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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2013, 06:36:11 pm »
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Deck state (how many copies of each card each player has) can be tracked on Iso even during the game

Except for Masquerade.
No, it works for Masquerade as well. I play with the point counter extension and it works as it should in Masquerade games. I'm not sure if post-game logs allow for Masquerade tracking, but definitely in-game log does so.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2013, 07:06:16 pm »
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PCE tracks deck states despite Masq in 2-player games but not in games with more players IIRC because the information is imperfect.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2013, 07:10:24 pm »
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That's possible, I don't think I ever played a 3-player game on Iso.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2013, 07:58:55 pm »
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Deck state (how many copies of each card each player has) can be tracked on Iso even during the game

Except for Masquerade.
No, it works for Masquerade as well. I play with the point counter extension and it works as it should in Masquerade games. I'm not sure if post-game logs allow for Masquerade tracking, but definitely in-game log does so.

Post-game logs don't show the Masq pass, just as they don't show what you draw with your Smithy etc.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2013, 02:56:58 am »
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... even if you simply draw cards mid-turn, they don't say what cards you drew.

This pretty much kills it. Masq alone wouldn't be that bad.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2013, 03:01:42 am »
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I voted for Stef, too. Stef knocked me out in round, uh 4 I think.

Note, this is not the same as picking the person who I personally would be most afraid of beating. That would be Bonogi. I never, ever, ever, ever beat Bonogi.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2013, 08:22:33 am »
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In terms of "fear" for opponents, I would rate them as follows:

1. Mic Qsenoch
2. Obi Wan Bonogi
3. Stef
4. lespeutere

I think I've beat Obi Wan Bonogi a couple of times (note I'm happy saying "a couple of times"). Obi Wan was also "the man" (#1) for a long time back in the day when I first joined Iso with a friend. We would brag about even playing against him, let alone having any chance of winning. That time has left a lasting shadow over me.

Stef I respect a bunch, but I don't really fear him. Maybe that's because I've seen his face, makes him somewhat less scary. :)

I think I can hold my own against lespeutere, but Mic Qsenoch always seems a couple of steps ahead of me.

Still, going to be very very interesting seeing the best of the best duke it out in the Dominion arena. Whoever wins this has a title that's really going to be worth something in my eyes.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2013, 09:27:00 am »
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I'm now rooting for Mic solely because I have a good friend who is 24 and a Midwestern Chem graduate student. In my mind he's pretended to be bad at Dominion whenever we've played against each other while secretly becoming one of the best players in the world. That would be cool.


Also, I always love these interviews. Good work Theory.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2013, 11:01:35 am »
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I'm not sure which opponent I would fear the most, due to a lack of games with them; however, I can say that I have won more games against these for opponents than I have lost against them. (I won my one game against Mic Qsenoch, back when he was like level 34 or something, and never played any of the others)
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2013, 12:05:38 pm »
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My record against the 4:

-Stef-: 1-4
lespeutere: 0-2
Mic Qsenoch: 2-3-1
Obi Wan Bonogi: 2-6

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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2013, 12:30:16 pm »
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I'm over .500 barely against three of the four.  And only down one against Bonogi.  But I'm pretty sure I would lose badly to any of them if we played today. 

Good luck to everyone.  Excited to see the games.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2013, 12:31:18 pm »
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I am fairly confident that none of the 4 finalists have EVER beaten me.

In fact, quite a lot of the people in this thread have never beaten me either!
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2013, 12:34:52 pm »
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I am fairly confident that none of the 4 finalists have EVER beaten me.

In fact, quite a lot of the people in this thread have never beaten me either!
Or lost to you.  ;)
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2013, 01:44:27 pm »
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I am fairly confident that none of the 4 finalists have EVER beaten me.

In fact, quite a lot of the people in this thread have never beaten me either!
Or lost to you.  ;)

Sssssh, a minor technicality!
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2013, 02:17:45 pm »
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I am fairly confident that none of the 4 finalists have EVER beaten me.

In fact, quite a lot of the people in this thread have never beaten me either!

Are you MrEevee?
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2013, 02:29:21 pm »
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Nope, Eevee is MrEevee
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2013, 03:20:41 pm »
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The fun thing about playing high level players is when you're a bit behind coming out of the early game. You can't count on them making a mistake as a novice would sometimes do. So maintaining the same strategy is almost always a sure loss. Makes for some very entertaining kitchen sink games.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2013, 03:28:05 pm »
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2013, 03:28:56 pm »
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The fun thing about playing high level players is when you're a bit behind coming out of the early game. You can't count on them making a mistake as a novice would sometimes do. So maintaining the same strategy is almost always a sure loss. Makes for some very entertaining kitchen sink games.

I dunno... you can still hope for bad shuffle luck to slow them down. And high-ranked players still make mistakes; just not as many.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2013, 04:17:33 pm »
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Nope, Eevee is MrEevee

http://i.qkme.me/3soa6s.jpg

Eevee's isotropic handle is MrEevee. Eevee posted a thread once asking why he couldn't use Eevee on Isotropic, and was told someone else already had used that name once. Then Ozle decided to pretend like that person was him because Ozle is a flapdoodle.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2013, 04:23:54 pm »
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Took him like a week to notice!
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2013, 04:24:44 pm »
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Took him like a week to notice!
Notice you pretended or notice you are not Eevee?
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2013, 11:13:49 pm »
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Good luck to everyone. Obi Wan and Stef are pretty much the two players who owned my soul more than anyone else when I was playing, whereas the opposite might be true for lespeutere :p (then again he knocked me out of this tournament). Never played much against Mic but I'm sure he's a beast too.
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2013, 12:00:30 am »
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Losers Bracket is down to the Final Four as well... Do we get interviews? >_>
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Re: 2012 DominionStrategy.com Championships: Final Four
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2013, 06:49:34 am »
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The fun thing about playing high level players is when you're a bit behind coming out of the early game. You can't count on them making a mistake as a novice would sometimes do. So maintaining the same strategy is almost always a sure loss. Makes for some very entertaining kitchen sink games.

I dunno... you can still hope for bad shuffle luck to slow them down. And high-ranked players still make mistakes; just not as many.
Well, sure, but somehow the intimidation factor starts playing a role and you start seriously considering Thief or something silly like that. :)
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