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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #575 on: January 30, 2013, 11:01:46 pm »

While I understand what your saying raerae, I cannot support lynching a less scummy candidate who I(and everyone) read better just to be friendly. Especially because I have other scum reads that still dot include robz.

vote: mail-mi to get this moving.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #576 on: January 30, 2013, 11:02:50 pm »

If mail-mi gets more votes, I'd be willing to switch mine to make it go, but I agree with raerae that it does seem like it would make a better game overall to keep an active participant and lynch the non-contributor.

They are both non-contributors, that is not the argument se is making.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #577 on: January 30, 2013, 11:03:57 pm »

correction: I mean I agree with Liopoil about the active contributor part (hmm, maybe I should rethink that) and agree with raerae about getting to know mail-mi better.  You can see why I'm going a little nuts.  Because I also agree with mcmc that the mail-mi might be more informative, since we can use his flip to read into people's earlier positions.  Maybe I shouldn't be posting at all!  :-\
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #578 on: January 30, 2013, 11:08:09 pm »

Ok, we'll agree to disagree on that.  Can you explain your townread on robz?   
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #579 on: January 30, 2013, 11:10:30 pm »

And can anybody explain how mail-mi would be more informative?  He hasn't really interacted with anybody in particular, has he?  Did I miss it?  In my eyes, he seems to have swooped in and just sheeped the nearest votes.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #580 on: January 30, 2013, 11:16:10 pm »

More people have given there own opinions on mail-mi which means we could search for the person who seemed to know what he was goin to flip(this works regardless of alignment) and something I find useful.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #581 on: January 30, 2013, 11:17:54 pm »

The town read on robz is that the few things he has done are the exact same things I have seen him do as town, again I won't say exactly what so he cannot copy but it makes me lean town on him.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #582 on: January 30, 2013, 11:19:22 pm »

I would be fine with lynching mail-mi, but that would be kind of mean to him.  Mail-mi, I'll be "voting" for you, but not officially just in case you do end up getting lynched.
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   Quote from: sudgy on June 31, 2011, 11:47:46 pm

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #583 on: January 30, 2013, 11:19:40 pm »

More people have given there own opinions on mail-mi which means we could search for the person who seemed to know what he was goin to flip(this works regardless of alignment) and something I find useful.

And townpoints back on mcmc...
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #584 on: January 30, 2013, 11:21:49 pm »

I would be fine with lynching mail-mi, but that would be kind of mean to him.  Mail-mi, I'll be "voting" for you, but not officially just in case you do end up getting lynched.

Are you actually saying you are voting for him aka support the lunch but don't want to vote incase he might get lynched aka you don't support it?????
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #585 on: January 30, 2013, 11:30:12 pm »

And can anybody explain how mail-mi would be more informative?  He hasn't really interacted with anybody in particular, has he?  Did I miss it?  In my eyes, he seems to have swooped in and just sheeped the nearest votes.

My thought was that people have come out with stronger opinions about mail-mi, and we at least have some of his opinions too.  We know nothing from Robz, so whichever way he flips doesn't let us reread him to any benefit.  Kooshie, Sudgy, and mcmc have all come out against mail-mi at different times - as have you.  Liopoil advocated against lynching him, and mail-mi voted to lynch Liopoil.

Also, mail-mi isn't really paying attention - he still thinks Liopoil is a girl, and his reasoning is arbitrary.  I think I'm talking myself into changing my mind: VOTE: Mail-mi.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #586 on: January 30, 2013, 11:32:41 pm »

@all, does anybody not support a mail-mi lynch?  Other than me for reasons which have nothing to do with actions within the game?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #587 on: January 30, 2013, 11:39:23 pm »

I would be fine with lynching mail-mi, but that would be kind of mean to him.  Mail-mi, I'll be "voting" for you, but not officially just in case you do end up getting lynched.

Are you actually saying you are voting for him aka support the lunch but don't want to vote incase he might get lynched aka you don't support it?????

I support it, but I want to see what he says.  If he still doesn't say anything, or gives a bad defence, I'll vote for him.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #588 on: January 31, 2013, 12:08:11 am »

Vote Count 1.13:

Kooshie (1): sudgy
Robz888 (1): raerae
liopoil (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (2): mcmcsalot, EFHW

Not Voting (4): Robz888, Jimmmmm, liopoil, Kooshie

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #589 on: January 31, 2013, 01:04:54 am »

I would be fine with lynching mail-mi, but that would be kind of mean to him.  Mail-mi, I'll be "voting" for you, but not officially just in case you do end up getting lynched.

Yeah, this doesn't make sense at all.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #590 on: January 31, 2013, 03:24:08 pm »

I would be fine with lynching mail-mi, but that would be kind of mean to him.  Mail-mi, I'll be "voting" for you, but not officially just in case you do end up getting lynched.

Yeah, this doesn't make sense at all.

I would be fine with lynching mail-mi, but that would be kind of mean to him.  Mail-mi, I'll be "voting" for you, but not officially just in case you do end up getting lynched.

Are you actually saying you are voting for him aka support the lunch but don't want to vote incase he might get lynched aka you don't support it?????

I support it, but I want to see what he says.  If he still doesn't say anything, or gives a bad defence, I'll vote for him.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #591 on: January 31, 2013, 03:26:20 pm »

But, he still hasn't said anything, so I'll Vote: mail-mi for now.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #592 on: January 31, 2013, 04:58:43 pm »

Vote Count 1.14:

Robz888 (1): raerae
liopoil (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (3): mcmcsalot, EFHW, sudgy {L-2}

Not Voting (4): Robz888, Jimmmmm, liopoil, Kooshie

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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #593 on: January 31, 2013, 05:03:05 pm »

@raerae: I do not really support a mail-mi lynch. At this point I would really prefer a robz888 lynch to a mail-mi lynch, for reasons I've mentioned. I still would like to lynch kooshie more than either one, but it seems at this point the rest of the town is pretty much set on LALL
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #594 on: January 31, 2013, 05:07:24 pm »

My order of who to lynch, from my choice lynch to worst lynch:

kooshie
robz888
mail-mi
EFHW
sudgy
Jimmmmm
Mcmcsalot
raerae
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #595 on: January 31, 2013, 05:11:13 pm »

I'm returning my Vote: Mail-mi for all the reasons everyone has mentioned.  Oh, sure, he's contributing now, but not really anything useful.  I'm not against a Robz888 lynch, but I would definitely rather a mail-mi lynch.  That puts mail-mi at L-1, right?
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« Reply #596 on: January 31, 2013, 05:13:15 pm »

I'm returning my Vote: Mail-mi for all the reasons everyone has mentioned.  Oh, sure, he's contributing now, but not really anything useful.  I'm not against a Robz888 lynch, but I would definitely rather a mail-mi lynch.  That puts mail-mi at L-1, right?

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« Reply #597 on: January 31, 2013, 05:14:05 pm »

liopoil's jumping around was just that she at one point completely dropped heris case against Kooshie and started going for LALL, which I guess is just jumping once.
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I never dropped my case on kooshie. It was just that it seems like we aren't lynching kooshie today, so I went for my second choice, a LALL lynch. There was nothing else for me to say about kooshie besides repeating things I'd already said, so I dropped it.
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #598 on: January 31, 2013, 05:18:36 pm »

tradering feoda might me a good idea sometimes, at least it's legal.

can you elaborate which of those four apply to the three people you mentioned?
Hasty defense is my biggest scum read, I have all three down for this reason
Lurking, none of them
Tunneling: liopoil was tunneling Kooshie at one point
Jumping: liopoil after tunneling jumped around a bit for accusations, and Kooshie a little bit too.

Looking back at this, I find myself thinking that liopoil (you) is (are) the most scummy, and we're getting near to the end, so I Vote: liopoil

I agree that Liopoil is scummy, and he did tunnel Kooshie.  But he didn't jump around with accusations that I can see - he was pretty consistently Kooshie.  And can you point out hasty defense on his part? 

If this is as scummy an accusation as it seems AND Liopoil is scummy, then maybe you are bussing?

liopoil's jumping around was just that she at one point completely dropped her case against Kooshie and started going for LALL, which I guess is just jumping once. Hasty defenses? Really, from what I found, a lot of the times someone accused her, she would reply with a question then give at least a good-sized list of why she wasn't. I find long defenses more scummy than those of short, to-the-point defenses.
Please explain...  Liopoil is a guy, by the way.  Who replies with a question and a good-sized list?  Why are long defenses scummy if they contain useful information?
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Re: Mafia XXI: Another Dinner Party! (Newbie Priority Game - Day 1)
« Reply #599 on: January 31, 2013, 05:38:01 pm »

Vote Count 1.15:

Robz888 (1): raerae
liopoil (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (4): mcmcsalot, EFHW, sudgy, Kooshie {L-1}

Not Voting (3): Robz888, Jimmmmm, liopoil

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