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Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Through the Ages!)
« on: January 15, 2013, 12:42:27 pm »
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Bracket

Round 1: Matches 1-8, Matches 9-16, Matches 17-24, Matches 25-32
Round 2: Matches 33-40, Matches 41-48
Round 3: Matches 49-56
Round 4: Matches 57-60; Bonus Matches 1-4
Round 5: Matches 61-62; Bonus Matches 5-7
Round 6: Match 63, Results


I like making brackets, and I also like finding out more about other people's favourite games... Would there be any interest in doing something like this?

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament?
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 01:01:12 pm »
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Sounds cool to me. I'm sure it would expose people to some games they hadn't considered or heard of as well.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament?
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 01:47:49 pm »
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Yes, yes indeed.

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament?
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 02:30:19 pm »
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Mmm, yeah. Sounds interesting.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 06:11:22 pm »
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Alright, three isn't a lot but maybe more people will participate once it's going... if there aren't enough nominations to make this worthwhile, I'll kill it then.

I'm going to follow the format I used in the GCL Mafia Madness tournament last year.

Rules:

  • Nominate your favourite 10 (or more) games, in order (absolute mostest favouritest at the top).
  • I will work magic on this - If you don't care about the details, the important takeaway is that you will be guaranteed at least your top X games (where X depends on the size of the bracket and number of participants - top 2-4, probably), and players nominating the same game will share the "cost" of that nomination (potentially allowing them to get extra games in further down their list). Seeding will be determined by the number of players nominating a game, and then by average placement.
  • This isn't totally game-the-nominations proof, so please make your list independently of others' choices. Do post your list here rather than by PM - hopefully it will encourage more participation, and if not then at least we can turn the failed tournament thread into a discussion of your favourite games!
  • Any expansions are included with the base game - for example, if Dominion were included in the tournament, you would be basing your vote on all the cards, or any subset cards you prefer to play with. Alternate names/editions will be combined, as will very similar games within the same family.
  • Use whatever criteria you like in determining which games are your "favourite".
  • Please post your list with just the names of the games, no bulletpoints, numbers, or inline commentary. It makes it a lot easier for me to copy/paste to my spreadsheet. Feel free to add commentary on the games at the end of your post.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 06:15:01 pm »
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My List:

Mafia
Race for the Galaxy
Brass
Agricola
Through the Ages
Diplomacy
Ghost Stories
Pandemic
7 Wonders
Time's Up
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 06:15:47 pm »
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if mafia is your number 1 mith how come you haven't played on the forums here?
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 06:16:47 pm »
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If I were playing at all, it would be on mafiascum. I don't have the free time to play like I would want to right now.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 06:30:18 pm »
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Castles of Burgundy
Alhambra
Carcassonne
Bohnanza
Empire Builder
7 Wonders
Pandemic
Cards Against Humanity
Castle Panic
Qwirkle
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 06:43:59 pm »
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Power Grid
Carcassonne
Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 07:11:20 pm »
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Gonna play Mansion of Madness first time tomorrow, than submit after that :)
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 07:13:25 pm »
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Also, what counts?
I assume card and board games. Miniatures, TCGs too, I hope.
What about roleplaying games? Video games?
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 08:39:00 pm »
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This is tough. I haven't played that many games in my life to judge, but it's still hard to pick a Top 10. You said I can nominate more, right?


Dominion
Mage Knight
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Pandemic
The Speicherstadt
Sankt Petersburg
Panic Station
Through the Ages
Kamisado
Forbidden Island
The Resistance
Hanabi
Settlers of Catan
Um Reifenbreite
Shadows Over Camelot


These aren't probably not the best games, but the most fun for me in the couple of months.

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 08:45:06 pm »
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Through the Ages
Galaxy Trucker
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
Battlestar Galactica
7 Wonders
Twilight Struggle
Resistance: Avalon
Pandemic
Power Grid
Dixit
Kahuna
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 09:36:52 pm »
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I assume we shouldn't put in Dominion?

Twilight Struggle
Hanabi
Ra
Tigris & Euphrates
Bridge
Tichu
Race for the Galaxy
The Resistance
Category 5 / 6nimmt! (etc.)
Jaipur
Bohnanza
For Sale
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2013, 09:45:24 pm »
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Aand I've just actually reread what's going on and realised it's not what I thought it was, but is still cool. Given my nominations list was sincere, I don't think I need to adjust it.

I should stop browsing F:DS past midnight. I do stupid things.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 12:58:51 am »
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Also, what counts?
I assume card and board games. Miniatures, TCGs too, I hope.
What about roleplaying games? Video games?

RPGs are fine; Video games, no.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 06:28:29 am »
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The Spoils
Taboo
Charades
Race for the Galaxy
Ascension
Resistance
Kingdom Builder
Twilight Imperium
Power Grid
Mutant Chronicles - The Siege of the Citadel

I had to put Mutant Chronicles on the list since it was basically the board game that got me into gaming. It's not super good, and we have tried to balance it, but it's soooo much in favour of the Doom Troopers. Pretty cool setting, though. Much cooler than in the dissapointment that was the movie.
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 06:41:56 am »
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I've played way too many games just once in the past that I don't remember much about other than "I gave it a high rating on BGG". I'm just gonna pick ten that I've played and enjoyed recently enough that I rmember them. Some I've just played once, others a lot. There are probably other games I think are better, but I played them too long ago to remember.

Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender
Stone Age
7 Wonders
Love Letter
Citadels
Hearts
Innovation
Resistance
Troyes
Amyitis
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2013, 06:47:52 am »
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Through the Ages
1830
Monad
Terra Mystica
Cyclades
Power Grid
Tigris & Euphrates
Bridge
Ursuppe
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2013, 07:04:50 am »
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Okay, let's go, these are in no special order:

7 Wonders
Stone Age
Dixit
Telestrations (love me some party games with the family)
Puerto Rico
Small World
Settlers of Catan
The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game
Agricola
Battlestar Galactica
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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2013, 07:50:11 am »
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Also, what counts?
I assume card and board games. Miniatures, TCGs too, I hope.
What about roleplaying games? Video games?

RPGs are fine; Video games, no.

Tabletop only. K.
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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2013, 09:11:07 am »
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Ugh, putting them in favourite order is hard....it all depends on the group and the players.

Magic
Carcassonne
Ticket To Ride
Blood Bowl 3rd Edition (Not the new card game thing, ugh)
Stone Age
Settlers of Catan
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2013, 11:09:57 am »
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7 Wonders
Settlers of Catan

My favorite RPG is Fiasco, but the idea of a Fiasco tournament is absurd.  Most RPGs don't have winners, though some do ( http://www.agon-rpg.com/ http://www.bullypulpitgames.com/games/roach/ ).
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« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2013, 11:12:03 am »
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"but the idea of a Fiasco tournament is absurd"

One of us is missing the point here I think, I thought this was a tournament to find the best game, you think its a vote to run a tournament OF that best game.
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2013, 11:38:22 am »
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This: "I thought this was a tournament to find the best game"
Not This: "you think its a vote to run a tournament OF that best game."

(If it were the latter, it would be in the forum games section. :))
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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2013, 11:43:12 am »
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This: "I thought this was a tournament to find the best game"
Not This: "you think its a vote to run a tournament OF that best game."

(If it were the latter, it would be in the forum games section. :))

Oh! I had that confused too. I'll submit something later then.
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2013, 01:30:03 pm »
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Imperial (it's a stock investment game with tanks, this should be no contest)
Goa
7 Wonders
Steam
Navegador
For Sale
Stone Age
El Grande
Innovation
Cyclades
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2013, 02:03:58 pm »
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7 Wonders
Telestrations
Carcassone
Stratego
Mr. Jack
Time's Up!
Jaipur
Ticket to Ride
Word Blur
Rail Baron
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2013, 07:26:02 pm »
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This: "I thought this was a tournament to find the best game"
Not This: "you think its a vote to run a tournament OF that best game."

(If it were the latter, it would be in the forum games section. :))

Oh! I had that confused too. I'll submit something later then.

This may or may not be what I was thinking it was last night. I've (almost) played a tournament that worked a bit like that, where games are nominated and essentially you play a gauntlet of games between you. It's pretty fun, but you need certain restrictions on what games can be chosen and stuff.
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2013, 07:50:33 pm »
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hey, maybe we should run a tournament of whatever game wins? :D
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« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2013, 07:57:50 pm »
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Mao
Set
7 wonders
Tichu
Citadels
Pictionary
No Thanks!
Blokus
Sticheln
Bang!

This are all definitively based on different criteria, and current feelings (I get tired of games and start playing them less, while new games I can play for several hours several days in a row).
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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2013, 09:19:34 pm »
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Agricola
Chess
Puerto Rico
Star Wars RPG (2002 Revised Core Rulebook)
Dungeons & Dragons
Ticket to Ride
Mafia
Texas Hold 'em
Gauntlet of Fools
Carcassonne
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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2013, 08:46:11 am »
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(Magic: The Gathering if allowed)
Agricola
RFTG
Puerto Rico
Dungeon Lords
Kingdom Builder
Ticket to ride: Asia team map
Stone Age
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender
Village
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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2013, 10:00:41 am »
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Sticheln

I have played it several times, and still I couldn't pick up my cards and tell if I had a good or a bad hand. That was quite unique for a trick-taking game.
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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2013, 02:10:03 pm »
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7 Wonders
Settlers of Catan (especially with Cities and Knights)
San Guo Sha (which is kind of a a much-expanded rip off of Bang!)
Mao (because why not hahaha)
Spades
Hearts
Big Two
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« Reply #36 on: January 18, 2013, 03:18:16 pm »
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Its surprising in such an usually edge-case oriented community that no-one nominated sex, any sport, any physical game (like dodge ball), any drinking game, any get-nude of a game, and such. It seems like everyone automatically agreed -or at least that consensus was quickly reached- that "game" means "something to be played mostly seating in a not-so-big room", or alternatively, something in which the abstracts of the game rules or guidelines can be rated regardless of social or material context (i.e., I would not play forum strip-poker neither online hide-and-seek, while for all the games that were named here and I know, an online version either exists or seems plausible enough).

Disclaimer: I'm not stating that implementability as a forum or online game is the basis to decide weither something is a game or not in this context, and such discussion probably deserves its own thread, if someone is interested.
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« Reply #37 on: January 18, 2013, 03:25:33 pm »
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I don't think Mao would work well online.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2013, 03:06:40 pm »
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Nomintations still open... Was hoping for a bit more participation than this, but will get this going sometime later this week regardless.

(Currently the field is at 63 games - the next change would add two games, and I decided it would be more "fair" to the top seed to just give the bye rather than face the winner of a play-in - with everyone getting in at least their top 4, though that may change of course if we have additional nominations.)
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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2013, 03:13:18 pm »
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Oh, and also: I am exhausting some of the smaller lists before hitting the "nomination point" threshold - feel free to add to your list or otherwise edit it (just post to let me know you have done so).
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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2013, 11:17:07 am »
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"but the idea of a Fiasco tournament is absurd"

One of us is missing the point here I think, I thought this was a tournament to find the best game, you think its a vote to run a tournament OF that best game.
yes, that was me missing the point.

I've ordered my nominations in order of preference

Fiasco
7 Wonders
Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2013, 01:17:06 pm »
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One last call for new nominations... we haven't had any in four days, so I'm getting close to calling it closed and starting round 1.
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2013, 02:12:06 pm »
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Tales of the Arabian Nights
Terra Mystica
Niagara
Asteroyds

I´don't really have favourite games, but these are ones I like a lot.
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2013, 03:13:34 pm »
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It turns out I have to branch out a bit to reach reasonable numbers:

Small World
Ticket to Ride
Trans Europa
Boggle
Scrabble
Memoir 44
Innovation
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2013, 03:41:49 pm »
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Oh, and also: I am exhausting some of the smaller lists before hitting the "nomination point" threshold - feel free to add to your list or otherwise edit it (just post to let me know you have done so).

My list was small.  What's the threshold?
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« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2013, 03:47:49 pm »
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Currently the system has exhausted the lists submitted by hsaile, flies, and Ozle. (It's unlikely anyone else will join that group if we receive new entries or if those three expand their lists, unless there are a lot of repeat nominations.)
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« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2013, 03:50:02 pm »
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I really like how the top of the bracket has formed in the current iteration. The 19 games which have received multiple nominations (this is more restrictive than being on multiple lists, as for most submissions only the top 4-7 games are in or at the cut line) includes the BGG top 4, the classic big three of gateway games (plus a couple newer games that arguably qualify), some new hotness, a couple of classic card games and party games... It's a really solid range of games.
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« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2013, 03:51:17 pm »
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I really like how the top of the bracket has formed in the current iteration. The 19 games which have received multiple nominations (this is more restrictive than being on multiple lists, as for most submissions only the top 4-7 games are in or at the cut line) includes the BGG top 4, the classic big three of gateway games (plus a couple newer games that arguably qualify), some new hotness, a couple of classic card games and party games... It's a really solid range of games.

What are the Big Three gateway games?  My guesses would be among Settlers, Carcassonne, 7 Wonders and Ticket to Ride.
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« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2013, 03:53:37 pm »
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I was including 7 Wonders in the "newer games that arguably qualify". (Personally, it's my most successful gateway game. But it hasn't been around long enough for me to consider it a "classic".)
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« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2013, 04:06:03 pm »
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I was including 7 Wonders in the "newer games that arguably qualify". (Personally, it's my most successful gateway game. But it hasn't been around long enough for me to consider it a "classic".)

So were my other 3 guesses correct? :P
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« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2013, 04:11:02 pm »
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Yep.
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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2013, 04:12:57 pm »
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Race For The Galaxy
Agricola
7 Wonders
Kingdom Builder
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« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2013, 04:06:33 pm »
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Nominations closed. I'll get the first part of Round 1 going later this afternoon.
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Round 1, Matches 1-8
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2013, 08:03:02 pm »
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Round 1

Match 1
7 Wonders
Scrabble
   
Match 2
Set
San Guo Sha
   
Match 3
Mafia/Werewolf
Ra
   
Match 4
Star Wars RPG
Twilight Struggle
   
Match 5
Puerto Rico
Steam
   
Match 6
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
The Spoils
   
Match 7
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Taboo
   
Match 8
Bohnanza
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

Please vote just as a straight list of games, no comments, numbers, etc. (See my votes for an example of the format I am requesting.) It makes it much easier for me to count this way. Comments can go below the complete list, or in a separate post.
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Round 1, Matches 1-8
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2013, 08:03:14 pm »
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Stats

Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

7 Wonders - 8 | 2.00 | Tables, Thisisnotasmile, Davio, flies, RichardNixon, Forge!!!, soulnet, eHalcyon, Insomniac; mith, D Bo
Scrabble - 1 | 3.75 | qmech
   
Set - 1 | 1.50 | soulnet
San Guo Sha - 1 | 1.36 | eHalcyon
   
Mafia - 2 | 2.89 | mith, michaeljb
Ra - 1 | 2.50 | theory
   
Star Wars RPG - 1 | 2.53 | michaeljb
Twilight Struggle - 2 | 2.72 | Tables, theory
   
Puerto Rico - 3 | 2.34 | Davio, michaeljb, Rabid
Steam - 1 | 3.11 | RichardNixon
   
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game - 1 | 2.00 | Qvist
The Spoils - 1 | 1.00 | Lekkit
   
Mage Knight: The Board Game - 1 | 1.00 | Qvist
Taboo - 1 | 2.00 | Lekkit
   
Bohnanza - 1 | 3.25 | D Bo; theory
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization - 3 | 1.98 | mith, Tables, ipofanes; Qvist


If I were naming this division, it would be Civilization Division, with Sid Meier's Civilization, Through the Ages, and Civ-Lite 7 Wonders as the overall #1 seed. The seeding system produced a quirky pair of matchups between Qvist and Lekkit's top two games. This division is pretty stacked, with four BGG top 10 games.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Nominations)
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2013, 08:04:43 pm »
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7 Wonders
Set
Mafia
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2013, 08:13:04 pm »
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7 Wonders
Set
Mafia/Werewolf
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
The Spoils
Taboo
Bohnanza
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« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2013, 08:14:23 pm »
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BTW, maybe having a poll for each game is easier? Too many threads needed?
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« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2013, 08:14:28 pm »
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7 Wonders
Set
Mafia
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2013, 08:24:43 pm »
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7 Wonders
Not played either game
Ra
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Not played either game
Not played either game
Bohnanza
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« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2013, 09:08:04 pm »
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7 Wonders
Set
Ra
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
The Spoils
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2013, 09:14:07 pm »
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7 wonders

this is the only case where I've played both games, so I'm not going to vote on any of the others :(
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« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2013, 09:25:29 pm »
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7 Wonders
Set
Ra
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization
Taboo
Bohnanza
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« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2013, 09:46:39 pm »
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7 Wonders
San Guo Sha
Mafia
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2013, 09:47:31 pm »
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Is there going to be more divisions? For instance I don't see any of my other nominations
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« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2013, 11:00:51 pm »
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7 Wonders
Set
Mafia/Werewolf
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 1-8)
« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2013, 11:02:00 pm »
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Can we pass on a round? If so please take this list instead.

7 Wonders
Set
Pass
Twilight Struggle
Pass
Pass
Pass
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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« Reply #67 on: January 24, 2013, 03:34:54 am »
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7 Wonders
pass
Ra
pass   
pass   
pass   
Taboo
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

If I have played only one of the two contestants and I didn't find it absolutely horrible, I voted for it. I am quite sure I'd enjoy rather Mage Knight than Taboo but I can't be certain.
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« Reply #68 on: January 24, 2013, 03:42:49 am »
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yeah, before I vote I like to have clarification too. Is there a ruling for the voting. Do we have to know both games in a matchup or at least one or can we vote even we don't know any of both games?

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« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2013, 04:13:06 am »
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But I already can give some comments.

7 Wonders - Scrabble - Easy choice. I dislike Scrabble and 7 Wonders is fun.   
Set - San Guo Sha - I never played Set and never even heard of the Chinese one. But it seems an interesting Bang! variant.
Mafia - Ra - I like playing Mafia playing on the forums, but in real-life the player elimination is just annoying. I played Ra only against an AI and it's an really interesting set collection game.
Star Wars RPG - Twilight Struggle - Never played any of these. I'm not a role-playing guy and I'm not that interested in Twilight Struggle either.
Puerto Rico - Steam - Puerto Rico is interesting, but not one of my all-time favs, just maybe because I haven't played it that much yet. Steam is definitely a game to try out, but I don't know it.
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game - The Spoils - I nominated Sid Meier's Civilization, so I will probably vote for it. I know Spoils, but never played it. It seems like an interesting "fix" of M:tG though.
Mage Knight: The Board Game - Taboo - Hard to compare these two. I mean Mage Knight is one of my all time favs and I prefer it everytime over Taboo, but I mean it really depends on the player group which of those to play, right?
Bohnanza - Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization - I never played Bohnanza, shame on me, but I know it's fun game. But I'm currently really into TtA, it's a great civ game, Vlaada is a genius.

Real votes to come after I got clarification.

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« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2013, 09:44:56 am »
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Scrabble
Set
Ra
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
abstain
abstain
Bohnanza
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« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2013, 10:18:24 am »
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7 Wonders
Pass
Pass
Pass
Pass
Pass
Pass
Through the Ages
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« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2013, 11:14:52 am »
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yeah, before I vote I like to have clarification too. Is there a ruling for the voting. Do we have to know both games in a matchup or at least one or can we vote even we don't know any of both games?

"Use whatever criteria you like" - If you feel you know enough about a game to make a decision without having played it (you hate the genre, it's up against one of your absolute favorites, you think the artwork is cheesy, whatever), go for it.
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« Reply #73 on: January 24, 2013, 11:17:59 am »
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Oh well.

7 Wonders
Pass
Ra
Pass
Pass
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

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« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2013, 11:39:11 am »
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I think Scrabbles been screwed by the system here. Definitely deserves to do better than half of these games, but has no chance being drawn against 7W round one.
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« Reply #75 on: January 24, 2013, 03:57:03 pm »
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Scrabble
Set
Mafia
Star Wars RPG
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Taboo
Through the Ages
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« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2013, 05:27:04 pm »
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7 Wonders
San Guo Sha
pass
pass
pass
pass
Taboo
Bohnanza
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« Reply #77 on: January 24, 2013, 05:28:39 pm »
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7 Wonders
Pass
Mafia/Werewolf
Pass
Steam
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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« Reply #78 on: January 24, 2013, 05:36:06 pm »
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7 Wonders
pass
Mafia/Werewolf
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 1-8)
« Reply #79 on: January 24, 2013, 05:46:51 pm »
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Comments on my votes:

Division 1
  • 7 Wonders is easily my favorite gateway game. Scrabble, I hate with a burning fiery passion. (Not that I don't respect the game, and I'm not that bad at it I guess, but... bad associations.)
  • I haven't played San Guo Sha, but I don't care much for Bang or similar games. I choose Set here more for the concept than actually wanting to play it currently. It's the sort of game I would have wanted to play when I was young.
  • I like Ra and all (though I never get it to the table in person, mostly I've played the AI on my phone), but no surprise here.
  • I like roleplaying ok, and I love Star Wars, but I don't think I would enjoy roleplaying in a Star Wars setting more than any other. Meanwhile, Twilight Struggle is a great game which I need to play more.
  • Puerto Rico/Steam could have gone either way. I have them rated the same on BGG, and both are in the category of "Could be among my favorite games, if only I had the chance to play them more and confirm that". Puerto Rico gets the nod for no good reason.
  • If I want to play a game like Magic, I'll probably just play Magic... The Spoils doesn't interest me. Civilization is quite good, though I've only played it once.
  • I'm a Vlaada fan, and Mage Knight is excellent. I like Taboo, but it always seems to cause arguments when I play it.
  • I don't tend to like trading/deal-making games, so I've never actively sought out a game of Bohnanza. Through the Ages is one of my favorites to play online.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 1-8)
« Reply #80 on: January 24, 2013, 05:56:05 pm »
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(If your favorite game is in one of these matches - and especially if you were the only one to nominate it, and double-especially if I had never heard of it until putting this together - I would really appreciate hearing about what you see in it.)
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« Reply #81 on: January 24, 2013, 06:44:16 pm »
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Match 1
7 Wonders
Scrabble

Scrabble I don't mind, but it's not exactly exciting. It has a lot of bad things for a game (AP/Long waits between turns being the main one) but it's a family game, so that's nice. 7 Wonders is a great gateway game, lots of groups I've played it with have enjoyed it a lot. It has a little more luck than I generally appreciate, and I don't think it really needs all the expansions it's getting, but it's a finely balanced, fun game.
   
Match 2
Set
San Guo Sha

San Guo Sha leaves a slightly bad taste in my mouth due to slightly complicated reasons not directly related to the game itself, but it leaves my biased. The idea of the game itself fails to excite me, although I've never played it. Set is a fun little game, which ruins your brain, but is a nice filler for clever people (especially mathematicians).

Match 3
Mafia/Werewolf
Ra

Mafia/Werewolf is always fun, but has a lot of issues (player elimination, it can easily become offensive/aggressive etc.). Still it used to be my favourite game. Ra I haven't played but I've heard good things. I can't really make a judgement call here so I abstained.
   
Match 4
Star Wars RPG
Twilight Struggle

I'm not an RPG fan, and nobody has ever told me just how good the Star Wars RPG is (I do hear about various RPGs a reasonable amount). Twilight Struggle is amazing.
   
Match 5
Puerto Rico
Steam

Two games I've never played but want to.
   
Match 6
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
The Spoils

I want to try Civ at some point, but it looks pretty big. I've never even heard of The Spoils, so, abstain.
   
Match 7
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Taboo

I don't know much about Mage Knight, but Taboo isn't really my thing. Pass.
   
Match 8
Bohnanza
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

And after a bunch of rounds where I haven't played either, we get to one with two games I really like. Bonhnana is probably my favourite trading type game, because it balances itself very well, and has interesting but difficult to master mechanics. TtA is amazing, though. Relatively simple for a civilisation game, but strategically difficult with no obviously dominant strategies. Every game I end up playing in different ways, and I still feel like I'm learning the game after perhaps 10-15 plays.
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« Reply #82 on: January 24, 2013, 07:12:23 pm »
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Comments on my votes:

I am not a big fan of 7 Wonders.  Scrabble is a game often played badly, but played in a good way (i.e., asynchronously and electronically), it is a superb word game.  IRL I would much rather play 7 Wonders, but I would prefer async Scrabble to any version of 7W.

Haven't played SGS, enjoy Set.

I love Mafia, but I prefer The Resistance.  And I love Ra a bit more.

Twilight Struggle is the best game ever made.  Even Dominion couldn't have won this one for me.

Not a big fan of either, but slightly bigger fan of PR.

Haven't played either.

I don't like either.

Bohnanza is a great gateway and packs a lot of interesting decisions into a fast game.  Only played 1 4p TTA game that took forever.
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« Reply #83 on: January 24, 2013, 08:27:57 pm »
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Only played 1 4p TTA game that took forever.

Oh, yeah, don't play TtA 4p, at least not IRL. I did it once and it was awful.
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« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2013, 08:40:45 pm »
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(If your favorite game is in one of these matches - and especially if you were the only one to nominate it, and double-especially if I had never heard of it until putting this together - I would really appreciate hearing about what you see in it.)

I've only ever played RPGs with one group close friends. We've played Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Everquest, Spycraft, and Dungeons and Dragons. In my nomination list, Star Wars was 4th and DnD was 5th. I just couldn't not nominate any RPGs, and these two are my favorites out of the ones we've played. Somehow these feel more subjective to me than any other nominations, because a lot of the experience is specific to those friends, and I'm not sure I'd ever go play DnD with strangers at a FLGS game night.
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« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2013, 02:24:54 am »
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Pass
Set
Mafia/Werewolf
Star Wars RPG
Pass
The Spoils
Taboo
Bohnanza

And some comments:

Match 1:
I haven't had the time to try out 7 Wonders yet. But I am a word fan, and Scrabble is always fun. I would love to try out 7 Wonders, and the reason I passed here is that I wouldn't want to give a vote on Scrabble just because I haven't played a game I would like to try out. Besides, I'm pretty sure I would vote for 7 Wonders if I had played it.

Match 2:
Set holds a special place in my heart. I like the game, but more importantly it was the game that brought me and my girlfriend together. Not much contest here.

Match 3:
I love myself some social games of deceit.

Match 4:
I kinda like those big games like Twilight Struggle. But I prefer the multiplayer ones with a lot of table talk, diplomatics and such. I have yet to see what's better in a huge game between two players rather than four. I'm not super into Star Wars, but I have tried the RPG and I think it works. You can never have too much RPG.

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I've never played either of those games. I have heard about them and would love to try them out.

Match 6:
I was the one who nominated The Spoils. A lot of players compare it to MTG, but I don't really think that's fair. Sure, it has a lot of similarities and is mostly based on MTG, but in the end, it's like comparing Dominion to Nightfall. If you ever have the option to try it out, I suggest you do. It's a really fun and strategic game.

Match 7:
How can one not love Taboo?

Match 8:
Bohnanza is the set collection game for me. It's fast paced and really easy to get into.
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« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2013, 03:28:35 am »
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Match 8:
Bohnanza is the set collection game for me. It's fast paced and really easy to get into.

Yeah, I felt quite bad giving it the kick, but this pairing was a bit like this season's UEFA Champion's League Group D.
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« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2013, 03:47:34 am »
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Lekkit, we have no votes in common.  :P

Match 7:
How can one not love Taboo?

It's interesting how many voted for Taboo. I mean, yeah, Taboo is a fun party game any you really can't compare Mage Knight with Taboo.
Bohnanza and TtA aren't comparable either.
Through the Ages and Mage Knight both take a long time, yeah, that might be scary for many. And the rules are complex, yeah I agree. But in both games the rules are so intuitive that once you know the rules, you can't forget them so quick. I just learned TtA a few days ago. And in my second game I had nearly no questions anymore. Both games are so beautiful designed that mechanics and theme go well hand in hand. The only other reason I think someone wouldn't like Mage Knight is that every turn is like a puzzle to solve, but I thought Dominion players would love that. Regarding Civilization vs. Through the Ages: I only played the first one face to face (and PBF once on BGG) and the other one only online, so I'm not sure which one I like more. I hope these both games don't play against each other. Both are well designed and balanced. Through the Ages has better mechanics, but Civilization has a map/exploration and other elements I love and miss in Through the Ages. Btw, anyone played Clash of the Cultures? I think I would love this one too.

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« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2013, 01:42:00 pm »
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Yeah, I'm disliking the Bohnanza vs. TtA match here. It's probably my 4th favourite game of the list, but TtA I like more, so sorry Bohnanza.
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« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2013, 03:24:19 pm »
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Yeah, if Bohnanza was up against a different game (and one I know), then I'd be more likely to vote beans.

Anything is going to have a rough time when paired with Through the Ages. I think the explosion we've had on BGO shows that.
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« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2013, 05:18:00 pm »
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Yeah, I'm so glad I introduced it here.
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« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2013, 05:22:59 pm »
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Missed this earlier:

Is there going to be more divisions? For instance I don't see any of my other nominations

It's a 64 game bracket, breaking it up into 4 divisions.
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« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2013, 08:15:59 am »
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7 Wonders
Set
Mafia/Werewolf

Pass
Pass
Pass
Taboo
Pass

7 Wonders and Werewolf are simply my favourite games after Dominion. Otherwise I dislike Puerto Rico but don't know Steam.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 1-8)
« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2013, 11:38:36 am »
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« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2013, 01:09:00 pm »
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Scrabble
Set
Mafia
pass
pass
pass
Taboo
Bohnanza

Some of these would probably go the other way if I'd actually played the other game.
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« Reply #95 on: January 28, 2013, 01:22:34 pm »
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Scrabble
Set
Mafia
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
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Actually, upon further reflection, I would like to change my vote from 7 Wonders to Scrabble. I had gone off of which game I play more, but I prefer Scrabble as a game than 7 Wonders. I'll play them both, but I just don't play Scrabble that often nowadays. I shouldn't let that affect my vote.
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« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2013, 08:58:19 am »
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I'm getting worried with all the votes for Scrabble. Really hope 7 Wonders wins this one.
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« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2013, 10:51:49 am »
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I'm getting worried with all the votes for Scrabble. Really hope 7 Wonders wins this one.

I have the same feeling about all the votes on Taboo and Bohnanza.

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« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2013, 02:00:09 pm »
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I like Bohnanza, so I won't be terribly upset if it beats out Through the Ages. I still prefer TtA, but I think I may also have a man-crush on Vlaada Chvatil. I haven't played a game of his that I didn't like. That being said, I haven't played Mage Knight, but I have no reason to believe I won't like it.
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« Reply #100 on: January 29, 2013, 06:43:21 pm »
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Set
Mafia/Werewolf
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Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
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Bohnanza
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« Reply #101 on: January 29, 2013, 10:02:18 pm »
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if mafia is your number 1 mith how come you haven't played on the forums here?
I found this delightfully ironic.
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Round 1 Matches 9-16
« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2013, 12:07:40 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 1: 7 Wonders 15-5 Scrabble
Match 2: Set 13-2 San Guo Sha
Match 3: Mafia/Werewolf 12-6 Ra
Match 4: Twilight Struggle 11-2 Star Wars RPG
Match 5: Puerto Rico 11-1 Steam
Match 6: Sid Meier's Civiliation: The Board Game 9-3 The Spoils
Match 7: Taboo 9-5 Mage Knight: The Board Game
Match 8: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization 11-8 Bohnanza

Round 1, cont.

Match 9
Stone Age
Monad
   
Match 10
Stratego
Go
   
Match 11
Fiasco
Dungeon Lords
   
Match 12
Mr. Jack
Telestrations
   
Match 13
Small World
Spades
   
Match 14
1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Hearts
   
Match 15
Chess
Brass
   
Match 16
Asteroyds
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2013, 12:08:39 pm »
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Stats

Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

Stone Age - 4 | 2.41 | Thisisnotasmile, Davio, Ozle, Rabid; RichardNixon
Monad - 1 | 3.33 | ipofanes
   
Stratego - 1 | 1.86 | Forge!!!
Go - 1 | 1.00 | ipofanes
   
Fiasco - 1 | 1.00 | flies
Dungeon Lords - 1 | 2.28 | Rabid
   
Mr. Jack - 1 | 2.86 | Forge!!!
Telestrations - 2 | 1.74 | Davio, Forge!!!
   
Small World - 2 | 2.10 | Davio, qmech
Spades - 1 | 2.86 | eHalcyon
   
1830: Railways & Robber Barons - 1 | 2.33 | ipofanes
Hearts - 2 | 3.61 | Thisisnotasmile, eHalcyon
   
Chess - 1 | 1.20 | michaeljb
Brass - 1 | 1.75 | mith
   
Asteroyds - 1 | 3.50 | Watno
Race for the Galaxy - 4 | 2.05 | mith, Lekkit, Rabid, Insomniac; theory


This division might be named the Classics Division, with two old Standard Deck trick-taking games and two older abstracts. Brass is the lone representative of the BGG top 10.
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« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2013, 12:14:45 pm »
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Stone Age
Stratego
Pass   
Pass   
Spades
Pass   
Pass   
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« Reply #105 on: January 30, 2013, 12:14:57 pm »
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Man, this one is tougher than the first set of matches! I really like a lot of these games, but...

Stone Age
Stratego
Fiasco
Mr. Jack
Spades
1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Chess
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« Reply #106 on: January 30, 2013, 12:17:09 pm »
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Stone Age
Go
Dungeon Lords
Mr. Jack
Spades
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« Reply #107 on: January 30, 2013, 12:24:13 pm »
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Gah, so many  pairs I am not qualified to vote on.

Match 9
Pass

Match 10
Stratego
   
Match 11
Pass
   
Match 12
Pass
   
Match 13
Small World
   
Match 14
Pass
   
Match 15
Pass
   
Match 16
Pass


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« Reply #108 on: January 30, 2013, 12:37:30 pm »
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Stone Age
Go
Dungeon Lords
Mr. Jack
Small World
Hearts
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« Reply #109 on: January 30, 2013, 12:58:25 pm »
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pass
pass
pass
pass
Spades
Hearts
pass
pass




I am surprised that Spades has taken an early lead against Small World. :)
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Pass
Pass
Pass
Pass
Small World
Hearts
Chess
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #111 on: January 30, 2013, 01:39:49 pm »
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Monad
Go
pass
pass
Spades
1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Chess   
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Stone Age
Pass
Dungeon Lords
Mr. Jack
Spades
1830: Railways & Robber Barons
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Race for the Galaxy
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Stratego
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Small World
Hearts
Chess
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #114 on: January 30, 2013, 02:55:39 pm »
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Stone Age   
Go   
Dungeon Lords   
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Hearts   
Chess   
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Stratego
Small World
Chess
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Mr. Jack
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Small World
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Chess
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Small World
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Small World
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« Reply #120 on: January 30, 2013, 09:57:34 pm »
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Match 9
Stone Age
Monad

I've never played either of these. Heard of both, but never played, so no choice.
   
Match 10
Stratego
Go

Played both of these... once of twice. Go has a lot of depth and is an interesting game in general. Stratego is... very interesting, but doesn't really capture my attention.
   
Match 11
Fiasco
Dungeon Lords

Never played either. Never heard of either I don't think.   

Match 12
Mr. Jack
Telestrations

I've heard of Mr. Jack, but not played it. Not heard of Telestrations.
 
Match 13
Small World
Spades

I think I've seen Spades, but... not sure. Small World is fun though.
 
Match 14
1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Hearts
   
I don't know 1830, and Hearts is meh.

Match 15
Chess
Brass

I've heard of Brass, but not Chess, is it new? Brass looks interesting, it's kinda on my 'play at some point' list. Chess is decent, but I think it's perhaps a little overplayed. And when a game needs study to get really good at it, sorry, you've lost me.
   
Match 16
Asteroyds
Race for the Galaxy

I've never heard of Asteroyds. But I'm happy to give it a vote to try and knock RftG out, that's a game that doesn't excite me and that I've played.
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« Reply #121 on: January 31, 2013, 07:05:54 am »
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Stone Age
Stratego
Pass
Pass
Small World
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« Reply #122 on: January 31, 2013, 07:25:32 am »
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For me it's like Kuildeous said. Not a really good Division, most of the games I never played.

Stone Age - Monad: I don't know Monad and I'm not a real fan of Stone Age either. I like other Worker Placement games more.
Stratego - Go: This is easy. I played a lot of Stratego and I really like it. Go is for me a boring version of Chess. Please excuse me, all Go lovers.
Fiasco - Dungeon Lords: I'm not a role playing guy and I'm not really interested in most Dungeon themed games. I really don't know why.
Mr. Jack - Telestrations: I've heard of Mr. Jack and never heard of Telestrations. Hmm, that's about it.
Small World - Spades: Small World is fun, but I never played Spades. It's not that famous in Europe. But I savely vote for Small World here.
1830: Railways & Robber Barons - Hearts: I like Hearts and I don't know 1830.
Chess - Brass: Chess isn't my favourite abstract game, but I like it. Never played Brass though.
Asteroyds - Race for the Galaxy: I don't know Asteroyds and I only played RftG against the AI.

This means:

Pass
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Pass
Pass
Small World
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« Reply #123 on: January 31, 2013, 07:35:24 am »
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Match 9
Pass
   
Match 10
Stratego
   
Match 11
Pass
   
Match 12
Pass
   
Match 13
Small World
   
Match 14
Pass
   
Match 15
Pass
   
Match 16
Race for the Galaxy



Not much interesting here. A lot of games I haven't even heard about. Would like to vote Brass just to not vote Chess, but I'm not doing that. ;)
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« Reply #124 on: January 31, 2013, 11:09:37 am »
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pass   
Go
pass   
Mr. Jack
Spades
Hearts
Chess
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #125 on: January 31, 2013, 04:47:25 pm »
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Pass
Stratego
Pass
Pass   
Pass   
Hearts
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Race for the Galaxy

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« Reply #126 on: February 04, 2013, 10:36:12 am »
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Stone Age
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Mr. Jack
Small World
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Asteroyds

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« Reply #127 on: February 04, 2013, 04:21:33 pm »
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This round will probably close tomorrow... If you haven't voted, do so!
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« Reply #128 on: February 06, 2013, 05:37:14 pm »
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Sorry about the delay, busy busy. I'll get the next round going ASAP, but in the meantime we have a tie that needs breaking. First to vote on Match 10 who hasn't already done so will break the tie.

Previous Results:

Match 9: Stone Age 8-1 Monad
Match 10: Go 9-9 Stratego
Match 11: Dungeon Lords 4-1 Fiasco
Match 12: Mr. Jack 7-0 Telestrations
Match 13: Small World 13-7 Spades
Match 14: Hearts 9-3 1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Match 15: Chess 10-4 Brass
Match 16: Race for the Galaxy 11-2 Asteroyds
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« Reply #129 on: February 06, 2013, 05:52:13 pm »
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Sorry about the delay, busy busy. I'll get the next round going ASAP, but in the meantime we have a tie that needs breaking. First to vote on Match 10 who hasn't already done so will break the tie.

How about breaking ties by seed? Or any other rule that does not require someone to force a vote? Maybe for the rest of the tournament?
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« Reply #130 on: February 06, 2013, 05:58:01 pm »
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Let them share the victory and compete together for the rest of the tournament under the name "StrateGo".
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« Reply #131 on: February 07, 2013, 04:37:22 am »
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Had I known that Telestrations is basically Eat Poop You Cat I'd have given it a consolation point.
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« Reply #132 on: February 07, 2013, 06:18:55 am »
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Stone Age
Stratego   
Dungeon Lords   
Telestrations   
Small World
1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Chess
Brass
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2013, 08:20:11 am »
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Had I known that Telestrations is basically Eat Poop You Cat I'd have given it a consolation point.


I suspect I would have voted for Eat Poop You Cat if I had actually played Mr. Jack. I think EPYC is a fun little party game, and Telestrations gives you easy-to-use materials to play it. Alas, I can't vote against Mr. Jack without having played it, and it sounds like it's fun enough that my vote might not be so certain. Sorry, Telestrations, I can't vote for you in future brackets.
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Round 1 Matches 17-24
« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2013, 11:36:03 am »
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Previous Results:

Match 9: Stone Age 8-1 Monad
Match 10: Stratego 9.1-9 Go
Match 11: Dungeon Lords 4-1 Fiasco
Match 12: Mr. Jack 7-0 Telestrations
Match 13: Small World 13-7 Spades
Match 14: Hearts 9-3 1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Match 15: Chess 10-4 Brass
Match 16: Race for the Galaxy 11-2 Asteroyds

Round 1, cont.

Match 17
Carcassonne
Tigris & Euphrates
   
Match 18
Trans Europa
Galaxy Trucker
   
Match 19
Citadels
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
   
Match 20
Boggle
Kingdom Builder
   
Match 21
Mao
Charades
   
Match 22
Alhambra
Imperial
   
Match 23
The Castles of Burgundy
Love Letter
   
Match 24
Battlestar Galactica
The Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #135 on: February 07, 2013, 11:38:16 am »
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Stats

Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

Carcassonne - 4 | 2.03 | D Bo, hsaile, Ozle, Forge!!!; michaeljb
Tigris & Euphrates - 1 | 3.50 | theory
   
Trans Europa - 1 | 1.75 | qmech
Galaxy Trucker - 1 | 1.33 | Tables
   
Citadels - 2 | 3.24 | Thisisnotasmile, soulnet
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation - 1 | 2.33 | Tables
   
Boggle - 1 | 2.75 | qmech
Kingdom Builder - 2 | 2.42 | Rabid, Insomniac; Lekkit
   
Mao - 2 | 1.68 | soulnet, eHalcyon
Charades - 1 | 3.00 | Lekkit
   
Alhambra - 1 | 2.00 | D Bo
Imperial - 1 | 1.00 | RichardNixon
   
The Castles of Burgundy - 1 | 1.00 | D Bo
Love Letter - 1 | 1.86 | Thisisnotasmile
   
Battlestar Galactica - 1 | 3.33 | Tables
The Settlers of Catan - 4 | 2.54 | Davio, Ozle, flies, eHalcyon; Qvist


We'll call this the Gateway Division, with two of the "big three" (as I called them earlier) bookending the bracket and quite a few other newbie-friendly offerings. On a personal note, this division features none of my nominations (each of the other divisions have two), which isn't to say I hate all these games, they just aren't in my top 10. None of the BGG top 10 appear either, with relative newcomer The Castles of Burgundy ranking highest at 16.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 17-24)
« Reply #136 on: February 07, 2013, 11:42:39 am »
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Carcassonne
Galaxy Trucker
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
PASS
Alhambra
The Castles of Burgundy
The Settlers of Catan

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« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2013, 11:46:06 am »
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Carcassone
citadels
kingdom builder
mao
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« Reply #138 on: February 07, 2013, 11:46:37 am »
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Pass
Pass
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
Pass
Alhambra
Pass
The Settlers of Catan

I hate Carcassone but I've never played it's opponent so I won't vote against it out of spite.
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« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2013, 11:49:39 am »
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Carcassonne
Trans Europa
Citadels
Boggle
Mao
Alhambra
The Castles of Burgundy
The Settlers of Catan


Never played Mao, but I sure as heck am not voting for Charades...
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« Reply #140 on: February 07, 2013, 12:00:17 pm »
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Carcassonne
Trans Europa
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
Re-open nominations
Alhambra
Love Letter
The Settlers of Catan

I normally try to vote in all matchups (and learn a bit about each game if I don't know them first) but there's no way in hell I'm voting for either Mao or Charades.
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« Reply #141 on: February 07, 2013, 12:00:40 pm »
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Tigris & Euphrates
Pass   
Pass   
Boggle
Mao
Alhambra
Pass   
Pass

Don't know Mao, but sounds like fun. Don't know Battlestar Galactica but I have never liked the TV series.
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« Reply #142 on: February 07, 2013, 12:10:04 pm »
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Reserving above post for stats, so reposting my votes:

Tigris & Euphrates
Galaxy Trucker
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
Kingdom Builder
Mao
Alhambra
The Castles of Burgundy
The Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #143 on: February 07, 2013, 12:45:31 pm »
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Carcassonne
Pass
Pass
Kingdom Builder
Charades
Pass
Love Letter   
Battlestar Galactica
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« Reply #144 on: February 07, 2013, 01:15:28 pm »
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Tigris & Euphrates
Galaxy Trucker
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
Pass
Charades
Pass
Pass
Battlestar Galactica
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« Reply #145 on: February 07, 2013, 01:18:55 pm »
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Carcassonne
Galaxy Trucker
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
PASS
Imperial
Love Letter
The Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #146 on: February 07, 2013, 01:22:20 pm »
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Match 17
Carcassonne
Tigris & Euphrates

I'm not a fan of either. Carcassonne bores me easily, potentially long waits between turns with little thinking possible I find, and generally I don't find it that fun. Tigris was pretty alright, but wouldn't be a game I'd go out of my way to play again.
   
Match 18
Trans Europa
Galaxy Trucker

I love Galaxy Trucker! I've never heard of Trans Europa, but GT is so awesome, sorry.
   
Match 19
Citadels
Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
 
LotR:TC is like Stratego, but done right. Much smaller scale but much more tactically involved, it's a really good game. Actually, maybe I'll do a PBF of it... Citadels I've heard good things about, but I can't say it excites me enough to consider passing this vote.

Match 20
Boggle
Kingdom Builder

Meh. Boggle is bleh, Kingdom Builder I've never played.
   
Match 21
Mao
Charades

Charades wins by default by virtue of being a game.
 
Match 22
Alhambra
Imperial

Two games I've never played. I've seen Alhambra played and it looked good, but that's not enough for me to vote.   

Match 23
The Castles of Burgundy
Love Letter

Love Letter is a nice, quick, but luck based filler. Castles of Burgundy I've never played. So pass.

Match 24
Battlestar Galactica
The Settlers of Catan

Heh, a has-been major Ameritrash vs. a has-been major Eurogame. I was never much of a fan of Settlers, but BSG has always been fun. So easy vote for me.
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« Reply #147 on: February 07, 2013, 03:16:53 pm »
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Carcassonne
pass
pass
Kingdom Builder
Charades
pass
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The Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #148 on: February 07, 2013, 04:22:57 pm »
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Match 17
Carcassonne
   
Match 18
Galaxy Trucker
   
Match 19
Pass (though I do love Citadels)
   
Match 20
Kingdom Builder
   
Match 21
Charades
   
Match 22
Pass
   
Match 23
Pass
   
Match 24
Pass
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« Reply #149 on: February 07, 2013, 05:01:58 pm »
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Carcassonne
pass
pass
pass
Mao
pass
pass
Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #150 on: February 07, 2013, 05:28:02 pm »
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I only vote for game 22: Alhambra here. Comments maybe at a later point.

Pass
Pass
Pass
Pass
Pass
Alhambra
Pass
Pass

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« Reply #151 on: February 07, 2013, 09:28:52 pm »
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Tigris & Euphrates
Pass
Citadels
Boggle
Mao
Pass
Pass   
The Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #152 on: February 08, 2013, 09:16:57 am »
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Carcassonne
Galaxy Trucker
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
Mao
pass
The Castles of Burgundy
Battlestar Galactica
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« Reply #153 on: February 08, 2013, 09:22:07 am »
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Carcassonne
Pass
Citadels
Pass
Charades
Pass   
Love Letter
Battlestar Galactica
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« Reply #154 on: February 08, 2013, 11:07:06 am »
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Tigris & Euphrates
Trans Europa
Pass
Kingdom Builder
Pass
Pass
Pass
The Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #155 on: February 08, 2013, 03:38:25 pm »
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I'd be interested to see people's reasons for these votes. In particular anyone voting Citadels over Confrontation - I'm going to assume most of you have played both, and IMO Confrontation is Renier Knizia's best game, so...
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« Reply #156 on: February 08, 2013, 05:50:50 pm »
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I voted Citadels because I've played it and like it and I've never played the Lord of the Rings game because it is a Lord of the Rings game.
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« Reply #157 on: February 08, 2013, 06:30:32 pm »
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I hate LotRs and don't like many of their games, but Confrontation is actually good. I would suggest players give it a look.
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« Reply #158 on: February 08, 2013, 07:28:22 pm »
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Stats have finally been edited into the post following the matchups, for those interested in such things.
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« Reply #159 on: February 12, 2013, 12:58:32 pm »
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Voting will end tomorrow, assuming I have time to update...
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Re: Round 1 Matches 17-24
« Reply #160 on: February 12, 2013, 02:44:08 pm »
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Trans Europa
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Boggle
Mao
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So many games I haven't played.  That includes Kingdom Builder: Boggle gets a vote to justify my nomination. :)
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 17-24)
« Reply #161 on: February 12, 2013, 03:17:24 pm »
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I'd be interested to see people's reasons for these votes. In particular anyone voting Citadels over Confrontation - I'm going to assume most of you have played both, and IMO Confrontation is Renier Knizia's best game, so...

I really like Citadels, and Confrontation didn't sound overly exciting, and it's two player only.

What I'm more interested in: How can anyone vote TransEuropa over Galaxy Trucker?
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 17-24)
« Reply #162 on: February 12, 2013, 04:24:32 pm »
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I'd be interested to see people's reasons for these votes. In particular anyone voting Citadels over Confrontation - I'm going to assume most of you have played both, and IMO Confrontation is Renier Knizia's best game, so...

I really like Citadels, and Confrontation didn't sound overly exciting, and it's two player only.

What I'm more interested in: How can anyone vote TransEuropa over Galaxy Trucker?

I know some people who don't like GT. Blasphemy, I know, but they're not keen on time-pressure games.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 17-24)
« Reply #163 on: February 13, 2013, 05:22:49 pm »
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I know some people who don't like GT. Blasphemy, I know, but they're not keen on time-pressure games.

In case you aren't up with the BGG news GT is coming to IOS
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 17-24)
« Reply #164 on: February 13, 2013, 05:25:48 pm »
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We have another tie... First to vote on Match 23 who hasn't already done so will break the tie.

Previous Results:

Match 17: Carcassonne 11-5 Tigris & Euphrates
Match 18: Galaxy Trucker 6-4 Trans Europa
Match 19: Citadels 9-2 Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
Match 20: Kingdom Builder 11-4 Boggle
Match 21: Mao 8-5 Charades
Match 22: Alhambra 7-1 Imperial
Match 23: The Castles of Burgundy 4-4 Love Letter
Match 24: The Settlers of Catan 10-4 Battlestar Galactica
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Tiebreaker needed!)
« Reply #165 on: February 13, 2013, 05:44:04 pm »
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I'll vote castles of burgundy.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 17-24)
« Reply #166 on: February 13, 2013, 05:48:19 pm »
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I know some people who don't like GT. Blasphemy, I know, but they're not keen on time-pressure games.

In case you aren't up with the BGG news GT is coming to IOS

Lol, I just checked this and it's supposed to have async online play.
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« Reply #167 on: February 13, 2013, 05:49:20 pm »
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I'll vote castles of burgundy.

You will not regret that vote. It's a super-quality game.
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Round 1 Matches 25-32
« Reply #168 on: February 13, 2013, 06:11:53 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 17: Carcassonne 11-5 Tigris & Euphrates
Match 18: Galaxy Trucker 6-4 Trans Europa
Match 19: Citadels 9-2 Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation
Match 20: Kingdom Builder 11-4 Boggle
Match 21: Mao 8-5 Charades
Match 22: Alhambra 7-1 Imperial
Match 23: The Castles of Burgundy 4.1-4 Love Letter
Match 24: The Settlers of Catan 10-4 Battlestar Galactica

Round 1, cont.

Match 25
Ticket to Ride
Diplomacy

Match 26
Blood Bowl (All Editions)
Power Grid

Match 27
Tales of the Arabian Nights
Goa

Match 28
Pandemic
Magic: The Gathering

Match 29
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender
Tichu

Match 30
Niagara
Terra Mystica

Match 31
Dixit
Hanabi

Match 32
Dungeons & Dragons
Agricola
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Round 1 Matches 25-32
« Reply #169 on: February 13, 2013, 06:12:12 pm »
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Stats

Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

Ticket to Ride - 4 | 2.89 | Ozle, michaeljb, Rabid, qmech; Forge!!!
Diplomacy - 1 | 3.28 | mith

Blood Bowl - 1 | 2.00 | Ozle
Power Grid - 1 | 1.00 | hasaile; Tables, Lekkit, ipofanes

Tales of the Arabian Nights - 1 | 1.00 | Watno
Goa - 1 | 2.00 | RichardNixon

Pandemic - 1 | 3.00 | Qvist; mith, D Bo, Tables
Magic: The Gathering - 2 | 1.00 | Ozle, Rabid

Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender - 2 | 2.64 | Thisisnotasmile, Rabid
Tichu - 1 | 2.61 | soulnet; theory

Niagara - 1 | 2.50 | Watno
Terra Mystica - 2 | 3.17 | ipofanes, Watno

Dixit - 1 | 1.36 | Davio; Tables
Hanabi - 1 | 1.50 | theory; Qvist

Dungeons & Dragons - 1 | 3.53 | michaeljb
Agricola - 5 | 1.75 | mith, hsaile, michaeljb, Rabid, Insomniac; Davio


I'm struggling to think of a name for this one, so I'll go with the Revision Division, as it features several games with multiple versions. There also seems to be a sub-theme of Euro vs. Ameritrash, though there's a lot of that throughout the bracket. Two BGG top 10 games, Agricola and Power Grid, as well as the two highest ranked 2012 games to make the bracket.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #170 on: February 13, 2013, 06:13:43 pm »
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Diplomacy
Pass
Pass
Pandemic
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calendar
Terra Mystica
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #171 on: February 13, 2013, 06:14:38 pm »
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That's mean, you put my games up against each other :(
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #172 on: February 13, 2013, 06:14:42 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
Power Grid
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Tichu
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Hanabi
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #173 on: February 13, 2013, 06:17:12 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
pass
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Magic: The Gathering
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Hanabi
Agricola

I love D&D but the edition wasn't specified and I rarely find the time for D&D while I can find time for Agricola much more frequently and is harder to get a group together for
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #174 on: February 13, 2013, 06:18:30 pm »
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A link to the bracket spreadsheet has been added to the OP, now that the final division is up.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #175 on: February 13, 2013, 06:20:00 pm »
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I love D&D but the edition wasn't specified and I rarely find the time for D&D while I can find time for Agricola much more frequently and is harder to get a group together for

"Any expansions are included with the base game - for example, if Dominion were included in the tournament, you would be basing your vote on all the cards, or any subset cards you prefer to play with. Alternate names/editions will be combined, as will very similar games within the same family."

It's not totally clear from my wording, but the intention here with game families is that you can base your vote on whichever edition you like.
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« Reply #176 on: February 13, 2013, 06:21:39 pm »
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I love D&D but the edition wasn't specified and I rarely find the time for D&D while I can find time for Agricola much more frequently and is harder to get a group together for

"Any expansions are included with the base game - for example, if Dominion were included in the tournament, you would be basing your vote on all the cards, or any subset cards you prefer to play with. Alternate names/editions will be combined, as will very similar games within the same family."

It's not totally clear from my wording, but the intention here with game families is that you can base your vote on whichever edition you like.

Hmm that makes it tougher, but I still like my vote for Agricola here.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #177 on: February 13, 2013, 06:28:49 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
Power Grid
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Pandemic
Tichu
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Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #178 on: February 13, 2013, 06:42:09 pm »
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Power Grid
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Pandemic
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #179 on: February 13, 2013, 07:00:36 pm »
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Way behind on comments, apologies for the long post:

Division 2
  • Stone Age has gotten a tad stale, but it's still a solid worker placement game, and I have no interest in Monad.
  • Stratego was a childhood favorite, but it's not very interesting to me now. Go is something I would like to study, if I didn't have so many other interests eating my time.
  • Love Dungeon Lords... would probably enjoy Fiasco, but hard for an RPG to win me over in general.
  • Mr. Jack wins by default; Telestrations/EPYC is more of an activity than a game (though an entertaining one).
  • Spades is another old favorite, which I still would play. Small World is alright, but my copy got left with my ex and I haven't felt compelled to get another.
  • Hearts is in the same boat as Spades; I want to try 1830, but in general I don't like stock games much at all.
  • Toughest matchup of this group is Chess vs. Brass. Chess is of course the lifelong favorite, but Brass has been an online addiction only surpassed by Dominion for the past year or so.
  • Race for the Galaxy is my third favorite game (behind Mafia and Dominion). Easy choice.

Division 3
  • Caracassonne is alright, but never grabbed me (probably because I was into much heavier games before I ever tried it). Tigris & Euphrates is a more interesting game.
  • Galaxy Trucker wins the battle of games I haven't played; it's near the top of my to-play list, whereas I have no interest in the Trans ____ games.
  • Lord of the Rings: The Confrontation is a really elegant design that I wish I could get to the table more. Citadels I haven't had a chance to try, but I don't forsee it jumping ahead in this matchup when I do.
  • Kingdom Builder. I hate Boggle.
  • Mao is a novel, puzzle-ish game. Charades is usually lame on its own (though I do like certain variants - Time's Up is excellent and has a Charades component toward the end; Reverse Charades was a blast at BGG.con).
  • Alhambra wins mostly due to my friend Jay complaining about his play of Imperial. I suspect I wouldn't like it much, between the stocks and politics. (I do like the rondel mechanic as a general concept, though.)
  • The Castles of Burgundy is a really nice design; Love Letter seems alright but with not much meat.
  • The Settlers of Catan in a close one. I actually don't let myself play Settles anymore (I find the negotiation aspect too stressful), but it's undeniably a classic. Meanwhile, I think BSG is a fun experience, but I'm not sure about it as a game.

Division 4
  • Ticket to Ride is alright I guess, but Diplomacy is a classic, and was my second favorite game for a long time (exclusively PBF).
  • My first passes of the tournament, back-to-back. I disliked Power Grid in my one play of it, and haven't played Blood Bowl (though I disliked Team Manager, so I don't have hopes that I would like it anyway).
  • Tales of the Arabian Nights is again a fun experience more than a good game. I haven't played Goa and think I might prefer it if I had.
  • Pandemic beats Magic in a close one. Pandemic is a lot of fun both co-op and solo. I like Magic in limited formats, but I only rarely play.
  • Tzolk'in I think is really solid after two plays. Tichu I'd like to get better at, but it's not going to beat a good Euro.
  • Terra Mystica is my favorite of the new games, and I have little interest in Niagara.
  • I have bad associations with Dixit, plus is not much of a game. The cards are awesome, though. Hanabi wins easily.
  • See above comments about RPGs; D&D could be fun with a good DM and the right crowd, but Agricola is excellent.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #180 on: February 13, 2013, 07:11:15 pm »
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Real Blood Bowl has hardly anything in common with Team Manager I think, but I disliked the latter, too.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #181 on: February 13, 2013, 07:54:25 pm »
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Diplomacy
Power Grid
Pandemic
Agricola
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« Reply #182 on: February 13, 2013, 08:00:18 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
Power Grid
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Pandemic
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender
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Dixit
Agricola
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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« Reply #183 on: February 13, 2013, 08:05:22 pm »
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Match 25
Ticket to Ride
Diplomacy

Diplomacy is one of those games that I finds persists primarily on reputation alone. It's an okayish game, but in terms of long, low (or even no) luck multiplayer strategy games, I feel there are much better options. TtR is far from a favourite game, but it's strategic, relatively quick and fun.

Match 26
Blood Bowl (All Editions)
Power Grid

I've heard bad things about Blood Bowl, and Power Grid is fun. Unfortunately that's about as far as I can go.

Match 27
Tales of the Arabian Nights
Goa

Never played either. Pass.

Match 28
Pandemic
Magic: The Gathering

Pandemic is one of the best co-ops out their, hampered only by the frequent play by dictator that can happen. Magic could be the best game in the world, it's still just not worth the price. And the times I've played Magic, I enjoyed it, but it didn't make me go away and wish I could play it more.

Match 29
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender
Tichu

Never played Tichu, but it's not a game that appeals to me. Tzolk'in is really fun though. Strategic and fun.

Match 30
Niagara
Terra Mystica

The one time I played Naigara, I really enjoyed it. Terra Mystica is a name I often see thrown around but it doesn't really interest me.

Match 31
Dixit
Hanabi

Dixit is a really nice game, it's very relaxing fun. Hanabi is the opposite, extremely stressful, but rewarding. I like to be able to talk openly and make jokes during my games though, and Hanabi really restricts that, so it has to be Dixit.

Match 32
Dungeons & Dragons
Agricola

I do not like roleplaying.
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« Reply #184 on: February 13, 2013, 09:06:32 pm »
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Diplomacy
Power Grid
Pass
Magic: The Gathering
Tichu
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Dixit
Agricola
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« Reply #185 on: February 13, 2013, 10:48:51 pm »
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Match 25
Pass

Match 26
Power Grid

Match 27
Pass

Match 28
Pandemic

Match 29
I loved Tzolk'in when I played it, and I really want to vote on this, but I haven't played Tichu. Sadly, I must pass.

Match 30
Pass

Match 31
Hanabi
I like both games, but I have to go with Hanabi. I view Dixit the same way as Apples to Apples -- Fun to play but no real depth.

Match 32
Agricola
I stopped being a fan of D&D when I discovered other RPGs.
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« Reply #186 on: February 14, 2013, 10:26:36 am »
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Ticket to Ride
Pass
Pass
Pandemic
Tichu
Pass
Hanabi
Agricola

Ticket to Ride - Diplomacy: Diplomacy wasn't so appealing here to me. So, it's an easy choice.
Blood Bowl (All Editions) - Power Grid: I'm learning Power Grid currently here in the forums and it's fun, probably not one of my favourites, but it's neat. I haven't played Blood Bowl yet, so I have to pass.
Tales of the Arabian Nights - Goa: I'm interested in both, but never played either.
Pandemic - Magic: The Gathering: I love Pandemic and MtG is a good game too, but Pandemic is still the obvious choice.
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender - Tichu: I don't like the "pure" Worker Placement games that much. I never played Tzolk'in and it seems it might be one of the better Worker Placement games, but still doesn't appeal to me that much. Tichu on the other side is a great game. If I only had more players to play it F2F!
Niagara - Terra Mystica: Never played either of those. I'm looking forward to play Terra Mystica in the forums, but I really can't vote here.
Dixit - Hanabi: This is tough. I really like Hanabi, but Dixit is also a good party game. I guess I have to go with Hanabi.
Dungeons & Dragons - Agricola: I wasn't that overwhelmed after my first playthrough of Agricola. It's a good game, but I'm not sure if I try it again. D&D on the other side doesn't appeal to me at all, because I'm not a role player. It's safe to vote for Agricola here.

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« Reply #187 on: February 14, 2013, 11:50:22 am »
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Ticket to Ride
Power Grid
Goa
Pandemic
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender
Terra Mystica
Hanabi
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« Reply #188 on: February 14, 2013, 12:45:39 pm »
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Say what you will about Diplomacy as a game, but it definitely leads to some entertaining arguments...
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« Reply #189 on: February 14, 2013, 01:15:06 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
Power Grid
Pass
Magic: The Gathering
Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calender
Niagara
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Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #190 on: February 14, 2013, 02:57:09 pm »
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7 Wonders
San Guo Sha
Ra
Twilight Struggle
Steam
Pass
Mage Knight: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization


Stone Age
Go
Pass
Telestrations
Small World
1830: Railways & Robber Barons
Hearts
Pass
Race for the Galaxy


Tigris & Euphrates
Galaxy Trucker
Citadels
Pass
Charades
Imperial
Imperial again Pass
Pass


Ticket to Ride
Diplomacy
Power Grid
Goa
Magic: The Gathering
Tichu
Pass
Pass
Dungeons & Dragons
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« Reply #191 on: February 14, 2013, 03:11:09 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
(the only match where I played both, and boy is this hard. When in doubt, pick the classic, but let's face facts, one of these two I haven't played for decades, for reasons of long playing time, rare player count, and awkward n-way-draw endings.)

Power Grid
(never played Blood Bowl, but American football does not really click with me, and Power Grid is one of my favourites.)

Tales of the Arabian Nights
(never played Goa, and Tales can be a PITA if you are not in the mood for it. Still, you got to honour the yuthor's work on that.)

Magic: The Gathering
(never played Pandemic, but a bit reserved towards cooperative games. Space Alert didn't score with my family.)

Tichu
(never played Tzol'kin,heard good things, but when in doubt, pick the classic)

Terra Mystica
(never played Niagara, but TM is the shit.)

Dixit
(never played Hanabi, but Dixit hits our table very often)

Agricola
(never played it, but rlying on everyone else's opinion.)
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« Reply #192 on: February 14, 2013, 06:04:20 pm »
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I had no idea this was happening: \in!

Ticket to Ride
Power Grid
Pass
Pandemic (this was probably my hardest choice, but as much as I love Magic I also hate that they want you to spend one zillion dollars to play it properly)
Pass
Pass
Dixit
Dungeons & Dragons (I love Agricola, but this was an easy choice.)
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« Reply #193 on: February 14, 2013, 06:08:44 pm »
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Can I still vote on previous matches or are they closed?

Nevermind, my votes wouldn't change anything. The only really close things I have no opinion on.
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« Reply #194 on: February 14, 2013, 07:11:37 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
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Magic: The Gathering
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #195 on: February 14, 2013, 07:15:35 pm »
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Can I still vote on previous matches or are they closed?

Nevermind, my votes wouldn't change anything. The only really close things I have no opinion on.

Won't be counted, but you should certainly feel free to give your thoughts on matchups you missed!
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« Reply #196 on: February 15, 2013, 12:41:08 am »
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Say what you will about Diplomacy as a game, but it definitely leads to some entertaining arguments...

You seem to not have gotten over it after ten years.
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« Reply #197 on: February 15, 2013, 11:52:48 am »
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Power Grid
Goa
Pandemic
Pass
Pass
Hanabi
D&D

I've never played Hanabi, but almost anything is better than Dixit.
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« Reply #198 on: February 15, 2013, 11:56:04 am »
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Ticket to Ride
Blood Bowl (All Editions)
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Magic: The Gathering
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Niagara
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« Reply #199 on: February 15, 2013, 12:18:57 pm »
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You seem to not have gotten over it after ten years.

But... someone was wrong on the internet! How could you ever get over that? (Actually, I met several of the players from that game not long after that, including my nemesis, and there were no lasting bad feelings. I am still amused by the whole situation though, and especially the exchange linked.)
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« Reply #200 on: February 15, 2013, 12:25:24 pm »
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pass
pass
Tales of the Arabian Nights
pass
pass
Terra Mystica
Hanabi
Agricola

Tales of the Arabian Nights is a great game. It's all about the the experience, but what els than experience do you play games for?
I'm really annoyed I can't vote for both Niagara and Terra Mystica. Niagara is a great accessible game that you can play with many people, but Terra Mystica is really great.
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Re: Round 1 Matches 25-32
« Reply #201 on: February 17, 2013, 08:21:36 am »
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Ticket to Ride
pass out remaining 7

Ticket to Ride is great, and one of the first proper board games I played.  Of the others I've only played Pandemic, but I'm not a fan.  I suspect MtG is quite fun if you overlook the horrendous costs involved in playing, so I abstained.
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« Reply #202 on: February 20, 2013, 12:40:19 pm »
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #203 on: February 20, 2013, 01:30:06 pm »
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Ticket to Ride
Blood Bowl (All Editions)
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Magic: The Gathering
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Dixit
Dungeons & Dragons
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 1 Matches 25-32)
« Reply #204 on: February 20, 2013, 02:53:08 pm »
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Round 2 Matches 33-40
« Reply #205 on: February 20, 2013, 05:32:48 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 25: Ticket to Ride 15-3 Diplomacy
Match 26: Power Grid 13-2 Blood Bowl
Match 27: Goa 3-2 Tales of the Arabian Nights
Match 28: Pandemic 10-8 Magic: The Gathering
Match 29: Tichu 6-4 Tzolk'in: The Mayan Calendar
Match 30: Terra Mystica 4-2 Niagara
Match 31: Hanabi 8-5 Dixit
Match 32: Agricola 13-5 Dungeons & Dragons

Round 2

Match 33
7 Wonders
Set
   
Match 34
Mafia/Werewolf
Twilight Struggle
   
Match 35
Puerto Rico
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
   
Match 36
Taboo
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

Match 37
Stone Age
Stratego
   
Match 38
Dungeon Lords
Mr. Jack
   
Match 39
Small World
Hearts
   
Match 40
Chess
Race for the Galaxy
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Round 2 Matches 33-40
« Reply #206 on: February 20, 2013, 05:34:12 pm »
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Stats

Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

7 Wonders - 8 | 2.00 | Tables, Thisisnotasmile, Davio, flies, RichardNixon, Forge!!!, soulnet, eHalcyon, Insomniac; mith, D Bo
Set - 1 | 1.50 | soulnet
   
Mafia - 2 | 2.89 | mith, michaeljb
Twilight Struggle - 2 | 2.72 | Tables, theory
   
Puerto Rico - 3 | 2.34 | Davio, michaeljb, Rabid
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game - 1 | 2.00 | Qvist
   
Taboo - 1 | 2.00 | Lekkit
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization - 3 | 1.98 | mith, Tables, ipofanes; Qvist

Stone Age - 4 | 2.41 | Thisisnotasmile, Davio, Ozle, Rabid; RichardNixon
Stratego - 1 | 1.86 | Forge!!!
   
Dungeon Lords - 1 | 2.28 | Rabid
Mr. Jack - 1 | 2.86 | Forge!!!
   
Small World - 2 | 2.10 | Davio, qmech
Hearts - 2 | 3.61 | Thisisnotasmile, eHalcyon
   
Chess - 1 | 1.20 | michaeljb
Race for the Galaxy - 4 | 2.05 | mith, Lekkit, Rabid, Insomniac; theory


Civilization Division looks set for a difficult final four, with each match featuring a BGG top 13 game, and also three DS.com PBF favorites still alive. Meanwhile, seeding favorite Race for the Galaxy is the top remaining in Classics Division at 19, while three pre-1950 games continue to hang around. We nearly avoid matching up two nominations from anyone's list, but with 7 Wonders getting so much love it's no surprise that its match breaks that trend.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 2 Matches 33-40)
« Reply #207 on: February 20, 2013, 05:34:45 pm »
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7 Wonders
Mafia
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #208 on: February 20, 2013, 05:37:49 pm »
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7 wonders
Mafia
Puerto Rico
Pass
Pass
Pass
Small world
Chess

Edited to include passes.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 2 Matches 33-40)
« Reply #209 on: February 20, 2013, 05:44:09 pm »
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(Please put "Pass" on matches you skip, and also please don't add additional lines - such as the match number - or inline comments. It makes it a lot easier on me putting it in the spreadsheet.)
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 2 Matches 33-40)
« Reply #210 on: February 20, 2013, 05:49:04 pm »
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7 Wonders
Twilight Struggle
Puerto Rico
Taboo
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #211 on: February 20, 2013, 05:49:50 pm »
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7 Wonders
Pass   
Puerto Rico
Taboo
Stone Age
Pass   
Pass   
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #212 on: February 20, 2013, 06:33:35 pm »
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Set
Mafia/Werewolf
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stratego
Pass
Small World
Chess

Set: I'm probably the only person who will vote for this, but I actually really enjoy the puzzles involved in Set. I played a ton of this game as a teenager. 7 Wonders is a fun game, but I don't really like the drafting mechanics as much as others seem to.
Mafia/Werewolf vs Twilight Struggle: I actually love both these games, but how can I vote against Mafia?
Puerto Rico: Never played Civilization the board game, but Puerto Rico was a gateway game for me. It was mindblowing for me and my friends who spent a couple years playing this obsessively.
Dungeon Lords vs Mr. Jack: I haven't played either of these, but have heard good things about both of them. I liked Dungeon Petz when I played it. Interested in seeing what wins this one.
Chess vs Race for the Galaxy... argh, I guess Chess is a classic. Interested in seeing the results on this one.
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« Reply #213 on: February 20, 2013, 06:56:24 pm »
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7 Wonders
Twilight Struggle
Pass
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
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Pass
Small World
Chess
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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« Reply #214 on: February 20, 2013, 07:04:19 pm »
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Set
Twilight Struggle
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pass
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Mr. Jack
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 2 Matches 33-40)
« Reply #215 on: February 20, 2013, 07:29:17 pm »
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Re: Round 2 Matches 33-40
« Reply #216 on: February 20, 2013, 07:30:47 pm »
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Mafia
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Through the Ages
Stratego
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Small World
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« Reply #217 on: February 20, 2013, 07:37:46 pm »
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7 Wonders
Twilight Struggle
Civilization
Pass
Stratego
Pass
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy

Tough call on 7 Wonders/Set - like Jorbles, I played this game a TON during high school and college. But I like that everyone I've played 7 Wonders with has enjoyed it. Sometimes it's hard to find Set partners.
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« Reply #218 on: February 20, 2013, 07:59:50 pm »
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7 Wonders
pass
pass
Taboo
pass
pass
Hearts
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« Reply #220 on: February 20, 2013, 11:37:52 pm »
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Match 33
7 Wonders
   
Match 34
Mafia/Werewolf
   
Match 35
Puerto Rico
   
Match 36
Pass

Match 37
Pass
   
Match 38
Pass
   
Match 39
Small World
   
Match 40
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #221 on: February 21, 2013, 12:53:02 am »
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Set
Mafia
Puerto Rico
Taboo
Stratego
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Hearts
Chess
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« Reply #222 on: February 21, 2013, 03:46:40 am »
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7 Wonders
Mafia
Pass   
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Pass   
Pass   
Hearts
Chess

Apart from TtA vs Taboo, there was no match where I know both games. I like 7 Wonders a lot though, and Mafia, Hearts and Chess are classics. So is Stratego, but I hate Stratego, it's a bit too much of fog of war to me.

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« Reply #223 on: February 21, 2013, 05:18:15 am »
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7 Wonders
Mafia
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #224 on: February 23, 2013, 01:23:34 am »
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Pass
Mafia/Werewolf
Pass
Taboo
Stratego
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Small World
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #225 on: February 23, 2013, 01:41:12 pm »
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7 Wonders
Pass
Puerto Rico
Pass
Stratego (Yeaaah...I'm not a fan of Stone Age)
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Hearts
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« Reply #226 on: February 23, 2013, 02:14:16 pm »
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7 Wonders
Mafia/Werewolf
Puerto Rico
Taboo
Stratego
pass   
Hearts
Chess

edit: just learned 7 Wonders last night, and I liked it a lot. I've played Set a few times a long time ago and didn't especially like it, but anyway I've changed my vote from pass to 7 Wonders
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« Reply #227 on: February 23, 2013, 07:33:10 pm »
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Set
Pass
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages
Stone Age
Pass
Pass
Chess
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« Reply #228 on: February 25, 2013, 11:31:21 am »
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7 Wonders
Mafia/Werewolf
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Mr. Jack
Small World
Race for the Galaxy
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« Reply #229 on: February 25, 2013, 11:33:53 am »
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Round 2


7 Wonders
Pass
Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy


I cant help but think we should have limited this to board games or Chess's universal appeal and the fact that everybody has probably played it over thier lives gives it a distinct advantage.
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« Reply #230 on: February 25, 2013, 11:57:49 am »
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I don't think it's a problem. Chess is already losing this round and even if it does pull out the win, there are a lot of other strong contenders around. Fairly certain Chess is not going to win this.
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« Reply #231 on: February 25, 2013, 11:58:50 am »
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Also, Chess IS a boardgame. I don't see how limiting it to boardgames would solve the "Chess has an advantage" problem.
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« Reply #232 on: February 25, 2013, 12:06:18 pm »
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 2 Matches 33-40)
« Reply #233 on: February 26, 2013, 03:12:35 pm »
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My thoughts on this set:

Division 1/2

  • Favorite gateway game vs. more-puzzle-than-game which I would have liked as a kid but have little interest in playing now. 7 Wonders easily.
  • The all-time favorite wins, but Twilight Struggle is a worthy opponent.
  • Puerto Rico is a classic. Civilization is fun, but I'd rather play the video game version (or Through the Ages, for that matter).
  • I'm up over 50 games of Through the Ages now; meanwhile, what I said about Taboo causing arguments still applies.
  • Stone Age easily over Stratego - Stone Age may have gotten a little stale, but Stratego holds no interest at all any more.
  • Mr. Jack is a nice two player that I would like to explore more, but it doesn't have the depth and fun of Dungeon Lords.
  • "Spades is another old favorite, which I still would play. Small World is alright, but my copy got left with my ex and I haven't felt compelled to get another." - Replace Spades with Hearts for this round...
  • Another tough matchup for Chess, and again I go with the newer favorite.

Next set up tomorrow, get your votes in before then...
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« Reply #234 on: February 26, 2013, 03:17:38 pm »
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What kind of arguments does Taboo cause for your group?
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« Reply #235 on: February 26, 2013, 03:27:12 pm »
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Playing with family, we always seemed to end up having arguments over whether a clue given was too close to something on the card.
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Round 2 Matches 41-48
« Reply #236 on: February 27, 2013, 01:07:49 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 33: 7 Wonders 16-4 Set
Match 34: Mafia/Werewolf 11-4 Twilight Struggle
Match 35: Puerto Rico 11-4 Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game
Match 36: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization 10-6 Taboo
Match 37: Stone Age 8-7 Stratego
Match 38: Dungeon Lords 4-2 Mr. Jack
Match 39: Hearts 11-8 Small World
Match 40: Race for the Galaxy 11-8 Chess

Round 2, cont.

Match 41
Carcassonne
Galaxy Trucker
   
Match 42
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
   
Match 43
Mao
Alhambra
   
Match 44
The Castles of Burgundy
The Settlers of Catan

Match 45
Ticket to Ride
Power Grid

Match 46
Goa
Pandemic

Match 47
Tichu
Terra Mystica

Match 48
Hanabi
Agricola
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Round 2 Matches 41-48
« Reply #237 on: February 27, 2013, 01:08:05 pm »
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Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

Carcassonne - 4 | 2.03 | D Bo, hsaile, Ozle, Forge!!!; michaeljb
Galaxy Trucker - 1 | 1.33 | Tables
   
Citadels - 2 | 3.24 | Thisisnotasmile, soulnet
Kingdom Builder - 2 | 2.42 | Rabid, Insomniac; Lekkit
   
Mao - 2 | 1.68 | soulnet, eHalcyon
Alhambra - 1 | 2.00 | D Bo
   
The Castles of Burgundy - 1 | 1.00 | D Bo
The Settlers of Catan - 4 | 2.54 | Davio, Ozle, flies, eHalcyon; Qvist

Ticket to Ride - 4 | 2.89 | Ozle, michaeljb, Rabid, qmech; Forge!!!
Power Grid - 1 | 1.00 | hasaile; Tables, Lekkit, ipofanes

Goa - 1 | 2.00 | RichardNixon
Pandemic - 1 | 3.00 | Qvist; mith, D Bo, Tables

Tichu - 1 | 2.61 | soulnet; theory
Terra Mystica - 2 | 3.17 | ipofanes, Watno

Hanabi - 1 | 1.50 | theory; Qvist
Agricola - 5 | 1.75 | mith, hsaile, michaeljb, Rabid, Insomniac; Davio


Gateway Division has taken over this entire half of the bracket, with most of the Revision Division namesakes falling. Lots of classic Euros here, and unlike in the first half of the round, we have succeeded in avoiding matching anyone's nominations.
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« Reply #238 on: February 27, 2013, 01:09:49 pm »
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Pass
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
The Castles of Burgundy
Ticket to Ride
Pandemic
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« Reply #239 on: February 27, 2013, 01:12:22 pm »
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Carcassonne
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
The Castles of Burgundy
Power Grid
Goa
Terra Mystica
Agricola
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« Reply #240 on: February 27, 2013, 01:35:57 pm »
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citadels
alhambra
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Power grid
Goa
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« Reply #241 on: February 27, 2013, 01:44:12 pm »
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Aha. Now I'm starting to get games I know paired up against each other. Still can't vote for everything, but I'm feeling more informed.


Galaxy Trucker
Citadels
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The Castles of Burgundy
Power Grid
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« Reply #242 on: February 27, 2013, 01:48:17 pm »
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Carcassonne
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
The Castles of Burgundy
Power Grid
Goa
Terra Mystica
Agricola

I actually meant to vote for Citadels but Citadels vs Kingdom Builder was such a close match that I'll just leave that as it is.
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« Reply #243 on: February 27, 2013, 02:20:39 pm »
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Galaxy Trucker
Citadels
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Pass
Power Grid
Pandemic
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Agricola
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« Reply #244 on: February 27, 2013, 02:37:34 pm »
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Galaxy Trucker
Citadels
Mao
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
Pandemic
Tichu
Agricola
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« Reply #245 on: February 27, 2013, 06:08:51 pm »
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Pass
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Pass
Pass
Power Grid
Pass
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Agricola

That was... Fun.
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« Reply #246 on: February 27, 2013, 06:14:45 pm »
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Settlers of Catan
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« Reply #247 on: February 27, 2013, 06:32:21 pm »
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Carcassone
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Alhambra
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Pandemic
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« Reply #248 on: February 27, 2013, 06:47:29 pm »
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Carcassonne
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan
Ticket to Ride
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« Reply #249 on: February 27, 2013, 06:54:27 pm »
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Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
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Agricola
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« Reply #250 on: February 27, 2013, 07:28:03 pm »
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Pass
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Power Grid
Pandemic
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Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan
Ticket to Ride
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Carcassonne
Kingdom Builder
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The Settlers of Catan
Ticket to Ride
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« Reply #254 on: February 28, 2013, 03:33:30 am »
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45 Power Grid
47 Terra Mystica

pass on the others

Tichu is a great game that however didn't really click with me. Terra Mystica, OTOH, I have a crush on.
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« Reply #255 on: February 28, 2013, 10:12:33 am »
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Galaxy Trucker
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Alhambra
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Pandemic
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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« Reply #256 on: February 28, 2013, 10:15:35 am »
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Match 41
Carcassonne
Galaxy Trucker

GT is a long time favourite of mine. Carcassonne always seems to drag, even though games take about 30-60 minutes.
   
Match 42
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
 
Not played either.

Match 43
Mao
Alhambra

Alhambra wins by default of actually being a game, not a social experiment.
   
Match 44
The Castles of Burgundy
The Settlers of Catan

Not played Castles of Burgundy but heard good things about it. Not a fan of Settlers, too political.

Match 45
Ticket to Ride
Power Grid

TtR is a nice fun quick(ish) game, while Power Grid is a deep, complex strategic game. I'm a strategy person, so PG gets the point.

Match 46
Goa
Pandemic

Pandemic is one of my favourite co-ops. Don't know Goa, but sorry if it's actually good.

Match 47
Tichu
Terra Mystica

Don't know either, neither really appeal to me.

Match 48
Hanabi
Agricola

Hanabi is fun, but scares me (in a bad way). Agricola I've only played a few times, but I've enjoyed it each time so far.
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« Reply #257 on: February 28, 2013, 10:17:31 am »
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Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
Pandemic
Tichu
Hanabi

Reasoning:

Match 41
Carcassonne
Galaxy Trucker

I dislike Carcassonne and though GT is annoying to explain like all Vlaada games, it is unique and barrels of fun.
   
Match 42
Citadels
Kingdom Builder
 
I really dislike Citadels and I do like KB quite a bit.

Match 43
Mao
Alhambra

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Alhambra wins by default of actually being a game, not a social experiment.
   
Match 44
The Castles of Burgundy
The Settlers of Catan

Catan is the classic.  How can you not vote for Catan?  Deeper than it seems at first.

Match 45
Ticket to Ride
Power Grid

TtR is kind of annoying to me.  I'd have voted for it in a lot of other places, but PG is too good of a game to overlook my dislikes of TtR (long playtime, dream-shattering, etc.)

Match 46
Goa
Pandemic

Pandemic is wonderful.

Match 47
Tichu
Terra Mystica

Tichu is one of my favorite games.

Match 48
Hanabi
Agricola

Hanabi is one of my favorite games.
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« Reply #258 on: February 28, 2013, 10:33:53 am »
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+1 just for demonstrating that at least some people are actually reading my thoughts on the games (I'm reading most peoples comments, in case anyone else was wondering, and mith is probably reading most of them)
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« Reply #260 on: February 28, 2013, 03:50:52 pm »
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Boooo you guys, Mao is a great game when you get into it. :P
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A great what now?
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« Reply #262 on: February 28, 2013, 06:48:30 pm »
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Boooo you guys, Mao is a great game when you get into it. :P

Could not agree more. Has more replayability than any other game I've known for so long (maybe Dominion is better, but only time can tell, as I've only played for 6 months).
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« Reply #263 on: February 28, 2013, 10:22:35 pm »
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Carcassonne
Citadels
Alhambra
The Castles of Burgundy
Ticket to Ride
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« Reply #264 on: March 04, 2013, 09:09:36 am »
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Galaxy Trucker
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Pass   
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
Pandemic
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« Reply #265 on: March 04, 2013, 09:39:25 am »
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Match 41
Carcassonne
Galaxy Trucker

I actually enjoy Carcassonne quite a bit.  It has its faults, but I'm happy to break it out on occasion.  Galaxy Trucker on the other hand is so very different from the rest, and just more fun to play.
   
Match 42
Citadels
Kingdom Builder

I have Citadels, never played Kingdom Builder.  I don't dislike Citadels, but it tends to drag on a bit too long for what it is.  I don't like it well enough to vote it over a game I've never played.

Match 43
Mao
Alhambra

Never played either.
   
Match 44
The Castles of Burgundy
The Settlers of Catan

Although Castles of Burgundy might be a good game (I've not played it), I really like Settlers.  The game that got me started into board games (previously I thought that all those board games at the back of the store looked too "gimicky" while I was picking up RPG books or 40k minis).  I still enjoy it quite a bit even if other games have surpassed it for regular play.

Match 45
Ticket to Ride
Power Grid

Ticket to Ride is good light fun, great for hanging out with people and playing a game.  Power Grid is just so much deeper and satisfying, great for playing a game with people.

Match 46
Goa
Pandemic

Pandemic is great.  I've always loved cooperative puzzle-solving (whether jigsaws, crosswords, whatever).  Pandemic is essentially that for me, a shifting puzzle to be figured out with others.  Never played Goa, but Pandemic is just so good.

Match 47
Tichu
Terra Mystica

I'm enjoying playing Terra Mystica in the forum-games section.  I've never played Tichu.  But I have played, and quite enjoy ladder-climbing games (recently got Haggis to do this 2/3-player).  The trick-taking element of Haggis makes it even more interesting (and I think Tichu has this too, except with partnerships?).  Terra Mystica strikes me as a little fiddly (while still fun), even though I've never played the physical game, just a few too many unrelated things going on.  It's cool and fun, but lacks elegance.  Tichu OTOH embodies many things that I enjoy in games generally, I've just never played it.  So, I've abstained.

Match 48
Hanabi
Agricola

Hanabi seems pretty cool from what I watched here.  Interesting deduction elements.  But I'm pretty confident that Agricola is in my top-5 games, so that's where I'm voting.  I got creamed my first play of Agricola, and all the possibilities stuck in my mind trying to figure out how to get a *working* farm.  Then I played a single-player first-round of the game until I started to get a feel for it, and it was still on my mind for about a week as I did that.  Then I won more often than not for a few games as I tried to express what I'd learned and help my opponents improve.  I think we're at the point where it's a pretty even game again, and it's cool to watch the strategy-space develop.
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« Reply #266 on: March 05, 2013, 11:36:31 am »
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« Reply #267 on: March 05, 2013, 11:40:49 am »
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Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder
Mao
The Castles of Burgundy
Power Grid
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 2 Matches 41-48)
« Reply #268 on: March 06, 2013, 05:33:14 pm »
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Tiebreaker Needed for Match 47... First to vote who hadn't already breaks the tie.

Match 41: Galaxy Trucker 8-5 Carcassonne
Match 42: Kingdom Builder 8-5 Citadels
Match 43: Alhambra 11-3 Mao
Match 44: The Settlers of Catan 7-5 The Castles of Burgundy
Match 45: Power Grid 13-7 Ticket to Ride
Match 46: Pandemic 9-2 Goa
Match 47: Terra Mystica 4-4 Tichu
Match 48: Agricola 12-3 Hanabi
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« Reply #269 on: March 06, 2013, 05:40:57 pm »
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I passed before, if that counts as not voting

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« Reply #270 on: March 06, 2013, 05:42:31 pm »
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« Reply #271 on: March 06, 2013, 05:45:20 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 41: Galaxy Trucker 8-5 Carcassonne
Match 42: Kingdom Builder 8-5 Citadels
Match 43: Alhambra 11-3 Mao
Match 44: The Settlers of Catan 7-5 The Castles of Burgundy
Match 45: Power Grid 13-7 Ticket to Ride
Match 46: Pandemic 9-2 Goa
Match 47: Terra Mystica 4.1-4 Tichu
Match 48: Agricola 12-3 Hanabi

Round 3

Match 49
7 Wonders
Mafia/Werewolf
   
Match 50
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

Match 51
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords
   
Match 52
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy

Match 53
Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder
   
Match 54
Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan

Match 55
Power Grid
Pandemic

Match 56
Terra Mystica
Agricola
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Round 3, Matched 49-56
« Reply #272 on: March 06, 2013, 05:45:27 pm »
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Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

7 Wonders - 8 | 2.00 | Tables, Thisisnotasmile, Davio, flies, RichardNixon, Forge!!!, soulnet, eHalcyon, Insomniac; mith, D Bo
Mafia - 2 | 2.89 | mith, michaeljb
   
Puerto Rico - 3 | 2.34 | Davio, michaeljb, Rabid
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization - 3 | 1.98 | mith, Tables, ipofanes; Qvist

Stone Age - 4 | 2.41 | Thisisnotasmile, Davio, Ozle, Rabid; RichardNixon
Dungeon Lords - 1 | 2.28 | Rabid
   
Hearts - 2 | 3.61 | Thisisnotasmile, eHalcyon
Race for the Galaxy - 4 | 2.05 | mith, Lekkit, Rabid, Insomniac; theory

Galaxy Trucker - 1 | 1.33 | Tables
Kingdom Builder - 2 | 2.42 | Rabid, Insomniac; Lekkit
   
Alhambra - 1 | 2.00 | D Bo
The Settlers of Catan - 4 | 2.54 | Davio, Ozle, flies, eHalcyon; Qvist

Power Grid - 1 | 1.00 | hasaile; Tables, Lekkit, ipofanes
Pandemic - 1 | 3.00 | Qvist; mith, D Bo, Tables

Terra Mystica - 2 | 3.17 | ipofanes, Watno
Agricola - 5 | 1.75 | mith, hsaile, michaeljb, Rabid, Insomniac; Davio


Our first big upsets (at least by seeding) in the second half of the round, with Galaxy Trucker knocking out overall 3 seed Carcassonne to prevent an all-gateway final four in Gateway Division, while Power Grid knocks off 7 seed Ticket to Ride in a battle of 2004 games. The big matchup of the round is Puerto Rico vs. Through the Ages, both ranked top 4 on BGG and our only games to get exactly 3 nominations to place them in the 8-9 matchup. Pandemic is the lowest seed remaining, but gets a lot of "listed lower" love (as does its opponent).
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #273 on: March 06, 2013, 05:47:10 pm »
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Mafia
Through the Ages
Dungeon Lords
Race for the Galaxy
Pass
Alhambra
Pandemic
Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #274 on: March 06, 2013, 05:53:16 pm »
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Mafia/Werewolf
pass
pass
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
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Re: Round 3, Matches 49-56
« Reply #275 on: March 06, 2013, 05:58:27 pm »
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7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #276 on: March 06, 2013, 06:09:14 pm »
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7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Hearts
Kingdom Builder
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
Terra Mystica
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #277 on: March 06, 2013, 06:12:31 pm »
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7 Wonders
Puerto Rico
Pass
Hearts
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
Pandemic
Agricola


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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #278 on: March 06, 2013, 06:52:29 pm »
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7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Pass
Hearts
Galaxy Trucker
Alhambra
Pandemic
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #279 on: March 06, 2013, 06:54:06 pm »
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7 Wonders
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Settlers of Catan
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #280 on: March 06, 2013, 07:00:14 pm »
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Match 49
7 Wonders
Mafia/Werewolf

I find this comparison difficult, but interesting... Mafia is a former favourite, but I've gone off of it more and more recently. 7 Wonders I've done the opposite, come to like more and more as time goes on. It's simple, but has tactical and strategic depth, and is a lot of fun to play with various numbers. Mafia I've played a lot, and I still feel it comes down mostly to guesswork almost always. F2F it can be fun in the right group, and online it's really impossible to get a good read without sinking huge amounts of time.
   
Match 50
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

TtA has quickly propelled itself up to being one of my favourite games. Puerto Rico I've played a few times, and it's okay, but not a game I really want to play much.

Match 51
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords

Not played either.
   
Match 52
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy

I don't like RftG. I feel like maybe I should give it another go now, though, perhaps... eh.

Match 53
Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder

Kingdom Builder does look good, but Galaxy Trucker man! Probably the best real time game I've played, and a lot of fun as long as you don't object to your ship falling apart a lot.
   
Match 54
Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan

Not a Settlers fan. Alhambra seems okay.

Match 55
Power Grid
Pandemic

Tough choice... the iconic Co-op against a real unique and impressive game. Pandemic wins it for me, I think... primarily because it's incredible with the expansion.

Match 56
Terra Mystica
Agricola

Hmm... I haven't played enough Agricola to really judge how much I like it, and Terra Mystica didn't really appeal to me. Had to pass.

Am I correct in thinking these are the only 16 games still in?
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #281 on: March 06, 2013, 07:18:20 pm »
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Yep, these are the final 16.

Since we'll be down to fewer matches in the next three rounds, I'll be adding some bonus matchups...
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #282 on: March 06, 2013, 07:19:44 pm »
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Yep, these are the final 16.

Since we'll be down to fewer matches in the next three rounds, I'll be adding some bonus matchups...

Request: Hearts vs. Spades
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #283 on: March 06, 2013, 07:38:23 pm »
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Mafia/Werewolf
Puerto Rico
Pass   
Race for the Galaxy
Galaxy Trucker
Pass
Power Grid
Agricola

Match 49:
Again FOS on anyone who votes against Mafia.
Match 50:
Puerto Rico is easier to teach someone in person, and honestly it's one of my favourites and probably always will be. TTA is really fun, but I think of it more as a computer game than a board game.
Match 52:
I don't dislike Hearts, but given the choice I can't imagine ever wanting to play it over RftG.
Match 53:
Kingdom Builder has a neat concept, but Galaxy Trucker how it incorporates time and puzzles is pretty brilliant and incredibly entertaining.   
Match 55:
Oh man tough choice, but Power Grid is slightly more elegant in executing its themes. Imho anyways.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #284 on: March 06, 2013, 07:49:47 pm »
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Yep, these are the final 16.

Since we'll be down to fewer matches in the next three rounds, I'll be adding some bonus matchups...

Request: Hearts vs. Spades

Co-request Diamonds vs. Clubs  ::)?
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #285 on: March 06, 2013, 07:50:46 pm »
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7 Wonders
Puerto Rico
pass
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
Agricola

I'm glad we are getting into "I have played IRL almost every game in every match" territory.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #286 on: March 06, 2013, 07:54:38 pm »
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I don't think I've given reasons for anything before, and it won't be so interesting because most of mine are passes, but...

Match 49
7 Wonders
Mafia/Werewolf

7 Wonders is an easy choice for me.  I would call this my absolute favourite game right now.  IRL it is quick and can fit in many people.  The learning curve is not steep, but there is certainly some skill involved.

I enjoy Mafia, but the reward-to-effort ratio is not as strong.  In real life, it feels a bit random to me.  I mean, it can come down to reading people physically, so there's that.  But I don't like it as much.  I prefer online Mafia, but THAT game is a different beast and requires a LOT of effort, IMO.
   
Match 50
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

I haven't played TtA.  I've played Puerto Rico once and I somehow won, even though I felt I was behind for most of the game.  Basically I never had any money but managed to start producing lots of Indigo and ship it repeatedly.  Probably the other players didn't have much more of a clue than I did, though most had played it before.

But this was a pass.

Match 51
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords

Haven't played either.
   
Match 52
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy

I haven't played RftG but I know of it.  I really enjoy Hearts, enough to vote it over a game I haven't tried.  I kind of expect RftG to pull through in the end anyway, although early votes seem to favour Hearts.

Match 53
Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder

Haven't played either, so pass here as well.  From what I know of the games, I imagine I would prefer Galaxy Trucker for the unique experience.
   
Match 54
Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan

Haven't played Alhambra but Settlers still has a hold of me.  Still love it.

Match 55
Power Grid
Pandemic

Passed on this... I played each of these once, and in both games we messed it up a bit.

In Power Grid, one of our players had to leave early on.  We continued without resetting, which really upset the balance because of the extra space left by the missing player.  It allowed me and another player to race ahead, building lots of cities for relatively cheap.

In Pandemic, we decided to play with 5 players even though it was only meant for 4 (IIRC).  We didn't stand a chance.

Match 56
Terra Mystica
Agricola

I have not played either of these either, so another pass.  I own Agricola though!  I just haven't had a chance to try it out.  I hope that impulse buy will turn out to be a good one.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #287 on: March 06, 2013, 07:56:11 pm »
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Yep, these are the final 16.

Since we'll be down to fewer matches in the next three rounds, I'll be adding some bonus matchups...

Request: Hearts vs. Spades

Co-request Diamonds vs. Clubs  ::)?

When I was in high school (I think), I made up a Diamonds game.  I cannot remember how it went, and though a group of us planned to, I never got to try it out.

As for Clubs, there is this.  I don't think it will hold up.  It's not even really a trick-taking game.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #288 on: March 06, 2013, 08:20:49 pm »
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7 wonders
pass on the rest

(I really like 7 wonders now and srsly soured on mafia)
(Can I even vote? I haven't been following this thread at all and don't know the rules, I just happened to check in to see that contest)
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #289 on: March 06, 2013, 10:56:26 pm »
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Mafia
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Hearts
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #290 on: March 06, 2013, 11:49:08 pm »
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7 Wonders
Puerto Rico
Pass
Hearts
Pass
Settlers of Catan
Pandemic
Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #291 on: March 06, 2013, 11:50:48 pm »
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7 Wonders (can't really put forward the argument that you can play this with 7 here; but hey, you can play it with 3!)
   
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization (never played Puerto Rico I must admit but I am willing to vote TtA all the way to the finals, now that Go is gone)

pass (haven't played either; Stone Age is available at our local library, I should try it out)
   
- (haven't played RftG, but Hearts does not hold that special a place in my spades)

- (haven't played either)
   
Alhambra (only because I play it more often and you can play it with a varying number of people)

Power Grid (haven't played Pandemic but cooperative games are not so hot with me)

- (an Uwe vs Uwe duel! haven't played Agricola but I tend to think I'd find it brilliant)

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« Reply #292 on: March 06, 2013, 11:58:37 pm »
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Match 49
7 Wonders
Mafia/Werewolf

7 Wonders is probably my favorite game right now. It’s so much fun, so quick, and easy to play. It gets major points from me for being easier to get to the table than anything else.

Mafia is fun, although I’ve only played it online, and not FtF. Copying what Tables said above, the reward-to-effort ratio is not great. I often walk away from a game promising to never do it again, even if it was fun, just due to the large time commitment.

7 Wonders gets the vote here.

Match 50
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

Puerto Rico is really fun, and although I’ve only gotten to play it ~5 times, I’ve really enjoyed playing it, especially as everyone I’ve played with has gotten better with each play. It just seems like every game, we’re learning constantly, getting better, and to me it’s a really intriguing game.

I actually played my first game of TtA this afternoon – it was only the short version, but I still enjoyed it, and I can see that it has a lot of depth and strategy to it. Right now, it’s still behind PR, but I could see it passing it very soon. 

Match 51
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords

Haven't played either.
   
Match 52
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy

Never played RftG, but heard great things. However, Hearts is one of my favorite games, and I grew up playing it and lost count of how many games I’ve played. Definitely hearts here, and I really hope it pulls through.

Match 53
Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder

Have not played either game.
   
Match 54
Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan

Alhambra looks very cool, I have not played it but I’ve wanted to try. However, Catan is one of the games that got me interested in buying other games, and I still play it semi-frequently with my non-gaming friends, so it gets the vote here.

Match 55
Power Grid
Pandemic

Haven’t played Power Grid. Pandemic is awesome, though!
 

Match 56
Terra Mystica
Agricola

Have not played Terra Mystica, but Agricola’s really fun, and I have been looking forward to playing it again since the last time I played it.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #293 on: March 07, 2013, 12:11:13 am »
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Mafia/Werewolf
Puerto Rico
pass   
Hearts
Kingdom Builder
The Settlers of Catan
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Agricola
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« Reply #294 on: March 07, 2013, 04:05:00 am »
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7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Race for the Galaxy
Pass
The Settlers of Catan
Pandemic
Terra Mystica

The Settlers of Catan vs. Alhambra match was tough. I like playing both of them. This was basically a coin flip

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« Reply #295 on: March 07, 2013, 04:05:28 am »
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Gonna give my reasons this time because I can...

Match 49
7 Wonders
Mafia/Werewolf

7 Wonders is a whole lot of fun for the 30 mins it takes. And it can play up to 7 (8) without adding additional playtime. Mafia is fun, but only when you can devote a week or two of your life (I've only ever played online) to a game, and more and more I can't do that. Mafia also gets longer and longer with extra players, and don't get me started on player elimination...
   
Match 50
Puerto Rico
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

After Dominion (and all of its expansions) Tta is my other 10 on BGG. I've only been playing for a month or two, but in that time I've played 10 or so games and each game I'm enjoying more and more. If BGG would let me rate a game more than 10 this would be leaving even Dominion in its dust... There, I said it. Banish me from f.DS. It was worth it.

Match 51
Stone Age
Dungeon Lords

Never played Lords but I've seen reviews and it kind of looks more complex than it needs to be for what it is. Stone Age, on the other hand, is an excellent light Worker Placement and WP is probably my all time favourite single mechanic.
   
Match 52
Hearts
Race for the Galaxy

I must say, I'm surprised at how many Hearts votes there have been. I voted for it because I nominated it but I fully expected a one sided match in RFTG's favour here when I saw the match list. I don't dislike RFTG. It's just one of the games I tell myself "This is totally my type of game... if I could play enough to get my head around what the hell is going on" (see Glory to Rome for another game in this category). Unfortunately, I can't bring myself to get those extra plays. I'd rather play something else that I already understand and enjoy.

Match 53
Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder

Never played Galaxy Trucker, but I've played time pressure games (Space Alert, Escape the Cursed Temple) before and they just didn't do it for me. At all. Kingdom Builder is simple and fun. It has wooden bits and is very colourful. It has "Donald X Vaccarino" on the box.
   
Match 54
Alhambra
The Settlers of Catan

When I saw Alhambra played on TableTop I thought "Wow. What a fun little game!" I couldn't wait to get to play it. Then I played it. Maybe it was just a bad experience, but it just felt like I was completely screwed by luck of the draw and it sucked all of the fun out for me. Everytime it was my turn there were no buildings I wanted (or could afford) to buy. Every time I did get to buy something (whether I wanted it or not) it seemed that I immediately turned over exactly what the next person wanted at a price they could pay exact change for. Settlers gets my vote because it's at least an average game.

Match 55
Power Grid
Pandemic

I am not a fan of co-operative games. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one, but I'll always turn them down if there's something else available (and sometimes I'll sit out even when there's not another game I can join). It's made worse by the fact that Pandemic, Forbidden Island and Flash Point are all essentially the same game, meaning that the co-op fans ask me to join them 3 times as often. Yes, it's the "one person plays and everyone else does what they're told" thing. Even when the "leader" is me I don't enjoy it, because I feel that I'm playing a solo game and ruining the fun for the others. I figured the time pressure co-ops would solve this issue so I gave the two I mentioned earlier a go, but as I said before, they have their own issues and at this point I'm pretty sure there's no co-op that I'd enjoy. Power grid isn't my favourite game, but it's solid and well designed. The club I play at also owns a bajillion maps for the game so it's not going to get samey too quickly either.

Match 56
Terra Mystica
Agricola

Agricola is such a good game. I mentioned my love for Worker Placement earlier and I'm not sure if there's a game that does it better than Agricola. 've never played Terra Mystica. I voted for Terra Mystica. What's going on here? Basically, I've watched pretty much every Terra Mystica video I can find and read the rules and it looks like it could be my third 10. Haven't watched the PBFs here because I just can't get my head around the spreadsheets. I need to see the actual boards. I'm just waiting for someone at my club to pick up a copy then I'll be playing this on a weekly basis for at least a month or two. I'm all about mechanics and I just love some of the mechanics in this game. I love the way unbuilt buildings cover up potential income on your player board and you have to build them to uncover and receive it (yeah, I know this is functionally equivalent to "each X you have built produces Y each turn", but the uncoverings this is just so much cooler). And then there's the power bowls. Whoever came up with that is a genius. And I haven't even started on the variety in this game...
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #296 on: March 07, 2013, 04:10:16 am »
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> Haven't watched the PBFs here because I just can't get my head around the spreadsheets.

There's an interface they use over there in BGG PBF which looks more like a board. The spreadsheet board of square hexes designed by Watno works surprisingly well for me though.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #297 on: March 07, 2013, 09:08:14 am »
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7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Race for the Galaxy
Galaxy Trucker
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
Power Grid
Terra Mystica

@TINAS: I assume you're refering to the player boards regarding PBF? The map came out quite good I think.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #298 on: March 07, 2013, 09:22:49 am »
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Yeah, mostly. I do prefer a hex map made out of hexes rather than squares though.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #299 on: March 07, 2013, 11:12:48 am »
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Finally! A round where I can vote in each and every match. I feel like my whole life has been building up to this. Well, maybe the past couple of weeks.


7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Dungeon Lords
Race for the Galaxy
Galaxy Trucker
Alhambra
Power Grid
Terra Mystica

I find it interesting that three of Chvatil's games are in this round. And I voted for all three of them. I'm such a fanboy.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #300 on: March 07, 2013, 01:42:21 pm »
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7 Wonders
Puerto Rico
Dungeon Lords
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
Power Grid
Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #301 on: March 07, 2013, 04:00:32 pm »
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Mafia
Puerto Rico
Pass
Race for the Galaxy
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Alhambra
Power Grid
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #302 on: March 07, 2013, 04:03:19 pm »
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7 Wonders
Pass
Pass
RFTG
Kingdom Builder
Alhambra
Pass
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #303 on: March 07, 2013, 04:03:51 pm »
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This one pitted PG vs. Pandemic, and TTA vs. Puerto Rico.  I can't pick one over the other in either case.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #304 on: March 12, 2013, 03:43:03 pm »
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One more day for round 3...
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Round 4, Matches 57-60 + Bonus 1-4
« Reply #305 on: March 13, 2013, 03:25:13 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 49: 7 Wonders 12-5 Mafia/Werewolf
Match 50: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization 8-5 Puerto Rico
Match 51: Stone Age 4-2 Dungeon Lords
Match 52: Race for the Galaxy 8-7 Hearts
Match 53: Kingdom Builder 6-3 Galaxy Trucker
Match 54: The Settlers of Catan 8-6 Alhambra
Match 55: Power Grid 8-5 Pandemic
Match 56: Agricola 7-4 Terra Mystica

Round 4

Match 57
7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

Match 58
Stone Age
Race for the Galaxy

Match 59
Kingdom Builder
The Settlers of Catan

Match 60
Power Grid
Agricola

Bonus Match 1
The Resistance
Navegador
Pictionary
Poker

Bonus Match 2
Innovation
The Speicherstadt
Ascension
Village

Bonus Match 3
Time's Up
The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game
Empire Builder
Memoir '44

Bonus Match 4
Bridge
Cyclades
Ghost Stories
Big Two
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Round 4, Matches 57-60 + Bonus 1-4
« Reply #306 on: March 13, 2013, 03:25:28 pm »
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Key: Game - Nominations | Average Position | Nominators (bold = top choice); Listed lower on list

7 Wonders - 8 | 2.00 | Tables, Thisisnotasmile, Davio, flies, RichardNixon, Forge!!!, soulnet, eHalcyon, Insomniac; mith, D Bo
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization - 3 | 1.98 | mith, Tables, ipofanes; Qvist

Stone Age - 4 | 2.41 | Thisisnotasmile, Davio, Ozle, Rabid; RichardNixon
Race for the Galaxy - 4 | 2.05 | mith, Lekkit, Rabid, Insomniac; theory

Kingdom Builder - 2 | 2.42 | Rabid, Insomniac; Lekkit
The Settlers of Catan - 4 | 2.54 | Davio, Ozle, flies, eHalcyon; Qvist

Power Grid - 1 | 1.00 | hasaile; Tables, Lekkit, ipofanes
Agricola - 5 | 1.75 | mith, hsaile, michaeljb, Rabid, Insomniac; Davio


No big surprises here; 6 of our top 8 seeds have survived to the quarterfinals, along with Dominion's little brother Kingdom Builder and 4-time Aldie Award Winner Power Grid. No game has fewer than 3 lists supporting it. Civilization Division and Gateway Division both give us a name-worthy finals, while the other matchups are pre-historic vs. futuristic and another BGG top 10 battle.

The bonus matches for this round are the 16 games which were next on someone's list - there were no overlaps (though some did appear later on others' lists), but some lists were exhausted for the main bracket.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #307 on: March 13, 2013, 03:26:21 pm »
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Note: Because the bonus matches include four games, please don't feel like you have to have played all four to vote!
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #308 on: March 13, 2013, 03:27:41 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Agricola
Navegador
Innovation
Time's Up
Ghost Stories
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #309 on: March 13, 2013, 03:27:53 pm »
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pass
pass
kingdom builder
pass

Bonus matches:

poker
village
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Round 3, Matches 49-56)
« Reply #310 on: March 13, 2013, 03:30:39 pm »
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7 Wonders
Stone Age
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid

Poker
Village
Empire Builder
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Re: Round 4, Matches 57-60 + Bonus 1-4
« Reply #311 on: March 13, 2013, 03:30:56 pm »
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Tough choices

Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Race for the Galaxy
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid

The Resistance
The Speicherstadt
Memoir '44
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #312 on: March 13, 2013, 03:35:59 pm »
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7 Wonders
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Pass

Bonus Match 1
Navegador


Bonus Match 2
Innovation


Bonus Match 3
Empire Builder


Bonus Match 4
Ghost Stories
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #313 on: March 13, 2013, 03:45:01 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #314 on: March 13, 2013, 03:53:01 pm »
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Hearts was so close!





7 Wonders
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Settlers of Catan
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Poker
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #315 on: March 13, 2013, 04:09:46 pm »
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7 Wonders
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Agricola

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Village
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #316 on: March 13, 2013, 04:12:30 pm »
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7 Wonders
Race for the Galaxy
The Settlers of Catan
Power Grid

Pictionary
pass
pass
pass

I don't know most other games in the rest of the bonus matches and I don't have time or incentive to look them up and learn them all.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #317 on: March 13, 2013, 04:14:21 pm »
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Stats for this round and the previous are now up.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #318 on: March 13, 2013, 04:23:28 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Pass
Kingdom Builder
Power Grid
Poker
Innovation
Pass
Big Two

Most of the things I voted for in the last round lost. :( Here's hoping for Power Grid!

Also who nominated Big Two and where are they from? I didn't even know this card game was a thing outside of Vancouver.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #319 on: March 13, 2013, 04:30:08 pm »
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eHalcyon. (It's all in the spreadsheet; click "Bracket" in the OP.)
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #320 on: March 13, 2013, 04:35:47 pm »
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Thanks mith! eHalc's Canadian I think so I guess Big Two has traveled across the country at least. Or maybe we learned it from their end of the country.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #321 on: March 13, 2013, 04:42:21 pm »
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I am Canadian, yeah.  It comes from China!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Two
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #322 on: March 13, 2013, 04:54:27 pm »
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Thanks mith! eHalc's Canadian I think so I guess Big Two has traveled across the country at least. Or maybe we learned it from their end of the country.

I am in Alberta, so not quite across the country, though I expect that Big Two will be found there as well.  I also know of two primary variations, which we call "Chinese style" and "Vietnamese style".  I'm reading the Big Two article now; I think what we call "Vietnamese style Big Two" is actually Tien Len.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #323 on: March 13, 2013, 05:56:56 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Pass
Power Grid

The Resistance
Village
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Cyclades
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« Reply #324 on: March 13, 2013, 06:02:36 pm »
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Match 57
7 Wonders
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization

Extremely tough choice. Both are very fun games, two of my favourites. TtA wins it out I think by being my current addiction.

Match 58
Stone Age
Race for the Galaxy

I still dislike RtfG. Yup, hate voting.

Match 59
Kingdom Builder
The Settlers of Catan

I'm not a Settlers fan, but it's tolerable. Kingdom Builder looks interesting but I haven't played it. Not informed enough to vote.

Match 60
Power Grid
Agricola

Another tough choice. Agricola has really grown on me recently, while Power Grid is a longstanding favourite.

Bonus Match 1
The Resistance
Navegador
Pictionary
Poker

Don't know Navegador, so that's out. Pictionary is a light party game, okay, whatever. Poker isn't my thing, at all. Resistance is my favourite social deduction game, because it gives players information, and more as the game goes on, in a smooth way, and also has the slightly reversed objective of not finding scum, but finding allies.

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Innovation
The Speicherstadt
Ascension
Village

Ascension I've played twice, it's pretty meh. The Speicherstadt I've never heard of. Innovation is a pretty fun game, moreso with fewer players, but Village is really fun.

Bonus Match 3
Time's Up
The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game
Empire Builder
Memoir '44

I don't really know any of these.

Bonus Match 4
Bridge
Cyclades
Ghost Stories
Big Two

Bridge doesn't interest me much. Cyclades is a fun game, I really want to give it another go because I've only played it once so far. Ghost Stories is alright, but nothing more. Big Two I don't know.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #325 on: March 13, 2013, 06:12:42 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Kingdom Builder
Agricola
The Resistance
Village
Time's Up
Ghost Stories

All the great games are out :(
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #326 on: March 13, 2013, 07:54:28 pm »
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7 Wonders
Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Agricola
Poker
Innovation
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #327 on: March 13, 2013, 08:47:57 pm »
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TTA
Stone Age
Pass
Power Grid

(Pass on all bonuses)
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« Reply #328 on: March 14, 2013, 05:12:07 am »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Stone Age
Kingdom Builder
Agricola
The Resistance
Innovation
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #329 on: March 14, 2013, 06:53:50 am »
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All the great games are out :(

As long as there's Through the Ages one can hope.

And I didn't seriously hope for Go to survive the first stages.
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« Reply #330 on: March 14, 2013, 07:19:48 am »
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7 Wonders
Race For The Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Agricola

Haven't played many of the bonus games so I won't bother voting.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #331 on: March 14, 2013, 08:19:56 am »
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 Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
 Stone Age
 Kingdom Builder
 Power Grid


I guess the bonus games will be more in the category of, "I've played this one and didn't think it sucked."

Pictionary
Ascension
Pass
Ghost Stories


Although, I do love Ghost Stories and am happy to vote for this one.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #332 on: March 14, 2013, 02:09:53 pm »
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7 Wonders
Race for the Galaxy
The Settlers of Catan
Agricola

Poker
pass
pass
pass

-I haven't played Through the Ages, and I really liked 7 Wonders the one time I played it.
-Same for RftG over Stone Age :P (I do actually have a copy of RftG, but the wife didn't like it and I haven't found anyonce else to play it with)
-I own and have read the rules for Kingdom Builder, but haven't had a chance to play it yet. I do like Catan, but I imagine I'll like KB more once I play it :P
- Once again, haven't played Power Grid. Regardless, Agricola is one of my top 3 games.

- I really like Poker, really don't like Pictionary, and haven't played the other two.
- have not played any of the other Bonus Match games
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #333 on: March 18, 2013, 05:48:28 pm »
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Going to move on to the next round tomorrow if there aren't any further votes...
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Round 5, Matches 61-62 + Bonus 5-7
« Reply #334 on: March 19, 2013, 06:44:56 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 57: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization 10-8 7 Wonders
Match 58: Race for the Galaxy 8-6 Stone Age
Match 59: Kingdom Builder 10-6 The Settlers of Catan
Match 60: Power Grid 8-7 Agricola

Bonus Match 1: Poker (7), The Resistance (4), Navegador (2), Pictionary (2)
Bonus Match 2: Innovation (6), Village (6), The Speicherstadt (1), Ascension (1)
Bonus Match 3: Time's Up (2), Empire Builder (2), Memoir '44 (1), The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game (0)
Bonus Match 4: Ghost Stories (4), Big Two (2), Cyclades (1), Bridge (0)

Round 5:

Match 61
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Race for the Galaxy

Match 62
Kingdom Builder
Power Grid

Bonus Match 5
Ghost Stories
Innovation
Poker
The Resistance
Village

Bonus Match 6
Eclipse
Android: Netrunner
Le Havre
Caylus

Bonus Match 7
7 Wonders
Hearts
Citadels
Agricola
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Round 5, Matches 61-62 + Bonus 5-7
« Reply #335 on: March 19, 2013, 06:45:12 pm »
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Quarterfinals! + Bonus 1-4)
« Reply #336 on: March 19, 2013, 06:45:54 pm »
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Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Ghost Stories
Le Havre
Agricola
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Pass
Pass

Bonus matches
Poker
Pass
Agricola
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« Reply #338 on: March 19, 2013, 06:57:07 pm »
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Through the Ages
Power Grid

Resistance
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7 Wonders
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« Reply #339 on: March 19, 2013, 06:59:45 pm »
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Match 61
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Race for the Galaxy

Race for the Galaxy is still boring to me. TtA is really fun.

Match 62
Kingdom Builder
Power Grid

Never played Kingdom Builder, but Power Grid is good enough I'll vote for it here.

Bonus Match 5
Ghost Stories
Innovation
Poker
The Resistance
Village

Resistance is a lot of fun, still. Poker and Ghost Stories don't interest me, Innovation is growing on me but isn't that great, and Village is good, but Resistance is generally more fun, with the right group. It's basically Mafia, but fixed.

Bonus Match 6
Eclipse
Android: Netrunner
Le Havre
Caylus

I've played Netrunner and thought it was good, but not that great. Eclipse isn't my kind of game. I haven't played Caylus or Le Havre.

Bonus Match 7
7 Wonders
Hearts
Citadels
Agricola

7 Wonders for the win!
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Re: Round 5, Matches 61-62 + Bonus 5-7
« Reply #340 on: March 19, 2013, 07:02:09 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Pass

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #341 on: March 19, 2013, 07:08:49 pm »
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Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Village
Caylus
Agricola
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« Reply #342 on: March 19, 2013, 07:28:20 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Power Grid
Ghost Stories
Eclipse
Agricola

Easy matchuos this time.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #343 on: March 19, 2013, 09:24:29 pm »
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Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Innovation
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #344 on: March 19, 2013, 09:28:11 pm »
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Through the Ages
Power Grid

Pass bonuses
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #345 on: March 20, 2013, 02:26:29 am »
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Welp all my horses are out of the race.

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« Reply #346 on: March 20, 2013, 12:22:10 pm »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Kingdom Builder
Innovation
Caylus
7 Wonders




Match 61
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Race for the Galaxy

Both great games, but as I said before. TTA is my 11.

Match 62
Kingdom Builder
Power Grid

Again, both excellent games. I've not played Power Grid maybe as much as I should have done owing to its bland look and theme. Kingdom Builder gets it here.

Bonus Match 5
Ghost Stories
Innovation
Poker
The Resistance
Village

Village was good when I played it, but I'm not ruching to play it again. Ghost stories is a co-op. Poker is fine, but not really a "game" like the others, so I don't think it really fits in this tournament. Innovation and The Resistance are two of my favourites. Innovation took it here due to my recent splurge (thanks, Isotropic), and due to The Resistance taking the backseat to Panic Station for a while at my club.

Bonus Match 6
Eclipse
Android: Netrunner
Le Havre
Caylus

Never played Eclipse or Android. The themes don't interest me but I'm sure they are good games. Le Harve and Caylus are both great games, but I don't play them often because usually Agricola (or Tzolk'in) scratches that particular itch. Caylus gets it though.

Bonus Match 7
7 Wonders
Hearts
Citadels
Agricola

Err... I had to go back and check my nominations list here becuase this looks like the list I submitted. They're all on my nominations except Agricola, and I assume that's because I figured other people would make that particular nomination. I want to pick them all but... 7 Wonders takes it simply because it was higher on my nominations list way back when this all started.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #347 on: March 20, 2013, 01:16:18 pm »
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Race for the Galaxy
Power Grid
Poker
Caylus
Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #348 on: March 20, 2013, 03:28:57 pm »
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« Reply #349 on: March 20, 2013, 04:36:07 pm »
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #350 on: March 20, 2013, 07:09:11 pm »
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7 Wonders and Agricola knocked out? I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder
Innovation
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #351 on: March 20, 2013, 08:50:11 pm »
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Race for the Galaxy
Kingdom Builder

Poker
pass
Agricola

Once again, I can only vote for the games I have actually played...except for Bonus Match 7. Hearts and 7 Wonders are both great, but Agricola is one of my favorites.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #352 on: March 20, 2013, 09:05:56 pm »
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Race for the Galaxy
Power Grid

Whatever happens now, its already incredibly sad that every game I love is out before the semifinals.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #353 on: March 21, 2013, 08:50:11 am »
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Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Power Grid



Again, I'm voting on bonus matches without having played all the games, but that is allowed.

Bonus Match 5
Ghost Stories

Bonus Match 6
Le Havre

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #354 on: March 21, 2013, 05:12:57 pm »
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Through the Ages
Power Grid
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #355 on: March 21, 2013, 07:51:26 pm »
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I don't get how Kingdom Builder got so far. I mean it's not a bad game, but it's not really good either. Obviously it has to do with people here being Donald X fanboys, but of the Donald X games I have played (Dominion, Kingdom Builder, Gauntlet of Fools and Nefarious), it's easily the worst.
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« Reply #356 on: March 22, 2013, 01:49:53 pm »
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I don't get how Kingdom Builder got so far. I mean it's not a bad game, but it's not really good either. Obviously it has to do with people here being Donald X fanboys, but of the Donald X games I have played (Dominion, Kingdom Builder, Gauntlet of Fools and Nefarious), it's easily the worst.

Strongly Disagree. Kingdom Builder is an amazing game and won the SDJ.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #357 on: March 22, 2013, 02:19:24 pm »
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So did Auf Achse and Heimlich & Co.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #358 on: March 22, 2013, 02:32:32 pm »
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It's a good game for SDJ audience, and I can play it with my family. but I wouldn't ever suggest it in my gaming group or call it a favourite.
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« Reply #359 on: March 22, 2013, 08:51:24 pm »
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So did Auf Achse and Heimlich & Co.

So did Dominion.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #360 on: March 22, 2013, 10:06:57 pm »
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So did Dominion.

That really adds nothing. You used for all x SDJ(x) => GoodGame(x), and as I understand Watno provided an example contradicting that. The fact that you know of a particular game x such that SDJ(x) => GoodGame(x) provides no evidence to support that for some other game y SDJ(y) => GoodGame(y).

Yes, I am sad that all my favorite games are out of contest, so I am rambling about other things.
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« Reply #361 on: March 24, 2013, 03:06:56 am »
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So did Dominion.

That really adds nothing. You used for all x SDJ(x) => GoodGame(x), and as I understand Watno provided an example contradicting that. The fact that you know of a particular game x such that SDJ(x) => GoodGame(x) provides no evidence to support that for some other game y SDJ(y) => GoodGame(y).

Yes, I am sad that all my favorite games are out of contest, so I am rambling about other things.

I have not played either of the games given as contradictions, nor did I intend my claim to mean that winning an SDJ makes a game good. I claimed that I liked Kingdom Builder and it won an SDJ (and has made it thus far in the tourney) thusly I must assume that I am not the only one that believes Kingdom Builder is a good game. I was simply referencing an award that it won from an outside source that is not clearly DxV fanboys.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #362 on: March 24, 2013, 09:29:25 am »
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I have not played either of the games given as contradictions, nor did I intend my claim to mean that winning an SDJ makes a game good. I claimed that I liked Kingdom Builder and it won an SDJ (and has made it thus far in the tourney) thusly I must assume that I am not the only one that believes Kingdom Builder is a good game. I was simply referencing an award that it won from an outside source that is not clearly DxV fanboys.

The apparent fallacy I pointed out was not in this original argument, which BTW I think its reasonable, but in the "so did Dominion" remark, which did not reinforce the argument nor provide any new arguments regarding Kingdom Builder or the "fanboys" issue or anything related. Thus, the "add nothing" at the beginning of my message.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #363 on: March 24, 2013, 08:48:30 pm »
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The fact that you know of a particular game x such that SDJ(x) => GoodGame(x) provides no evidence to support that for some other game y SDJ(y) => GoodGame(y).

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #364 on: March 25, 2013, 05:14:10 am »
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Through the Ages
Power Grid

Poker
Eclipse
Agricola
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #365 on: March 25, 2013, 06:47:37 am »
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I have not played either of the games given as contradictions, nor did I intend my claim to mean that winning an SDJ makes a game good. I claimed that I liked Kingdom Builder and it won an SDJ (and has made it thus far in the tourney) thusly I must assume that I am not the only one that believes Kingdom Builder is a good game. I was simply referencing an award that it won from an outside source that is not clearly DxV fanboys.

The apparent fallacy I pointed out was not in this original argument, which BTW I think its reasonable, but in the "so did Dominion" remark, which did not reinforce the argument nor provide any new arguments regarding Kingdom Builder or the "fanboys" issue or anything related. Thus, the "add nothing" at the beginning of my message.

Surely though if the original example listed bad games that won the SDJ, listing a counter argument of other good games helps raise the accuracy of the SDJ back up a little when determinign ifit can make good games.

and with no other outside source, if you are ranking games you have neaver heard ofor played, then one that has Won the SDJ will have a better chance of being good than one that hasn't? (Note: Chance, not 'will be')
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #366 on: March 25, 2013, 09:35:50 am »
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Surely though if the original example listed bad games that won the SDJ, listing a counter argument of other good games helps raise the accuracy of the SDJ back up a little when determinign ifit can make good games.

and with no other outside source, if you are ranking games you have neaver heard ofor played, then one that has Won the SDJ will have a better chance of being good than one that hasn't? (Note: Chance, not 'will be')

I hardly think citing one example of a good game that won the SDJ right after an example of a bad game is really bad strategy if you are planning on some using statistical arguments. Maybe if instead of 1 he had cited a list of 10 or 20 examples, then the statistical significance of the post would have been clear.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Semifinals! + Bonus 5-7)
« Reply #367 on: March 25, 2013, 05:19:31 pm »
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Round 6, Match 63
« Reply #368 on: March 26, 2013, 05:32:42 pm »
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Previous Results:

Match 61: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization 8-7 Race for the Galaxy
Match 62: Power Grid 10-6 Kingdom Builder
Bonus Match 5: Poker (5), Ghost Stories (3), Innovation (3), The Resistance (1), Village (1)
Bonus Match 6: Caylus (3), Eclipse (2), Le Havre (2), Android: Netrunner (0)
Bonus Match 7: Agricola (7), 7 Wonders (5), Hearts (1), Citadels (1)

(Bonus 5 were the games receiving the most votes on Bonus 1-4, which were the next games on each of the 16 nomination lists. Bonus 6 were the top four by BGG rating which weren't in this tournament. Bonus 7 were the closest losers to the four semi-finalists.)

Match 63
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Power Grid

Third Place Match
Race for the Galaxy
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How about

Unofficial Bonus Match: Hearts vs. Spades... vs. Bridge?
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Through the Ages
Kingdom Builder

No more bonuses? :(

TTA is an easy decision. KB vs RFTG was tough, but I'm more inclined to play a game of KB when suggested so that's my vote.
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Tough one, but Through the Ages gets the nod.
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Oh man! This is so freakin' tough!

Both matches, actually, are killing me.

Okay, going to go with:

Through the Ages
Kingdom Builder

Excellent finalists. That's rough as hell.
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Kingdom Builder
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But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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I think I unleashed something good on this community by introducting TtA to it. And I'm happy to see RftG get knocked out, although this has made me think maybe I'll give it another try sometime.
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Have to go with one that I still pull out after ten years.
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Have to go with one that I still pull out after ten years.

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Through the Ages!)
« Reply #388 on: April 03, 2013, 03:15:28 pm »
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Final Results:

Match 63: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization 7-6 Power Grid
Match 64: Race for the Galaxy 7-3 Kingdom Builder

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Through the Ages!)
« Reply #389 on: April 03, 2013, 04:12:32 pm »
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I wasn't going to complain about the winner no matter which one it was. Very fine games.
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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Through the Ages!)
« Reply #390 on: April 04, 2013, 09:24:44 am »
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Through the Ages, sounds good to me.

I think I'm probably mostly to blame for this one, introducing it to the community and getting lots of new people interested in it...
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...spin-offs are still better for all of the previously cited reasons.
But not strictly better, because the spinoff can have a different cost than the expansion.

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Re: Favorite non-Dominon Game Tournament (Through the Ages!)
« Reply #391 on: April 04, 2013, 09:28:46 am »
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I think I'm probably mostly to blame for this one, introducing it to the community and getting lots of new people interested in it...

Oh yes, and we're all so obviously cross with you.

Well, maybe the people who voted for Power Grid, but it really is difficult to say which of those two games I prefer.
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« Reply #392 on: April 04, 2013, 09:29:52 am »
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Although, I was introduced to the game before it was brought here. I just never played beyond Age I, so you did a great job of showing me the full game, which is really hard to convince new players to try IRL.
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