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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3075 on: January 20, 2018, 11:59:24 pm »
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I can get all 13 during action phases of a single turn.

Setup: 1 Tormentor in supply, 9 in your deck, 10 Villas in the supply, Lighthouses in play for each opponent, You have 84 Coin Tokens

Play 2 Madmen so your hand contains 9 Tormentors, 4 Overlords, 1 Ambassador

Repeat 10 times:
    Play Tormentor (or play Overlord as Tormentor), gaining an Imp
    Buy Travelling Fair, Bonfire (trashing Tormentor), Villa

Play Tormentor, gaining an Imp
Play Ambassador, returning 2 Villas to the supply (you had spare actions from the Madmen)
Buy Travelling Fair, Bonfire (trashing Tormentor and Ambassador), Villa
Play Tormentor, gaining an Imp
Buy Travelling Fair, Bonfire (trashing Tormentor), Villa
Play Tormentor, gaining an Imp
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3076 on: January 21, 2018, 03:25:42 am »
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Nice work, but I actually meant within a single action phase. Which means going to your buy phase, buying cards/events and going back to your action phase does not count. Otherwise I'd just have said something like "only with Tormentor and no Exorcist/Devil's Workshop". I've edited the question to make this even clearer.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3077 on: January 21, 2018, 04:39:40 am »
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With all 13 Imps in their pile at the start of your turn, gain all of them before ending your action phase.

Never mind, I messed something up. May still be possible, just haven't thought of it.

Found a way again, but not 100% sure it actually works due to potential wording issues. Pretty sure it works.

Hand is 8 Crowns, 8 BoMs, 7 Tormentors (you bought lots of Expeditions the turn before). Play Crown on Crown etc. Final Crown's first play is BoM as Raze trashing itself, then BoM as Lurker gaining Mandarin, topdecking all the Crowns.

Then each Crown's second play is BoM as Raze trashing itself, BoM as Procession playing Tormentor.

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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3078 on: January 21, 2018, 08:50:20 am »
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With all 13 Imps in their pile at the start of your turn, gain all of them before ending your action phase.

Never mind, I messed something up. May still be possible, just haven't thought of it.

Found a way again, but not 100% sure it actually works due to potential wording issues. Pretty sure it works.

Hand is 8 Crowns, 8 BoMs, 7 Tormentors (you bought lots of Expeditions the turn before). Play Crown on Crown etc. Final Crown's first play is BoM as Raze trashing itself, then BoM as Lurker gaining Mandarin, topdecking all the Crowns.

Then each Crown's second play is BoM as Raze trashing itself, BoM as Procession playing Tormentor.

Not exactly my solution but has the same spirit and much simpler too. The most important part is to play many Crowns, then BoM as self trasher then gaining a Mandarin on the second play to remove everything from play.

From here you have many Throned actions so it becomes easy by using BoM as self trasher then X. Procession works, but I forgot about it and ended up setting up some weird Overlord-KC-Necromancer chain  ;D

I wonder, what is the maximum number of Imps (assuming infinite pile) that can be gained with this restriction? This method can be extended to 18 Imps with 10/10/9 Crowns/BoMs/Tormentors, but I believe even more is possible.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3079 on: January 21, 2018, 08:52:40 am »
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Much easier puzzle:

I play Chariot Race. I reveal a card, and the player to my left reveals the same card. However, I still get +$1 and +1VP. Why?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3080 on: January 21, 2018, 09:15:44 am »
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Much easier puzzle:

I play Chariot Race. I reveal a card, and the player to my left reveals the same card. However, I still get +$1 and +1VP. Why?

Your opponent had their Ferry token on that card?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3081 on: January 21, 2018, 11:17:39 am »
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That doesn't work, as Ferry applies during a turn, not to a player.  Learned that the hard way yesterday when I hit my opponent's Skulk with Locusts and they gained a Highway because I had Ferried Highway.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3082 on: January 21, 2018, 01:11:51 pm »
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Much easier puzzle:

I play Chariot Race. I reveal a card, and the player to my left reveals the same card. However, I still get +$1 and +1VP. Why?
It's an Estate; your opponent Inherited something and there's a Quarry in play.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3083 on: January 23, 2018, 01:44:52 am »
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I play a Soothsayer against my little cousin Jonjon.  Jonjon draws a card off the top of his deck, and then explains to me that since he drew the card, he won't be having any curses, no sir.  Jonjon is correct. What has transpired?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3084 on: January 23, 2018, 01:56:01 am »
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I play a Soothsayer against my little cousin Jonjon.  Jonjon draws a card off the top of his deck, and then explains to me that since he drew the card, he won't be having any curses, no sir.  Jonjon is correct. What has transpired?

Jonjon played a Caravan Guard and drew a Moat (or, I suppose, a Trader).
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3085 on: February 04, 2018, 04:01:00 pm »
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I did have the particular mechanic that enables this come up in a game (not the exact scenario though).

Turn 1 - I buy a Silver.
Turn 1 - My opponent buys a Silver.
Turn 2 - I play the Silver I bought on turn 1.

How did this happen?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3086 on: February 04, 2018, 07:53:06 pm »
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I did have the particular mechanic that enables this come up in a game (not the exact scenario though).

Turn 1 - I buy a Silver.
Turn 1 - My opponent buys a Silver.
Turn 2 - I play the Silver I bought on turn 1.

How did this happen?

Travelling Fair, I suppose.

Then, how about this?

Turn 1 - I buy a Gold.
Turn 1 - My opponent buys a Gold.
Turn 2 - I buy a Gold.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3087 on: February 04, 2018, 08:49:03 pm »
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Play Cursed Gold and 4 Copper, buy Borrow, buy Scouting Party, discard 3 Estates, buy Gold. Reshuffle, draw 3 Copper and Gold (or Cursed Gold).
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3088 on: February 05, 2018, 01:21:22 am »
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That works but very different to the scenario I had come up. By slightly modifying mine I can also solve Majiponi's puzzle.

I was thinking of the following.


It is a Shelters game with Pixie, which means you start with Goat.
On your first turn by a Silver
On turn 2 trash Overgrown Estate with Goat. This causes a reshuffle to draw one card, which happens to be the Silver your bought on turn 1

Modified version for Majiponi's problem.
Add Baker and Pooka to the kingdom which means you also start with Cursed Gold and a coin token.
Turn 1 - 5 Coppers. Use the coin token to buy and Gold.
Turn 2 - 3 Shelters, Goat, Cursed Gold. Trash Overgrown Estate with Goat triggering a reshuffle. Draw the Gold bought on turn 1. Buy a Gold.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3089 on: February 05, 2018, 05:26:45 am »
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By slightly modifying mine

How much are we allowed to modify existing cards?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3090 on: February 05, 2018, 05:51:56 pm »
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I think making it trash actions instead of treasures is going to far.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3091 on: February 10, 2018, 12:42:21 pm »
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An opponent has Haunted Woods in play, and it's affecting me.  I buy a card.  Then, I trash a card with Bat.  What happened?

(I can think of multiple solutions.)
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3092 on: February 10, 2018, 01:05:49 pm »
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An opponent has Haunted Woods in play, and it's affecting me.  I buy a card.  Then, I trash a card with Bat.  What happened?

(I can think of multiple solutions.)

Overpaying for Doctor and trashing a Cultist is one.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3093 on: February 10, 2018, 11:38:04 pm »
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An opponent has Haunted Woods in play, and it's affecting me.  I buy a card.  Then, I trash a card with Bat.  What happened?

(I can think of multiple solutions.)

I bought a Villa, topdecking a Watchtower, played the Villa, Enchantressed, played the Watchtower, and played a Bat.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3094 on: February 11, 2018, 09:33:19 pm »
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An opponent has Haunted Woods in play, and it's affecting me.  I buy a card.  Then, I trash a card with Bat.  What happened?

(I can think of multiple solutions.)

I bought a Villa, topdecking a Watchtower, played the Villa, Enchantressed, played the Watchtower, and played a Bat.

I hadn't thought of that one.  Clever!  In addition to that and Doctor overpay, here are a few other solutions:

1. There's one Boon left.  It's Sea's Gift.  Stonemason for Blessed Villages.  Receive Sea's Gift Twice (because you shuffled the Boons and got it again).  Play Bat, trash the other card you drew.
2. There's cost reduction.  Messenger for Lost Cities.  If it's a 2P game, your opponent calls a Duplicate to gain another Lost City.  Play Bat, trash another card you drew.
3. You've played Storyteller.  You play a Crown for Storyteller and use it to play Black Market twice.
  You buy a cheap card from the Black Market, then Storyteller draws you cards.  Play Bat, trash another card you drew.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3095 on: February 23, 2018, 01:44:31 am »
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In the trash are six Estates and one Copper.

What is the card most likely to be present in the kingdom?

I have my own answer but there could always be a better one.

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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3096 on: February 23, 2018, 03:58:32 am »
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In the trash are six Estates and one Copper.

What is the card most likely to be present in the kingdom?

I have my own answer but there could always be a better one.
Well the most likely kingdom cards are those that cost $2-$3, so it will be a trasher from among those. Probably not from Dark Ages since that would make Shelters more likely.

Actually, the answer is Pixie.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3097 on: February 23, 2018, 05:20:31 am »
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Could also be Dismantle or Salvager
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3098 on: February 23, 2018, 05:32:08 am »
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Could also be Dismantle or Salvager
It could be a ton of things, but it was asked which is the most likely.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #3099 on: February 23, 2018, 08:27:10 am »
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Today for the first time ever I had a straight-up $5-$5 opening with no Baker or Borrow in the Kingdom. The only Heirloom was Pouch. What did I buy with my first $5?
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