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i play veto mode most of the time, so it's no surprise to me that people don't like, say, tournament (ugh. tournament.) but i'm always surprised that no one else vetoes embassy.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 06:17:23 pm »
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Moat.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 06:17:51 pm »
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Rebuild!
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 06:22:03 pm »
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Rebuild!

Didn't we have a Rebuild game several months ago? That seems to ring a bell. Maybe I'm thinking of the Storeroom game.

On topic, I'd put Governor and Goons in this category, although I've learned to hate Governor a bit less.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 06:22:52 pm »
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Militia. I just don't like having less cards in hand, ever.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 07:26:52 pm »
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I also don't like Rebuild, because I seem to lose when I don't buy it and to lose when I do.

I have a similar, but milder, problem with Remodel.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 07:29:37 pm »
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Rebuild!

Didn't we have a Rebuild game several months ago? That seems to ring a bell. Maybe I'm thinking of the Storeroom game.

On topic, I'd put Governor and Goons in this category, although I've learned to hate Governor a bit less.

That was Storeroom. I remember that game. It was on a Duke board.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2013, 07:30:44 pm »
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Hunting Party is a big one. It's awful, I hate it.

Mountebank as well. Random AND extremely powerful. Sure, a better player can still use it better, but ugh.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 08:16:02 pm »
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Since when do people not hate Mountebank?  :P
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2013, 08:23:43 pm »
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Rebuild!

Didn't we have a Rebuild game several months ago? That seems to ring a bell. Maybe I'm thinking of the Storeroom game.

On topic, I'd put Governor and Goons in this category, although I've learned to hate Governor a bit less.

That was Storeroom. I remember that game. It was on a Duke board.

With Hoard, right. You went Mine and I went Storeroom. That was an interesting game.

So, why don't you like Rebuild?
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2013, 08:26:11 pm »
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Since when do people not hate Mountebank?  :P

I like Mountebank. It's the discarding attacks I hate. And I include Ghost Ship in that category.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2013, 08:28:59 pm »
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Minion.
I know its probably selective perception, but my opponents always play it for the discard when I have a good hand, and never when I have a crappy one. It's just so unfun.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2013, 08:37:08 pm »
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Since when do people not hate Mountebank?  :P

Since it got 69th in the best card ratings, which is top half.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 09:24:38 pm »
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Outpost. I've rarely seen it give a tactical advantage to anyone. I veto randomly, since i don't hate it enough to specifically veto it, but I never buy it on iso... giving it a high win rate when available ranking on councilroom. presumably because other players buy it and lose. ( I feel that the councilroom stats aren't multivariate (aka not taking into account all the cards on the board)).
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 10:20:16 pm »
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Minion.
I know its probably selective perception, but my opponents always play it for the discard when I have a good hand, and never when I have a crappy one. It's just so unfun.

I also tend to not like Minion, but thought it wasn't well liked.

Personally, I hate Smugglers, probably because of not knowing the times to go for it :P
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2013, 10:39:47 pm »
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The cards I hate that no one else seems to are Chapel and King's Court. They both take a whole pile of finesse out of engine building. I like the messy engines which make do with Trading Post for trashing support.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2013, 11:24:40 pm »
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2013, 01:54:03 am »
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Militia and Goons are two I dislike playing with. Ghost Ship doesn't bother me as much. Scrying Pool and Alchemist are two of my favorites though.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2013, 02:06:06 am »
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Ghost ship kills me. It really, really does. I think it bugs its fair share of people but I just cannot seem to wrap my head around that card.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2013, 06:34:20 am »
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Ghost ship kills me. It really, really does. I think it bugs its fair share of people but I just cannot seem to wrap my head around that card.
Seconded.

I'm also terrible at Goons.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2013, 06:46:31 am »
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Native Village and Talisman.

They're just blind spots for me. I mean, I get them, but I have a feeling I buy them way less than I should.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2013, 12:50:54 pm »
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I'd have to say Hoard.  There are a few reasons...

1) I always seem to draw it in a hand with $7 total, meaning if I'd gotten a Gold instead I could have had a Province!
2) If my opponent gets it in their first Province-buying hand and I don't, they're more likely to get another Province-buying hand the next time their Hoard comes up than I am (slight unstable equilibrium).
3) It makes for those trollsy "get-your-hopes-up-then-crush-them" moments when playing in Iso, i.e.

Your opponent plays a Silver and 2 Coppers.



Your opponent plays a Hoard.
Your opponent plays a Hoard.
Your opponent buys a Province.
 ... gaining a Gold.
 ... gaining a Gold.

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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2013, 01:31:06 pm »
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2) If my opponent gets it in their first Province-buying hand and I don't, they're more likely to get another Province-buying hand the next time their Hoard comes up than I am (slight unstable equilibrium).


I see this sort of argument a lot for certain cards, but there isn't supposed to be an equilibrium.  It's a deck building game.  If you play your cards right (pun intended), then you ought to be increasing the strength of your future hands (at least relative to your opponents' future hands, or else increasing your score).
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2013, 02:03:45 pm »
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Wharf. And to a lesser extent Bridge (which at least needs some support), for the snowballing and sick first-player advantage.
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Re: what's your least favorite card that other people don't seem to hate?
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2013, 02:16:06 pm »
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Farmland, Smugglers, and Fool's Gold. The first two because they're overrated / I don't understand how to use them, the third because it seems to often lead to boring games.
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