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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1825 on: July 02, 2015, 04:49:47 am »
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Attempt #2

Setup: Ferry and Inheritance, -$2 token on Hunting Grounds, Estate token on Squire, Watchtower and Hunting Grounds in hand

Buy Farmland
Trash Hunting Grounds from hand
Gain 3 Squire!Estates, reveal Watchtower to trash at least 2
Gain $3 and $4 attacks
Gain Border Village (from Farmland trash-for-benefit on Hunting Grounds)
Gain Catacombs, reveal Watchtower to trash
Gain Poor House

$6: Farmland
$5: Catacombs
$4: attack
$3: attack
$2: Estate
$1: Poor House

I almost had it where you'd actually keep one of every cost, but to gain and keep a $5 cost you'd have to trash all three Estates.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1826 on: July 02, 2015, 07:44:42 pm »
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That's also a pretty cool solution and it keeps more cards than mine, although I do gain the cards in descending order of cost(-ish). I'll post mine for posterity, and if anyone else comes up with a different version I'd love to see it.

Setup: -$2 token on Hunting Grounds, Estate token on a Catacombs, Watchtower and Trader in hand

Buy Border Village
Gain Border Village* ($6)
Trigger BV's on-gain, gain a Catacombs ($5)
Reveal Watchtower, trashing Catacombs
Trigger Catacombs' on-trash, gain a Hunting Grounds ($4)
Reveal Watchtower, trashing Hunting Grounds
Trigger Hunting Grounds' on-trash, would gain three Estates
Reveal Trader, gain Silver instead of one Estate ($3)
Continue to gain two Estates ($2)
Reveal Watchtower, trashing one Estate
Trigger Estate's on-trash (from Catacombs), gain a Poor House ($1)
And if you really want to, reveal another Watchtower, trashing the other Estate, to gain a Copper ($0)**.

* Hmm. I am considering the "gain the card you bought" as part of "resolving the buy". Probably didn't make that clear.
** Also hmm, I assume that the "Gain three Estates" of Hunting Grounds is three separate gains that you react to individually, because otherwise I think that gaining the Poor House would wind up covering the third Estate, meaning you can't react to it?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1827 on: July 02, 2015, 08:00:41 pm »
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Wait, but that doesn't work. Estate tokens are only allowed on cards up to $4... unless there was a cost reducer happening somehow.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1828 on: July 02, 2015, 08:50:08 pm »
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Wait, but that doesn't work. Estate tokens are only allowed on cards up to $4... unless there was a cost reducer happening somehow.
I figure the -$2 token could have originally been on Catacombs, then Catacombs got Inherited, then the -$2 token was moved to Hunting Grounds.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1829 on: July 02, 2015, 09:02:53 pm »
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Wait, but that doesn't work. Estate tokens are only allowed on cards up to $4... unless there was a cost reducer happening somehow.
I figure the -$2 token could have originally been on Catacombs, then Catacombs got Inherited, then the -$2 token was moved to Hunting Grounds.

Fair enough. Clearly there are quite a few solutions to this.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1830 on: July 02, 2015, 10:01:44 pm »
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Buy Border Village and call 4 duplicates.  For each BV, gain a different costing card.

If you only care about the original cost of the cards rather than current cost, you can play Princess (or other cost reduction) and 4 Talismans.  Then buy BV and gain a bunch of things.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1831 on: July 02, 2015, 11:36:38 pm »
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Buy Border Village and call 4 duplicates.  For each BV, gain a different costing card.

If you only care about the original cost of the cards rather than current cost, you can play Princess (or other cost reduction) and 4 Talismans.  Then buy BV and gain a bunch of things.
Well, dangit.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1832 on: July 15, 2015, 02:43:21 pm »
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Hopefully this makes sense...

There are 3 cards in your deck.  You trash a Cultist (before drawing or trashing or whatever the cards in your deck), but you don't draw any of the 3 cards.  How?  Similarly, could replace Cultist w/ Overgrown Estate -- same puzzle.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1833 on: July 15, 2015, 02:52:52 pm »
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When trashing Cultist, you also trash 3 Rats.  This is all at the same time, before doing anything to the 3 cards in you deck.  You resolve Rats first, thus drawing the cards before Cultist can.

When trashing Cultist, you also trash a Hunting Grounds (or 3 Catacombs).  Resolving those first, you gain 3 cards and top-deck them using Watchtower.  Cultist on-trash draws those cards instead of the original 3.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1834 on: July 15, 2015, 03:06:04 pm »
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When trashing Cultist, you also trash 3 Rats.  This is all at the same time, before doing anything to the 3 cards in you deck.  You resolve Rats first, thus drawing the cards before Cultist can.

When trashing Cultist, you also trash a Hunting Grounds (or 3 Catacombs).  Resolving those first, you gain 3 cards and top-deck them using Watchtower.  Cultist on-trash draws those cards instead of the original 3.

This works, but not what I was thinking.  Let me rephrase:
You trash the Cultist (or OE, or a Rats, or anything that on-trash draws you cards), and nothing else.  You draw nothing.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1835 on: July 15, 2015, 03:22:24 pm »
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When trashing Cultist, you also trash 3 Rats.  This is all at the same time, before doing anything to the 3 cards in you deck.  You resolve Rats first, thus drawing the cards before Cultist can.

When trashing Cultist, you also trash a Hunting Grounds (or 3 Catacombs).  Resolving those first, you gain 3 cards and top-deck them using Watchtower.  Cultist on-trash draws those cards instead of the original 3.

This works, but not what I was thinking.  Let me rephrase:
You trash the Cultist (or OE, or a Rats, or anything that on-trash draws you cards), and nothing else.  You draw nothing.
Can you reveal three Market Squares and topdeck the Golds with Watchtower so that only the gained Golds are drawn? MS also has an on-trash effect, so the timing is the same.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1836 on: July 15, 2015, 03:35:37 pm »
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For Rats/OGE, you just need a -1 card token on your deck to prevent the draw.

Maybe you mean for it to be a trick question.  Cultist is one of the three cards on your deck and you trash it using Lookout.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1837 on: July 15, 2015, 04:43:26 pm »
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I was thinking
Lookout or Doctor, where you reveal the Cultist, trash it, don't draw anything, put the other 2 cards back.  Note: this assumes "revealed" cards are still in your deck, which was the part I was unsure about when posting.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1838 on: July 21, 2015, 10:35:43 pm »
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We all know the ways to play a Treasure card during an Action phase, but how does one play an Action card during a Buy phase?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1839 on: July 21, 2015, 10:37:21 pm »
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We all know the ways to play a Treasure card during an Action phase, but how does one play an Action card during a Buy phase?

Caravan Guard in response to Relic?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1840 on: July 21, 2015, 11:00:32 pm »
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Caravan Guard in response to Relic?
Yep.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1841 on: July 21, 2015, 11:15:02 pm »
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Name all ways you can get Grand Market by T3.

I can currently think of quite a few ways. Let's see how many you all can think of.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1842 on: July 21, 2015, 11:44:16 pm »
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Name all ways you can get Grand Market by T3.

I can currently think of quite a few ways. Let's see how many you all can think of.

Would you like to disallow Baker and Borrow?
With both of them around, there are far too many ways that exist
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1843 on: July 21, 2015, 11:58:23 pm »
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A much more fun no restriction challenge puzzle is to get a Grand Market by T2 :D

I can think of a few ways!
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1844 on: July 22, 2015, 12:03:00 am »
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Ferry > Ball/Alms

Pretty much Ferry is too OP.

« Last Edit: July 22, 2015, 12:10:30 am by Seprix »
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« Reply #1845 on: July 22, 2015, 12:05:56 am »
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A much more fun no restriction challenge puzzle is to get a Grand Market by T2 :D

I can think of a few ways!

Ferry > Ironworks/Ball/Workshop/Alms/etc.

Pretty much Ferry is too OP.
Ah yes, the good ol' buy and play a card in the same turn. You did find one solution though, I know of two more
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1846 on: July 22, 2015, 12:10:53 am »
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If you're P2 and open 5/2, then:

P1 T1: Buy Noble Brigand
P2 T1: Buy Vault, draw Vault during Clean-up
P2 T2: Play Vault, discard everything for $6, buy GM

Or

P2 T1: Buy Vault
P1 T2: Buy Lost City, P2 draws Vault
P2 T2: As above

Or

P2 T1: Buy Artificer
P1 T2: Buy Lost City, P2 draws Artificer
P2 T2: Play Artificer, discard 6 cards, gain GM

Or if you open 3/4:

T1: Buy Ferry, put -$2 token on GM
T2: Buy Alms, gain GM

Or, if it's a Baker game and you open 3/4 or 2/5:

T1: Buy Ferry, put -$2 token on GM
T2: Buy Ball or Seaway, gaining an appropriate number of copies of GM
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1847 on: July 22, 2015, 12:13:09 am »
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Here's another quick challenge. Gain a Gold in 2 turns. I can think of many ways so far. Solo play, no P2.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1848 on: July 22, 2015, 12:31:40 am »
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A much more fun no restriction challenge puzzle is to get a Grand Market by T2 :D

I can think of a few ways!

Turn 1:
P1 buys Noble Brigand
P2 buys Embassy
P3 buys Death Cart

Turn 2:
P1 ...
P2 ...
P3 plays Death Cart and Silver, buys Grand Market
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1849 on: July 22, 2015, 01:41:41 am »
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Here's another quick challenge. Gain a Gold in 2 turns. I can think of many ways so far. Solo play, no P2.

Quick one off the top of my head: Turn 1 buy Nomad Camp, turn 2 (must have 3 Coppers) buy LoanBORROW!/Gold.
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