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[LastFootnote]

I think I am putting too much faith in the random pugs I was playing in 3v3 Singles back in PBR on the Wii. If the official 3v3 singles metagame really is more centralized than Smogon's OU, that sucks. I saw plenty of variety online back in 4th gen, but maybe that's changed. Either way, this sort of crap is why I switched from Pokémon to Dominion: Pokémon promises variety, but Dominion actually delivers on that promise.

I found back in 4th gen (and I imagine this is still true) that there's way more variety in Doubles than in Singles. Mostly this is due to how many more niche strategies become viable. You can use a Seaking in Singles, but it's horribly outclassed. In Doubles, a Water-type with Lightning Rod may be exactly what your team needs. My best team in 4th-gen was Arcanine, Aerodactyl, Cherrim, Exeggutor, Hariyama, and Torkoal. Good times.

[eHalcyon]

Wooo, got my Numel.  So my team is now:

Banyan the Grovyle (Naive, somewhat vain, ♀)
Metang (Lonely, somewhat vain)
Paws the Linoone (Bold, highly curious, ♀ -- pickup and HM specialist)
Pumpernickel the Vigoroth (Brave, likes to thrash about, ♂)
Pompeii the Numel (Quiet, takes plenty of siestas, ♀)

Sixth spot is currently just random pokemon to level up (currently a zubat).  I'm sure I'll start having more than 6 on regular roster soon though.  I intend to include Altaria and Flygon in rotation as soon as I can.

[XerxesPraelor]

So based on this conversation, I'm making the three fights in my Pokemon card game be 3v3 singles, 4v4 doubles, and 6v6 singles. I hoping that's diverse enough (triples are complicated)

[eHalcyon]

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[eHalcyon]

Wooo, got my Numel.  So my team is now:

Banyan the Grovyle (Naive, somewhat vain, ♀)
Metang (Lonely, somewhat vain)
Paws the Linoone (Bold, highly curious, ♀ -- pickup and HM specialist)
Pumpernickel the Vigoroth (Brave, likes to thrash about, ♂)
Pompeii the Numel (Quiet, takes plenty of siestas, ♀)

Sixth spot is currently just random pokemon to level up (currently a zubat).  I'm sure I'll start having more than 6 on regular roster soon though.  I intend to include Altaria and Flygon in rotation as soon as I can.

The team now includes:

Vertigo the Vibrava (Naughty, likes to thash about, ♀)
Nimbus the Altaria (Rash, takes plenty of siestas, ♀)

Both were 3 star captures with the DexNav.  Spent more time than I should have looking for them.  DexNav outside of grass is horrible.  Why can't they just stay still?  My search level for Swablu is higher though, because I spent some time pumping it up with horde encounters.  It's currently level 176.

Banyan and Pompeii have evolved.  Pumpernickel is holding onto an Everstone for now.  Paws is now full up on HMs, including Surf.  Not sure if I'm going to add an actual water type to my team.  Recently got the fifth badge and I've just been retracing all my steps looking for Surf spots before I move on to the next leg.

[LastFootnote]

Not sure if I'm going to add an actual water type to my team.

Remember, this is Hoenn. You need Dive AND Waterfall.

[eHalcyon]

Not sure if I'm going to add an actual water type to my team.

Remember, this is Hoenn. You need Dive AND Waterfall.

Well, to my main battling team.  I'll have a water type HM slave for sure.

[eHalcyon]

Final addition to the team:

Lumos the Lanturn (Hasty, alert to sounds, ♂)

Another 3 star capture.  IIRC, it had low attack, mediocre defense, good special attack (20+) and perfect IVs for the other three.  I really like Lanturn, probably because Water/Electric is such a cool typing.  It also amuses me that Game Freak took inspiration from anglerfishes to make such a cute and cheery design when it would have been so much easier to go the monstrous route.

Metang and Vertigo have evolved.  I decided to teach Fly to Nimbus for the sake of convenience, and Lumos has both Surf and Dive for the same reason.  For a while, I was using a Sharpedo to travel; the speed sure was nice.

I've got my seventh badge now.  Next stop is the Seafloor Cavern, but I'm going on a bunch of detours before then.  I think I've hit most of the dive spots now.  The routes with the one-way swift currents are really annoying.  There is at least one little island with a hidden item that I can't figure out how to get to (there is only a single one-space-wide path to it, because it's otherwise surrounded by currents that push away from it).  I'm probably going to give up on it for a while, maybe forever.  Looking at Bulbapedia, I've already gotten the most important items (two TMs).

I'm wondering what the Seafloor Cavern was like before Team Magma got there.  When possible, I like exploring areas before they are significant, mainly to see what kind of meaningless obstacle is there to prevent me from moving forward.  But when I visited the Seafloor Cavern area earlier, I didn't realize I thought surfacing in the center would just put me in the middle of the ring of land seen on the surface, so I didn't bother.  I didn't realize there was a cavern inside... in retrospect, that was really stupid.

Edit: actually, now that I'm checking the actual location again, I think I might have been here before, and there was just an NPC blocking the entrance.

[eHalcyon]

Edit: actually, now that I'm checking the actual location again, I think I might have been here before, and there was just an NPC blocking the entrance.

I was wrong.  The blocked entrance I had visited was the entrance to Sky Pillar.  Just found it again while doing some more exploring post-Rain Badge.

[eHalcyon]

Necro wars!

What do you guys think of the Sun/Moon reveals so far?

It appears that this would be a valid strategy against the Sun legendary:

[Tables]

Yeah my first through upon seeing the Sun Legendary's typing was basically "That's the same as Bronzong. It's only weaknesses are Fire and Ground. So the Sun Legendary is only weak to heat and the Earth. Cool."

[LastFootnote]

Yeah my first through upon seeing the Sun Legendary's typing was basically "That's the same as Bronzong. It's only weaknesses are Fire and Ground. So the Sun Legendary is only weak to heat and the Earth. Cool."

That's outdated info, luckily. It's also weak to Ghost and Dark, thanks to Steel losing those resistances.

[Tables]

Oh, yeah. Gen 6 type changes.

[Seprix]

I used to play Pokemon Online all the time.

[eHalcyon]

I'm still not sure of the reasoning behind the Steel-typing, but Psychic for both legendaries is cool.  It's consistent with all the other Pokemon from space.

[LastFootnote]

A few new Pokémon revealed at E3 today: the obligatory Route 1 bird, rodent, and bug Pokémon.

The rodent (Yungoos, a mongoose-type thing) has a neat new ability, Stakeout. Apparently it lets you deal double damage to a Pokémon switching in.

[Seprix]

There was that Pokemon who cannot be affected by any status condition except sleep, which seems cool. Too bad it looks like a Bibarel type, as in completely sucky competitive-wise.

I kind of wish they'd scrap the route 1 bird thing. I want something different than Normal/Flying types when I first play.

[LastFootnote]

There was that Pokemon who cannot be affected by any status condition except sleep, which seems cool. Too bad it looks like a Bibarel type, as in completely sucky competitive-wise.

Well you never know. I'm guessing that's not its final form.

I kind of wish they'd scrap the route 1 bird thing. I want something different than Normal/Flying types when I first play.

At least this one can have Skill Link, which is kinda cool. Fury Attack with 5 hits guaranteed!

[eHalcyon]

I kind of wish they'd scrap the route 1 bird thing. I want something different than Normal/Flying types when I first play.

At least this one can have Skill Link, which is kinda cool. Fury Attack with 5 hits guaranteed!

And we don't know what type its final form will be! Talonflame was Fire/Flying, this might be something different too.

FWIW, dex data mentions shooting seeds so it probably learns Bullet Seed too. Maybe it'll be Grass/Flying.  Might be unlikely with Rowlet, but not impossible, and there was a rumour that Rowlet's final form wouldn't be a Flying type.

[LastFootnote]

I kind of wish they'd scrap the route 1 bird thing. I want something different than Normal/Flying types when I first play.

At least this one can have Skill Link, which is kinda cool. Fury Attack with 5 hits guaranteed!

Pikipek's flavor text also strongly implies it can learn Bullet Seed, so assuming its final evolution retains Skill Link (I certainly hope so), it should have at least one thing to set it apart from other Route-1 birds (namely a 125-BP, physical Grass attack).

[Seprix]

Reminds me of the Mega-Herracross (Skill Link) with Arm Thrust, Pin Needle, and Bullet Seed I ran. What I would do is have a Speed Boost Jolteon Baton Pass to the Heracross, and it would sweep teams, and since Skill Link, it busted through Pokemon with the focus sash. It was quite cruel.

[LastFootnote]

Reminds me of the Mega-Herracross (Skill Link) with Arm Thrust, Pin Needle, and Bullet Seed I ran. What I would do is have a Speed Boost Jolteon Baton Pass to the Heracross, and it would sweep teams, and since Skill Link, it busted through Pokemon with the focus sash. It was quite cruel.

I'd be torn between Arm Thrust and Close Combat there. I mean yes Arm Thrust can break Sturdy and Focus Sash, but Close Combat just packs so much more power, especially on a sweeper like that. Did you ever wish you'd gone the other route? Or did you have both, instead of Rock Blast?

[Seprix]

Reminds me of the Mega-Herracross (Skill Link) with Arm Thrust, Pin Needle, and Bullet Seed I ran. What I would do is have a Speed Boost Jolteon Baton Pass to the Heracross, and it would sweep teams, and since Skill Link, it busted through Pokemon with the focus sash. It was quite cruel.

I'd be torn between Arm Thrust and Close Combat there. I mean yes Arm Thrust can break Sturdy and Focus Sash, but Close Combat just packs so much more power, especially on a sweeper like that. Did you ever wish you'd gone the other route? Or did you have both, instead of Rock Blast?

Oh yeah, I also had Rock Blast. I think I ran Close Combat over Arm Thrust too. I don't remember, it was awhile ago. This was on Pokemon Online, so it wasn't a real Pokemon or anything.

[eHalcyon]

What do you guys think of all the new reveals from today?  I'm really excited for the Alola forms.  Exeggutor is ridiculous, Ninetales is gorgeous, and Sandslash doesn't look too shabby either.  Their new types are interesting too.

Z-moves look totally over the top.  The Rowlet in the trailer is surely dead now.

I really like Minior.  Very curious if its colour is more than aesthetic, and how many different colours are available.

[LastFootnote]

What do you guys think of all the new reveals from today?  I'm really excited for the Alola forms.

Man, I am hyped.

Sandslash finally gets something, even if it has two double weaknesses (to Fire and Fighting). It wasn't the mega evolution I wished for, but I'm optimistic. Although now my favorite Pokémon no longer has my favorite type. I'm not sure how to feel. Here's hoping Snowslash gets a significant stat boost over Sandslash. It really needs it.

Ninetales looks cool. I wonder if it has Snow Warning as its Hidden Ability.

I've just gotta train an Alolan Exeggutor. Leaf Swarm and (presumably) Draco Meteor with Power Swap. Plus it gets Frisk, one of my favorite Abilities for Doubles.

There are rumors (pre-dating today's reveal) about many more Alolan Pokémon. That "leak" got Ninetales' new type wrong (Fire/Fairy instead of Ice/Fairy) and didn't mention Sandslash or Exeggutor, so perhaps it's bogus. But that same leak was spot-on about many other things, so we'll see. I hope it's right about a Bug/Psychic Butterfree.

The Fire-type-using "captain" has a Marowak, so folks are speculating about a Fire-type Marowak, perhaps with a torch-juggling theme.

I am wondering if there will be any new Mega Evolutions at all, or just new Forms. I certainly hope that at least the existing Mega Evolutions are in 7th gen. Possibly you will be limited to one Mega Evolution OR one Z-Move.