I made it as big as the forum would let me.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2013, 10:43:04 am »

I fear it is too small. I can't read the cards.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2013, 12:10:59 pm »

better? I can make the action pawn placement area bigger as well if that is also too small.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2013, 12:39:54 pm »

I don't see the attached game board at all...
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2013, 01:24:32 pm »

weird...
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2013, 01:54:40 pm »

I can see it on my phone but not my CPU huh. Ill mess with my settings when I get home.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2013, 03:28:00 pm »

I don't know which browsers don't do it, but Chrome puts the attachments over to one side.

My suggestion would just be to use an external image site.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2013, 03:34:25 pm »

My suggestion would just be to use an external image site.
What do you mean?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2013, 03:55:57 pm »

www.tinypic.com

Upload the image there. Post it here in image tags. Done.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2013, 03:57:11 pm »

ahhh, thanks I'll do that.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2013, 03:58:12 pm »

should I post gamestate boards periodically or just keep one in the OP which I update?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2013, 03:25:54 pm »

How familar is each of the players with the game. I've never played this before. I hope I don't make too many dumb mistakes.

Adaptation

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2013, 04:07:59 pm »

My first game too...

Could I request some random info for the first post?
Points for regions.
#APs (this will be more important once we have different numbers of action pawns)
Player-Board type info (specifically elements on the boards)
The points table (used for wanderlust/glaciation/survival) -it's hard to read on the gameboard

I think that's it.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2013, 06:38:53 pm »

My first game, too. I'd also love to see that information in the opening post!

Since we're all clueless, we can struggle through this together :D
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2013, 06:41:02 pm »

yep! I was planning on adding a bunch of stuff once we get rolling. will do soon.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2013, 06:42:04 pm »

also, adaptation is a rather common first move in my experience, so you haven't messed up yet :P
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2013, 06:44:54 pm »

also, adaptation is a rather common first move in my experience, so you haven't messed up yet :P

YEAH!

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2013, 06:49:44 pm »

Some stuff to add that I would find helpful:

Reptiles (Theorel) - Sun, Sun
One "Free" AP in Regression per turn

Insects (Qvist) - Grass, Grass
After Speciation, place one insect anywhere on the board.

Amphibians (Liopoil)- Water, Water, Water
No special ability!

Mammals (Watno)- Meat, Meat
May save one endangered species from extinction per turn

Birds (Twistedarcher)- Seed, Seed
May migrate one tile

Arachnids (Hyramgraff) - Grub, Grub
One "free" AP in competition

Adaptation - Sun, Grass, Seed, Meat
Regression - None
Abundance - Water, Water, Grass, Sun
Wasteland - None
Depletion - None
Wanderlust - Grass, Meat, Meat, Sun

(so I don't have to constantly squint at it and look up what the symbols are every time)
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2013, 08:00:24 pm »

added lots of stuff. all good now?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2013, 08:53:55 pm »

Much! :D
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2013, 09:06:07 pm »

Could I suggest you also add how many species each player has left? IIRC it's limited and can really matter.
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2013, 09:32:48 pm »

ahh yes, completely forgot about that. That most certainly is an important part of the game. I'll also include number of species eliminated.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2013, 11:15:49 am »

I'll take the first domination action.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2013, 06:59:19 pm »

Adaptation
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2013, 07:17:12 pm »

adaptation
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2013, 07:42:20 am »

Initiative
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Watno's turn
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2013, 05:50:19 pm »

second spot on Domination
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Watno's turn
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2013, 06:26:03 pm »

Speciation

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Watno's turn
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2013, 06:27:18 pm »

Speciation
Oh, I guess I have to specify a ressource type, right? If I do, I take "Sun"

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Watno's turn
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2013, 06:27:46 pm »

yes, you do. Sun it is.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2013, 10:38:02 am »

Liopoil,
Just want to say that I love love love all the information on the front page -- it's very helpful. Thanks!
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2013, 12:41:25 pm »

I take the grub speciation.

One thing I haven't figured out.  Other than the initiative action, does the turn order change at all during the game?  It looks like it should from the arrows on the board, but if it's in the rules I've missed it.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2013, 02:00:41 pm »

You only change turn order with Initiative. I don't even know what those arrows are really trying to explain, unless it's "move to the top, everyone else moves down" in which case it's kind of weird.
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2013, 03:27:17 pm »

You only change turn order with Initiative. I don't even know what those arrows are really trying to explain, unless it's "move to the top, everyone else moves down" in which case it's kind of weird.
They eliminated them from the 3rd edition board for that very reason.

I think the arrows just indicating turn order.  So Insects, then (following arrow) Arachnids, then Amphibians, etc...then Mammals, then back to Insects again.
It has nothing to do with the initiative action, just showing you how turns flow.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, planning phase Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2013, 04:51:31 pm »

turn order only changes via initiative. However, turn order only matters when we are placing AP. When we take off AP it is done from top to bottom left to right.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2013, 05:28:02 pm »

Glaciation
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2013, 05:31:57 pm »

abundance
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Theorel's turn
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2013, 09:07:22 pm »

Dominance
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Theorel's turn
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2013, 03:28:06 am »

Is Dominance so important that early or why is everyone choosing that?

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Theorel's turn
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2013, 06:58:11 am »

The dominance cards can be pretty game-changing.  (omnivore gives an extra action pawn, for instance).
And the main way to have domination effect a region where you have dominance (and hence get a card) is to take a domination action yourself.

I'm not sure how powerful this particular spread is on average, but there are at least a few useful cards there.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Theorel's turn
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2013, 07:33:55 am »

Meat speciation for me.

Btw, I forgot to answer this before: I played this once several years ago, and I don't even remember if we finished.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Theorel's turn
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2013, 08:06:09 am »

Dominance gets better as the game goes on. right now the omnivore card is far and away the best, the others are somewhat mediocre. I wouldn't have been surprised if only the first action got taken, because everyone else would know that hyramgraff is gonna get the omnivore.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2013, 02:39:37 pm »

updated. Qvist's turn.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Qvist's turn
« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2013, 03:56:03 pm »

Wanderlust

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, AP placement Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2013, 09:55:13 am »

Oh, 3 APs? Somehhow I thought it was only 2. Ouch.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, AP placement Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2013, 11:11:02 pm »

I take the jungle/wetland/tundra competition action.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, AP placement Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2013, 08:10:58 pm »

water speciation
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Seed speciation
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Abundance
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Cool! So Theorel can move up and place his AP again now, and we're ready to start the first execution phase?
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theorel moving his pawn is part of the execution phase.

Also:

(I don't know why)
« Last Edit: May 21, 2013, 04:50:32 pm by Watno »
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all updated. It is indeed the execution phase. theorel to place AP.
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I'll go ahead and take Wanderlust also.
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Sun

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Grass. TA now.
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Darn, was hoping to get one of those two. Oh well.

Take the Meat

Now, none of these are really good for me, darn. I guess I'll take one of the water tokens...

Take a water token, placing it on the bottom left of the mountain space

Not really sure what I should have done there..
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Darn, was hoping to get one of those two. Oh well.

Take the Meat

Now, none of these are really good for me, darn. I guess I'll take one of the water tokens...

Take a water token, placing it on the bottom left of the mountain space

Not really sure what I should have done there..

You can always forfeit an action if you don't want to use it.
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You could also put a water on the arachnids Jungle making him less likely to competition you there.  (since it robs him of dominance if he doesn't kill the amphibians)
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Anyways...I'm going to:
put a sun on the bottom right side of the mountain.
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Ooh, that's good. Unfortunately, I already decided and I feel bad using someone else's idea that I didn't see (quite unfair to both other players), but I will consider that for next time.
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So we've now got a 3-way tie for domination on the mountain tile..cool
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Well, it's mostly unfair against the players I suggested you hurt.  It helps me :)
If I were to suggest you take the sun (since I was pretty obviously going to do so), and you did so, that would be kind of unfair against me.

Also, do we need to announce dominance changes in thread?
I think we probably should, because we're more likely to recognize when we've caused someone to lose dominance...but I'm curious if it should be required for dominance to change.
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Well, I don't think it's necessary, since Liopoil is putting it all in on the website which he's getting the images from, which will change dominance regardless of whether or not we state it. It would be useful, but I don't think there should be a requirement.
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Ah, I wasn't sure since none of the dominance effects from element selection took effect.  But I guess he didn't have to change the board image (except for the dominance).
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So, to clarify...currently:
we're
tied on Savannah, Desert, and Mountain, correct?
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Yeah, it looks like the adaptation actions still haven't been entered.

I think we should definitely try to state it, though, especially when the thread gets ahead of the updates, just so someone's actions aren't changed based on not having information they should have.
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Yes, I believe you're correct.
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Well, it's mostly unfair against the players I suggested you hurt.  It helps me :)
If I were to suggest you take the sun (since I was pretty obviously going to do so), and you did so, that would be kind of unfair against me.

Also, do we need to announce dominance changes in thread?
I think we probably should, because we're more likely to recognize when we've caused someone to lose dominance...but I'm curious if it should be required for dominance to change.

I'm in favor of announcing dominance changes in the thread to be required.  It keeps both the letter and the spirit of the rules.  Because any player can announce a change in dominance, I think that Liopoil can announce what changes have happened.
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the changes do not happen automatically, I have to manually change the cones. I update the vassal file on my computer continuosly, and update the pictures in the OP whenever I think it gets to the point where people need to imagine too many things differently than they already are. (it's more work to update the pictures in the OP, I have to take a picture of the board, crop it, and upload it.) will update now. The picture of the main board will have dominance cones on them. If you ever think it is incorrect tell me.
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hmmmm... sorry TA, but glaciate: Forest
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speciate on Tundra, Tundra and Mountain (1,1,2). Claim dominance of Tundra in the middle.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, qvist to speciate sun
« Reply #94 on: May 23, 2013, 08:40:27 am »

1 on Tundra, 2 on Mountain, 2 on Desert

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, qvist to speciate sun
« Reply #95 on: May 23, 2013, 01:36:02 pm »

3 on Jungle, 1 on Tundra, 1 on Tundra
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, qvist to speciate sun
« Reply #96 on: May 23, 2013, 01:38:25 pm »

3 on Jungle, 1 on Tundra, 1 on Tundra

Claiming dominance on the Tundra in the middle.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, qvist to speciate sun
« Reply #97 on: May 23, 2013, 01:41:11 pm »

you're tied with QVist.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, qvist to speciate sun
« Reply #98 on: May 23, 2013, 01:42:44 pm »

Whoops, you're right -- was going off the fact that Watno still had dominance!
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, qvist to speciate sun
« Reply #99 on: May 23, 2013, 04:03:22 pm »

1 on tundra, 4 on wetland, 3 on savannah, claiming dominance of tundra.

updating now.
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I think you're tied with Qvist and I on the Tundra, Liopoil?
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no, I have four (3x water 1x grass), you have 3 (2x seed 1x meat), and Qvist has 3 (2x grass 1x sun)
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Oops didn't see that you had the grass as well
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, qvist to speciate sun
« Reply #103 on: May 24, 2013, 10:04:18 am »

1 on tundra, 4 on wetland, 3 on jungle.

Qvist gets his free speciation and then wanderlust.
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Free Speciation on mountain

Taking Jungle placing it between Mountain and Desert
Put Grass token between Desert and Jungle

Now we move right? It's in food chain order, does this mean I'm last or first in moving?

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I checked the example in the rules, I am first to move.

Move 3 species from the mountain.

theorel to move next.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2013, 07:36:39 pm by Watno »
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Also, the rules don't seem to prohibit this, but i feel it would make sense if i can't take a tile from the same stack Qvist took from.
Anyway, what's below the jungle?
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you do not get to know what is under the jungle until the end of the round, and you can't choose the tile under it. It stays face-down.
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the problem is, the vassal program shows the top tile immediately, so I find out what it is... It doesn't matter too much, because it isn't available until the next round, but still... so we should probably just make it public info, right?
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Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter much in that case.
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okay. The top tile is a sea.
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I'm curious as to why Qvist chose the jungle instead of savannah.
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Move both species from Desert to Jungle
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I'm assuming that means keep you species in the mountain there. TA up.
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That's right, yes.
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and now qvist.
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I'm curious as to why Qvist chose the jungle instead of savannah.

I don't know. Does it matter? Both give the same amount of points. Is there anything I'm missing?

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1 from the mountain, 2 from the desert

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I'm curious as to why Qvist chose the jungle instead of savannah.

I don't know. Does it matter? Both give the same amount of points. Is there anything I'm missing?
Check the first post again.  Jungle gives less points (except for third place)
Savannah: 7-4-2
Jungle: 6-3-2
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Place Savannah so it's only adjacent to Tundra.
Place Meat next to the seed on the right.
Move both species from Tundra to the Savannah.


TA may move into savannah
« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 08:24:57 am by Watno »
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there is a jungle under the savannah.
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hyramgraff passes. theorel place mountain tile
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #124 on: May 31, 2013, 07:03:43 am »

Place Mountain on E05 with sun on top left corner.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #125 on: May 31, 2013, 07:13:57 am »

The Jungle is on EO5. EO6 is directly below it, do you want to go there?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #126 on: May 31, 2013, 08:00:22 am »

Yes
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #127 on: May 31, 2013, 09:15:01 am »

Move 1 species
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #128 on: May 31, 2013, 09:19:41 am »

Move 2 species
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #129 on: May 31, 2013, 09:22:38 am »

hyramgrafff competing the dominating now.

Sry, Qvist may move first.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 09:50:16 am by Watno »
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #130 on: May 31, 2013, 09:49:29 am »

Um...QVist might want to move also.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #131 on: May 31, 2013, 09:50:29 am »

Oops, sorry.
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I have no idea if I should go there. Let's move one species there.

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Free competition: Kill one of the birds on the new tundra.

Competition AP: Kill the insect in the wetland, the amphibian in the jungle and the other bird on the new tundra.  Claim dominance of the tundra.  Claim the survival card.

Domination AP: Score the jungle I'm on.  Claim Omnivore.

I think that covers everything.  Can we have a new image please?
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update coming soon.
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Score my Savannah.
take Symbiotic
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That was a rough first turn for the birds...I don't even think I can recover from this, I'm so far behind :/
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you'd be surprised. This game can swing very very fast. I've gone from last to first place on the last round. about 1/3 of the points usually come on the last turn.
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the reason for that is because how mean people are to you is a major part of how well you do. When you aren't doing well, people leave you alone and use their competitions and glaciations, etc on the leader.
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That's true. And it doesn't seem as though the leader gets much of an advantage over the other players, in terms of actions or anything.
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That was a rough first turn for the birds...I don't even think I can recover from this, I'm so far behind :/

Actually, you're really in the middle of the pack right now because of the VPs you scored in the jungle.

It's possible to win the game without any species on the board.  I'm guessing that doesn't happen often, so I'll let someone who's played the game before now speak to that.
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technically possible, but that's never going to actually happen.

VPs don't matter at all right now.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to dominate
« Reply #142 on: June 06, 2013, 06:08:18 pm »

updated, theorel up, tell me if anything seems wrong.

hyramgraff, I don't know how to give you an extra action pawn on VASSAL.
Watno gets a sun from his symbiotic
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to dominate
« Reply #143 on: June 06, 2013, 09:42:33 pm »

The first post says that nobody has the survival card, but I should have it.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to dominate
« Reply #144 on: June 06, 2013, 09:43:34 pm »

ahh, right.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to dominate
« Reply #145 on: June 07, 2013, 07:14:57 am »

Score Mountain where I'm dominant.  Take Evolution Card.
Replace Arachnid in central Tundra and Amphibian in Savannah.  Arachnids lose survival card.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #146 on: June 07, 2013, 03:18:55 pm »

end of round! nobody goes extint, nobody gets survival card, reset, new round, Qvist is up!
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #147 on: June 09, 2013, 08:02:52 pm »

bump for qvist.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #149 on: June 18, 2013, 05:14:12 pm »

...qvist....
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #150 on: June 18, 2013, 05:29:33 pm »

Oops sorry. Missed this. Will submit move tomorrow because I forgot what most of the spots do.

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #151 on: June 19, 2013, 08:34:44 pm »

Wasteland

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #152 on: June 20, 2013, 10:24:30 am »

First Adaptation
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #153 on: June 20, 2013, 03:27:31 pm »

Wanderlust
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #154 on: June 20, 2013, 03:28:20 pm »

Adaptation
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #155 on: June 20, 2013, 03:31:19 pm »

well, I don't WANT to let you take it back, because that hurts me, but yes, you may.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #156 on: June 20, 2013, 03:32:02 pm »

oh, you just deleted it. Do you want to go initiative or adaptation?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #157 on: June 20, 2013, 03:32:17 pm »

I'm sticking with adaptation...sorry for the confusion.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #158 on: June 20, 2013, 03:32:37 pm »

got it. TA up.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #159 on: June 20, 2013, 03:48:57 pm »

Initiative
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #160 on: June 21, 2013, 10:49:49 pm »

Wanderlust

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #161 on: June 22, 2013, 12:49:50 pm »

Can we get an image update of the actions?  It's a bit hard to keep track of all the actions so far.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #162 on: June 22, 2013, 01:58:49 pm »

done.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #163 on: June 22, 2013, 02:01:02 pm »

oh wait! sorry guys, we skipped watno! So ignore qvist's pawn on wanderlust, it shouldn't be there. It is watno's turn, then qvist, then hyramgraff.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #164 on: June 22, 2013, 03:42:19 pm »

Glaciation
Sorry for the delay.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #165 on: June 22, 2013, 03:43:02 pm »

qvist, still want wanderlust?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #166 on: June 24, 2013, 11:56:25 am »

qvist, still want wanderlust?

Indeed and sorry for the skip, Watno.

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #167 on: June 25, 2013, 10:57:26 am »

Abundance
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #168 on: June 27, 2013, 08:01:16 pm »

Bump for Lio. I'm finding it hard to form / keep a strategy or understand what's going on with so many pauses :/
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #169 on: June 27, 2013, 08:09:09 pm »

whoops, hold on
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #170 on: June 27, 2013, 08:41:27 pm »

Domination
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #171 on: June 28, 2013, 09:57:50 am »

Wanderlust
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #172 on: July 01, 2013, 02:50:09 pm »

Wanderlust
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #173 on: July 01, 2013, 02:51:18 pm »

sorry TA, theorel took the last one.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #174 on: July 01, 2013, 02:52:23 pm »

Blah. Let's go Domination then
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #175 on: July 04, 2013, 06:28:32 am »

theorel?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #176 on: July 04, 2013, 07:15:40 am »

It's your turn, watno.  My turn was before TwistedArcher's.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #177 on: July 04, 2013, 07:39:18 am »

Oops, I was looking at the wrong order. Sorry.

Domination
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #178 on: July 04, 2013, 05:37:12 pm »

Then, it's my turn, right?

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #179 on: July 04, 2013, 05:54:52 pm »

Migration (7)
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #180 on: July 06, 2013, 09:28:45 pm »

whoops, I'll update and take my turn tommorow.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #181 on: July 07, 2013, 10:47:14 am »

Speciate Grass
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #182 on: July 07, 2013, 07:54:00 pm »

speciate sun
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #183 on: July 07, 2013, 08:45:38 pm »

Speciate Seed
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #184 on: July 08, 2013, 09:07:33 am »

Abundance

BTW: I think it would be helpful if you indicated in the OP when the images were last updated, so you can check more quickly what you have to factor in.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #185 on: July 08, 2013, 10:52:13 am »

Hyramgraff to go once more, then we start the execution phase, right?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #186 on: July 08, 2013, 12:52:51 pm »

Adaptation
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Planning Phase, Watno's turn
« Reply #187 on: July 08, 2013, 12:55:03 pm »

Starting execution phase!

Move to Migration
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #188 on: July 09, 2013, 11:34:42 am »

Grass
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #189 on: July 09, 2013, 11:59:03 am »

Seed
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #190 on: July 09, 2013, 12:22:13 pm »

Grub

Theorel to execute regression next.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #191 on: July 09, 2013, 04:01:11 pm »

I missed that you were on adaptation.  I totally would have taken grub if I'd noticed...(I just expected no one would waste an action pawn like that, so figured I had essentially locked out the third adaptation space.)

Anyways, I'll choose to activate my regression pawn (does that even really need to be a question?)
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #192 on: July 09, 2013, 04:20:23 pm »

I missed that you were on adaptation.  I totally would have taken grub if I'd noticed...(I just expected no one would waste an action pawn like that, so figured I had essentially locked out the third adaptation space.)

Anyways, I'll choose to activate my regression pawn (does that even really need to be a question?)

Yeah, I placed my fourth AP on the last space as a gamble.

For Abundance: Grass on the top right of Watno's savanah.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #193 on: July 09, 2013, 04:25:14 pm »

Meat between the jungle and the mountain on the bottom right.

Thanks for putting info about update timing in the OP, however I think it would be more useful if you noted the last action already processed instead of the date and time.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #194 on: July 09, 2013, 04:26:19 pm »

woah, lotsa stuff happened. updating.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #195 on: July 17, 2013, 11:59:37 am »

Bump for Qvist.  (Should we get a replacement?)
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #196 on: July 17, 2013, 01:03:58 pm »

I should have Dominance on the Jungle and the Mountain in the bottom right.
I think we need a replacement, but I fear it will be hard to find one.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #197 on: July 29, 2013, 05:06:30 pm »

Is this game now dead?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #198 on: July 29, 2013, 05:11:31 pm »

well, waiting for someone to volunteer to replace qvist...
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #199 on: August 06, 2013, 08:57:12 am »

It would be awesome if we could get a replacement.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #200 on: August 07, 2013, 06:20:50 pm »

OK, I think I have a (tenuous) grasp of the rules, so...

Swap in for Qvist
Remove Grass from the Wasteland box


So now the Water adjacent to the Tundra gets removed - and Insects dominate the upper-right Savannah tile, right?  Also, Amphibians lose dominance in the central Tundra, correct?  Just making sure I understand how the mechanics work.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #201 on: August 08, 2013, 08:56:56 am »

I think that's right.
I glaciate the top left jungle
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #202 on: August 08, 2013, 09:54:52 am »

Speciate (meat):  3 insects to B05, 1 to C04
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #203 on: August 08, 2013, 09:59:45 am »

Speciate: 2 on D05, 3 on E05
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #204 on: August 12, 2013, 08:03:33 am »

BUMP
TwistedArcher to speciate, liopoil needs to update gamestate first probably.

Actually I think Twisted can only speciate to C04/D05.  so it's just a question of if he wants to not do that for some reason.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #205 on: August 12, 2013, 08:19:07 am »

Or if he doesn't want to put down the maximum number of species. I forgot about this, will update OP soon.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #206 on: August 12, 2013, 11:40:54 am »

Argh I don't know what the heck I did wrong, but I'm already left with like 3 species and yeah hm I am not understanding something about this game.

Speciate C04/D05.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Qvist's turn
« Reply #207 on: August 12, 2013, 01:14:29 pm »

speciate grass between wetland and savannah. voltgloss to use his free speciation. updating. spoiler: the board looks quite a bit different.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #208 on: August 12, 2013, 03:04:47 pm »

Speciate: D03
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #209 on: August 17, 2013, 11:45:50 am »

speciate, liopoil?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #210 on: August 17, 2013, 01:06:35 pm »

He needs to wanderlust actually.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #211 on: August 17, 2013, 04:59:47 pm »

VG - which tile are you placing your species on, the tundra, or the wetland? DO3 is the tundra, but people have been using those letter/number things for the space above it, which makes sense and in those scenarios it's clear that's what they mean.

then I'll wanderlust.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #212 on: August 17, 2013, 07:13:41 pm »

VG - which tile are you placing your species on, the tundra, or the wetland? DO3 is the tundra, but people have been using those letter/number things for the space above it, which makes sense and in those scenarios it's clear that's what they mean.

then I'll wanderlust.

The wetland.  I thought D03 is the wetland.  As you say, I see people using the letter/number things to refer to the space above, and the space above D03 is the wetland - right?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #213 on: August 17, 2013, 08:35:27 pm »

nope, DO3 is the tundra.  Everyone has been getting it wrong, this is the first time it's ambiguous. anyway:

put a sea in CO1 with a grass in the upper left corner of the wetland. TA do you want to move in?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 1, Execution phase, Theorel to Wanderlust
« Reply #214 on: August 17, 2013, 09:58:22 pm »

nope, DO3 is the tundra.  Everyone has been getting it wrong, this is the first time it's ambiguous.
I think you've confused yourself, as this is in contradiction to what you said earlier (when I was placing the mountain), and also based on the look of the board.
D06 is the empty space (printed outside the board)
D05=Mountain
D04=Tundra
D03=Wetlands

You just placed a sea in C02.

The Jungle is on EO5. EO6 is directly below it, do you want to go there?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #215 on: August 18, 2013, 02:00:57 pm »

Not moving in
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #216 on: August 18, 2013, 02:29:07 pm »

The picture in the OP is misleading, and I got it wrong before.

on the vassal board, at the top of the board, there is a space where "C00" is written. above it, is the scoring track. so there has to be a bunch of spacs that there isn't actually a space to place a tile. it's at the bottom of the board. I know this because whenever I move a piece, it keeps a log of what I did. If I move a species from the tundra to the wetland is says "Cube moves D03 -> D02 *" when I move it to the space right under the "D06" marker which looks like it's talking about the empty space above it, it says I moved it to D06.

I move 7 in. hyramgraff to move in.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #217 on: August 19, 2013, 10:07:35 am »

Move two from the wetland.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #218 on: August 19, 2013, 11:05:22 am »

Move 1 insect from D02 to C01.

Wanderlust: 
- Place a sea tile at E01.
- Place a sun token at the upper-right corner of the D02 wetland.


theorel to decide on moving in.

(Someone check me if I've got the Wanderlust rules wrong.  Thanks.)
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #219 on: August 19, 2013, 12:13:32 pm »

I'll move 1.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #220 on: August 20, 2013, 10:41:54 am »

lio's next I believe.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #221 on: August 26, 2013, 12:21:32 pm »

Bump
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #222 on: August 26, 2013, 03:34:19 pm »

Move 3 from savannah, 1 from wetland

hyramgraff to move in. updating.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #223 on: August 26, 2013, 04:00:12 pm »

Move 1 from wetland.

I don't know who is next.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #224 on: August 26, 2013, 04:25:09 pm »

voltgloss is
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #225 on: August 26, 2013, 04:30:02 pm »

Move 1 from savannah.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #226 on: August 27, 2013, 10:11:55 am »

theorel to wanderlust.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #227 on: August 27, 2013, 10:27:48 am »

Jungle in D06, no element

watno first to wander in.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #228 on: August 27, 2013, 10:40:58 am »

Move in 1 from Jungle
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #229 on: August 27, 2013, 10:44:41 am »

Move 1 from Jungle, and 1 from each mountain.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #230 on: August 27, 2013, 11:07:28 am »

TA then voltgloss to move in. then I'll update, and hyramgraff then TA will migrate.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Theorel's turn
« Reply #231 on: August 30, 2013, 03:20:11 pm »

Could you update title for TwistedArcher?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #232 on: August 30, 2013, 03:39:28 pm »

pass
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #233 on: September 03, 2013, 10:34:50 am »

Move 1 from Jungle.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #234 on: September 11, 2013, 12:06:56 pm »

Bump
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #235 on: September 11, 2013, 12:57:35 pm »

I'm sorry, I was waiting for the first post to be updated and then this never showed up on the new replies list.

Migrate 1 from wetland to starting tundra, 1 from wetland to savanah and 1 from the sea that has two to the wetland.  Claim dominance on the starting tundra (not that it really matters much.)

This should leave seven different tiles with one species each.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #236 on: September 14, 2013, 08:59:18 pm »

TA's turn now
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #237 on: September 14, 2013, 09:15:54 pm »

volt has dominance in E01, not me.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #238 on: September 19, 2013, 06:33:03 pm »

Move one from the upper left tundra down to the tundra below.

Sorry, I am finding this game super hard to get into never having played before, and with such long pauses.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #239 on: September 19, 2013, 08:39:14 pm »

Sorry, I am finding this game super hard to get into never having played before, and with such long pauses.

I'm having this problem too.  I keep forgetting my "strategy" (to the extent I have one).
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #240 on: September 19, 2013, 09:29:21 pm »

@TA: you realize you can move up to 6 animals up to 2 spaces each? That means you can move pretty much all your cubes.

Given that your claiming domination this turn, you might want to try to get majority somewhere where no one else can claim a dominance card.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #241 on: September 19, 2013, 09:31:31 pm »

@TA: you realize you can move up to 6 animals up to 2 spaces each? That means you can move pretty much all your cubes.

Given that your claiming domination this turn, you might want to try to get majority somewhere where no one else can claim a dominance card.

Wait, I haven't read the rules for awhile. But I thought that I could only use domination on a space where I had a cone. Since all of my spaces got frozen off the board (and I have no idea what I did wrong for this to happen?) I don't have anywhere to go for domination, right?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #242 on: September 19, 2013, 09:55:15 pm »

You can claim domination on any hex.  When domination is claimed on a hex, the hex is scored for all cubes present, and then whoever has dominance gets to claim a dominance card.

It's perfectly viable to claim domination on a hex where you don't have dominance but will get a bunch of points.

There are a couple reasons you don't have dominance anywhere:
1. there are almost no seeds on the board.  There are 2 reasons for this: 1. you didn't take abundance to put another seed on the board (or wanderlust if there were any seeds there).  2. You didn't take glaciate, so the people who did take it glaciated your other seed off the board.  Now you're in even greater danger because the seed you didn't place is going to remove the last seed from the board next turn.

2. There are a lot of suns on the board AND 2 of the other species have sun elements (in particular mammals getting sun).  This is just bad luck (for you and me) mammals got 1 random draw from the bag, and got sun.  If they'd gotten grub this wouldn't be an issue.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #243 on: September 21, 2013, 02:50:12 pm »

so, TA, would you like to change your turn?

theorel pretty much said it all. you can use the domination on whatever tile you like. Whoever has the cone gets to take a card. How many points you get is decided by who has the most species.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #244 on: September 23, 2013, 07:59:22 pm »

No takebacks, let's roll with it.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #245 on: September 29, 2013, 10:47:12 am »

okay, hyramgraff to use his free competition
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #246 on: September 29, 2013, 10:29:30 pm »

okay, hyramgraff to use his free competition

Eliminate the bird that just moved.  Claim the Survival card.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #247 on: September 30, 2013, 05:38:06 pm »

Dominate the upper-left sea tile, liopoil gets 9 points, Hyramgraff gets 5, Voltgloss gets 3. Choose the domination card Predator

eliminate arachnid on upper-left sea, arachnid on wetland, reptile on upper right sea, insect on savannah, arachnid on the only tundra tile I'm on.

updating.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, Hyramgraff's turn
« Reply #248 on: September 30, 2013, 05:46:01 pm »

updated except for images, which I am updating now. TA to dominate. Let me know if you would like a list of what domination cards have been used, and which are left in the deck.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #249 on: October 05, 2013, 12:50:28 pm »

Dominate the mountain at D05, Iguess
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #250 on: October 05, 2013, 01:02:13 pm »

Take Ecodiversity for 9 VP.
Dominate bottom mountain.
Take the free glaciation action to glaciate the top left sea.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, turn 2, Excecution Phase, TwistedArcher's turn
« Reply #251 on: October 06, 2013, 04:10:48 pm »

all that happens.

extinction - I'm fairly sure that everyone lives, someone can double check that if they want...

survival card - voltgloss gets it because of that last glaciation, he gets 6 points

reseed - that happens.

updating now...
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #252 on: October 06, 2013, 04:25:10 pm »

done, voltlgoss up.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #253 on: October 06, 2013, 04:47:15 pm »

I don't think i like that parasitism event.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #254 on: October 06, 2013, 05:20:59 pm »

Oh man, it's been literally two months since I read the rules on what the different actions do.  Uh.  I'm gonna need a little time to do that again.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #255 on: October 10, 2013, 09:32:45 am »

Sorry to delay this gang.  Been a very busy week.  I should have time to refamiliarize myself with the rules and get a move in by tomorrow evening.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #256 on: October 13, 2013, 08:12:57 pm »

Bump for voltgloss.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #257 on: October 14, 2013, 03:06:38 pm »

Sorry for delay all.  I'm still far from sure about things here, but it's not fair for me to hold things up.

Place a pawn on Domination.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #258 on: October 14, 2013, 10:12:37 pm »

Initiative

If someone else wants to take one of the grasses in adaptation, I will happily spend an action on regression next round.  (Although you might have to remind me that I said this two months from now.)
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #259 on: October 19, 2013, 04:32:39 pm »

liopoil?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, Voltgloss' turn
« Reply #260 on: October 21, 2013, 11:43:03 am »

Wanderlust
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #261 on: October 26, 2013, 03:55:24 am »

Sorry for suddenly dropping out of this game, guys. Thanks Voltgloss for subbing in.

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #262 on: November 03, 2013, 05:40:23 pm »

TA?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #263 on: November 04, 2013, 08:25:24 pm »

Speciate Grass
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #264 on: November 04, 2013, 09:46:21 pm »

Glaciate
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #265 on: November 07, 2013, 03:58:10 pm »

Adaption
Volt up again.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #266 on: November 07, 2013, 04:47:38 pm »

Now to make time to read the rulebook (again) and figure out what I was thinking (again)!

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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #267 on: November 20, 2013, 04:09:04 pm »

Volt?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #268 on: December 08, 2013, 07:54:48 pm »

volt's been gone for a while again...

at this point, with the game having been going for so long and so slowly and not near the finish, I'm willing to just call it quits... should we try to keep going or not?
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #269 on: December 09, 2013, 12:12:18 pm »

I'm also willing to call it quits.
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Re: PBF Dominant Species, Round 3, Planning Phase, TA' turn
« Reply #270 on: December 09, 2013, 02:08:07 pm »

Would call it quits. I want to play this in person before attempting it pbf.
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