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Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« on: March 08, 2013, 04:34:39 pm »
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Vineyards won but after the fact opponent questioned the decision.  I'm interested to hear others thoughts?  Did I get lucky?  Didn't feel like it...

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16:31 Copper copper everywhere, but not a drop to drin…: gg
16:31 playing bla bla bla...: gg but not sure of vinneyards
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 04:57:30 pm »
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The problem of Haggler/Vineyards is that anytime you buy a Vineyard with Haggler in play, you must gain a Copper, so there is a bit of antisynergy going on.  Also with no Cantrip action cards, there aren't really any that are ideal to spam.  That being said, Haggler/BM didn't have much help either and there was no way to easily pile drive the Province pile.  So it's kinda a toss up, but your opponent did have merit in his slight criticism of Vineyards.
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 05:15:50 pm »
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The problem of Haggler/Vineyards is that anytime you buy a Vineyard with Haggler in play, you must gain a Copper, so there is a bit of antisynergy going on.

It works well if there's another Alchemy card besides Transmute, though :)
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 05:17:49 pm »
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The problem of Haggler/Vineyards is that anytime you buy a Vineyard with Haggler in play, you must gain a Copper, so there is a bit of antisynergy going on.

It works well if there's another Alchemy card besides Transmute, though :)

no - I've fallen for this trap too. You can't gain Vineyard with a Haggler (not because of potion cost trickery, but because vineyard is a victory card)
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 05:14:49 am »
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Yes i agree with shark_bait. Was like a toss up. I was not sure about your vinneyard strategy, thinking about his lack of synergy. Haggler BM was not very strong here for sure, but if i have to play it again (and i wont because no more isotropic!!!!!!!!!! :'(), i'll go for it, not taking crossroads, only gold, silver...
I think the turn 3 was the key turn and slowed a lot my strategy.
In turn 3 i dont have cutpurse, and you have it. In turn 4 you've gold, i've mine turn 6.
I think cutpurse helped you more in this turn, wich is not the more frecuent being 2nd player.
Seeing the final (if you dont take province, i take), i thougth haggler BM was little better.

But i agree there was not super strong strategies here, and i didnt play very well mine!
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2013, 03:11:08 am »
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The problem of Haggler/Vineyards is that anytime you buy a Vineyard with Haggler in play, you must gain a Copper, so there is a bit of antisynergy going on.

It works well if there's another Alchemy card besides Transmute, though :)

no - I've fallen for this trap too. You can't gain Vineyard with a Haggler (not because of potion cost trickery, but because vineyard is a victory card)

See, I know this, but I keep messing it up >_<
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2013, 01:09:23 pm »
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The problem of Haggler/Vineyards is that anytime you buy a Vineyard with Haggler in play, you must gain a Copper, so there is a bit of antisynergy going on.
Obligatory edge case: Peddler.
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2013, 03:19:21 pm »
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The problem of Haggler/Vineyards is that anytime you buy a Vineyard with Haggler in play, you must gain a Copper, so there is a bit of antisynergy going on.
Obligatory edge case: Peddler.
Also: Curse
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2013, 04:42:44 pm »
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Also Highway/Bridge/Princess.
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Re: Haggler/BM vs Haggler/Vineyards
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 06:02:13 pm »
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Also, if the copper and curse piles are out.
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