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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #900 on: February 19, 2013, 09:51:31 am »

*anticipates hammer soon*
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #901 on: February 19, 2013, 09:55:33 am »

"Psst, guys!  Good news!  The rats aren't going to eat me.

Bad news...they died of dehydration.  I think I'm next!  Hurry and save me!"
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #902 on: February 19, 2013, 09:56:49 am »

Vote Count 3.9:

mcmcsalot (2): raerae, sudgy {L-1}
sudgy (2): mcmcsalot, liopoil {L-1}

Not Voting (1): Kooshie

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Day 3 ends on February 22 at 4:00 p.m. forum time.

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #903 on: February 19, 2013, 01:13:42 pm »

Kooshie! I'm back in town and really want to post about lio before you hammer. Please please wait if you can. Unfortunately, I can't post until around 10 EST tonight.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #904 on: February 19, 2013, 02:42:33 pm »

You know, all these posts are biased...
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #905 on: February 19, 2013, 02:43:19 pm »

You know, all these posts are biased...

And I didn't notice this next page.  It's in response to liopoil's post.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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« Reply #906 on: February 19, 2013, 02:59:18 pm »

Of course it's biased! I want kooshie to think correctly that I'm town and sudgy's scum, so anything I say is solely to try to get that to happen! sudgy raerae and mcmc have very similar biases, so anything any of us say can't be taken at face value.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #907 on: February 19, 2013, 03:10:39 pm »

I was just making a case why I'm town because kooshie asked me to.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #908 on: February 19, 2013, 03:46:26 pm »

I was just making a case why I'm town because kooshie asked me to.

I know, I just thought about it when you were talking about how the post was biased.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #909 on: February 19, 2013, 04:35:45 pm »

hmmm. Well, that one was especially because I was talking about myself.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #910 on: February 19, 2013, 05:19:33 pm »

Liopoil, in your big post you say that at one point you could have hammered sudgy, and didn't.  I'm doing this from my phone, and it's hard to go between pages, so could you post that vote count?
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« Reply #911 on: February 19, 2013, 05:34:22 pm »

(You can push the "all" button to get the whole thing at once)

Vote Count 1.11:

Kooshie (2): liopoil, sudgy
Robz888 (1): raerae
Mail-mi (1): kooshie
sudgy (3): Jimmmmm, mcmcsalot, mail-mi

Not Voting (2): Robz888, EFHW

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 4:30 p.m., forum time, on Monday, February 4.

EFHW was the last to get on my wagon and the first to get off.  This was right after he unvoted.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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« Reply #912 on: February 19, 2013, 05:36:29 pm »

(You can push the "all" button to get the whole thing at once)

Vote Count 1.11:

Kooshie (2): liopoil, sudgy
Robz888 (1): raerae
Mail-mi (1): kooshie
sudgy (3): Jimmmmm, mcmcsalot, mail-mi

Not Voting (2): Robz888, EFHW

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 4:30 p.m., forum time, on Monday, February 4.

EFHW was the last to get on my wagon and the first to get off.  This was right after he unvoted.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #913 on: February 19, 2013, 06:08:26 pm »

Sorry...
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #914 on: February 19, 2013, 09:22:56 pm »

In liopoil's post, he says he could have hammered sudgy, and didn't.  this is true.  Doesn't this make him confirmed town?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #915 on: February 19, 2013, 10:27:56 pm »

I'm sorry, raerae.  I can't wait for you to make your big post.  it probably won't matter anyway, since i think liopoil is confirmed town. i will wait for a bit , but that is it.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #916 on: February 19, 2013, 10:28:11 pm »

In liopoil's post, he says he could have hammered sudgy, and didn't.  this is true.  Doesn't this make him confirmed town?

Still working on my lio thing but wanted to comment on this.  I don't believe it makes him confirmed town.  That was D1 and if I remember correctly, that wagon came up darn fast.  I had loudly opposed it and I think there were others not sold on the idea.  We still hadn't really heard from Robz so more than a few people wanted to wait for him to say something before lynching.  It would have been reckless and suspicious to hammer at that point.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #917 on: February 19, 2013, 10:30:30 pm »

OK, I still don't understand the rush but I'll post what I have done so far.

In post 891, he quotes sudgy being OK with the mail-mi lynch but not actively participating.  He fails to mention that he offered intent to hammer after Kooshie’s mislynch wouldn’t go through.

At this point I am willing to if nobody else has already said that they are going to.

Post 832, he declares sudgy & mcmc to be the most likely scumteam.

I would agree that the sudgy-mcmc is looking like the most likely scumteam from my perspective.

Post 854, the task was to post a case on the lynch target you’re voting for yet lio decided to start his case on sudgy by making a case on me then states:

raerae, a case on you is a case on sudgy. If kooshie thinks that you are likely to be scum she should be more inclined to hammer sudgy. same thing with if she thinks I am town.

He had just identified the scumteam.  If he really believed that, the above post would have been a case on how those two tied together.  What changed in those 22 posts?  Mcmc popped in and said raerae/sudgy is the only team possibility from his perspective which paves the way for lio to push that same argument.


But then, in post 862, he can’t answer the question of who dies tomorrow if lynch sudgy today.  Seems pretty clear that eight posts before that, he had picked out the scumteam. 

not certain by any means. I'm not sure it is even more likely than an mcmc lynch tomorrow. I think mcmc is very scummy.
I know sudgy is scum. However, kooshie doesn't. Kooshie does know that sudgy is definatly more likely scum than raerae, and that mcmc is definatly more likely to be scum then liopoil. This is why we are lynching mcmc or sudgy today.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #918 on: February 19, 2013, 10:33:45 pm »

I don't think it quite makes me confirmed town. I would agree that it a big mark in favor of me bieng town, but I suppose there always is the possibility that I'm scum that was scared of looking bad or something.
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« Reply #919 on: February 19, 2013, 10:37:45 pm »

I never said I was certain about the scumteam. I still think it is slightly more likely to be mcmc-sudgy, because mcmc I think has been slightly more scummy than raerae. that could change though. If we lynch sudgy tommorow I will do full rereads on both of them. there are good reasons to believe either one of them is scum.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #920 on: February 19, 2013, 10:39:28 pm »

I never said I was certain about the scumteam. I still think it is slightly more likely to be mcmc-sudgy, because mcmc I think has been slightly more scummy than raerae. that could change though. If we lynch sudgy tommorow I will do full rereads on both of them. there are good reasons to believe either one of them is scum.

But you said a case on me is a case on sudgy.  If I'm town, or at least more likely to be town than mcmc, your argument makes zero sense.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #921 on: February 19, 2013, 10:43:06 pm »

And Kooshie, I'm not going to keep up my lio case if you're going to vote sudgy today so some indication of what you're going to do would be extra helpful.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #922 on: February 19, 2013, 10:45:38 pm »

I see your point. I do believe you have a slightly less than 50-50 chance of bieng scum. I was more making the point that it is only slightly less, so that making the arguement, "raerae is towny, so mcmc is scumm, so lets lynch him instead of sudgy" isn't very strong. I was listing the arguements one could make about why sudgy is scum. Saying raerae is scummy is one of those potential arguements, while in this case I don't think it is very strong. I should have been more clear.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #923 on: February 19, 2013, 10:51:13 pm »

In liopoil's post, he says he could have hammered sudgy, and didn't.  this is true.  Doesn't this make him confirmed town?

Still working on my lio thing but wanted to comment on this.  I don't believe it makes him confirmed town.  That was D1 and if I remember correctly, that wagon came up darn fast.  I had loudly opposed it and I think there were others not sold on the idea.  We still hadn't really heard from Robz so more than a few people wanted to wait for him to say something before lynching.  It would have been reckless and suspicious to hammer at that point.
    I see.  I'll wait until tomorrow to vote, okay, everyone?  sorry for the holdup.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #924 on: February 19, 2013, 10:56:07 pm »

:( ....you are going to hammer eventually right?
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