Topic: Random city question (Read 52367 times)

gman314 · « **on:** January 28, 2013, 07:29:15 pm »

Sometimes people refer to "level 2 cities." When you make this reference, what are you referring to? Do cities start at level 1 or level 0?

thirtyseven · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2013, 07:38:34 pm »

Level 1 is when no supply piles are empty.
Level 2 is when 1 is.
Level 3 is when 2 are.
Are you familiar with the bonuses you get with Cities when 1 or 2 piles are empty?
See http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/City for more information about this card.

greatexpectations · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2013, 07:55:24 pm »

Quote from: thirtyseven on January 28, 2013, 07:38:34 pm

Level 1 is when no supply piles are empty.
Level 2 is when 1 is.
Level 3 is when 2 are.
Are you familiar with the bonuses you get with Cities when 1 or 2 piles are empty?
See http://wiki.dominionstrategy.com/index.php/City for more information about this card.

i'm pretty sure gman knows how the card works. their question seemed focused on the usage of the 'level X' slang. personally, i think of it more along the lines of Level 0/1/2 myself, but i can see it both ways. whatever gets decided, i would encourage someone to add it to the glossary and city wiki pages.

Tables · « **Reply #3 on:** January 28, 2013, 07:56:57 pm »

I think of it in terms of level 1/2/3.

ehunt · « **Reply #4 on:** January 28, 2013, 07:58:11 pm »

this is a good question! my own use is level 0, 1, 2 (which is the same as the number of empty piles). i thought this was everyone's -- I guess not!

ehunt · « **Reply #5 on:** January 28, 2013, 08:00:09 pm »

proving myself wrong, I used it in the 1/2/3 sense as recently as a year ago:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=1314.msg21318#msg21318

gman314 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 28, 2013, 08:22:22 pm »

Yeah, I know how the card works. I'm just curious as to what people mean. I've never heard anyone refer to level 3 or level 0 cities when they're talking about it, just level 2. So, I always find myself wondering which side of the ambiguity the speaker is on.

olneyce · « **Reply #7 on:** January 28, 2013, 08:24:55 pm »

I've always assumed 0/1/2.

Level 0 Cities are just...Cities. So there's no need to specify a level. Level 1 means partially activated and Level 2 means fully activated.

But I can totally see how someone would assume it goes 1/2/3, too. Confusing!

gman314 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 28, 2013, 08:26:56 pm »

I just added a poll to this thread. Let's see what people think!

shMerker · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2013, 01:46:20 am »

City/Super City/Super City that has gone beyond a Super City--you can call it Super City 2

Dsell · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2013, 02:02:52 am »

I dunno, level 1 City just doesn't sound special or upgraded to me. But I also don't think I've ever had a problem figuring people out.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2013, 02:04:17 am »

I thought everyone talked about level 3 Cities.

PitzerMike · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2013, 03:37:00 am »

Haha, science guys vs. normal people.
I myself start counting at 0 like real men do.

shMerker · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2013, 04:47:16 am »

You have not debugged enough code if you think the answer to this question is obvious.

Also I'm considering changing my write-in to Basic/Stage 1/Stage 2 (Necropolis would be the baby form)

Titandrake · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2013, 04:56:56 am »

Looking back, if I use "Level 2 City" then I mean City with 2 empty piles, but if I say "Level 2 City" in a context where I have used the phrase "maxed-out City", I mean City with 1 empty pile.

I think 0/1/2 makes the most sense because it corresponds to the # of empty piles. But subconsciously, I associate the +2 Cards +2 Actions with level 2 sometimes.

I think I'll just start using Village/Powered up City/Maxed out City from now on.

pinkymadigan · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2013, 08:46:21 am »

So far, at least 23 programmers have voted.

Tables · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2013, 08:50:00 am »

And at least 25 people who interact with the real world have voted as well

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thirtyseven · « **Reply #17 on:** January 29, 2013, 08:50:57 am »

It looks like we need a standard notation... how will we arrive at a consensus?

GendoIkari · « **Reply #18 on:** January 29, 2013, 09:08:58 am »

Wow, I've always assumed that "Level 2 Cities" referred to when one pile was gone... It's almost scary that it's apparently so divided, with people making their own assumptions... now every post on here that talks about "Level 2 Cities" is ambiguous!

Polk5440 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 29, 2013, 09:12:18 am »

I've also assumed "level 2" = "activated" = one pile empty.

Awaclus · « **Reply #20 on:** January 29, 2013, 09:45:01 am »

I'm a musician, so I have always assumed 1/2/3.

I suggest using roman numerals when talking about a City, they don't have a zero so it's impossible to get confused. City I, City II and City III?

crazyrunnerguy · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2013, 09:56:53 am »

Was always Level 1 and 2 for me. Cities /w no piles empty didn't get a level. Good question re: terminology.

Davio · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2013, 10:08:35 am »

I guess it's similar to the way different languages refer to stories, heck in Dutch we have two ways of referring to them:

The word "etage" is used for all stories including the bottom (street level) one, while the word "verdieping" is used from the first story up.
The "2nd etage" is the "1st verdieping", get it?

And it's analogous to indexers in computer languages. Some languages start arrays at index 0, some at 1.

I refer to level 1, 2 and 3 Cities, but don't really know why, just seems more natural to me, but it's more personal than I thought.

pinkymadigan · « **Reply #23 on:** January 29, 2013, 10:26:10 am »

Quote from: Tables on January 29, 2013, 08:50:00 am

And at least 25 people who interact with the real world have voted as well .

Yeah, but we run your real world.

unlinked · « **Reply #24 on:** January 29, 2013, 11:00:06 am »

As a coder, counting always starts at 0. So I go 0/1/2.
And the numbers match the piles. Level 0/ 0 Piles, etc.

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