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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1150 on: January 29, 2015, 07:01:42 am »
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You know next turn you have tournament, province and $8, and opponent has <$2 (because you cutpursed him this turn, and he revealed his hand of no coppers). If you buy the duchy now, you get 3pts + 6 next turn=9pts, if you buy estate now, you get 1pt+9 next turn=10pts, allowing you to win by 1 point.

I'm thinking there's simpler solutions though.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1151 on: January 29, 2015, 07:16:16 am »
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You know next turn you have tournament, province and $8, and opponent has <$2 (because you cutpursed him this turn, and he revealed his hand of no coppers). If you buy the duchy now, you get 3pts + 6 next turn=9pts, if you buy estate now, you get 1pt+9 next turn=10pts, allowing you to win by 1 point.

I'm thinking there's simpler solutions though.

The other two answers I had in mind are simpler. The one that actually happened was arguably more complicated.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1152 on: January 29, 2015, 07:21:33 am »
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You had a Develop and wanted to turn the Estate into both a $3 and a Poor House as part of emptying both piles next turn.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1153 on: January 29, 2015, 07:28:35 am »
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  • There's 10 Embargo tokens on the Estate pile.  You have Trader in hand.  Buying the Estate gives you that and 10 Silvers, which bumps up your Gardens/Feodums.
  • You deck consists of only 1 Gold and 1 Silver.  You know your opponent will play a Masquerade on his next turn, and for whatever reason giving him anything besides an Estate or a Curse would enable him to buy the last Province and win.  Curse pile is out, so you have to buy the Estate to give him.  If he buys the Duchy, he'll lose.  You buy the Duchy next turn, which 3-piles, and you win.
  • There are 2 Silvers left.  Estate and Duchy are the only cards in the supply costing 5 or less.  You know you can buy a Duchy next turn.  You buy the Estate now.  Next turn, Trader it for the +2 Silvers, which bumps up your Feodums, buy the Duchy, which 3-piles the game.

I'm sure there are more fringe cases.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1154 on: January 29, 2015, 07:34:37 am »
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You had a Develop and wanted to turn the Estate into both a $3 and a Poor House as part of emptying both piles next turn.

This is pretty close to what happened.

  • There's 10 Embargo tokens on the Estate pile.  You have Trader in hand.  Buying the Estate gives you that and 10 Silvers, which bumps up your Gardens/Feodums.
  • You deck consists of only 1 Gold and 1 Silver.  You know your opponent will play a Masquerade on his next turn, and for whatever reason giving him anything besides an Estate or a Curse would enable him to buy the last Province and win.  Curse pile is out, so you have to buy the Estate to give him.  If he buys the Duchy, he'll lose.  You buy the Duchy next turn, which 3-piles, and you win.
  • There are 2 Silvers left.  Estate and Duchy are the only cards in the supply costing 5 or less.  You know you can buy a Duchy next turn.  You buy the Estate now.  Next turn, Trader it for the +2 Silvers, which bumps up your Feodums, buy the Duchy, which 3-piles the game.

I'm sure there are more fringe cases.

The second one is one of the other cases I had in mind. The others work too.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1155 on: January 30, 2015, 09:11:27 am »
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I think this one will be pretty easy...
You play an Embargo to put an Embargo token on the Curse pile.  Then you buy an Estate, which gives you all 20 curses (it's a 3-player game) due to Embargo tokens being on the Estate pile.  You don't do anything else this turn (no more buys, no Possession shenanigans, etc.).  How is this possible?  (I'm pretty sure this can happen, but not 100% sure as I've never actually done it.)
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1156 on: January 30, 2015, 09:35:14 am »
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I think this one will be pretty easy...
You play an Embargo to put an Embargo token on the Curse pile.  Then you buy an Estate, which gives you all 20 curses (it's a 3-player game) due to Embargo tokens being on the Estate pile.  You don't do anything else this turn (no more buys, no Possession shenanigans, etc.).  How is this possible?  (I'm pretty sure this can happen, but not 100% sure as I've never actually done it.)

There were 27 Embargo tokens on the Estate pile from 9 King's Courted Embargos.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1157 on: January 30, 2015, 09:41:55 am »
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I think this one will be pretty easy...
You play an Embargo to put an Embargo token on the Curse pile.  Then you buy an Estate, which gives you all 20 curses (it's a 3-player game) due to Embargo tokens being on the Estate pile.  You don't do anything else this turn (no more buys, no Possession shenanigans, etc.).  How is this possible?  (I'm pretty sure this can happen, but not 100% sure as I've never actually done it.)

There were 27 Embargo tokens on the Estate pile from 9 King's Courted Embargos.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1158 on: January 30, 2015, 09:45:05 am »
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Another easy one (hey, they're not called "Easy Puzzles" for nothin)...

You are losing in VP.  You have 10 buys.  You buy and gain all 10 curses.  You are now winning in VP.  How can this happen?  There are no on-gain effects going on, no Possession, etc., just plain old fashioned curse buying.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1159 on: January 30, 2015, 10:03:36 am »
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Another easy one (hey, they're not called "Easy Puzzles" for nothin)...

You are losing in VP.  You have 10 buys.  You buy and gain all 10 curses.  You are now winning in VP.  How can this happen?  There are no on-gain effects going on, no Possession, etc., just plain old fashioned curse buying.

12 Gardens.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1160 on: January 30, 2015, 10:06:55 am »
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Another easy one (hey, they're not called "Easy Puzzles" for nothin)...

You are losing in VP.  You have 10 buys.  You buy and gain all 10 curses.  You are now winning in VP.  How can this happen?  There are no on-gain effects going on, no Possession, etc., just plain old fashioned curse buying.

12 Gardens.

Another one: 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Fairgrounds
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1161 on: January 30, 2015, 10:16:23 am »
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Another easy one (hey, they're not called "Easy Puzzles" for nothin)...

You are losing in VP.  You have 10 buys.  You buy and gain all 10 curses.  You are now winning in VP.  How can this happen?  There are no on-gain effects going on, no Possession, etc., just plain old fashioned curse buying.

12 Gardens.

Another one: 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Fairgrounds

Fairgrounds solution is what I was thinking because I was thinking 2-player game.  I guess the Gardens works in 3-player games though.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1162 on: January 30, 2015, 10:20:46 am »
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But wait, there's more:

12 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 2 Fairgrounds
Or: 12 Gardens and 1 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 2 Fairgrounds
Or: 11 Gardens and 1 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 2 Fairgrounds
Or: 10 Gardens and 1 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 2 Fairgrounds
Or: 9 Gardens and 1 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 8 Gardens and 2 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 7 Gardens and 2 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 6 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 5 Gardens and 3 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 4 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 3 Gardens and 4 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 2 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 12 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 11 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 10 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 9 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 8 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 7 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 6 Fairgrounds
Or: 1 Gardens and 5 Fairgrounds

And you call that an easy puzzle?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1163 on: January 30, 2015, 10:22:43 am »
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Oh hmm in 3p it isn't "all" 10 Curses, is it.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1164 on: January 30, 2015, 10:24:04 am »
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Oh hmm in 3p it isn't "all" 10 Curses, is it.
If there are 10 left, I would say "all".  But maybe my Engrish needs better.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1165 on: January 30, 2015, 10:31:23 am »
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You missed one, Asper.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1166 on: January 30, 2015, 10:35:55 am »
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You missed one, Asper.

Thank you. That should have been "12 Gardens, 1 Fairgrounds". I don't know how this happened.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1167 on: January 30, 2015, 10:38:11 am »
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You missed one, Asper.

Thank you. That should have been "12 Gardens, 1 Fairgrounds". I don't know how this happened.

Damn. I was just trying to make you check your list compulsively until you realized that I was trolling you.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1168 on: January 30, 2015, 11:01:29 am »
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You missed one, Asper.

Thank you. That should have been "12 Gardens, 1 Fairgrounds". I don't know how this happened.

Damn. I was just trying to make you check your list compulsively until you realized that I was trolling you.

What if i told you that the list was complete and i just claimed to edit it to troll you for trying to troll me? Hypothetically speaking.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1169 on: January 30, 2015, 01:06:23 pm »
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You could also just have 2+ Goons in play.  Puzzle says no on-gain effects, but Goons triggers on buy.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1170 on: January 30, 2015, 01:28:06 pm »
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You could also just have 2+ Goons in play.  Puzzle says no on-gain effects, but Goons triggers on buy.
The puzzle does say "etc.", in which some would put on-buy effects into.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1171 on: January 30, 2015, 07:35:53 pm »
+2

You missed one, Asper.

Thank you. That should have been "12 Gardens, 1 Fairgrounds". I don't know how this happened.

Damn. I was just trying to make you check your list compulsively until you realized that I was trolling you.

What if i told you that the list was complete and i just claimed to edit it to troll you for trying to troll me? Hypothetically speaking.

I would actually like that. Unfortunately, I saw your list after you mentioned the error but before the "last Edit:" tag appeared, and well the error was there.

Damn, we suck at trolling, Asper. We need to spend more time checking out Youtube comments or something.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1172 on: January 31, 2015, 12:24:20 pm »
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I have no victory cards in my deck (or in hand or in play), buy a curse and gain points. How come?
(no on buy/gain effects, outpost, possession etc...)
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #1173 on: January 31, 2015, 01:07:34 pm »
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I have no victory cards in my deck (or in play), buy a curse and gain points. How come?
(no on guy/gain effects, outpost, possession etc...)

Island away your Fairgrounds?
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« Reply #1174 on: January 31, 2015, 01:15:15 pm »
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I have no victory cards in my deck (or in play), buy a curse and gain points. How come?
(no on guy/gain effects, outpost, possession etc...)

Island away your Fairgrounds?

Or it's in your hand.
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