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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #650 on: February 03, 2013, 08:14:53 pm »

It was decided mail-mi was to perish.

Jorbles went to a cabinet and pulled out a dusty wrought iron sledge hammer that he seemed to have trouble lifting.

"This hammer has been with the Ashersky clan for a century and a half. It was wielded by Forbinald Ashersky at the Grantham Riot lynching when he bashed in the head of famed hitman Ronny 'Murderhands' Malone. I trust you will use this wisely."

Jorbles hands the heavy old sledgehammer to Robz888.

Robz888 walks over to mail-mi, pinned down by the other people in the house, and raises the hammer above his head. Quickly he brings it down as mail-mi screams. There is a sickening thump.

"Step aside please.  I will clean up the body." Jorbles shoos everyone away and begins preparing the body for burial. "Oh I believe this fell out of mail-mi's pocket. You'll probably want it for your discussions."

It is a card declaring mail-mi to be a member of the local neighbourhood watch, devoted to keeping the mafia out of his community.

mail-mi, the Vanilla Townie, has been killed.

"Forbinald Ashersky would be turning in his grave."
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #651 on: February 03, 2013, 08:15:38 pm »

Night 1 has begun.  Actions are due to myself and Jorbles within 48 hours.

Day 2 will begin by 8:15 p.m. on Tuesday, February 5.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #652 on: February 04, 2013, 05:23:57 pm »

FYI, if all actions are in early, I may start open D2 early as well.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #653 on: February 05, 2013, 06:50:51 pm »

Psst…wake up!

The group slowly came to after a hard night’s rest.  They looked around, dejected.  The spot where they had hammered an innocent was spotless.  That Jorbes was really a good butler.

Can you hear me?  It’s ashersky!

The group looked around, trying to see where the voice was coming from.  One of them spotted the air vent high up on the inner wall.

I’ve been taken.  You must find out who the mafia are in this group so you can save me.  Please!

The group was determined.  They would get this sorted.  As they stood up, someone noticed that Jimmmmm was still sleeping in his chair.  They went over and touched his shoulder to wake him up.

He slumped forward in his chair, and they saw the bullet hole.

Jimmmmm was killed during the night.  He was the Town Cop.

Day 2 has begun!
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #654 on: February 05, 2013, 07:02:46 pm »

Yikes.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #655 on: February 05, 2013, 07:18:45 pm »

(I'm going to say something in a bit, but before I do that, I want to say that the thread still says it's day 1)
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #656 on: February 05, 2013, 07:30:57 pm »

Alright, I decided to re-read Jimmmmm to try to see if there was any reason someone would want to kill him.

The only people he accused were me and Kooshie.  I obviously think I'm town and that would leave kooshie as the only person with a reason to kill him.  Although I don't know if Kooshie is scum, so it probably was someone's random kill (or someone wanted to kill a vet so newbies could play longer).

I'm still slightly suspicious of both liopoil and kooshie, but am not going to vote yet.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #657 on: February 05, 2013, 07:34:04 pm »

Alright, I decided to re-read Jimmmmm to try to see if there was any reason someone would want to kill him.

The only people he accused were me and Kooshie.  I obviously think I'm town and that would leave kooshie as the only person with a reason to kill him.  Although I don't know if Kooshie is scum, so it probably was someone's random kill (or someone wanted to kill a vet so newbies could play longer).

I'm still slightly suspicious of both liopoil and kooshie, but am not going to vote yet.

This is a manufactured defense of you killing Jimm.

Vote: sudgy
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #658 on: February 05, 2013, 08:01:01 pm »

Vote Count 1.8:

Kooshie (3): (Jimmmmm), liopoil, sudgy, mcmcsalot
Robz888 (1): raerae
Mail-mi (1): kooshie
liopoil (1): EFHW

Not Voting (3): Robz888, mail-mi, Jimmmmm

Vote Count 1.11:

Kooshie (2): liopoil, sudgy
Robz888 (1): raerae
Mail-mi (1): kooshie
sudgy (3): Jimmmmm, mcmcsalot, mail-mi, (EFHW)

Not Voting (2): Robz888, EFHW

Final Vote Count:

Robz888 (1): raerae
liopoil (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (5): mcmcsalot, EFHW, sudgy, Kooshie, Robz888

Not Voting (2): Jimmmmm, liopoil

These were the three wagons of the day, people in parentheses were on wagon until just before the vote count, both times the person unvoted because they did not want them at L-1.

From looking at this I think the more important wagon is actually the one on sudgy, there are 2 confirmed town, sudgy was at L-1 for a little while, I know I'm town which means regardless of efhw's alignment sudgy has to be scum. There is no reason one and possibly two scum had the chance to hammer sudgy but decided not to. Efhw jumping off wagon once it was at L-1 is less scummy than I first thought because it was her that brought sudgy to L-1, had she been on the wagon for a while it would have been very scummy but it instead looks like good town play.

It also suprised me that raerae was on robz for every wagon, this combined with the fact that I already felt her reads were weaker than I excpected looks alot like scum trying not to make waves.

These are the two things that stand out to me the most and I am going to vote: sudgy

I invite everyone to further analyze the wagons and express opinions.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #659 on: February 05, 2013, 08:13:04 pm »

A few very recent things have made me change my mind...

Vote Count 1.8:

Kooshie (3): (Jimmmmm), liopoil, sudgy, mcmcsalot
Robz888 (1): raerae
Mail-mi (1): kooshie
liopoil (1): EFHW

Not Voting (3): Robz888, mail-mi, Jimmmmm

Vote Count 1.11:

Kooshie (2): liopoil, sudgy
Robz888 (1): raerae
Mail-mi (1): kooshie
sudgy (3): Jimmmmm, mcmcsalot, mail-mi, (EFHW)

Not Voting (2): Robz888, EFHW

Final Vote Count:

Robz888 (1): raerae
liopoil (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (5): mcmcsalot, EFHW, sudgy, Kooshie, Robz888

Not Voting (2): Jimmmmm, liopoil


I noticed Robz888 wasn't voting for either of the first two.  This could be attributed to his lurkiness, maybe he didn't notice until too late.  And then when he saw mail-mi at L-1, he lynched him.  (This is all hypothetical, of course.)

Also, just saying "Yikes" seems scummy to me.  Maybe trying to make it seem like he's empathetic with the town.

Last, he instantly accused me when I just was trying to see who might want to kill Jimmmmm.  He saw something that seemed a bit scummy, and jumped for it.

From this, I'm going to Vote: Robz888
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #660 on: February 05, 2013, 08:25:26 pm »

Also, mcmc, if you're mafia, you could have seen that and thought "Oh, this is a perfect argument!  It'll get people to vote for sudgy!"  I'm starting to get suspicious of you as well.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #661 on: February 05, 2013, 08:31:20 pm »

Vote Count 2.1:

sudgy (2): Robz888, mcmcslot
Robz888 (1): sudgy

Not Voting (4): EFHW, Kooshie, liopoil, raerae

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 2 will end at 7:00 p.m. on Sunday, February 17.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #662 on: February 05, 2013, 08:35:49 pm »

sudgy, you're coming across as desperately diverting attention to everyone but yourself. kooshie in your first post, then robz, now mcmc. You also mentioned me in your first post for some reason. (first real post, not the one where you said that you were about to post something)
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #663 on: February 05, 2013, 08:42:14 pm »

Alright, I decided to re-read Jimmmmm to try to see if there was any reason someone would want to kill him.

The only people he accused were me and Kooshie.  I obviously think I'm town and that would leave kooshie as the only person with a reason to kill him.  Although I don't know if Kooshie is scum, so it probably was someone's random kill (or someone wanted to kill a vet so newbies could play longer).

I'm still slightly suspicious of both liopoil and kooshie, but am not going to vote yet.
This is framing raerae.  She didn't want to lynch mail-mi because she wanted him to be able to play for longer because he was a newbie.  But then sudgy said that either I or liopoil were the scummiest.  Framing raerae, staying on his former suspicions of liopoil and I, but still not voting.  I'm not ready to vote either, especially not after we just lynched mail-mi and Jimm got nightkilled.  But still, I think this is scummy.
I suppose I would have a reason to kill Jimm, but many people voted for me, and were still suspicious of me after I went down from L-1, so I would have reason to kill many people.  Jimm was actually the one who took me down from L-1, so why would I want to kill him, then?  Also, any scum would have a reason to kill Jimm, as he was making good reads, and pretty much everyone had a town read on him.  I agree, the mafia might have killed him because he was a vet, but because they wanted to get a experienced person out of the game, not just so newbies could play.  Of course, if it was so newbies could play, I think it would be, again, so not as experienced people could try to figure out who's scum, and, being not as experienced, fail.  So, isn't this framing me, too?  Now sudgy is my highest scum read, but as I said above, I'm not ready to vote yet.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #664 on: February 05, 2013, 09:12:21 pm »

any scum would have a reason to kill Jimm, as he was making good reads
How do you know that his reads were good?

here's a reason scum might kill jimmmmm: maybe they thought he was a PR or something?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #665 on: February 05, 2013, 09:18:02 pm »

here's a reason scum might kill jimmmmm: maybe they thought he was a PR or something?

I'm wondering if there was something in his posts a vet mafia might have recognized as indicating a power role. 
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #666 on: February 05, 2013, 09:24:42 pm »

I think he was just killed for being the most pro town. He offered reads, discussed theory, and kept the convo going.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #667 on: February 05, 2013, 09:45:30 pm »


Vote Count 1.11:

Kooshie (2): liopoil, sudgy
Robz888 (1): raerae
Mail-mi (1): kooshie
sudgy (3): Jimmmmm, mcmcsalot, mail-mi, (EFHW)

Not Voting (2): Robz888, EFHW

From looking at this I think the more important wagon is actually the one on sudgy, there are 2 confirmed town, sudgy was at L-1 for a little while, I know I'm town which means regardless of efhw's alignment sudgy has to be scum. There is no reason one and possibly two scum had the chance to hammer sudgy but decided not to. Efhw jumping off wagon once it was at L-1 is less scummy than I first thought because it was her that brought sudgy to L-1, had she been on the wagon for a while it would have been very scummy but it instead looks like good town play.


can you explain more how you get to the conclusion that sudgy has to be scum (italicized)?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #668 on: February 05, 2013, 09:50:09 pm »

A reason not to hammer sudgy immediately would have been that quick-hammering is suspicious.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #669 on: February 05, 2013, 10:03:24 pm »

From looking at this I think the more important wagon is actually the one on sudgy, there are 2 confirmed town, sudgy was at L-1 for a little while, I know I'm town which means regardless of efhw's alignment sudgy has to be scum. There is no reason one and possibly two scum had the chance to hammer sudgy but decided not to. Efhw jumping off wagon once it was at L-1 is less scummy than I first thought because it was her that brought sudgy to L-1, had she been on the wagon for a while it would have been very scummy but it instead looks like good town play.

It also suprised me that raerae was on robz for every wagon, this combined with the fact that I already felt her reads were weaker than I excpected looks alot like scum trying not to make waves.

These are the two things that stand out to me the most and I am going to vote: sudgy

I invite everyone to further analyze the wagons and express opinions.

Yeah, I think EFHW questioned this already but how are you positive sudgy is scum?  I don't see the logic here.

Me being on robz, if you were following day one at all, should not have come as a surprise.  I was literally on him from RVS.  Vocally calling him out and voting for him for the remainder of the day after my initial unvote because people got too excited about RVS voting.  You, on the other hand, protected him (from me) all day saying you had a townread on him...which you never explained...care to now?  So, explain this to me, if I was most vocal about voting robz for lurking and you were most vocal about not lynching robz for lurking, how did you not realize I was on him all day?  Seems a bit like somebody is trying to cast a bit of a shadow on me...again...

What makes my reads weak?  I know I didn't give a ton of them but the ones I did give I defended vehemently.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #670 on: February 05, 2013, 10:09:57 pm »

any scum would have a reason to kill Jimm, as he was making good reads
How do you know that his reads were good?

here's a reason scum might kill jimmmmm: maybe they thought he was a PR or something?

That's just what I was thinking.  He wasn't being overly vocal, seemed to almost be cautious about picking sides and giving reads, I felt something was off but didn't have anything solid to go on so just kept that tucked away in my notes to see how it developed.  That makes me think somebody who has played with him before is scum and saw this as a sign of him having a PR. 
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #671 on: February 05, 2013, 10:47:26 pm »

sudgy, you're coming across as desperately diverting attention to everyone but yourself. kooshie in your first post, then robz, now mcmc. You also mentioned me in your first post for some reason. (first real post, not the one where you said that you were about to post something)

Feedback from one mafia to another?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #672 on: February 05, 2013, 10:53:25 pm »

Can mafia talk to each other during the day or just at night?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 2)
« Reply #673 on: February 05, 2013, 10:54:00 pm »

Can mafia talk to each other during the day or just at night?

No one can talk privately during the day.  Mafia are able to talk to each other at night.
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« Reply #674 on: February 06, 2013, 12:39:05 am »

To the people who say I was jumping around with accusations: I mentioned liopoil and kooshie because that was just from the previous day.  Now I'm starting to think of robz/mcmc as a scumteam, for a few reasons:

1. They both had a bit of scumminess from their recent posts (I mentioned this already).
2. mcmc agreed with robz's vote just now.
3. mcmc said he had a town read on robz for reasons he couldn't explain.  But what if he doesn't have a reason? (as raerae mentioned)
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