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« on: April 01, 2013, 06:14:07 pm »
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http://boardgamestrategy.net

Consider it a public beta.  Please let us know if you have any suggestions or if you see any problems.

In particular, please let us know:

a) what games, if any, you would like to help write a blog for;
b) what games, if any, you would like to see.

The new system makes it very easy to start new game blogs.  If you want to run a blog for a game, it is as simple as sending me your email and the blog is yours to run as you see fit.  Multiple users can be added to a game.

Note that the forum can now be accessed via http://boardgamestrategy.net/forum.  You will have to re-login, but the underlying forum database is the same (i.e., all user accounts, posts, etc. are intact).
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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2013, 06:20:02 pm »
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It looks legit at first blush. If this is an April Fool's Day prank, it's a weird one. If not, why in the world would you announce it today?  :)
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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2013, 06:28:19 pm »
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a) None, I'm so bad at them all
b) None, I spend too much time playing too many of them already.
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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2013, 06:49:01 pm »
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I'd love to see Terra Mystica and TTA. I suck at writing articles though.
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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2013, 07:06:43 pm »
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I'd add Power Grid as well, but I'm not nearly experienced enough to write articles on it.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2013, 07:31:10 pm »
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Could we get a Monopoly strategy site going?
« Last Edit: April 02, 2013, 01:05:04 am by rrenaud »
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2013, 07:48:11 pm »
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I've mentioned it elsewhere, but I think Android: NetrunnerStrategy is going to be a thing somewhere, so it might as well be here. I am not sure how much overlap there currently is between competitive Dominion players and competitive Netrunner players, but the forums over at BGG are pretty active, but as everybody knows, those forums are not ideal for this sort of thing. With some advertising to lure those people to a site/subforum dedicated to Netrunner, I think there could be a really strong and active community built. There is also an online implementation that's fairly popular.

Also would enjoy seeing Terra Mystica, Power Grid, RFTG.

I don't think I'm good enough at any of these games to write strategy for them right now, though. :-[
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2013, 07:53:51 pm »
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Yikes, and I was about to suggest my ideas for fan properties in Monopoly with when-buy effects.
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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2013, 08:05:06 pm »
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fantastic stuff theory (and rrenaud?). well done.

i would like to see some power grid and/or puerto rico content myself. i might be up for writing a puerto rico article or two but i would probably want to log some more games first.

as for other games, where do you think the line should be drawn between strategy level and bringing in new users? games like settlers or ticket to ride are lower strategy but they would probably bring in more users to the site.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2013, 08:35:55 pm »
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I think those are absolutely fine!  I don't think Catan/TTR are too "low" at all -- else how can you explain my friend consistently beating me at them?

Where I would draw the line is something like Fluxx.
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2013, 08:38:42 pm »
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I think those are absolutely fine!  I don't think Catan/TTR are too "low" at all -- else how can you explain my friend consistently beating me at them?

Where I would draw the line is something like Fluxx.

Hey! No knocking Fluxx! There's lots of strategy in, uh, well... Memorizing the Goals and most frequent Keepers, then, uh, "drawing" them together! :P
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2013, 08:47:19 pm »
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Could we get a Monopoly strategy site going?

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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2013, 09:02:11 pm »
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I would love to read Carcassonne articles, but I'm not a very good player at any game really, so I can't help with the writing  :-\
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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2013, 09:11:41 pm »
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Could we get a Monopoly strategy site going?

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2013, 09:13:40 pm »
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theory could you please send a pm to rrenaud and ask him to reconsider.  I thought it was a joke too until I tried to log in.
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2013, 10:12:37 pm »
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Can't tell if meta-joking or not, but you are not banned.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2013, 10:21:52 pm »
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So f.bgs is just f.ds with a different heading?
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2013, 10:29:33 pm »
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2013, 10:44:53 pm »
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theory could you please send a pm to rrenaud and ask him to reconsider.  I thought it was a joke too until I tried to log in.

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2013, 10:45:00 pm »
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So f.bgs is just f.ds with a different heading?

Yep.  The forum is literally the same.  New posts show up here and there.
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2013, 12:51:05 am »
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How about some Agricola strategy?
I know a little, but i'm not sure I'd be good at writing an article on it.  But I could give it a shot

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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2013, 01:03:45 am »
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Something that would be interesting...  If there was a different forum for each game, maybe there could be a forum for general discussion/forum games?  It might work...
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2013, 03:57:03 am »
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How about some Agricola strategy?
http://play-agricola.com/forums/

I think games that could be added here are ones that:
- have an active community dedicated to advanced level play,
- don't already have an established place for this community to discuss,
- preferably some interested players already are here because they play Dominion as well.
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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2013, 08:23:35 am »
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I feel comfortable writing a few articles on Power Grid. I'll probably start writing something today and if there's not an obvious place for me to put it when I'm done with a draft, I'll find some place to stick it.

Wow. I didn't mean it like that. Whoops. Too late to change it though.

My first article will be entitled "Power Grid takes less than an hour to play."

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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2013, 09:30:37 am »
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theory could you please send a pm to rrenaud and ask him to reconsider.  I thought it was a joke too until I tried to log in.

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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2013, 09:51:02 am »
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Power Grid, Race for the Galaxy, Tichu.
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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2013, 09:55:45 am »
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Puerto Rico.
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Re: Board Game Strategy
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2013, 10:08:11 am »
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How about some Agricola strategy?
http://play-agricola.com/forums/

I think games that could be added here are ones that:
- have an active community dedicated to advanced level play,
- don't already have an established place for this community to discuss,
- preferably some interested players already are here because they play Dominion as well.

Ha, that looks pretty cool!  I wonder if there is some way to help combine our efforts.  Do you know any admin there?

I would add that online-play is basically a must, ideally with logs.  RFTG meets this criteria, I think?  Tichu sort of does since there's a third-party thing that tracks BSW logs.
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« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2013, 11:07:48 am »
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Here's a problem I see, and this goes for several games:

Power Grid is now 11 years old.  High level competitive Power Grid died years ago; once you've memorized the power plants and can count the cash each of your opponents has, there's very little more than overarching strategy, and that strategy can be taken care of in maybe three things that we would think of as "articles."  The exception would be expansion maps... each of which is probably worthy of a single article.

I worry that trying to shoehorn older, well-analyzed games--or just those for which two articles is essentially sufficient--is really necessary.
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« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2013, 11:19:42 am »
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You are probably right for some games, but I disagree in the case of Power Grid.

Off the top of my head I can think of 6 specific articles I could write about Power Grid today. I'd say there are about 10 I could write total and at least 15-20 that could be written, not including anything about expansion maps.

If that particular resource exists for Power Grid today -- something you would consider an exhaustive collection of strategy, umm, stuff -- well I've looked for it and haven't found it. There is much more to Power Grid than "Count other people's money, memorize the power plants, try not to buy cities you can't power" and if something that covers that stuff is out there already then maybe we shouldn't do it here, but otherwise I don't see the harm in generating that resource.
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« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2013, 11:21:23 am »
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If that particular resource exists for Power Grid today -- something you would consider an exhaustive collection of strategy, umm, stuff -- well I've looked for it and haven't found it.

I concur with this statement.
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« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2013, 11:34:13 am »
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You are probably right for some games, but I disagree in the case of Power Grid.

Off the top of my head I can think of 6 specific articles I could write about Power Grid today. I'd say there are about 10 I could write total and at least 15-20 that could be written, not including anything about expansion maps.

Interesting.  Well, I'd certainly be interested in reading, then.
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« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2013, 11:36:39 am »
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You are probably right for some games, but I disagree in the case of Power Grid.

Off the top of my head I can think of 6 specific articles I could write about Power Grid today. I'd say there are about 10 I could write total and at least 15-20 that could be written, not including anything about expansion maps.

Interesting.  Well, I'd certainly be interested in reading, then.

I'll brainstorm and come up with a list of articles that I think would be relevant.
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« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2013, 12:01:32 pm »
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The new system we are on makes it ridiculously easy to start a new blog.  You want powergrid.boardgamestrategy.net, or tichu.boardgamestrategy.net, just send me your email and it is yours to run as you see fit.  We host it, you administer it.
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« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2013, 12:07:45 pm »
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Oh wow, I didn't see that coming.

That would actually be pretty awesome, provided I have the time for it. What's the commitment like? I usually don't check f.ds at all on weekends, is that kind of a thing a problem?

Anyways I'll PM you my E-mail address I guess... (edit: ha, there's a little button below my avatar that send me E-mail. How cute.)
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« Reply #35 on: April 02, 2013, 01:55:46 pm »
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The new system we are on makes it ridiculously easy to start a new blog.  You want powergrid.boardgamestrategy.net, or tichu.boardgamestrategy.net, just send me your email and it is yours to run as you see fit.  We host it, you administer it.
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« Reply #36 on: April 02, 2013, 02:23:15 pm »
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Man, the only board game I'm really good at is Acquire.  And I wonder if it's just because I haven't played anyone who considers themselves good.  But even then, I'm not sure what sort of articles I would be able to write; distilling the strategies I use into atricle-sized points sounds really difficult.
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« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2013, 02:25:05 pm »
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The new system we are on makes it ridiculously easy to start a new blog.  You want powergrid.boardgamestrategy.net, or tichu.boardgamestrategy.net, just send me your email and it is yours to run as you see fit.  We host it, you administer it.
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Blitz:
TOWN Wins: ZM11, ZM13
TOWN Losses: ZM3, ZM5, ZM6, ZM8, ZM9, ZM10
SCUM Wins: ZM1
SCUM Losses: ZM4

Total Wins: 3
Total Losses: 7

Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2013, 02:28:08 pm »
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The new system we are on makes it ridiculously easy to start a new blog.  You want powergrid.boardgamestrategy.net, or tichu.boardgamestrategy.net, just send me your email and it is yours to run as you see fit.  We host it, you administer it.

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2013, 02:29:00 pm »
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Man, the only board game I'm really good at is Acquire.  And I wonder if it's just because I haven't played anyone who considers themselves good.  But even then, I'm not sure what sort of articles I would be able to write; distilling the strategies I use into atricle-sized points sounds really difficult.

Maybe the attached is a good example.
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I should point out that it's also not exclusive, i.e., it's not like you can "squat" a domain. 
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« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2013, 03:58:42 pm »
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As it's pretty popular here and has online playing: Through the Ages
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« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2013, 03:59:35 pm »
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Any pre-existing community?
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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2013, 04:08:21 pm »
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How about The Game?
Most people are playing it anyway.....


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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2013, 04:13:49 pm »
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Any pre-existing community?

There's http://boardgamingonline.freeforums.org/, but I don't know of any others.
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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2013, 04:18:20 pm »
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I don't know. On boardgamingonline.freeforums.org (forum of the online platform) are some strategy articles.

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« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2013, 06:40:15 pm »
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« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2013, 06:42:58 pm »
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I feel like mafiascum has that covered.
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« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2013, 06:44:24 pm »
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I feel like mafiascum f.ds has that covered.
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« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2013, 08:42:34 pm »
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« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2013, 08:43:13 pm »
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So are the forums the same forum for all games?
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« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2013, 09:34:45 pm »
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So, I recently have taken a class on board game design, and I also have some projects on the go. With the existence of this whole boardgamestrategy thing, I was wondering if anyone would have interest in seeing some sort of board game design blog, assuming Theory would let me run it through boardgamestrategy. I think that this blog would mostly feature thoughts on game design, as well as be a place for those with game ideas to share their ideas and maybe even outsource playtesting.
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« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2013, 10:43:15 pm »
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So, I recently have taken a class on board game design, and I also have some projects on the go. With the existence of this whole boardgamestrategy thing, I was wondering if anyone would have interest in seeing some sort of board game design blog, assuming Theory would let me run it through boardgamestrategy. I think that this blog would mostly feature thoughts on game design, as well as be a place for those with game ideas to share their ideas and maybe even outsource playtesting.

Wait, what class?  :o

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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2013, 11:18:40 pm »
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So, I recently have taken a class on board game design, and I also have some projects on the go. With the existence of this whole boardgamestrategy thing, I was wondering if anyone would have interest in seeing some sort of board game design blog, assuming Theory would let me run it through boardgamestrategy. I think that this blog would mostly feature thoughts on game design, as well as be a place for those with game ideas to share their ideas and maybe even outsource playtesting.

I think that is a good idea.
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« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2013, 11:47:09 pm »
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So, I recently have taken a class on board game design, and I also have some projects on the go. With the existence of this whole boardgamestrategy thing, I was wondering if anyone would have interest in seeing some sort of board game design blog, assuming Theory would let me run it through boardgamestrategy. I think that this blog would mostly feature thoughts on game design, as well as be a place for those with game ideas to share their ideas and maybe even outsource playtesting.

http://www.bgdf.com/

This might interest you.  It's run by Seth Jaffee, who designed Eminent Domain.
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« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2013, 04:10:38 am »
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So, I recently have taken a class on board game design, and I also have some projects on the go. With the existence of this whole boardgamestrategy thing, I was wondering if anyone would have interest in seeing some sort of board game design blog, assuming Theory would let me run it through boardgamestrategy. I think that this blog would mostly feature thoughts on game design, as well as be a place for those with game ideas to share their ideas and maybe even outsource playtesting.

Definitely. I volunteer as playtester.  :P
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« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2013, 09:23:57 am »
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So, I recently have taken a class on board game design, and I also have some projects on the go. With the existence of this whole boardgamestrategy thing, I was wondering if anyone would have interest in seeing some sort of board game design blog, assuming Theory would let me run it through boardgamestrategy. I think that this blog would mostly feature thoughts on game design, as well as be a place for those with game ideas to share their ideas and maybe even outsource playtesting.

Definitely. I volunteer as playtester.  :P

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« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2013, 09:30:28 am »
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Looks interesting. Haven't looked into detail, but when I do, I'll give you feedback.
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So I can still expect feedback?
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« Reply #59 on: April 03, 2013, 09:35:52 am »
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I won't promise anything, but I really want to playtest this.
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« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2013, 11:35:15 am »
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Wait, what class?  :o

/intensely interested

My university has a Video game development certificate which includes a course called "Game design principles and practice." I'm not particularly interested in the certificate as a whole, but this course focuses on non-digital games ie. board games, which I find really awesome and very definitely worth taking.
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« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2013, 12:18:53 pm »
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That's pretty neat.  What games did you play?
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« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2013, 12:49:22 pm »
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Well, we played Backgammon in one lecture and played Dominion in a lab. The idea of that lab was for people to design some cards, but it took too long for people to figure the game out. Another part of the course was a few game quizzes which everyone had to do. There were 21 options of which you had to choose 8. I've played most of the games on the list, but ended up doing quizzes on Can't Stop, Wits and Wagers, Modern Art, Space Alert, Tichu, Bohnanza, Mystery Express and Pandemic.
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« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2013, 05:00:35 pm »
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My University is offering a similar-sounding class and I'm taking it now. It's a 2 hour class, once a week, for 8 weeks. It's been partially lecture-based (discussing design principles and games that use them, etc) and we have various simple design challenges every week. But the main project has been to design our own game one piece at a time. I am about to start playtesting mine! :o And during the last 2 weeks of the class we'll be playtesting each others' games. It's been an awesome experience.

If the game is any good, there is a slight chance I could make it work as a play-by-forum.
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« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2013, 08:20:54 pm »
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Don't know if this has been mentioned yet - chess?
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« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2013, 08:28:22 pm »
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Mm.  Not sure that passes the "Fluxx" test.
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I suspect that there are already far, far more established chess strategy sites and communities. People have been studying chess strategy for quite some time.
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« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2013, 09:39:44 pm »
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« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2013, 10:10:55 pm »
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Is another new thing that nobody answers my posts on this thread?   ;)
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« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2013, 11:38:19 pm »
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So are the forums the same forum for all games?

Oops I thought I responded.  Yes, they are.  You can see for yourself: boardgamestrategy.net/forum
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« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2013, 03:52:40 am »
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As it's pretty popular here and has online playing: Through the Ages

I want to second myself, especially after it won mith's "Best Board Game" challenge. Not that I want to write there, I want to read strategy articles. I nominate Watno to write some articles. I think he knows the game pretty decent.  :P
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« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2013, 04:04:38 am »
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So…have we changed the abbreviation from f.ds to f.bgs?
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« Reply #72 on: April 04, 2013, 07:47:32 am »
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We could do Dominion...











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« Reply #73 on: April 04, 2013, 08:32:02 am »
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« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2013, 09:03:20 am »
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I think there are some games that deserves strategy articles but not enough to create another website.
For example, 7 Wonders : you can write articles about each wonder, and articles about each color of cards (blue, green, red), I guess some leaders too. And that's enough.
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« Reply #75 on: April 04, 2013, 09:20:03 am »
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Mm.  Not sure that passes the "Fluxx" test.
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« Reply #76 on: April 04, 2013, 09:41:24 am »
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So…have we changed the abbreviation from f.ds to f.bgs?

If you visit the site via boardgamestrategy.net/forum, it will display as the Board Game Strategy Forum.  If you visit via forum.dominionstrategy.com, it will display as the Dominion Strategy Forum.  All the same to me :P
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« Reply #77 on: April 04, 2013, 09:42:13 am »
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As it's pretty popular here and has online playing: Through the Ages

I want to second myself, especially after it won mith's "Best Board Game" challenge. Not that I want to write there, I want to read strategy articles. I nominate Watno to write some articles. I think he knows the game pretty decent.  :P

Jack Rudd also started a blog on this, a long time ago.  I would encourage him to restart it (with any assistance) if he wants.
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« Reply #78 on: April 04, 2013, 09:59:41 am »
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I think there are some games that deserves strategy articles but not enough to create another website.
For example, 7 Wonders : you can write articles about each wonder, and articles about each color of cards (blue, green, red), I guess some leaders too. And that's enough.
7 Wonders seconded, it's a highly probabilistic game, but that means there's lots of room for strategy to improve your odds.

I like to spread my chances and be able to buy lots of stuff (a broad strategy) but you could also specialize in green or blue and go with a #1 or last (depth) strategy.
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« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2013, 12:33:16 pm »
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As it's pretty popular here and has online playing: Through the Ages

I want to second myself, especially after it won mith's "Best Board Game" challenge. Not that I want to write there, I want to read strategy articles. I nominate Watno to write some articles. I think he knows the game pretty decent.  :P

Jack Rudd also started a blog on this, a long time ago.  I would encourage him to restart it (with any assistance) if he wants.
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« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2013, 04:44:39 pm »
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I would definitely help with a TtA strategy blog. Maybe try and get people from BGO to share words of wisdom?
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I would like Galz to write an article entitled "How to draw all of the defense cards every single game".
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« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2013, 07:07:04 pm »
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Nah. Chess forums are about as rare as rocks.
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« Reply #84 on: April 05, 2013, 10:59:17 am »
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As more non-Dominion boards get added (Innovation, Treasure Hunt, Power Grid) it is a minor nuisance to update my Ignore Board List each time.  Is there any way to set these new boards to Ignore by default?
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« Reply #85 on: April 06, 2013, 04:43:13 pm »
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I really don't have the time or patience to helm an entire blog, but if enough people are interested in RftG strategy then I'd happily write some guest articles.

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« Reply #86 on: April 06, 2013, 06:50:06 pm »
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Hmm.

As long as no one objects: theory! I'm interested in running the 7 Wonders strategy blog thing.

I only own the base set (and have played it 20+ times) so I'll only be reviewing those, but if I ever get the expansions, I can cover a few things there too.
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« Reply #87 on: April 06, 2013, 06:55:44 pm »
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I would like Galz to write an article entitled "How to draw all of the defense cards every single game".

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Normal Games:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Traitor)

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 10

Other:
TOWN Wins: DM1, BM4, BM4, BM5, BM8, BM13, DoM1, OZ2, RM45
TOWN Losses: BM1, BM2, BM3, BM6, BM11, RM3, RM4
SCUM Wins: DM3, BM7, RM1, RM2
SCUM Losses: BM9, OZ1

Total Wins: 13
Total Losses: 9

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« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2013, 08:17:03 pm »
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Hmm.

As long as no one objects: theory! I'm interested in running the 7 Wonders strategy blog thing.

I only own the base set (and have played it 20+ times) so I'll only be reviewing those, but if I ever get the expansions, I can cover a few things there too.
I'll take brokoli's advice and write:

- 1 Article for each Wonder
- 1 Article about each of the 3 general strategies (Blue, Red, Green)
- Some General Strategy/Prioritizing Picks/etc.

Have you read this?

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/691370/some-complex-strategies-for-7-wonders

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« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2013, 10:44:10 pm »
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Hmm.

As long as no one objects: theory! I'm interested in running the 7 Wonders strategy blog thing.

I only own the base set (and have played it 20+ times) so I'll only be reviewing those, but if I ever get the expansions, I can cover a few things there too.
I'll take brokoli's advice and write:

- 1 Article for each Wonder
- 1 Article about each of the 3 general strategies (Blue, Red, Green)
- Some General Strategy/Prioritizing Picks/etc.

Have you read this?

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/691370/some-complex-strategies-for-7-wonders
No, but I don't think I could write anything quite as complete as that.  ;D
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« Reply #90 on: April 07, 2013, 03:04:36 pm »
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« Reply #91 on: April 07, 2013, 06:06:02 pm »
+1

Hmm.

As long as no one objects: theory! I'm interested in running the 7 Wonders strategy blog thing.

I only own the base set (and have played it 20+ times) so I'll only be reviewing those, but if I ever get the expansions, I can cover a few things there too.
I'll take brokoli's advice and write:

- 1 Article for each Wonder
- 1 Article about each of the 3 general strategies (Blue, Red, Green)
- Some General Strategy/Prioritizing Picks/etc.




I'd help with 7W. I'm confused by you listing red as a basic strategy - military is never a strategy on it's own, it can only be a complement (assuming you want to win that is). If I had to identify basic strategies in 7 Wonders it'd be more like: Resource heavy (browns leading into red/blue/purple), Resource light (yellows & complement greens with chains), Science (grays leading into green & chains). But really no matter what path you take, there's going to be overlap.
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« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2013, 06:29:36 pm »
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I was thinking more of how you'd play each Age with that color, rescources you'd need, but the combination strategies like Red/Green, Trading for rescources, etc. Would be good too.

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« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2013, 07:11:31 pm »
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The point I'm making is, those colours on their own aren't a single strategy. In particular I think red is something everyone should be considering. I guess if you wanted to you could call the three strategies I listed above "blue" (big resource), "yellow" (small resource (this one doesn't really have a huge economy focus, it's just hard to identify a colour it's really interested in especially) and "green" (science).
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« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2013, 08:56:24 pm »
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I would be super pumped to see a Race for the Galaxy blog pop up here...
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« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2013, 04:04:19 am »
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Hmm.

As long as no one objects: theory! I'm interested in running the 7 Wonders strategy blog thing.

I only own the base set (and have played it 20+ times) so I'll only be reviewing those, but if I ever get the expansions, I can cover a few things there too.
I'll take brokoli's advice and write:

- 1 Article for each Wonder
- 1 Article about each of the 3 general strategies (Blue, Red, Green)
- Some General Strategy/Prioritizing Picks/etc.




I'd help with 7W. I'm confused by you listing red as a basic strategy - military is never a strategy on it's own, it can only be a complement (assuming you want to win that is). If I had to identify basic strategies in 7 Wonders it'd be more like: Resource heavy (browns leading into red/blue/purple), Resource light (yellows & complement greens with chains), Science (grays leading into green & chains). But really no matter what path you take, there's going to be overlap.
I think it's probably better to generalize some strategies.

A good article would be: Diversify or specialize? With good pros and cons for both.
Diversifying makes sure you have the most options available to you in the later Ages.
Specializing means going full green for instance or trying to build through chaining rather than with the resources.
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« Reply #96 on: April 24, 2013, 09:07:11 pm »
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There is actually quite a bit to mine with 7 Wonders particularly with the expansions (Cities is great, Leaders is ok to play but offers additional diversity).

Different ideas for articles other than what has been mentioned include:

- Basic articles for different numbers of player as what's available changes quite a bit and changes the game quite a bit. For example Marketplace-based/Olympia B side strategies are a ton more powerful in 3-player than in larger games where your neighbor has a huge influence.
- Card articles for the Leaders and Cities expansions as those are all unique and not in every game and often change the entire game quite a bit.
- How to best inhibit others strategies without turning your own game into a mess (this happens quite often amongst average players)
- Recognizing when it is best to abandon your wonder and change to another strategy

I would be willing to contribute if this gets started as well.
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« Reply #97 on: April 24, 2013, 10:07:43 pm »
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It's currently in the infancy stages. I think Arch and I have been given edit access, but neither of us have done anything on it yet. eHalc is probably the best person at it on this site, I'd say, at least that I've seen.

I'm going to a 7 Wonders tournament in a few weeks (er, if I actually sign up), if I do well in that, then maybe I'll feel I understand the game well enough to write some stuff :P.
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« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2013, 11:13:17 pm »
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It's currently in the infancy stages. I think Arch and I have been given edit access, but neither of us have done anything on it yet. eHalc is probably the best person at it on this site, I'd say, at least that I've seen.

I'm going to a 7 Wonders tournament in a few weeks (er, if I actually sign up), if I do well in that, then maybe I'll feel I understand the game well enough to write some stuff :P.

Whoa now, I really doubt it.  I came in like third or fourth in 7WII?  I just wrote a LOT when I was spectating 7WI, that's all.  Does not indicate skill in the slightest!
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« Reply #99 on: April 25, 2013, 12:16:44 am »
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It's currently in the infancy stages. I think Arch and I have been given edit access, but neither of us have done anything on it yet. eHalc is probably the best person at it on this site, I'd say, at least that I've seen.

I'm going to a 7 Wonders tournament in a few weeks (er, if I actually sign up), if I do well in that, then maybe I'll feel I understand the game well enough to write some stuff :P.

Whoa now, I really doubt it.  I came in like third or fourth in 7WII?  I just wrote a LOT when I was spectating 7WI, that's all.  Does not indicate skill in the slightest!
I think you're good enough. I understand the mechanics of the game very well, but when it comes time to play I don't do so hot. So if you want to help out (or anybody, for that matter) just talk to theory, Tables, or myself and you could definitely star writing some articles. Especially those who've played with the expansions/Bonus Boards. I don't know about Tables, but I've personally only used the cards in the expansions a couple times each and have never tried any other board outside of the base 7 ones.
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« Reply #100 on: April 25, 2013, 10:02:26 am »
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I've actually played expansions almost always, I have a lot less experience with base 7W.
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« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2013, 04:38:41 pm »
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I have not had that much experience with 7W in general.  I think I am aware of my mistakes though -- I tend to overbuild resources and underestimate how much I can get away with just trading.

IRL I've played with the expansions just a few times.  My friends mostly don't like Cities though.  They are not fond of Debt, possibly because the first game we played with Cities had Petra and (I think) Catan and pretty much all of the Debt-causing City cards.  It hit a lot of people.
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« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2013, 05:37:51 pm »
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I wonder actually, if really any of us are actually experienced enough for this. Compare Dominion, where theory was already one of the best when he started the blog. As I said, I'll let my tournament result determine my own confidence. Maybe sneak in some games on BSW.
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« Reply #103 on: August 28, 2013, 12:29:00 pm »
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I want to see some more RISK strategy. I always think I have a strategy, but in the end I never know what I'm doing.
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« Reply #104 on: August 28, 2013, 12:51:43 pm »
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1. Take Australia
2. ????
3. Profit
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« Reply #105 on: August 28, 2013, 12:53:48 pm »
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I don't think that's it. it depends how many people you're playing with, but with 5 or more people often it's fine to just put all your troops in one spot and get a card each turn, that's it. continent bonuses aren't as valuable.
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« Reply #106 on: August 28, 2013, 02:04:31 pm »
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Nah, Australia means you basically can't lose, but you rarely win with it (I'd say it's playing for 2nd place). I think the best Risk tip is "make sure you go first."
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« Reply #107 on: August 28, 2013, 02:39:20 pm »
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well, 2nd place is losing :P
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« Reply #108 on: August 28, 2013, 04:16:14 pm »
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well, 2nd place is losing :P

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« Reply #109 on: August 28, 2013, 10:13:29 pm »
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I've found in my few games that we end up having "cold wars" were we keep piling cannons on a choke point, such as Greenland-Iceland or Alaska-that place in Russia and never actually attack.
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« Reply #110 on: August 29, 2013, 08:56:30 am »
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This might be something they got rid of, but in the edition I grew up with, you were not allowed more than 12 armies in one territory. Also our pieces weren't infantry/cavalry/cannons, they were Roman numerals.
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« Reply #111 on: August 29, 2013, 11:50:48 am »
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I've never heard of a troop limit - I have played with the roman numeral pieces though.

yes, there often are huge stockpiles of troops. cards fix that though. cashing in for a bunch of troops, wiping someone out, taking their cards, cash in again, etc. that's what keeps the game rolling.
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« Reply #112 on: September 29, 2013, 07:04:56 pm »
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that's what keeps the game rolling.
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« Reply #113 on: September 29, 2013, 08:01:26 pm »
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that's what keeps the game rolling.
What keeps the game rolling are the dice.
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« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2013, 06:48:08 pm »
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I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Smallworld exists.

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« Reply #115 on: October 11, 2013, 06:56:36 pm »
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I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Smallworld exists.

What do you think of Risk: Legacy?  I'm not a Risk fan but Legacy intrigues me.  Haven't actually tried it though.

I'm OK with Small World but I'm not a huge fan of it partially because I can't seem to get a handle on strategy for it, but mostly because I can't remember all the different powers.  I have to keep looking back at the reference sheets.  I'd probably like it more if I played it often enough to get familiar with it.  I mean, if I can remember all the Dominion cards, I can probably remember Small World races and attributes.
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« Reply #116 on: October 11, 2013, 06:57:25 pm »
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I like smallworld, but I don't see the comparison to risk.
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« Reply #117 on: October 11, 2013, 07:19:59 pm »
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I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Smallworld exists.

I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Shogun exists.

If you like the idea of Risk and want a more Ameritrash version, Smallworld is great. But, if you'd prefer it go more in a Eurogame direction, I couldn't recommend Shogun more. I mean, come on, it has a battle tower that you thrown armies into to settle battles. How cool is that?
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« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2013, 07:50:41 pm »
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I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Smallworld exists.

I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Shogun exists.

If you like the idea of Risk and want a more Ameritrash version, Smallworld is great. But, if you'd prefer it go more in a Eurogame direction, I couldn't recommend Shogun more. I mean, come on, it has a battle tower that you thrown armies into to settle battles. How cool is that?

It would be sort of cool to play a ten-year game of shogun instead of the usual two-year game.
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« Reply #119 on: October 11, 2013, 10:18:13 pm »
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I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Smallworld exists.

I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Shogun exists.

If you like the idea of Risk and want a more Ameritrash version, Smallworld is great. But, if you'd prefer it go more in a Eurogame direction, I couldn't recommend Shogun more. I mean, come on, it has a battle tower that you thrown armies into to settle battles. How cool is that?

It would be sort of cool to play a ten-year game of shogun instead of the usual two-year game.

Definitely. My friends and I have contemplated doing just that, but man, it would be crazy long. Two years usually takes us about 3 hours, so 10 would take 15 hours  :o
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« Reply #120 on: December 05, 2013, 11:00:18 pm »
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I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Smallworld exists.

I haven't cared about Risk since I found out Shogun exists.

If you like the idea of Risk and want a more Ameritrash version, Smallworld is great. But, if you'd prefer it go more in a Eurogame direction, I couldn't recommend Shogun more. I mean, come on, it has a battle tower that you thrown armies into to settle battles. How cool is that?

It would be sort of cool to play a ten-year game of shogun instead of the usual two-year game.

Definitely. My friends and I have contemplated doing just that, but man, it would be crazy long. Two years usually takes us about 3 hours, so 10 would take 15 hours  :o

Knowing nothing about Shogun, I thought you were actually discussing a game that literally takes 2 years, and playing it over 10 instead! Given that Risk a legacy was just being discussed, which can easily take over 15 weeks, a 2 year game doesn't seem all that unreasonable.
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