Topic: Convince me that Goko is a good site, security-wise (Read 27162 times)

WanderingWinder · « **on:** March 11, 2013, 04:23:27 pm »

Title pretty much says it.

LastFootnote · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2013, 04:33:12 pm »

I don't think it is. But now that you can pay via PayPal, I'm willing to use it. Just use a throwaway Gmail account if you're concerned about their database security.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2013, 05:17:10 pm »

As of March 15, it will be the best online Dominion gaming spot on the whole web!

Rabid · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2013, 05:23:50 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on March 11, 2013, 05:17:10 pm

As of March 15, it will be the best online Dominion gaming spot on the whole web!

It will also be the least secure!

gryph202 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2013, 05:37:59 pm »

Between lingering security concerns and the unmitigated disaster that was Goko's first roll out August-last, it would take a lot of convincing to get me to spend money on Goko. And good luck with that.

WanderingWinder · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2013, 05:49:00 pm »

Quote from: LastFootnote on March 11, 2013, 04:33:12 pm

I don't think it is. But now that you can pay via PayPal, I'm willing to use it. Just use a throwaway Gmail account if you're concerned about their database security.

I'm not worried about information getting out really - I am paranoid enough to not push much of any useful info to them, as with most sites, so unless they're the grossest of negligent, or actually malignant - neither of which I see - I'm okay there.

Quote from: Robz888 on March 11, 2013, 05:17:10 pm

As of March 15, it will be the best online Dominion gaming spot on the whole web!

Which isn't enough for me - nor what I'm asking for! Certainly the gameplay, while not as good for my pleasure as iso, was fine enough many months ago for me. But it's the security that is keeping me out for now.

SirPeebles · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:15:09 pm »

What exactly are you asking for? How has it not been answered by LastFootnote? You are always complaining about security, but I've never understood what your complaint is.

Watno · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:22:24 pm »

As fast as I'm aware, noone has managed to infect my computer with any virus while I was playing on Goko so far.
If that's not enough, clarify what you want us to do?

Ozle · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:22:59 pm »

its probably the same security wise as a lot of other sites you visit. Probably about as secure as Iso and Council Room? Dunno, but the money is all handled off site.

WanderingWinder · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:37:24 pm »

Quote from: SirPeebles on March 11, 2013, 06:15:09 pm

What exactly are you asking for? How has it not been answered by LastFootnote?

I am asking for some kind of assurance that the site is secure, that it's not particularly easy for people to do who knows what to my machine from the site. I am asking because the holes were there, were very clearly there, around the time of the failed launch, and while those holes were fixed, their reactions were 'it wasn't a major problem' and 'we have it fixed now - trust us'. I need something more concrete than this, at this point, which nobody (LF included) has given.

The reason the general 'it's as safe as any site' doesn't hold is because of the explanation above, which shows them to be a bit lest trustworthy (not in the lying sense, but in the competence sense).

Watno · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:43:18 pm »

And where do you expect us to get that assurance?

werothegreat · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:45:33 pm »

Quote from: Watno on March 11, 2013, 06:43:18 pm

And where do you expect us to get that assurance?

We really only have our own experiences, and no one has been complaining about viruses or anysuch. The best you'll get is assurances from the company, which you've already said you don't trust.

WanderingWinder · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:45:53 pm »

Quote from: Watno on March 11, 2013, 06:43:18 pm

And where do you expect us to get that assurance?

I actually don't. But if you can, I'd sure like to see it. It's something I'd like but am not expecting

LastFootnote · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:46:24 pm »

Well, someone who is net-savvy could examine their code and determine this. Unfortunately, I have no hacking experience personally.

Beyond Awesome · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2013, 07:21:07 pm »

Well, I have played over 1000 games and others have as well. No one has hacked into my computer through Goko, and I have not heard of it happening to anyone else.

ftl · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2013, 07:38:28 pm »

I suggest you ask on https://getsatisfaction.com/goko ; as far as I know, nobody who's posting here has any more information than you do, I think?

ashersky · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2013, 07:56:56 pm »

Is there a running list of the Top 50/100 or so and whether they've made the switch? I mean, WW has a lot of sway in the Dominion world (like Stef, Marin, Geronimoo, theory, etc., just to name a few off the top of my head) as far as Dominion celebs go, so it may be nice to see which celebrities have endorsed Goko and which haven't.

Rabid · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:09:53 pm »

I just tried to buy in.
Tried the ToS link and got 404 error!
http://play.goko.com/games/terms_of_service
So I think I will not a paying yet.

thirtyseven · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:16:16 pm »

Quote from: ashersky on March 11, 2013, 07:56:56 pm

Is there a running list of the Top 50/100 or so and whether they've made the switch? I mean, WW has a lot of sway in the Dominion world (like Stef, Marin, Geronimoo, theory, etc., just to name a few off the top of my head) as far as Dominion celebs go, so it may be nice to see which celebrities have endorsed Goko and which haven't.

That would be interesting. If you want a running list of the Middle 50/100 or so, you can start with me

Tdog · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:23:40 pm »

Quote from: Rabid on March 11, 2013, 08:09:53 pm

I just tried to buy in.
Tried the ToS link and got 404 error!
http://play.goko.com/games/terms_of_service
So I think I will not a paying yet.

Get rid of the play at the front of that link and it should work fine.

Rabid · « **Reply #20 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:38:58 pm »

Thanks.
Main point is that the link fails to work just before I pay.
Basic errors like this don't give me confidence in the quality or security of the product.
So I will not be buying at this time.

Razzishi · « **Reply #21 on:** March 11, 2013, 08:51:17 pm »

Quote from: Rabid on March 11, 2013, 08:38:58 pm

Thanks.
Main point is that the link fails to work just before I pay.
Basic errors like this don't give me confidence in the quality or security of the product.
So I will not be buying at this time.

I was definitely thinking about it until I hit a similar error. The whole thing is so amateurish and out-of-tune from what people really want, I can scarcely believe they're asking money for it.

SirPeebles · « **Reply #22 on:** March 11, 2013, 09:18:11 pm »

What similar evidence of security does dougz provide? And I'm not trying to be snarky, I really don't know what sort of reassurance you're looking for.

WanderingWinder · « **Reply #23 on:** March 11, 2013, 09:22:16 pm »

Quote from: SirPeebles on March 11, 2013, 09:18:11 pm

What similar evidence of security does dougz provide? And I'm not trying to be snarky, I really don't know what sort of reassurance you're looking for.

dougz hasn't had the enormous issues that this site did, and moreover, never said that these things weren't big deals.

I gave them equal benefit on that front until they had these problems, after which they did more of a band-aid than proper addressment of the issue.

blueblimp · « **Reply #24 on:** March 11, 2013, 11:06:39 pm »

Isotropic has a good security track record, as far as I know. The only hole I know of was the lack of server-side checking of affordability that allowed a Platinum/Platinum opening, and Goko had a similar problem but worse. I'm not aware of it ever having an XSS exploit or leaking expansion info, both problems that Goko has had.

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