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[Morgrim7]

http://dominion.isotropic.org/gamelog/201302/28/game-20130228-192011-d845a0e6.html

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[Mic Qsenoch]

Should be Alchemist/Herbalist/Highway I think.

[SirPeebles]

Only 3 Provinces after 19 turns in a Smithy BM game?  I guess you were hit with Fortune Teller a lot, but most I want to say you got unlucky.  Mayhaps the third Smithy was too much?

[Morgrim7]

Should be Alchemist/Herbalist/Highway I think.

No Actions? You sure?

[dondon151]

I don't really like Alch/Herbalist/Highway because Stables kind of does it better, but even then it's not too fast. There is a possibility of a hybrid strategy using some Alchs for consistency and Stables primarily for draw. Herbalist is a really bad terminal action though and you would much rather play Fortune Teller for the attack, but you need the +buy.

Vault-BM also looks superior to Smithy-BM here because it's better at defending against Fortune Teller, more resilient to greening, and less likely to collide with itself. In the actual game you should have bought Gold on turn 13 because it was right before a reshuffle, and I would even buy Gold on turn 14.

[SirPeebles]

I don't really like Alch/Herbalist/Highway because Stables kind of does it better, but even then it's not too fast. There is a possibility of a hybrid strategy using some Alchs for consistency and Stables primarily for draw. Herbalist is a really bad terminal action though and you would much rather play Fortune Teller for the attack, but you need the +buy.

Vault-BM also looks superior to Smithy-BM here because it's better at defending against Fortune Teller, more resilient to greening, and less likely to collide with itself. In the actual game you should have bought Gold on turn 13 because it was right before a reshuffle, and I would even buy Gold on turn 14.

My initial reaction was also that Vault-BM was the way to go, but then thought maybe Smithy was worth it on a 3/4.  Now that you mention its resilience to Fortune Teller though, I definitely agree.

[Morgrim7]

I don't really like Alch/Herbalist/Highway because Stables kind of does it better, but even then it's not too fast. There is a possibility of a hybrid strategy using some Alchs for consistency and Stables primarily for draw. Herbalist is a really bad terminal action though and you would much rather play Fortune Teller for the attack, but you need the +buy.

Vault-BM also looks superior to Smithy-BM here because it's better at defending against Fortune Teller, more resilient to greening, and less likely to collide with itself. In the actual game you should have bought Gold on turn 13 because it was right before a reshuffle, and I would even buy Gold on turn 14.

My initial reaction was also that Vault-BM was the way to go, but then thought maybe Smithy was worth it on a 3/4.  Now that you mention its resilience to Fortune Teller though, I definitely agree.

So open Silver/Silver?

[SirPeebles]

Another slight boost for Vault is that an Alchemist player is less likely to have junk in their hand to discard to Vault.  Since, you know, a couple cards at least will be Alchemists.  Of course, you didn't know that they'd be going Alchemist until after you'd purchased a Smithy.

[dondon151]

You also have way more flexibility with Vault. Say that you already have 2 Vaults and you hit $5, but you don't want a Duchy. If you get a Stables or Highway, then if it gets drawn dead with Vault, it's not so bad because you can still discard it for +$1. If you don't draw them dead, the benefit is pretty nice, especially the cycling, since BM decks cycle slowly.

Silver/Silver is a standard opening but I'd also consider Silver/FT. If your opponent opens Potion, FT can skip the Potion or knock his Potion hand down to $2P.

[DG]

Smithy/Vault seems ok here. I'm really not sure why you bought smithy/silver on turns 3 and 4 when both were 5 coin hands.

[Morgrim7]

Smithy/Vault seems ok here. I'm really not sure why you bought smithy/silver on turns 3 and 4 when both were 5 coin hands.

Wasnt thinking i guess...

[HiveMindEmulator]

Smithy/Vault seems ok here. I'm really not sure why you bought smithy/silver on turns 3 and 4 when both were 5 coin hands.

Wasnt thinking i guess...

This is the classic problem of trying to be a simulator bot. In real games, you're allowed to have more than one different kind of action card.

[Morgrim7]

Smithy/Vault seems ok here. I'm really not sure why you bought smithy/silver on turns 3 and 4 when both were 5 coin hands.

Wasnt thinking i guess...

This is the classic problem of trying to be a simulator bot. In real games, you're allowed to have more than one different kind of action card.

I know. Turn off the autopilot!

[Robz888]

I'm going to bet that Smithy/Silver or Fortune Teller/Silver, then getting a Vault, are roughly equivalent here... and much better than the Alchemist thing.