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League of Legends
« on: April 05, 2013, 05:55:18 pm »
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So I saw the Dota 2 thread and I've been playing LoL for a little while now and tried Dota 2. I have to say I prefer LoL. I don't like the minions in Dota as well as some of the core mechanics (most of the changes). I haven't written Dota 2 off forever yet but I won't be playing again for a while.

That said is there any forumers out there who play LoL?
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Re: LOL
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2013, 05:58:14 pm »
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Most misleading topic name yet  >:(
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Re: LOL
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2013, 06:03:26 pm »
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Most misleading topic name yet  >:(

LOL!
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Re: LOL
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2013, 06:07:31 pm »
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Most misleading topic name yet  >:(

Is that a challenge?
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Re: LOL
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2013, 06:21:56 pm »
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I am the most casual of casuals. Play 1 bot game a day just to get the win of the day bonus. Then spend it all on runes instead of champions.
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Re: LOL
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2013, 06:25:12 pm »
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I am the most casual of casuals. Play 1 bot game a day just to get the win of the day bonus. Then spend it all on runes instead of champions.
Actually, spending it on runes instead of champs is tryharding, not being casual.  You're going for the maximum advantage :)
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Re: LOL
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2013, 06:32:21 pm »
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Never underestimate the power of the Scout's code. 

A-a-armed and ready!

Captain Teemo o-o-on duty.  Yes sir!  Hup-two-three-four, never underestimate the power of the Scout's code. 

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Re: LOL
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2013, 07:06:15 pm »
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Most misleading topic name yet  >:(

Is that a challenge?
No, most misleading was Cache Use. Oh, man.
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Re: LOL
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2013, 12:38:21 am »
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what are minions? what mechanics don't you like in dota?
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Re: LOL
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2013, 01:44:43 am »
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This entire topic went right over my head.
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Re: LOL
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2013, 11:23:26 am »
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what are minions? what mechanics don't you like in dota?

Things you focus on last hitting that aren't champions. In Dota they are all neutral and you can actually fight your opponent over who gets the kill. In LoL they are team aligned so I'm not fighting my opponent directly over minion last hits. In addition there is 2 identical jungles filled with neutral minions some of the harder ones providing buffs and respawning less frequently.

The two things that made it hard for me to like dota was the lack of allied minions, as much as Jungler is my favourite role in league, I don't want to have to jungle with every character. The inability to lock the camera to my character was also a deal breaker for me, I like to be lazy and only unlock my camera when it's necessary.

Smaller things that weren't deal breakers were I was less attached to the cast of characters, and in league there was an item that was super op to the point where every carry had to buy it. Every carry gets it for free in dota (I don't have the name of the item off the top of my head). I also wasn't thrilled with the slower pace of the game.

All that said I do want to try Dota2 again at some point just not immediately itchin to play it
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2013, 12:13:46 pm »
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There are creeps for both sides in DotA. I don't really get why you think they aren't team aligned. There's also 2 jungles in Dota, though while their identical regarding what creeps are in there, the layout is quite different.
You really aren't forced to jungle with evry hero in Dota, there aren't enough creeps for everyone in the jungle, and leaving lanes empty is a waste usually (it's sometimes done in high-level competitive play though). I guess this refers back to you thinking all creeps are neutral?

Btw, you can bind "lock camera on hero" to a key using the console, even though it's not available in the options menu.

Can you describe what that ridiculously powerful item for carries does? I have no idea what you could be refering to?

I'm really a bit confused wether you tried the same Dota 2 I'm playing :P
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2013, 12:21:22 pm »
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He may have been confused by denial. Ins, you can kill your own allied "minions" in dota2 to deny the enemy last hits.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2013, 12:31:34 pm »
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There's still a pretty huge difference between both sides creeps:
1) Your own creeps attack the enemy's creeps, towers, and heroes. Most enemy structures will regenerate heavily if you attack them without creeps nearby, so it's not feasibly to push without them until late in the game.
2) When you lasthit an enemy creep you get gold.
3) When an enemy creep dies near you, you get experience (100% if killed by your side, 66% if denied by the enemy and you're melee, 33% if denied by the enemy and you're ranged, 0 if it died to neutrals or was denied with a spell)
4)You can't attack your own creeps unless they have low health.
I think 1) is enough to stop them from possibly being considered neutral.

Neutral creeps give gold to whoever lasthits them and experience to people from the killing side nearby. They attack both sides if aggressed.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2013, 09:51:21 pm »
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He may have been confused by denial. Ins, you can kill your own allied "minions" in dota2 to deny the enemy last hits.
It's practically the same thing.  It's a double negative, loss of gold, loss applies to opponent, -1*-1=1
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2013, 09:29:17 am »
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Not really. That's like saying in a Dominion game, trashing an opponent's gold is the same as gaining a gold for yourself. It's not just about the difference.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2013, 08:26:28 pm »
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Trashing an opponent's gold is a very close approximation to gaining a gold for yourself. 
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2013, 08:27:37 pm »
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My brother (mcmcsalot) hasn't commented here, but I know him to be a big LoL player. I've never played, myself.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2013, 08:44:15 pm »
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he commented about it a lot in the dota 2 thread.
pops, I disagree. it depends on the circumstances.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2013, 09:49:54 am »
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Ah, I am here :)

Although I have been taking a break, I am an extremely dedicated lol player. I have been playing since beta 4 years ago I am approaching owning every single champion in the game(I have 3 left) then it will be on to all the runes! I have played 4000 games. I rarely play ranked(I have a group of 12 friends who all play regularly on a vent server) but last season a friend and I played for about a week and got to gold.

I follow the professional scene very closely, I have followed most of the na teams since there beginnings and know the history behind many of the eu teams. The Asian scene is hard to keep up with, they have a lot of different leagues, and obviously I am less familiar with names and faces so when players change teams or teams change sponsors it's quite hard to follow.

I think I actually like watching/discussing lol more than I like playing it.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2013, 09:56:35 am »
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I know as a lol player, Dota creeps(minions) look very different and are extremely hard to get used to. Because Dota is more graphically complex than lol, it's hard for us lol players to tell what we are supposed to be doing. Lol has a lot of simple color coordination so you know the minions that are on your team an the ones that are the enemy minions. Denial isn't that foreign to me but I played lol when you could deny.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2013, 12:46:30 pm »
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I know as a lol player, Dota creeps(minions) look very different and are extremely hard to get used to. Because Dota is more graphically complex than lol, it's hard for us lol players to tell what we are supposed to be doing. Lol has a lot of simple color coordination so you know the minions that are on your team an the ones that are the enemy minions. Denial isn't that foreign to me but I played lol when you could deny.

I guess this is just because you're used to LoL minions. I think the creeps from both sides look quite different. Also green healthbars and red healthbars are something i'd consider simple color coordination as well.
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2013, 12:54:11 pm »
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I know as a lol player, Dota creeps(minions) look very different and are extremely hard to get used to. Because Dota is more graphically complex than lol, it's hard for us lol players to tell what we are supposed to be doing. Lol has a lot of simple color coordination so you know the minions that are on your team an the ones that are the enemy minions. Denial isn't that foreign to me but I played lol when you could deny.

I guess this is just because you're used to LoL minions. I think the creeps from both sides look quite different. Also green healthbars and red healthbars are something i'd consider simple color coordination as well.

Yes, that's sort of what I meant. Which every you play first is what makes sense. I am sure lol looks very simple and childish to Dota players, the map color scheme of the game is very basic. To lol players Dota looks crazy complicated, at least it does for me. I do think its whichever you play first.

Anyway, before we turn this thread into another Dota vs Lol thread, I would like to stay on topic. Insom who is your favorite champion and why?
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2013, 04:00:08 am »
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There are soo many Champions. One favorite is not enough. I could maybe name one for each role.

However Dr. Mundo is really fun :D
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Re: League of Legends
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2013, 10:22:46 am »
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There are soo many Champions. One favorite is not enough. I could maybe name one for each role.

However Dr. Mundo is really fun :D

haha, man I think mundo on a winning team is one of the most fun champions to play. Similarly as singed is the most fun to play on a losing team. You just run around and do whatever you want. I once stayed in the enemy base for 20 full minutes as mundo, that ulti cooldown so op.
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