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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #275 on: June 25, 2013, 05:33:55 pm »
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You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You gain a Gold.  How?
It's not your turn.

Your opponent plays Margrave, you draw a Tunnel and discard it. Your opponent then plays a knight and trashes Sir Vander, so you gain another Gold. He then plays Council Room, causing you to draw a Market Square, which you reveal when he plays a Thief, for another Gold. He then plays Spy, and discards the Tunnel on top of your deck, for another Gold. He then plays a Swindler, turning your Adventurer into a Gold.
Don't forget about his Governor and Saboteur.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #276 on: June 25, 2013, 08:02:55 pm »
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You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You gain a Gold.  How?
Coin tokens. (Duh)
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #277 on: June 25, 2013, 08:05:53 pm »
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You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You gain a Gold.  How?
Coin tokens. (Duh)
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #278 on: June 25, 2013, 08:19:10 pm »
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You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You gain a Gold.  How?
Coin tokens. (Duh)

How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #279 on: June 25, 2013, 08:36:55 pm »
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Counterfeit
Venture
Diadem

Hoard
Fool's gold on opponent's turn.

Edit: Loan/Tunnel, Counterfeit/Market Square

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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #280 on: June 25, 2013, 08:37:22 pm »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #281 on: June 25, 2013, 08:49:03 pm »
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You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You gain a Gold.  How?
Coin tokens. (Duh)

How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You gain a Gold.  How?
Coin tokens. (Duh)
Wow I feel terribly stupid. Sorry  :-[
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #282 on: June 25, 2013, 08:52:13 pm »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #283 on: June 25, 2013, 09:04:57 pm »
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well then I don't see how this is possible...
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #284 on: June 25, 2013, 09:13:08 pm »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.
Is Procession + Duration legal?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #285 on: June 25, 2013, 11:18:16 pm »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.
Is Procession + Duration legal?

Procession would still be out.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #286 on: June 25, 2013, 11:34:40 pm »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.
Is Procession + Duration legal?

Procession would still be out.

Not if you processioned it.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #287 on: June 26, 2013, 02:29:29 am »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.
Is Procession + Duration legal?

Procession would still be out.
But procession isn't a duration, and you haven't played it this turn.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #288 on: June 26, 2013, 02:49:31 am »
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Anyone figure out the turn 3 Prize gain yet?
You need 4 players to do it.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #289 on: June 26, 2013, 05:40:25 am »
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Anyone figure out the turn 3 Prize gain yet?
You need 4 players to do it.

Isn't 2 players enough? Don't even need baker.

P1 opens envoy/silver
P2 opens masq/tournament

turn 3 P1 plays envoy, buys province, draws province
turn 3 P2 necro, masq, tournament
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #290 on: June 26, 2013, 05:48:49 am »
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Masq is cheating.  ;D
Mostly because it had slipped my mind of course. :P

I've found a couple of solutions with 3 players without Masq's voluntarily Province passing.

Baker is in the kingdom, giving every player a Coin.

Turn 1
P1:
- Open Noble Brigand
-- Flip P2's E+C
-- Flip P3's 2E, giving him a C
P2:
- Open Council Room
-- draw EEC, reshuffle, draws CR + 1 more card
P3:
- Open Tournament with 4C-E
-- draw CCC, reshuffle, draws T + C (4C, 3E left in draw deck)

Turn 2
P1:
- Use Coin to buy NB
-- Flip P3's 2E, giving him a Copper (P3 has 4C, 1E left in draw deck)
P2:
- Play Council Room
-- Draw 4 cards
-- Make P3 draw a Copper (P3 has 3C, 1E left in draw deck)
-- Buy Noble Brigand
--- Flip P3's C+E (P3 has 2C left in draw deck)
P3: Has 5C + T in hand
- Play T, draw C, use Coin to buy Province
-- Draw C, reshuffle, draw Tournament + Province + 2 extra cards

Turn 3
P3: Play Tournament, reveal Province, gain Prize


Alternate solution, uses Shelters: (S) or (OE/H/N):

Turn 1
P1:
- Open Noble Brigand
-- Flip P2's H+C
-- Flip P3's 2C
P2:
- Open Council Room
-- draw SSC, reshuffle, draw CR + 1 more card (6 cards left in draw deck)
P3:
- Open Stonemason + Tournament/Death Cart/2 Ruins with $5 + Coin
-- draw OE+H+N, reshuffle, draw T + DC (7C, 2R, SM left in draw deck)

Turn 2
P1:
- Use Coin to buy NB
-- Flip P2's whatever
-- Flip P3's 2R, giving him a Copper (P3 has 7C, SM left in draw deck)
P2:
- Play Council Room
-- Draw 4 cards
-- Make P3 draw SM (P3 has 7C, left in draw deck)
-- Buy Noble Brigand
--- Flip P3's 2C (P3 has 5C left in draw deck)
P3: Has OE+H+N+T+DC+SM in hand
- Play N
- Play SM, trash OE, draw C (gain 2C)
- Play T, draw C (3C left in draw deck)
- Play DC, trashing it
- Buy Province with 2C, $1 from T and $5 from DC, trash H
- Draw 3C, T+P

Turn 3
P3: Play Tournament, reveal Province, gain Prize


You can have some fun with the alternate solution and shuffle some things around, like having P2 buy 2 Noble Brigands on T2 to flip some more cards, but the basic ingredients for my solutions are:
- Noble Brigand flipping
- Council Room (perhaps Governor) drawing
- Stonemason/Tournament/Death Cart or plain Tournament with Coppers

Maybe Stonemason/Tournament/Envoy works or something similar like SM/Tourney/Coppersmith.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #291 on: June 26, 2013, 06:48:56 am »
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2 players, starting with Estates. Noble Brigand, Baker, Stonemason, Tournament and Envoy in the kingdom:

Turn 1:
Player 1: Buy Noble Brigand. Flip 2x Estate. Player 2 gains Copper.
Player 2: 5 Coppers + Coin token - Buy Stonemason, gain Tournament and Envoy.

Turn 2:
Player 1: Do something.
Player 2: Hand: Estate, 2x Copper, Tournament, Envoy. Play Tournament, draw Copper. Play Envoy and reveal 5x Copper (draw 4, discard 1). Buy Province.
             Deck: 2x Estate, Stonemason. Draw those, Tournament and Province.

Turn 3:
Player 1: Do something.
Player 2: Play Tournament, discard Province, gain Prize.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #292 on: June 26, 2013, 06:51:58 am »
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Ah, Envoy gets it down to 2p as well, hadn't gone through the trouble of doing that one. :D
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #293 on: June 26, 2013, 10:49:24 am »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.

Which also breaks the following solutions:
* Counterfeit
* Bank
* Diadem (being worth $1 more because of the Action you didn't use)
* Ill-gotten gains bringing another copper
* two (or more) Fool's Golds
* Gain something with your Horn of Plenty, increasing the value of your Philosopher's Stone by $1

For the given problem (no actions played, no durations out, no coin tokens, only copper/silver/gold to the value of 5) I find no solution. Well, except for the unfunny "It may be a Fool's gold, but it's still a gold..."
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #294 on: June 26, 2013, 01:12:50 pm »
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I don't know how you would buy a Gold with $5 total buying power after having played all Treasures and/or Coins.
You could gain it in a variety of ways though.

As far as I know there is no Bridge-like Treasure, right?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #295 on: June 26, 2013, 01:33:01 pm »
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I don't know how you would buy a Gold with $5 total buying power after having played all Treasures and/or Coins.
You could gain it in a variety of ways though.

As far as I know there is no Bridge-like Treasure, right?

Well, Quarry.  ;)
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #296 on: June 26, 2013, 01:59:52 pm »
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Knew that was coming. :)
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #297 on: June 26, 2013, 02:07:06 pm »
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I don't know how you would buy a Gold with $5 total buying power after having played all Treasures and/or Coins.
You could gain it in a variety of ways though.

As far as I know there is no Bridge-like Treasure, right?

I play my super Quarry (Which is also named Copper), which lowers the cost of all cards by $2.
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #298 on: June 26, 2013, 06:16:02 pm »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.

Somebody plays Council Room?
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Re: Easy Puzzles
« Reply #299 on: June 26, 2013, 06:53:41 pm »
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How about this rephrasing of the question:

You have a 5 card hand.  You do not play any actions, you do not have any durations, you do not have any coin tokens.  Your treasures add up to $5.  You buy a Gold.  How?
venture? can we have whatever types of treasures we want now? what exactly do you mean by "add up"?

No idea.  I just changed gain to buy.

I think the spirit of the challenge is only copper/silver/gold.

Somebody plays Council Room?

That's a 6 card hand.
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