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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #850 on: February 13, 2013, 05:14:44 pm »

I will be able to post a lock if I see a hammer. Cheers.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #851 on: February 13, 2013, 08:00:04 pm »

So, is anything gonna happen?  Nothing much has been going on recently, and the suspense is killing me...
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #852 on: February 13, 2013, 08:02:54 pm »

Kooshie, do you have any thoughts you'd like to share/us to comment on? Has everybody said enough or do you want to hear more from anybody?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #853 on: February 13, 2013, 08:04:06 pm »

I'm going to make a big post sometime soon.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #854 on: February 13, 2013, 09:41:06 pm »

Okay, kooshie, here's why you should hammer sudgy:

a) raerae is scummy. IF raerae is scum then sudgy is scum, so raerae being scummy is sudgy being scummy. Here's why raerae is scummy:

-She didn't unvote mcmc earlier today when we were worried about quickhammers
-She had a scumread on robz and pushed it hard all D1 but when an actual wagon formed D2 she backed off. Seems perfect to do as scum, get the lynch through, but not be under suspicion once robz flips town, as scum! raerae would know he would.
-has decent post count but I personally don't strongly remember a lot of the things she's said, unlike others. Not that she's lurking, but has  successfully made her posts stay under-the-radar.

b) sudgy is scummy:

-bounces around and redirects lots. Has deflected to another player every time he is in danger of being lynched. Has changed his vote many times and seemingly keeps changing reads to fit whatever lynch he might be able to push through that isn't himself. Don't let him do it again.
-says "that's just me" a lot
-if sudgy was town, then even if mcmc was scum sudgy is still likely scum. At one point jimmm, efhw, robz, and mcmc were all on the sudgy wagon D1 when it took 5 to lynch. If sudgy was town then I was scum and would have hammered sudgy

c) mcmc is towny. if mcmc is town sudgy is scum.  However, mcmc is not towny at all. Still worth noting that if he's town sudgy is scum.

d) I am towny. If I am town then sudgy is scum. I can show you all the towny things I've done if you want. :P

I feel like I have more to say. I'll add it if I think of it.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #855 on: February 13, 2013, 11:25:40 pm »

My vote on Robz:
I don't know, guys. I'm about ready to seriously look at Robz. He posted here around 2am Friday morning the not for the rest of the day though he was active in other games. He came back today, posted in other threads, ignored this one...again. We're really only 8 pages into the game and shouldn't really be that hard to throw a few thoughts down. I really had high hopes for Robz to guide and give advice this game but he's disappointed so far.  As hard as he fought to get in and stay in, it seems he'd be more invested.

Sorry but Vote: Robz

And me saying I don't believe he's scum.

@raerae -- I agree.  Not sure if it makes him Mafia, but it is disappointing.  Are you suggesting lynching him because he's not participating or because you think that points to him being scummy?  I don't know him, but maybe he's town and finds that boring? (That's not a good reason not to play, of course.)

I'm not convinced he's scum (he just hasn't said enough yet!) so this was more of 'Hey, I know you've been gone but you're back now and you were around but not posting on this day and I'd really like you to say something because you are experienced and the new newbies could benefit from thay and maybe you have better ideas for how to move this along than we do so please get your booty in here and say stuff' kind of vote.  It is documented elsewhere that he prefers playing scum (see Buffy) but he's smart enough to know his meta so I don't think we can rely on that to determine his alignment. Additionally, I think Robz reads scummy to people who haven't played with him (totallly guilty).

I was only ever on Robz for lurking.  He started participating in D2 therefore I had no reason to try to get him to participate. 

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the exercise to state your case on the persons in danger of being lynched? 
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #856 on: February 14, 2013, 02:12:35 am »

I don't remember deflecting D1 to another person...
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #857 on: February 14, 2013, 03:17:58 pm »

Also, liopoil, it's funny how in my earlier post I said the exact opposite of who has been scummy and such...  (other than me)
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #858 on: February 14, 2013, 05:37:15 pm »

raerae, a case on you is a case on sudgy. If kooshie thinks that you are likely to be scum she should be more inclined to hammer sudgy. same thing with if she thinks I am town.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #859 on: February 14, 2013, 06:19:30 pm »

raerae, a case on you is a case on sudgy. If kooshie thinks that you are likely to be scum she should be more inclined to hammer sudgy. same thing with if she thinks I am town.

So why aren't you voting for me?  Seems like you've narrowed the scum team to myself and sudgy.  What makes the sudgy lynch more appealing?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #860 on: February 14, 2013, 06:20:47 pm »

raerae, a case on you is a case on sudgy. If kooshie thinks that you are likely to be scum she should be more inclined to hammer sudgy. same thing with if she thinks I am town.

So why aren't you voting for me?  Seems like you've narrowed the scum team to myself and sudgy.  What makes the sudgy lynch more appealing?

He's said, just in case mcmc/me is true, I'm the "safer" lynch.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #861 on: February 14, 2013, 06:23:32 pm »

raerae, a case on you is a case on sudgy. If kooshie thinks that you are likely to be scum she should be more inclined to hammer sudgy. same thing with if she thinks I am town.

So why aren't you voting for me?  Seems like you've narrowed the scum team to myself and sudgy.  What makes the sudgy lynch more appealing?

He's said, just in case mcmc/me is true, I'm the "safer" lynch.

That doesn't seem like a great reason.  We're at lylo.  I don't want to go for the "safe" lynch.  I want to go for the for sure lynch.  Lio, tell me, if we lynch sudgy today and he flips scum, what's the likelihood you'll lynch me tomorrow?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #862 on: February 14, 2013, 07:25:29 pm »

not certain by any means. I'm not sure it is even more likely than an mcmc lynch tomorrow. I think mcmc is very scummy.

I know sudgy is scum. However, kooshie doesn't. Kooshie does know that sudgy is definatly more likely scum than raerae, and that mcmc is definatly more likely to be scum then liopoil. This is why we are lynching mcmc or sudgy today.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #863 on: February 14, 2013, 07:28:07 pm »

not certain by any means. I'm not sure it is even more likely than an mcmc lynch tomorrow. I think mcmc is very scummy.

I know sudgy is scum. However, kooshie doesn't. Kooshie does know that sudgy is definatly more likely scum than raerae, and that mcmc is definatly more likely to be scum then liopoil. This is why we are lynching mcmc or sudgy today.

Ok, so play along.  We lynch sudgy today and he flips scum.  Who do you lynch tomorrow.  Mcmc or me?  Why?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #864 on: February 14, 2013, 07:31:47 pm »

I just said I was undecided... It also might depend on what happens at night.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #865 on: February 14, 2013, 07:40:15 pm »

Sudgy, we lynch mcmc, he flips scum, who do you kill tomorrow?  Me or lio?  Why?  (Sorry Kooshie, just assuming you'll die tonight since no case can be made against you.)
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #866 on: February 14, 2013, 08:18:28 pm »

well, if sudy flips scum I am also IC, and if mcmc flips scum raerae is IC. so scum would have a choice between the two of them.

raerae: we lynch mcmc, he flips scum, who do you kill tomorrow, me or sudgy?

raerae, sudgy would kill me because you cannot be mcmc's partner, only sudgy's partner. If you were mcmc's partner you would just hammer sudgy and win.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #867 on: February 14, 2013, 09:22:52 pm »

Kooshie, I think you can go ahead and hammer someone now. Not much more to be said.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #868 on: February 14, 2013, 09:30:32 pm »

I am around for a bit, if that matters.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #869 on: February 14, 2013, 09:32:18 pm »

Kooshie, I think you can go ahead and hammer someone now. Not much more to be said.

I agree.  And raerae, I will vote for liopoil tomorrow if I'm still alive (most likely would be dead by lynch obviously).
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #870 on: February 14, 2013, 09:32:47 pm »

Kooshie, I think you can go ahead and hammer someone now. Not much more to be said.

I agree.  And raerae, I will vote for liopoil tomorrow if I'm still alive (most likely would be dead by lynch obviously).

Saying if I die, I would most likely die by lynch.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #871 on: February 14, 2013, 09:37:09 pm »

If sudgy dies at night then I am confirmed scum :P
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #872 on: February 14, 2013, 09:49:11 pm »

Kooshie, do you have any thoughts you'd like to share/us to comment on? Has everybody said enough or do you want to hear more from anybody?
I think everybody has said enough, but feel free to keep on posting, if you feel the need.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #873 on: February 14, 2013, 09:51:24 pm »

Kooshie, our deadline is the 17th, take however much time you need to hammer.  I would like to hear what your thoughts are though.  Assume we lynch scum today and Ash locks the thread right away.  Whatever you're thinking will be invaluable tomorrow.

Lio, sudgy, at this point I'd be willing to vote for either of you.  Don't rush the IC.  This game is in her hands and that's a crap move on both your parts.  There is no reason to rush this vote when we have plenty of time left on the clock.

Since that isn't an option, lio has been very in line with mcmc all game but most notably today (I'll post quotes when I have more time) so he's my preferred lynch tomorrow.  I am still inclined to believe sudgy has been overzealous newbie town all game. 

Sudgy, please give reasons for lynching lio (should you both be alive tomorrow), please.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 3)
« Reply #874 on: February 14, 2013, 09:56:25 pm »

raerae, I would be all for taking our time if there was anything left for us to say.
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