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Base

6 (37.5%)

Echoes

3 (18.8%)

Both

7 (43.8%)

Total Members Voted: 16

[ksasaki]

Just out of curiosity.

[theory]

Base, because:

1) Echoes takes too long
2) I find the Echoes/Base hand management to be frustrating
3) I don't feel as in control in Echoes
4) ****ing Perfume

[ksasaki]

But perfume, foiling mathematicians since 23BC!

[marco2012]

I like both games. It is because:

Base game:
1) Simple and fast. Really suitable for lunch hour
2) More controlling. You cannot control what echos card will come. (especially when I use physics and bomb my hand 5 times).
3) Less sudden drawing 11 (Thermometer and watermill )

Echo game:
1) I like forecast. It is really good for sneak attack
2) Additional echo helps in using dogma (thought some echo will cause backfire at future)
3) Possible to claim more than an achievement of same type
4) More counter-measures against some cards (Thermometer to counter paper)

[theory]

In Echoes I also feel like the complexity is too far out of reach for my mind.  I can't keep in mind the forecasts, the echoes, the double achievements, the hand management, the new special achievements, the crazier dogmas, etc. etc.  It's not as fun because it's not possible for me to internalize everything, like oh, if I am careful with the order in which I tuck with Lighting or Reformation, I can get one of the weird special achievements.